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#37232 From: "Andy Carvin" <acarvin@...>
Date: Sat Apr 1, 2006 7:57 pm
Subject: Re: big announcement andycarvin
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I had a sneaky feeling you were screwing with us, particularly when I
searched for mefeedia on Google News and Technorati and couldn't find
any coverage of it. (btw, when I searched for it on Technorati, all
the google ads on the page had to do with killing fire ants:

     * Tired of Fire Ants? Control fire ants in your lawn for one full
year with one treatment.  www.nofireants.com
     * Terminix - Fire Ant Terminix offers guaranteed pest control
services for your home and business. Visit Terminix.com to learn about
controlling various pests. Safeguard your home - schedule a free
evaluation.  www.terminix.com
     * Fire Ant Killer Bait Wipe out ants safely and completely in 3
days. It is safe to human, animals and poultry. This pest control
product comes with risk-free, 100% money-back guarantee.
www.firstpestcontrol.com

Not exactly fireANT, are they? Got a nice laugh out of that.

andy carvin
www.andycarvin.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Van Dijck"
<petervandijck@...> wrote:
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> OK I told myself the first person who mentiones the date - that's when
> I fess up.
>
> April's fool. Mefeedia hasn't been acquired by anyone.
>
> I laughed a lot though. Quite a few people sent me private
> congratulatory emails, and were really surprised when I told them the
> truth.
>
> Back to the usual programming!
> Peter
> --
> http://mefeedia.com
>
> On 4/1/06, Andr� Sala <andrensala@...> wrote:
> >  Congrats!  Hope this isn't related to today being April Fools
though... :)
> >
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> > On 4/1/06, Peter Van Dijck <petervandijck@... > wrote:
> > >
> > I have wanted to tell people this for a long time, but I wasn't
> > allowed to. So sorry to a bunch of you who should have known this,
> > sorry for having to keep you in the dark.
> >
> > I received an offer I couldn't refuse from Yahoo to buy Mefeedia.
> >
> > I'm sure you all will have lots of questions (sellout?), and I'll talk
> > more about this in time, but I just wanted to get this out there.  I
> > am very excited, particularly because my new boss is Lucas Gonze (from
> > Webjay fame). So there we go! Lots of exciting future plans.
> >
> > Just let me assure everyone: in my discussions, I emphasized the
> > importance of a good directory that is focused on *videobloggers*, and
> > Lucas is totally with that.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Peter
> > --
> > http://mefeedia.com
> >
> > ps: yes, this is also the reason behind the recent speed improvements.
> > We still haven't moved the entire infrastructure (the thumbs
> > particularly) to Yahoo infrastructure, but we should be there by
> > Wednesday.
> >
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#37233 From: "Joshua Kinberg" <jkinberg@...>
Date: Sat Apr 1, 2006 8:03 pm
Subject: Re: Re: big announcement joshkinberg
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Yep, those ads show up on my Flickr page too.

Anybody wanna donate some money to us so we can outbid the
exterminators for the keywords?

:-)

-Josh

http://FireAnt.tv


On 4/1/06, Andy Carvin <acarvin@...> wrote:
> I had a sneaky feeling you were screwing with us, particularly when I
> searched for mefeedia on Google News and Technorati and couldn't find
> any coverage of it. (btw, when I searched for it on Technorati, all
> the google ads on the page had to do with killing fire ants:
>
>     * Tired of Fire Ants? Control fire ants in your lawn for one full
> year with one treatment.  www.nofireants.com
>     * Terminix - Fire Ant Terminix offers guaranteed pest control
> services for your home and business. Visit Terminix.com to learn about
> controlling various pests. Safeguard your home - schedule a free
> evaluation.  www.terminix.com
>     * Fire Ant Killer Bait Wipe out ants safely and completely in 3
> days. It is safe to human, animals and poultry. This pest control
> product comes with risk-free, 100% money-back guarantee.
> www.firstpestcontrol.com
>
> Not exactly fireANT, are they? Got a nice laugh out of that.
>
> andy carvin
> www.andycarvin.com
>
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Van Dijck"
> <petervandijck@...> wrote:
> >
> > OK I told myself the first person who mentiones the date - that's when
> > I fess up.
> >
> > April's fool. Mefeedia hasn't been acquired by anyone.
> >
> > I laughed a lot though. Quite a few people sent me private
> > congratulatory emails, and were really surprised when I told them the
> > truth.
> >
> > Back to the usual programming!
> > Peter
> > --
> > http://mefeedia.com
> >
> > On 4/1/06, Andr� Sala <andrensala@...> wrote:
> > >  Congrats!  Hope this isn't related to today being April Fools
> though... :)
> > >
> > >
> > > On 4/1/06, Peter Van Dijck <petervandijck@... > wrote:
> > > >
> > > I have wanted to tell people this for a long time, but I wasn't
> > > allowed to. So sorry to a bunch of you who should have known this,
> > > sorry for having to keep you in the dark.
> > >
> > > I received an offer I couldn't refuse from Yahoo to buy Mefeedia.
> > >
> > > I'm sure you all will have lots of questions (sellout?), and I'll talk
> > > more about this in time, but I just wanted to get this out there.  I
> > > am very excited, particularly because my new boss is Lucas Gonze (from
> > > Webjay fame). So there we go! Lots of exciting future plans.
> > >
> > > Just let me assure everyone: in my discussions, I emphasized the
> > > importance of a good directory that is focused on *videobloggers*, and
> > > Lucas is totally with that.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Peter
> > > --
> > > http://mefeedia.com
> > >
> > > ps: yes, this is also the reason behind the recent speed improvements.
> > > We still haven't moved the entire infrastructure (the thumbs
> > > particularly) to Yahoo infrastructure, but we should be there by
> > > Wednesday.
> > >
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> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
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> > >  Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web.
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#37234 From: "Andy Carvin" <acarvin@...>
Date: Sat Apr 1, 2006 8:09 pm
Subject: Re: El rey and the Pano andycarvin
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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Loiez D." <l.deniel@...> wrote:
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> It's not video, it's not photo
> but it's a very impressive pano
>
> http://www.liberation.fr/pano/juancarlos/vr/pano.htm
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> Amiti�s
> Loiez
>

Wasn't El Rey the place where George Clooney and Quentin Tarantino
were supposed to go after they met their guy at the Titty Twister?

Oh wait. Never mind. Wrong video.

ac

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#37235 From: Josh Wolf <inthecity@...>
Date: Sat Apr 1, 2006 8:31 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Week of Vlogging Dangerously lifeinlowerh...
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Hey -- Vlogging Dangerously -- I know all about that... The FBI
actually showed up at my house for one of my vlogs which led to me
being subpoenaed to appear before a grand jury which we've been
fighting to quash. How's that for vlogging dangerously?

