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#6830 From: Jay dedman <jay.dedman@...>
Date: Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:07 pm
Subject: A Friendly Warning
kinshasa2000
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I just got another co-worker to try videoblogging.
http://breathingplanet.typepad.com/blog/2005/02/post.html

he rides with Critical Mass in Manhattan.
Once a month, the bikes take over the streets.
but the NY cops are putting a stop to it ever since 5000 bikers
organized in downtown during the Republican National Convention...

anyway, funny video.

Jay

#6831 From: "yveywonder" <toyves@...>
Date: Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:44 pm
Subject: unlimited bandwidth (formerly Re: vlogs.it)
yveywonder
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Doteasy offers unmetered bandwidth for $9.95/mo. I've been using them
as a hosting service for awhile now. I think this is a new offering.
Maybe the newest feature for ISPs to offer...

Check it out:
http://doteasy.com/Services/WebHosting/

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman <jay.dedman@g...>
wrote:
> > >  ______________________
> > >  VLog Anyone?
> > >  Posted on Wednesday 23 February 2005
> > >
> > >  Lee Wilkins has set up a great hosting service for anyone
wanting to
> > >  start a video log. $5 a month or $50 a year and you get
hosting and
> > >  unlimited bandwidth for your vlog with (yourname).vlogs.it as
your
> > >  hostname.
> > >
> > > http://www.rjb.za.net/archives/2005/02/23/vlog-anyone/
> > >  _______________________
>
> Hey lee--
>
> i think you posted some info on the videoblogigng group.
> we found this post recently.
> you care to share the scoop?
> you really mean UNLIMITED bandwdith?
>
> Jay

#6832 From: "R. Kristiansen" <raymondmk@...>
Date: Tue Mar 1, 2005 12:15 am
Subject: My disclosure/roles dilemma
admnory
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Dear videobloggers,

I have seriously been feeling quite strange the last days. Today it
became official that I have started working for a company that makes
blogging software (www.blogsoft.net). It is a small Norwegian upstart,
but we have a few important clients already and we are expanding. I am
videoblogging responsible, and ever since I was offered this job - and
I accepted - I have been having this nagging tickle in my mind. It is
driving me crazy sometimes.

Yes, I have been working for companies before, as well as NGOs and
political parties. Yet I have never had a conflict of personal
interests like now, and I would just like to ask about your thoughts
on this.

How can I continue making videoblogs without being seen as simply
doing cheap PR for my company? How can I mention my "day job" without
feeling dirty? Is it just something wrong with me, or is this a
general problem for people who suddenly find themselves working for
The Evil Capitalists?

I want to continue to videoblog, to be able to be silly, and make a
vlog while drunk, or having another bad hair day, or when I complain
about some political issue or whatever. This is, obviously, a very new
situation for me, and I seriously have no idea how to handle it.

I want to stay true to myself, while not compromising my employers. I
want to be able to hold several roles and mix them but not mix them so
much that it becomes ugly and cheap.

Any thoughts on this?

best regards,

Raymond M. Kristiansen
- can I still just be a videoblogger?

#6833 From: "Stuart Lawson" <stuartml@...>
Date: Tue Mar 1, 2005 12:27 am
Subject: Re: [IRC] vb irc chat room & website idea
stuartml1
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I like it, but I was thinking something more specific, I guess its
only a matter of time :)


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan
<sulleleven@g...> wrote:
> yeah, right on.  that's cool.
> check out medicinefilms.com and their approach to assignments.
> i dig it.
>

#6834 From: Adam Quirk <bullemhead@...>
Date: Tue Mar 1, 2005 12:28 am
Subject: Re: My disclosure/roles dilemma
cassiusbulle...
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Does your company read/view DLTQ?

Do you like your company?  If so, vlog about it if you want to!  There
are no restrictions on what you can talk about, remember?

Congrats on the new job.
Keep up the good work with DLTQ.
-Adam


On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 01:15:18 +0100, R. Kristiansen <raymondmk@...> wrote:
>
> Dear videobloggers,
>
> I have seriously been feeling quite strange the last days. Today it
> became official that I have started working for a company that makes
> blogging software (www.blogsoft.net). It is a small Norwegian upstart,
> but we have a few important clients already and we are expanding. I am
> videoblogging responsible, and ever since I was offered this job - and
> I accepted - I have been having this nagging tickle in my mind. It is
> driving me crazy sometimes.
>
> Yes, I have been working for companies before, as well as NGOs and
> political parties. Yet I have never had a conflict of personal
> interests like now, and I would just like to ask about your thoughts
> on this.
>
> How can I continue making videoblogs without being seen as simply
> doing cheap PR for my company? How can I mention my "day job" without
> feeling dirty? Is it just something wrong with me, or is this a
> general problem for people who suddenly find themselves working for
> The Evil Capitalists?
>
> I want to continue to videoblog, to be able to be silly, and make a
> vlog while drunk, or having another bad hair day, or when I complain
> about some political issue or whatever. This is, obviously, a very new
> situation for me, and I seriously have no idea how to handle it.
>
> I want to stay true to myself, while not compromising my employers. I
> want to