For more info check out my vlog

http://joshwolf.net

or read the docs at http://joshwolf.net/grandjury/

On Apr 1, 2006, at 10:45 AM, missbhavens1969 wrote:

> Now, Susan...that's too easy!
>
> Did you know your last name is an adverb?
>
> Bekah
> http://missbhavens.blogspot.com
>
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" <kitykity@...> wrote:
>
>>
>> Oh MAN... I just thought up the greatest song parody... you guys know
>> me...
>>
>> "I wanna vlog... dangerously..."
>> Who can name the movie?
>>
>> :D
>> Susan
>> http://vlog.kitykity.com
>>
>>
>>
>> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Stephanie Bryant"
>> <mortaine@> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> [I like the idea of vlog week, so here's me taking some
>>> initiative....]
>>>
>>> The Week of Vlogging Dangerously:
>>>
>>> Who: YOU!
>>> What: 1 week (7 days) of posting a videoblog post every day.
>>> When: April 3-9 (to get a full weekend in at the end)
>>> Why: because it's fun!
>>> How: Post to the videoblogging group under this subject line that
>>> you're going to participate, with a link to your vlog. I'll try
>>> to set
>>> up an RSS webpage with all the "week of" vlogs.
>>>
>>> Anything else?
>>> Since it's the week of vlogging dangerously, try to do something
>>> risky
>>> or different from your routine and vlog it. Maybe it's talking to a
>>> stranger, or sneaking a camcorder into a store with "NO VIDEO OF
>>> THIS
>>> PREMISES ALLOWED." Maybe it's subverting the dominant paradigm, or
>>> perhaps it's risking your very soul by buying into the paradigm
>>> for a
>>> day.
>>>
>>> You decide the file format, server, etc. This is just a challenge to
>>> get your out there and videoblogging!
>>>
>>> What if I fall behind?
>>> Post twice the next day.
>>>
>>> Will you help me?
>>> I'll post a Vlogging Dangerously suggestion each day, in case you
>>> need
>>> inspiration. I hope you don't, though! We're all creative people! Go
>>> out and have fun!
>>>
>>> --Stephanie
>>>
>>> --
>>> Stephanie Bryant
>>> mortaine@
>>> Blogs, vlogs, and audioblogs at:
>>> http://www.mortaine.com/blogs
>>>
>>>
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#37236 From: "Anne Walk" <desperatelymeasured@...>
Date: Sat Apr 1, 2006 8:39 pm
Subject: Re: pomoartchick
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hi Andrew,

i think you should talk about issues that are important to you and to rocketboom. while many who post here regularly might not be interested in those topics, we do have a huge list of members and i'm sure many of them would be interested. also, there will be many at vloggercon who are not members of this group at all that would be interested in those topics.

one of the nice things about a conference is that there are a variety of speakers and panels on a variety of topics. people can choose the ones that deal with issues they are interested in and not with those that don't.

for myself, i'm interested in all aspects of online video - from the personal to the proffessional. From political documentaries and talk shows to heightening individual communications between distant friends and public journalizing, and from amateur "home movies" to experimental art pieces.

I want to see a Vloggercon that encompasses possibility and encourages creative solutions.

-Anne

On 4/1/06, andrew michael baron <andrew@...> wrote:

We are trying to figure out what would be the best angle to discuss
at Vloggercon for our panel with Rocketboom and so I thought we
should probably just ask what you think would be the most interesting
or useful direction.

At first we were considering a discussion about how the world is
coming together over video online, though you know more than anyone
about that already.

We also thought it might be useful to discuss all kinds of business
aspects, including contracts, deals, ways to consider monetizing or
not, more ways to promote and distribute, business horror stories,
etc. but I'm not sure if the majority of videobloggers would find
that useful either.

There is also the topic of "show" and "format", but again, I don't
know if many people are interested in that.

Over the past year, in other cases of panels, its been pretty easy to
figure out because the audiences have been almost entirely out of the
loop so whatever the thread of the conference was, we would just talk
about our take on the matters.

So here we are with all like-minded people and wondering what we
could do to be the most helpful

Any ideas?

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#37237 From: "Vincent Njoroge Ndonye" <njorogevn@...>
Date: Sat Apr 1, 2006 9:19 pm
Subject: Re: Help needed in DC to edit an interview njorogevn
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Thanks Melanie!
I will add the site to your directory. I have visited and recommended your site to my new media friends in NYC! It is an excellent site!
We will return the RSS feed that we had earlier and will also provide a weekly mpeg4 downloadable format soon.

thanks again, BTW I found someone to help on craigslist! Crisis averted.
Vincent

On 4/1/06, Melanie Morgan < melmorg635@...> wrote:

Hi Vincent,

Since I'm in NYC I won't be able to help you with your interview, but I
would like to let you know about my site, The New Media Collective,
which serves as an information resource and social network for people
of color in the blogosphere. Please check it out
( http://newmediacollective.org) and add yourself to our Directory. I'll
definitely be talking about you guys and what you're doing.

I visited your site and noticed everything was Flash-based with no way
to subscribe via RSS. Do you plan to provide any other video formats
like QuickTime in the future so people can download your vids in
FireAnt or iTunes?

If you'd prefer not to answer here, you can email me off list at
melanie [at] newmediacollective [dot] org. I look forward to hearing
from you soon.

Peace & Love,
Melanie Morgan

The New Media Collective
It's a WE thing!
http://newmediacollective.org

On Apr 1, 2006, at 11:38 AM, njorogevn wrote:

> Is there anyone located in DC or nearby who can help me edit an
>  interview today? My partner who edits (and equipment) are in Kenya,
>  where we usually create the content, but I scored an interview in DC
>  with a Kenyan personality in town and need help editing and
> compressing.
>
>  Any help would be appreciated,
>  Vincent Njoroge Ndonye
>  www.kenyamoto.com (a daily show type vlog from Kenya)
>  PS: it is on 3 miniDV tapes; 15min interview, 30min speech.
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regards,
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#37238 From: Michael Meiser <groups-yahoo-com@...>
Date: Sat Apr 1, 2006 9:30 pm
Subject: Re: Re: big announcement mmeiser8
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LOL!  You mean videoblogging isn't a subset of pest control?

One day I want to see a commercial parody of the now famous "cat
hearders" commercial...

Fireant, Vlogdir, Mefeedia, Blip, Ourmedia, place your company name
here....

We make wrangle yer' videos so you don't have to.

Yeeehaa!

Head em up! Move em out!

LOL

Also, I'm still sort of hoping at the end of the day I can write a
blog post about all the companies Yahoo bought today. Nothing would
please me more than to have gigantic list. Hint, Hint. ;)

BTW, You do realize this is a common theme. Last year there were a
number of them. If my memory serves me correctly among others I think
it was Weblogs Inc. or Engadget who started a rumor that they got
bought out by yahoo for April fools.

I really enjoyed catching up on this thread.

We need more yahoos on the web. Not Yahoo!, but the type of crazy
yahoo's that make meta and media wranglin' startups. Aggregators, to
search engines, to hosting companies, to open source vlogging
platforms and plugins.

Last time I guestimated there were no less that 30 or 40 video
sharing services and yet there's still not enough of the right kind.
I've completely lost track, but the important ones are the vlogorific
ones, and there's only a small handful of those.

Cheers to vlog services and above all to the vloggers who make it all
that make it all worth while.

-Mike

On Apr 1, 2006, at 3:03 PM, Joshua Kinberg wrote:

> Yep, those ads show up on my Flickr page too.
>
> Anybody wanna donate some money to us so we can outbid the
> exterminators for the keywords?
>
> :-)
>
> -Josh
>
> http://FireAnt.tv
>
>
> On 4/1/06, Andy Carvin <acarvin@...> wrote:
>> I had a sneaky feeling you were screwing with us, particularly when I
>> searched for mefeedia on Google News and Technorati and couldn't find
>> any coverage of it. (btw, when I searched for it on Technorati, all
>> the google ads on the page had to do with killing fire ants:
>>
>>     * Tired of Fire Ants? Control fire ants in your lawn for one full
>> year with one treatment.  www.nofireants.com
>>     * Terminix - Fire Ant Terminix offers guaranteed pest control
>> services for your home and business. Visit Terminix.com to learn
>> about
>> controlling various pests. Safeguard your home - schedule a free
>> evaluation.  www.terminix.com
>>     * Fire Ant Killer Bait Wipe out ants safely and completely in 3
>> days. It is safe to human, animals and poultry. This pest control
>> product comes with risk-free, 100% money-back guarantee.
>> www.firstpestcontrol.com
>>
>> Not exactly fireANT, are they? Got a nice laugh out of that.
>>
>> andy carvin
>> www.andycarvin.com
>>
>> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Van Dijck"
>> <petervandijck@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> OK I told myself the first person who mentiones the date - that's
>>> when
>>> I fess up.
>>>
>>> April's fool. Mefeedia hasn't been acquired by anyone.
>>>
>>> I laughed a lot though. Quite a few people sent me private
>>> congratulatory emails, and were really surprised when I told them
>>> the
>>> truth.
>>>
>>> Back to the usual programming!
>>> Peter
>>> --
>>> http://mefeedia.com
>>>
>>> On 4/1/06, Andr� Sala <andrensala@...> wrote:
>>>>  Congrats!  Hope this isn't related to today being April Fools
>> though... :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 4/1/06, Peter Van Dijck <petervandijck@... > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>> I have wanted to tell people this for a long time, but I wasn't
>>>> allowed to. So sorry to a bunch of you who should have known this,
>>>> sorry for having to keep you in the dark.
>>>>
>>>> I received an offer I couldn't refuse from Yahoo to buy Mefeedia.
>>>>
>>>> I'm sure you all will have lots of questions (sellout?), and
>>>> I'll talk
>>>> more about this in time, but I just wanted to get this out
>>>> there.  I
>>>> am very excited, particularly because my new boss is Lucas Gonze
>>>> (from
>>>> Webjay fame). So there we go! Lots of exciting future plans.
>>>>
>>>> Just let me assure everyone: in my discussions, I emphasized the
>>>> importance of a good directory that is focused on
>>>> *videobloggers*, and
>>>> Lucas is totally with that.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Peter
>>>> --
>>>> http://mefeedia.com
>>>>
>>>> ps: yes, this is also the reason behind the recent speed
>>>> improvements.
>>>> We still haven't moved the entire infrastructure (the thumbs
>>>> particularly) to Yahoo infrastructure, but we should be there by
>>>> Wednesday.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
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>>>>  videoblogging-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>>>>
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>>>> Service.
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#37239 From: Melanie Morgan <melmorg635@...>
Date: Sat Apr 1, 2006 9:34 pm
Subject: Re: Help needed in DC to edit an interview melmorg635
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> I have visited and recommended your site to my new media friends in
> NYC! It is an excellent site!

Thanks for the kind words, Vincent. And the referrals. Always glad to
have new visitors.

> We will return the RSS feed that we had earlier and will also provide
> a weekly mpeg4 downloadable format soon.

Glad to know this. Now even more people will have access to your shows.

> I found someone to help on craigslist! Crisis averted.

Good news! What did we ever do before Craigslist? :-)

> I will add the site to your directory.

Can't wait to get you up there.

Later,
Melanie

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#37240 From: "Lisa" <Holistic_One@...>
Date: Sat Apr 1, 2006 9:37 pm
Subject: Re: Productive Member of the Group grasshoppera...
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As a Former Rocky Horror Picture Show Enthusiast... I would looove
to see Bill in some fishnets, bustier, and some patent stilettos....
Could be highly entertaining ;>}

As a reserved and responsible wife and a mother of four....I'm
shocked! Shocked I say!!

Daughtershow
www.daughtershow.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" <kitykity@...> wrote:
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> I second that emotion!  :D
>
> Susan
> http://vlog.kitykity.com
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> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "David Howell" <taoofdavid@>
> wrote:
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> > I'll second that. Bill in a little lacy teddy could do wonders
for the
> > vlogging community.
> >
> > David
> > http://www.davidhowellstudios.com
> >
> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Markus Sandy <markus@>
wrote:
> > >
> > > did i miss a video bill?
> > >
> > > i'd like to see that one ;)
> > >
> > >
> > > Bill Streeter wrote:
> > >
> > > >Yeah says you. I tried that and it didn't do shit for me. I
had to
> > > >resort to rock'n'roll.
> > > >
> > > >Bill Streeter
> > > >LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
> > > >www.lofistl.com
> > > >
> > > >--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Casey McKinnon"
<mskitka@>
> > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>Then again... you could always pose in your lingerie, that
seems to
> > > >>work too!  :P
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > >
> > > --
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> > >
> > > Markus Sandy
> > >
> > > http://apperceptions.org
> > > http://spinflow.org
> > >
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#37241 From: "Lisa" <Holistic_One@...>
Date: Sat Apr 1, 2006 9:45 pm
Subject: Re: Week of Vlogging Dangerously grasshoppera...
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OMG! :D
Johnny "Fargin" Dangerously....Classic Movie I swear! Right up there
with Casablanca and Apocalypse Now.

The whole song could be revamped... cool idea...hope you'll do more
with it....

Cheers!
Lisa
www.daughtershow.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" <kitykity@...> wrote:
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> Oh MAN... I just thought up the greatest song parody... you guys
know
> me...
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> "I wanna vlog... dangerously..."
> Who can name the movie?
>
> :D
> Susan
> http://vlog.kitykity.com
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> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Stephanie Bryant"
> <mortaine@> wrote:
> >
> > [I like the idea of vlog week, so here's me taking some
initiative....]
> >
> > The Week of Vlogging Dangerously:
> >
> > Who: YOU!
> > What: 1 week (7 days) of posting a videoblog post every day.
> > When: April 3-9 (to get a full weekend in at the end)
> > Why: because it's fun!
> > How: Post to the videoblogging group under this subject line that
> > you're going to participate, with a link to your vlog. I'll try
to set
> > up an RSS webpage with all the "week of" vlogs.
> >
> > Anything else?
> > Since it's the week of vlogging dangerously, try to do something
risky
> > or different from your routine and vlog it. Maybe it's talking
to a
> > stranger, or sneaking a camcorder into a store with "NO VIDEO OF
THIS
> > PREMISES ALLOWED." Maybe it's subverting the dominant paradigm,
or
> > perhaps it's risking your very soul by buying into the paradigm
for a
> > day.
> >
> > You decide the file format, server, etc. This is just a
challenge to
> > get your out there and videoblogging!
> >
> > What if I fall behind?
> > Post twice the next day.
> >
> > Will you help me?
> > I'll post a Vlogging Dangerously suggestion each day, in case
you need
> > inspiration. I hope you don't, though! We're all creative
people! Go
> > out and have fun!
> >
> > --Stephanie
> >
> > --
> > Stephanie Bryant
> > mortaine@
> > Blogs, vlogs, and audioblogs at:
> > http://www.mortaine.com/blogs
> >
>

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#37242 From: Michael Meiser <groups-yahoo-com@...>
Date: Sat Apr 1, 2006 10:49 pm
Subject: Re: Of By and For mmeiser8
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On Mar 31, 2006, at 2:40 PM, Markus Sandy wrote:

yes, but his gallery looks a hell of a lot nicer than anything from flickr i guess you're a function over form guy Mike ;)

You got me pegged Markus. I've lost it.

I've become all function over form, I'm a designer, I was trained as a proper designer, and yet I've been advising peter on what I call "undesigning" on mefeedia and perhaps worst of all I'm super stoked about the results. :)

...and that would explain why I'm using Apple iPhoto 6.0 to aggregat photocasts from all my Flickr ah 23hq friends when it's a beastly piece of crappy software. (Bloatware).

It also explains why I'm boycotting iPhoto 6.02 which performs much better. However it doesn't have my all important gods gift to social media the beautiful, ever-living and ever-loved permalink!��

I credit FireAnt with spoiling me on this all important feature early on and I cry myself to sleep at night that I must use iTunes to aggregate videos onto my iPod. Try as I may it is no substitute.�

I've even given this deamon a name. I call it meta-basterdization or bastardized media. It's what happens when media become seperated from it's vlog, blog, photocast, or otherwise looses it's metadata.� What happens when media looses its permalink.

Being as I am an uber media geek and can no loger help it I can oft be heard saying,��"Meta-basterdization is contrary to the ways of the lightnet."

And all this has nothing to do with Lan so I hope he will forgive me for taking this opportunity to de-rail this great thread with my ranting ways.

One day hopefully someone will explain to me why Apple is boycotting podcasters and video bloggers and photobloggers websites and why we're putting up with?�

If you understand it please let me know. I am baffled... befuddled, a twitching clueles rage...� and I can't seem to get dialed into the "Where in the hell are my permalinks apple!" meme. I cannot find the handle on it, for if I could I would compile a hella debate on the importance of permalinks, but alas all the dissenting voices remain scattered like sticks in the wind.

Perhaps I'm not trying hard enough. Maybe I should call out "Vloggers! Photocasters! Podcasters! Unite!"�

...and start a campaign for podcasters to boycott Apple.�

I'm not so certain it's a completely absurd idea anymore. iTune has supported podcasting for over a year and still no permalinks.��It is no "gift horse" that I know of that behaves so arrogantly in the face of a "consumer revolution" culture. They have expend their good will needlessly, the cost is to high us, and I want my damn permalinks back!

Seriously... does anyone miss permalinks?� I feel like I'm the only one who's having a hissy fit. :)

in case you prefer other formats, here's some video: http://apperceive.blogs.com/apperceive/2006/03/echo_park_film_.html or some audio: http://apperceive.blogs.com/apperceive/2006/03/echo_park_film__1.html I'm biased of course, but i think LAN took some great photos and that's more important than the choice of player

I'm sorry Lan, Markus and whomever else I offended. I whole heartedly apologize. I didn't mean anything personal by it, I've obviously cracked and lost my handle on the whole idea of experimentation that's made this all possible.� I guess somewhere between the grassroots community and companies like apple caching in on podcasting and vlogging and photocasting something always gets lost in translation. There is some formulation of a standard that has been missed. Perhaps if I issued a license for my RSS feed and got others to do so also stating that my RSS can only be used if proper attribution is given in the form of a permalink we could then file a class action suit against apple to finally get them to acknowlege they are being not figurative, but actual bastards. I appologize for the use of that term, but it is infact the proper term. My media is without parents. :(

In my defense I did immediately yesterday "flickr friend" Lan, favorite a bunch of his photos, make several comments and subscribe to his photocast feed in iPhoto (6.0.0!) so I'd never miss another one of his photos again, nor the ability to fav and comment on them.

i guess the best answer is "photocast" and then you can pick your viewer of choice then you can watch them in fireant or something

Exactly!

I've been bugging Josh K. about true photocast support in Fireant. It would make a GREAT photocast tool, but it doesn't support JPEG enclosures, nor Media RSS (mRSS) yet. Please note, I'm speaking strictly of the mac version. Not sure about the Win version which I haven't had the pleasure of using in a while.

I'd like to point out that Nathan over at�openvision.tv�is developing I/ON to support photocasts, though it's still in beta.

http://flickr.com/photos/natty/98024143/

I've also created a photocasting group on Flickr, though I have yet to announce it.

http://flickr.com/groups/photocasting/

It's part of my ongoing obsession in developing discussion around all areas of podcasting... audio, photo, and video. Please feel free to join up. I can't promise you much but I can promise you big beautiful highres photos in your photocasting aggregator, if only my own. :)

but then flickr would have to get it's RSS feeds together (they suck - they ignore creative commons based searches)

Hmm... I think you may be right. Their media RSS support is a very good start in my opinion. I'm VERY pleased with their initial implementation, but there are still a few�eccentricities that must be worked out.

In summary, I'm sorry for using Lan beautiful photos and this thread as a touch point to discuss my "issues" of form and functionality and hope that my ubergeeking can be forgiven by all of our mutual love for the almighty permalink that truely does bind us all.

Peace, and amen.

-Mike

Evangelist�of the church of the permalink, by order of the way of the lightnet. :)

mmeiser.com/blog

spreadthemedia.org

mefeedia.com

Lover of Ant and Blip and Webjay and ALL the true free ways of the lighnet media-verse.

LOL

Damn, I miss the loss of vlog group time. :)

Michael Meiser wrote: Happy to see the get togethers. No offence Lan, but I found your slide show viewer a little silly. The navigation was hard to use because of the scaling and it kept moving as the picture format changed, also there were no captions and most importantly there was nowhere to comment so I could tell you how much I like your photos. If I may suggest Flickr or 23hq.com or some other such photosharing site in the future, I'm sure you'll get loads of comments and discussion. Also, that way I can mark you as a friend or subscribe to your RSS feed so I'll be sure to recieve future photos from you. Peace, and thanks for posting the photos. -Mike On Mar 31, 2006, at 4:11 AM, Markus Sandy wrote: Here here. Roger put on a fantastic show and the Echo Park Film Center rocks. We can learn a lot from places like that. Great to meet you Lan! Lan Bui wrote: Todays event was great. We watched some great vlogs and had some good chats. Sorry I had to leave so quickly, a late night prior commitment was made. Here are some photos from the event. http://www.lanbui.com/photos/gallery/ofbyandfor/index.htm -Lan -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Of By and For // Los Angeles // March 30 Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 13:27:50 -0800 From: Of By And For <ofbyandfor@...> To: headucate@... Greetings all. Just wanted to send out the release about the upcoming showcase this week. Please forward this to anyone you think would be interested especially those in the Los Angeles area. Also if you would like to help promote the event on your own sites there are a couple a web banners @ ofbyandfor.blogspot.com Again thanks for participating and hopefully this will be the first of many to come. Blessings Roger ----------------------------------------------------------- March 23, 2006 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE OF BY and FOR: videoblog selections from around the globe Join us for an evening filled with videos from around the world made by people who have taken blogging to the next level. On Thursday, March 30th at 8PM, HEADUCATE media presents "Of By and For: videoblog selections from around the globe." Gathered from various blogs, this showcase will feature videos from different countries with topics ranging from experimental to documentary to comedy. Stick around afterwards for a presentation by Markus Sandy from Node101. There will also be a Q&A session so you can find out more on how to start videoblogging on your own as well as giveaways by Graphonic clothing. The event takes place at the Echo Park Film Center located at 1200 N. Alvarado St. and Sunset Blvd. Seating is limited so arrive early (RSVP if you can). Suggested donation is $5. For more information go to: OfByandFor.blogspot.com or call 818-554-2731 Yahoo! Groups Links -- Markus Sandy http://apperceptions.org http://spinflow.org Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links *> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ *> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: videoblogging-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com *> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- Markus Sandy http://apperceptions.org http://spinflow.org

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#37243 From: Michael Meiser <groups-yahoo-com@...>
Date: Sat Apr 1, 2006 11:12 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Productive Member of the Group mmeiser8
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Sull, Susan, David, Bill, Verdi, and people I missed...  You all make
flames fun.

I could stop reading no more than I could stop laughing.

Sull, just to be clear, I for one don't want to see you in your
unmention-ables. I just wanted to be clear on that, because there's
been so much of that going around that with this group you really
never can tell what you'll see next.

Keep your pants on people. :)

This is the videoblogging group right?

We have a serious lack of boundries here. I know that's what I love
most about this group.

Perhaps we should start a "naked videoblogging" group?

LOL everyone.

Peace,

Mike

On Apr 1, 2006, at 4:37 PM, Lisa wrote:

> As a Former Rocky Horror Picture Show Enthusiast... I would looove
> to see Bill in some fishnets, bustier, and some patent stilettos....
> Could be highly entertaining ;>}
>
> As a reserved and responsible wife and a mother of four....I'm
> shocked! Shocked I say!!
>
> Daughtershow
> www.daughtershow.com
>
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" <kitykity@...> wrote:
>>
>> I second that emotion!  :D
>>
>> Susan
>> http://vlog.kitykity.com
>>
>>
>> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "David Howell" <taoofdavid@>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'll second that. Bill in a little lacy teddy could do wonders
> for the
>>> vlogging community.
>>>
>>> David
>>> http://www.davidhowellstudios.com
>>>
>>> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Markus Sandy <markus@>
> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> did i miss a video bill?
>>>>
>>>> i'd like to see that one ;)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bill Streeter wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yeah says you. I tried that and it didn't do shit for me. I
> had to
>>>>> resort to rock'n'roll.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill Streeter
>>>>> LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
>>>>> www.lofistl.com
>>>>>
>>>>> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Casey McKinnon"
> <mskitka@>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Then again... you could always pose in your lingerie, that
> seems to
>>>>>> work too!  :P
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Markus Sandy
>>>>
>>>> http://apperceptions.org
>>>> http://spinflow.org
>>>>
>>>
>>
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#37244 From: "Stephanie Bryant" <mortaine@...>
Date: Sat Apr 1, 2006 11:17 pm
Subject: Re: mortaine
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Frankly, I think you should look at Rocketboom's success and ask
yourself "why are we different? Why did we make it?"

I, for one, would be fascinated at the answer. You're in a unique
position, and therefore have a unique perspective to share.

--Stephanie

On 4/1/06, andrew michael baron <andrew@...> wrote:
> We are trying to figure out what would be the best angle to discuss
> at Vloggercon for our panel with Rocketboom and so I thought we
> should probably just ask what you think would be the most interesting
> or useful direction.

--
Stephanie Bryant
mortaine@...
Blogs, vlogs, and audioblogs at:
http://www.mortaine.com/blogs

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#37245 From: Michael Meiser <groups-yahoo-com@...>
Date: Sat Apr 1, 2006 11:18 pm
Subject: Re: vPIP 0.13 Beta is out mmeiser8
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Sweet plugin Enric. I know I've been quiet, but when I talk about the
need for independant, open source development to extend the video
blogging platform and make vlogging more accessible to everyone. This
is exactly what I mean.  Wordpress in particular is an excellent
place to start.

BTW, did you catch the Wordpress "podpress" plugin. I realized after
I posted it that there had already been some lite discussion of it.
But I haven't heard a peep from anyone who's tried it in the vlog
community.  They've discussed it heavily on the podcasting yahoo group.

BTW, sorry it's taking so long to get spreadthemedia.org going.
We're all very busy people, but someday soon we'll have a wikiesque
directory of open source projects... It just takes time.

Peace,

-Mike

On Apr 1, 2006, at 10:58 AM, Enric wrote:

> New in 0.13 Beta Release
> ------------------------
>    - The "Generate vPIP vPIP HTML code" utility is incorporated in
> Wordpress.  It's available from the blue "vPIP" button below the text
> box when writing a post.
>
>    - Multiple video formats can be included in one vPIP entry.  A
> links for a combination of quicktime, windows media and flash videos
> will activate in the same vPIP entry.
>
> vPIP Install and Usage page
> ---------------------------
> http://utilities.cinegage.com/videos-playing-in-place
>
> What is vPIP?
> -------------
> vPIP (videos Playing In Place) allows the embedding of videos only
> when a link, usually image representing the video, is clicked.  This
> allows a vlog page to load quickly.  Then when the link is clicked,
> the video replaces the link and appears next to the blog text.  vPIP
> supports Quicktime, Windows Media and Flash movies.
>
> vPIP is a javascript program available for all blogging and website
> systems and a Wordpress plugin.
>
>    -- Enric
>    -======-
>    http://www.cirne.com
>
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#37246 From: "Casey McKinnon" <mskitka@...>
Date: Sun Apr 2, 2006 1:01 am
Subject: Re: big announcement ms.kitka
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I feel like such a fool...

Casey

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Van Dijck"
<petervandijck@...> wrote:
>
> So yes, it *is* an April's fools joke.
>
> Sorry!
> P
>
> On 4/1/06, JADonnelly <videotv@...> wrote:
> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Van Dijck"
> > <petervandijck@> wrote:
> > >
> > CONGRATS PETER...
> > Hopefully, this isn't an April Fools Joke? :)
> >
> > JDonnelly
> > Dummycast.com
> > Madpod.com
> > Petsonboard.com
> > TechY2.com
> >
> >
> > > I have wanted to tell people this for a long time, but I wasn't
> > > allowed to. So sorry to a bunch of you who should have known this,
> > > sorry for having to keep you in the dark.
> > >
> > > I received an offer I couldn't refuse from Yahoo to buy Mefeedia.
> > >
> > > I'm sure you all will have lots of questions (sellout?), and
I'll talk
> > > more about this in time, but I just wanted to get this out there.  I
> > > am very excited, particularly because my new boss is Lucas Gonze
(from
> > > Webjay fame). So there we go! Lots of exciting future plans.
> > >
> > > Just let me assure everyone: in my discussions, I emphasized the
> > > importance of a good directory that is focused on
*videobloggers*, and
> > > Lucas is totally with that.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Peter
> > > --
> > > http://mefeedia.com
> > >
> > > ps: yes, this is also the reason behind the recent speed
improvements.
> > > We still haven't moved the entire infrastructure (the thumbs
> > > particularly) to Yahoo infrastructure, but we should be there by
> > > Wednesday.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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#37247 From: "Joshua Seiden" <joshseiden@...>
Date: Sun Apr 2, 2006 2:29 am
Subject: Re: Week of Vlogging Dangerously joshseiden
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I'm in.

http://more3.blogspot.com

JS

On 3/31/06, Stephanie Bryant < mortaine@...> wrote:

How: Post to the videoblogging group under this subject line that
you're going to participate, with a link to your vlog. I'll try to set
up an RSS webpage with all the "week of" vlogs.

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#37248 From: "Casey McKinnon" <mskitka@...>
Date: Sun Apr 2, 2006 2:30 am
Subject: Re: Rocketboom Panel Discussion ms.kitka
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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron
<andrew@...> wrote:
> We also thought it might be useful to discuss all kinds of business
> aspects, including contracts, deals, ways to consider monetizing or
> not, more ways to promote and distribute, business horror stories,
> etc. but I'm not sure if the majority of videobloggers would find
> that useful either.

I think hearing about your business experiences would be very valuable
to many people, but it is also political.  Although many of us see the
medium as a possible career path, others think it's important to be a
"struggling arteest".  Of course, those people don't have to attend
your panel... but I have a feeling you don't want to drive away your
audience.

Personally, I would like to see you discuss your business experiences.
  As a community we can learn from your successes/flops and figure out
what works together.  I think it would also be interesting to hear
about any opportunities you may have turned down.

Casey

http://www.kitkast.com/

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#37249 From: "Enric" <enric@...>
Date: Sun Apr 2, 2006 2:51 am
Subject: Re: vPIP 0.13 Beta is out iragilac
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Thanks, Michael.

I haven't use podpress yet.  I've heard a bit about it and looked at
their site.  Sometime later I'll drive it around the block.

    ;),

    Enric

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Meiser
<groups-yahoo-com@...> wrote:
>
> Sweet plugin Enric. I know I've been quiet, but when I talk about the
> need for independant, open source development to extend the video
> blogging platform and make vlogging more accessible to everyone. This
> is exactly what I mean.  Wordpress in particular is an excellent
> place to start.
>
> BTW, did you catch the Wordpress "podpress" plugin. I realized after
> I posted it that there had already been some lite discussion of it.
> But I haven't heard a peep from anyone who's tried it in the vlog
> community.  They've discussed it heavily on the podcasting yahoo group.
>
> BTW, sorry it's taking so long to get spreadthemedia.org going.
> We're all very busy people, but someday soon we'll have a wikiesque
> directory of open source projects... It just takes time.
>
> Peace,
>
> -Mike
>
> On Apr 1, 2006, at 10:58 AM, Enric wrote:
>
> > New in 0.13 Beta Release
> > ------------------------
> >    - The "Generate vPIP vPIP HTML code" utility is incorporated in
> > Wordpress.  It's available from the blue "vPIP" button below the text
> > box when writing a post.
> >
> >    - Multiple video formats can be included in one vPIP entry.  A
> > links for a combination of quicktime, windows media and flash videos
> > will activate in the same vPIP entry.
> >
> > vPIP Install and Usage page
> > ---------------------------
> > http://utilities.cinegage.com/videos-playing-in-place
> >
> > What is vPIP?
> > -------------
> > vPIP (videos Playing In Place) allows the embedding of videos only
> > when a link, usually image representing the video, is clicked.  This
> > allows a vlog page to load quickly.  Then when the link is clicked,
> > the video replaces the link and appears next to the blog text.  vPIP
> > supports Quicktime, Windows Media and Flash movies.
> >
> > vPIP is a javascript program available for all blogging and website
> > systems and a Wordpress plugin.
> >
> >    -- Enric
> >    -======-
> >    http://www.cirne.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
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#37250 From: "Enric" <enric@...>
Date: Sun Apr 2, 2006 2:55 am
Subject: Rocketboom Panel Discussion iragilac
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I think 1) how to develop and decide on business deals and 2) possible
future paths of distributed network media are topics of interest.

   -- Enric
   -======-
   http://www.cirne.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron
<andrew@...> wrote:
>
> We are trying to figure out what would be the best angle to discuss
> at Vloggercon for our panel with Rocketboom and so I thought we
> should probably just ask what you think would be the most interesting
> or useful direction.
>
> At first we were considering a discussion about how the world is
> coming together over video online, though you know more than anyone
> about that already.
>
> We also thought it might be useful to discuss all kinds of business
> aspects, including contracts, deals, ways to consider monetizing or
> not, more ways to promote and distribute, business horror stories,
> etc. but I'm not sure if the majority of videobloggers would find
> that useful either.
>
> There is also the topic of "show" and "format", but again, I don't
> know if many people are interested in that.
>
> Over the past year, in other cases of panels, its been pretty easy to
> figure out because the audiences have been almost entirely out of the
> loop so whatever the thread of the conference was, we would just talk
> about our take on the matters.
>
> So here we are with all like-minded people and wondering what we
> could do to be the most helpful
>
> Any ideas?
>

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#37251 From: "Michael Sullivan" <sulleleven@...>
Date: Sun Apr 2, 2006 2:57 am
Subject: Re: big announcement sulleleven
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truth is, Apple offered to buy me for a year and absorb vlogdir.
not yahoo. i'd prefer open yahoo over closed crApple!
thats what i told them and that was the end of that.

5 years ago on April 1st, i joined a company that was a subsidiary of Clear Channel.
As it turned out, THAT was my Fools day.

On 4/1/06, Peter Van Dijck <petervandijck@...> wrote:

Vlogdir got bought by Yahoo! Yey!

On 4/1/06, Michael Sullivan < sulleleven@...> wrote:
>  Ha!  Peter, I started to write the same exact message 2 days ago as a
> pre-April fools joke.
> i didnt send it though.
>
>
>
>
> On 4/1/06, Peter Van Dijck < petervandijck@...> wrote:
> >
> OK I told myself the first person who mentiones the date - that's when
> I fess up.
>
> April's fool. Mefeedia hasn't been acquired by anyone.
>
> I laughed a lot though. Quite a few people sent me private
> congratulatory emails, and were really surprised when I told them the
> truth.
>
> Back to the usual programming!
> Peter
> --
> http://mefeedia.com
>
> On 4/1/06, Andr� Sala <andrensala@...> wrote:
>  >  Congrats!  Hope this isn't related to today being April Fools though...
> :)
> >
> >
> > On 4/1/06, Peter Van Dijck <petervandijck@... > wrote:
> > >
> > I have wanted to tell people this for a long time, but I wasn't
> > allowed to. So sorry to a bunch of you who should have known this,
> > sorry for having to keep you in the dark.
> >
> > I received an offer I couldn't refuse from Yahoo to buy Mefeedia.
> >
> > I'm sure you all will have lots of questions (sellout?), and I'll talk
> > more about this in time, but I just wanted to get this out there.  I
> > am very excited, particularly because my new boss is Lucas Gonze (from
> > Webjay fame). So there we go! Lots of exciting future plans.
> >
> > Just let me assure everyone: in my discussions, I emphasized the
> > importance of a good directory that is focused on *videobloggers*, and
> > Lucas is totally with that.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Peter
> > --
> > http://mefeedia.com
> >
> > ps: yes, this is also the reason behind the recent speed improvements.
> > We still haven't moved the entire infrastructure (the thumbs
> > particularly) to Yahoo infrastructure, but we should be there by
> > Wednesday.
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  ________________________________
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> >
> >
> >  Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web.
> >
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#37252 From: Pete Prodoehl <raster@...>
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> Great news! Congrats you guys.
> Working with Lucas.  That's the icing on the cake if you ask me. That
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> Man, I'm getting more impressed with Yahoo's thinking all the time.

No kidding...

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#37253 From: Ron Watson <k9disc@...>
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Interesting thread.�

Something that drives me crazy about this group is that there is some serious confusion about what is and is not spam.

When someone posts about a vlog they are proud of, some people tend to think that it is spam. I actually apologized for spamming the group when I posted a piece that I was proud of (thanks for the feedback for all of you that viewed and reviewed it). I think that is a problem.�

I found nothing seriously distatasteful about the VLOGGERS UNITE thread from Jason, the original poster, and in his mea culpa, he brought up some issues that are important to me. Namely the fact that RSS is some kind of tool to get exposure. It is not a tool for exposure. It is simple distribution; it is shipping, more or less.�

I notice that most of the people who responded with angst in this thread have pretty good name recognition within this community. I am not attacking anyone, but I think that those of you who are established Vloggers don't really see the problems for getting exposure for a new Vlog. You all created this, and have deep (or not so deep) relationships with the other members of the community. People go to your Vlogs to learn. Your vlogs show up at the top of mefeedia, and have huge interconnected distribution channels because of that.�

There are now almost 7000 feeds at mefeedia. When I started Vlogging in December '05 there were 3000. How many were there when you started Vlogging?

Exposure for vlogs is a problem, and it gets bigger everyday. Those problems are compounded when, in a group about video blogging, asking for people to check out your vlog is spam.�

As far as the VLOGGERS UNITE thread, I don't have a problem with it, and don't see it as spam, any more than I see this entire list as spam. I like this group, and have learned tons from it, but there is very little of what I got that I actually ask for. I appreciate the 'spam' on this list. It is some of the finest spam on the internet.�

I am not going to join that group, but I don't mind deleting one more of my 230� videoblogging messages in my inbox.�

I don't know what to do about the exposure problem, so this is kind of a meta piece, with probably little to no value, but I felt as if I should chime in and speak my mind.�

Oh yea, we just signed the paperwork for our new dog training studio, boutique and art gallery.�

<snark>I will be posting video soon, and if it is good enough I will 'spam' the group with the info, mainly in the hopes that local vlogging hero Josh Leo will watch it and come out and vlog about it. Then maybe all of you will get a chance to see our new place. </snark>�

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I just find one thing funny. That posting your posts to a yahoo group� is the fastest way to get your pages listed. Quite frankly the fastest way to get your pages listed is through� your RSS feed. Specifically if you use feedburner as that no only� indexes your feed and pings all the relevant websites, but also� includes mediaRSS info which is sent straight to yahoo. Furthermore building an audience of subscribers through actually� offering value not spam is the best possible way to build a long term� repeat audience... focus on promoting subscriptions not just� individual posts. Visitors to your site come and go, subscribers� stick around. When I heard about this proposed yahoo group I simply heard the term� spam group. By all means though if you want to spam yourself and� others who would spam you go right a head. A giant echo chamber...� people yelling at each other... check out my feed, no check out my� feed. Everyone shouting noone listening. I think it'd be funny. Just� don't do it here. And btw, for future reference, people don't like being "experimented� with" that definitely does not make it OK. In fact it may offend� people worse than just being clueless, because it's condescending too. -Mike mmeiser.com/blog On Mar 31, 2006, at 12:16 PM, Steve Watkins wrote: > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Stephanie Bryant" > <mortaine@...> wrote: >> >> I don't think you know anything about Internet marketing. If you did, >> you would know the difference between a discussion group and an >> audience for spam. > > I think thats a very important point that helps explain this groups > stance on what are not acceptable ways to do business here. Of course > there is no single groupview on this or any other issue, but certaint > kinds of marketing are definately one of the things that gets some > vocal peoples backs up here. > > I personally dislike marketing in general, but I have a passionate > hate for really vulgar marketing & sales techniques, adverts etc. Now > it seems to be that these days there are a lot of companies that are > doing the modern style of sleek seductive advertising, and internet > savvy/more ethical/less vulgar type stuff. And this stuff is bound to > be a bit more palatable to a wider range of people and the blogosphere > than the other sort of marketing, the sort that gives marketing a bad > name, and that I have ranted about in the past. > > If Im not mistaken this latest vulgar marketeer has tried an ebay > auction of pixels on his site, and the marketing used on the ebay > auction page for that item is just a classic example of the kind of > marketing that will get you a lot of heat from people. It makes some > people hopping mad, I will speculate as to some of the reasons why: > > 1) A relentless hard sell. If the product is worth it, why the need > for hard sell? > > 2) The hideously outdated and tacky use of a few specific font > attributes. Clearly there must be a long tradition of dodgy marketeers > selling other would-be marketeers stupid guides that say that using > red sentences and ALL CAPITALS at specific moments, then throw in some > blue sentences, along with a relentless style of bullshit, will just > melt those potential customers minds and the dollars will come a > flowing. NO! It looks bad enough on backpage classified adverts, on > the internet it just looks like laughable parpings of the truly� > desperate. > > 3) The term 'viral marketing' is used. It wouldnt be called viral if > it was a nice thing. Does that make the person behind viral marketing > campaign a virus? If so then is an angry response a yahoo groups best > innoculation against such a virus? > > Oh well I dont know why Im bothering with this rant, experience so far > is that the people who indulge in such stuff never seem to understand > why some people get so upset with it and them. They dont see anything > wrong with it, which is understandable as humans need to > self-rationalise their own behaviour. So its percieved that we who > moan are the problem, that we must be a minority, so its worth setting > up another group where the majority will live happily with the viral > marketing slugs and be happy to be crudely manipulated by them using > the power of red fonts and half-understood pseudo-marketing� > techniques. > > Nah, anyway I think the biggest brainwrong is the assumption that its > only a minority who hate this sort of marketing. I happen to think > that most people are against hard selling because if something is > worth buying, why the need to push it so. And its totally natural that > humans hate the idea of being manipulated by anybody else. So whilst > they may still sometimes fall for sophisticated advertising or subtle > uses of emotions in adverts (or even not so subtle uses of eg sex to > sell), they will not have pleasant thoughts about stuff that is not > subtle, is pushy or invasive etc. > > A bizarre test of this opinion of mine that the majority hate such > things, would be wrestling. A wrestler with the gimic of doing that > sort of marketing/selling, would be an instant heel, plenty of cheap > heat from the crowd, and some people would pay good money to see > another person pretend to beat him up. And it wasnt loud-mouthed > opinionated gits like me who decided the masses should think that way. > > If anybody has any ideas about how video could be used to fight viral > marketing and other such stains on human civilisation, I would be > ready to reactivate unquack.com for just such a purpose. > > Steve of Elbows > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >

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#37254 From: "Richard Show" <richard@...>
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Andrew,

To me, there are some very interesting/amazing things about RocketBoom

1) The amount of viewers/downloads went from nothing to something comparable with pretty sucessful cable TV show in a year or less.
2) It did this with almost none of the overhead associated with "normal" TV or Movies.
3) It did this throgh a distribution channel very different from traditional TV and Video (the internet).
4) Rocketboom has developed advertising methods very unlike things that have come before (having creative control over adds - auctioning on eBay)
5) It appears that you have and are resisting temptations that must have occured to change your methodology to be more traditional.

... to me, the RocketBoom story is a really really interesting one, at least based on these outcomes, and, for me, I'm most interested in, how in the world did it get to be this way? how did you start? what do you do on a daily basis? what sorts of things are you considering in the future? how much was planned/vision, and how much was random? etc...

... the other thing is that, as I understand it, you grew up with this community - the Yahoo vlogging group - even today, you are sending a message to this list to ask us what we are interested in, and you guys still seem to keep up and contribute, despite all you have going ... Michael Verdi was telling me about how he used to edit for RocketBoom for a while at the beginning, and you would move his air matress on your apt floor to make room for the show ... I had not idea about those connections, for example ... what a story

... that's the sort of thing that interests me, the whole rocketboom story and; especially, how it grew and it related to our little community, and I think that would be interesting to our group, and the outside world as well ... anyway, my thoughts ... Richard

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#37255 From: "Stephanie Bryant" <mortaine@...>
Date: Sun Apr 2, 2006 6:50 pm
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On 4/2/06, Ron Watson <k9disc@...> wrote:

Interesting thread.
Something that drives me crazy about this group is that there is some serious confusion about what is and is not spam.
When someone posts about a vlog they are proud of, some people tend to think that it is spam. I actually apologized for spamming the group when I posted a piece that I was proud of (thanks for the feedback for all of you that viewed and reviewed it). I think that is a problem.

I do not personally have a problem with:
* An introduction post the first time someone puts up their videoblog
* A "wow this was tough/fun/interesting" when there's something GENUINELY cool about a recent vlog they posted.
* A post introducing a videoblogging-related product or service. These annoy me if they are the only thing the person posts, however; learn to contribute.

I do have a problem with:
* A post every day or so with the same information posted yesterday. Namely "check out my vlog." Hey, if we didn't go see it yesterday, what makes you think today is different?
* A post EVERY TIME someone posts a vlog entry. Sorry-- each individual vlog is probably not that unique. Cool and important to you, sure. But not enough to post every time you update. This isn't a notification list.
* People who use this group as an experiment in their marketing plans. I can go on and on about experimentation in marketing, but the fact is, Jason either lied about that, or is a very unethical marketer. I think we know the latter is true, at least. There's a very limited set of cases where it's ethical to experiment on a group without their knowledge or permission. This isn't one of them.
* People who also privately email individual members of the group to ask them why they haven't come to look at their vlogs. From email I have received, Jason may have done this, as well, basically using the videoblogging group as a source for email addresses to follow-up with his marketing garbage.

I do agree that RSS is not a promotional tool per se, in the sense that it doesn't get more people to see your vlog. However, RSS makes it easier to get your vlog into certain search and index sites.

I notice that most of the people who responded with angst in this thread have pretty good name recognition within this community. I am not attacking anyone, but I think that those of you who are established Vloggers don't really see the problems for getting exposure for a new Vlog.

This is very, very true. The "core" vloggers will, whether they like it or not, be seen as "cliqueish" as more videobloggers enter the vlogging world. That's not who they are, and not what they're about-- in fact, it's hard to find a more enthusiastic, engaging, and inclusive group of folks in the high tech world. But the nature of group dynamics is such that this is a nearly-inevitable side effect of becoming "the experts."

Exposure for vlogs is a problem, and it gets bigger everyday. Those problems are compounded when, in a group about video blogging, asking for people to check out your vlog is spam.

It's not spam. It's spam when it's every 12 hours.

Oh yea, we just signed the paperwork for our new dog training studio, boutique and art gallery.
<snark>I will be posting video soon, and if it is good enough I will 'spam' the group with the info, mainly in the hopes that local vlogging hero Josh Leo will watch it and come out and vlog about it. Then maybe all of you will get a chance to see our new place. </snark>

See, I don't see this as spammy at all, because you contributed valuable thoughts and perspective to the discussion. There *has* to be a high signal-to-noise ratio on this list, or it will collapse.

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#37256 From: "Richard Show" <richard@...>
Date: Sun Apr 2, 2006 7:10 pm
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ok ... I couldn't resist, I made a day before video blogging week promo for my vlog ...

http://www.richardshow.com/?p=54

... and (though I probably shouldn't admit it), I definately took some time to edit ... Richard

On 4/1/06, David Howell <taoofdavid@...> wrote:

Ya...watch me go down in flames in the process ;)

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From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:videoblogging@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of missbhavens1969 Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 12:26 PM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Vlog Week 2006!! April 3-9!!!

Oy! No edit? Yeah! Now you're cooking with gas... Bekah http://misbhavens.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "David Howell" <taoofdavid@...> wrote: > > And it was said... > > "There is no edit. There is only shoot and post." > > And it was good. > > David > http://www.davidhowellstudios.com > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Casey McKinnon" <mskitka@> > wrote: > > > > Smart idea, but the more things we have to join and tag, the more > > difficult and complicated VB Week is going to be... let's keep it > > simple... editing every night next week will be tough enough. > > > > Casey > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "david_dudas" <david_dudas@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Count me in! > > > > > > I created a group on eyespot called videobloggingweek2006... > > > > > > http://eyespot.com/groups/videobloggingweek2006 > > > > > > ...and put a few clips in there of familiar faces. I think it would be > > > cool if everyone contributes clips that we can all mix and remix... > > > > > > David > > > > > > (p.s. to join the group look for the "join" link on the left side of > > > the page) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Josh Leo" <joshleo@> wrote: > > > > > > > > 1 Video each day > > > > 7 days ov videos > > > > tag it: videobloggingweek2006 > > > > April 3-9 > > > > > > > > Get involved and MAKE THIS THING HUGE! > > > > > > > > It has now been officially Declared! > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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#37257 From: "Richard Show" <richard@...>
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In reading about technorati tags, it says that, if you make a category in wordpress that technorati will recogize and categologue that feed.

I created a cateogry for video blog week 2006 and used it for my day before vlog week post.

I actually called the tag video blog week 2006, but for the "slug" I put it all together as one word videoblogweek2006

... Should that work?

(when I got to http://www.technorati.com/tag/videobloggingweek2006 it doesn't show anything, even though I did the update/ping thing with my vlog)

... Any help from wordpress/tagging experts much appreciated ... thanks .. Richard
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#37258 From: "Andreas Haugstrup" <solitude@...>
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> In reading about technorati tags, it says that, if you make a category in
> wordpress that technorati will recogize and categologue that feed.

True. :o)

> I actually called the tag video blog week 2006, but for the "slug" I put
> it
> all together as one word videoblogweek2006
>
> ... Should that work?

Nope. :o)

> (when I got to http://www.technorati.com/tag/videobloggingweek2006 it
> doesn't show anything, even though I did the update/ping thing with my
> vlog)

You're at <URL: http://www.technorati.com/tag/Video%20Blog%20Week%202006 >
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I, on the other hand, seem to be banned. My blog post from yesterday still
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#37259 From: "Josh Leo" <joshleo@...>
Date: Sun Apr 2, 2006 7:31 pm
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isnt the tag videoblogGINGweek2006?

On 4/2/06, Richard Show <richard@...> wrote:

In reading about technorati tags, it says that, if you make a category in wordpress that technorati will recogize and categologue that feed. I created a cateogry for video blog week 2006 and used it for my day before vlog week post. I actually called the tag video blog week 2006, but for the "slug" I put it all together as one word videoblogweek2006 ... Should that work? (when I got to http://www.technorati.com/tag/videobloggingweek2006 it doesn't show anything, even though I did the update/ping thing with my vlog) ... Any help from wordpress/tagging experts much appreciated ... thanks .. Richard -- Richard http://www.richardshow.com

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#37260 From: "Richard Show" <richard@...>
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On the vlog that Steve Garfield created, it's listed as

videobloggingweek2006

(no caps)

.. Richard

On 4/2/06, Josh Leo <joshleo@...> wrote:

isnt the tag videoblogGINGweek2006?
On 4/2/06, Richard Show < richard@...> wrote:

In reading about technorati tags, it says that, if you make a category in wordpress that technorati will recogize and categologue that feed. I created a cateogry for video blog week 2006 and used it for my day before vlog week post. I actually called the tag video blog week 2006, but for the "slug" I put it all together as one word videoblogweek2006 ... Should that work? (when I got to http://www.technorati.com/tag/videobloggingweek2006 it doesn't show anything, even though I did the update/ping thing with my vlog) ... Any help from wordpress/tagging experts much appreciated ... thanks .. Richard -- Richard http://www.richardshow.com
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#37261 From: "Richard Show" <richard@...>
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Josh ... I see why you capitalized the letters, because I forgot them! ... duh! ... thanks ... Richard

On 4/2/06, Richard Show < richard@...> wrote:

On the vlog that Steve Garfield created, it's listed as

videobloggingweek2006

(no caps)

.. Richard

On 4/2/06, Josh Leo <joshleo@...> wrote:

isnt the tag videoblogGINGweek2006?
On 4/2/06, Richard Show < richard@...> wrote:

In reading about technorati tags, it says that, if you make a category in wordpress that technorati will recogize and categologue that feed. I created a cateogry for video blog week 2006 and used it for my day before vlog week post. I actually called the tag video blog week 2006, but for the "slug" I put it all together as one word videoblogweek2006 ... Should that work? (when I got to http://www.technorati.com/tag/videobloggingweek2006 it doesn't show anything, even though I did the update/ping thing with my vlog) ... Any help from wordpress/tagging experts much appreciated ... thanks .. Richard -- Richard http://www.richardshow.com
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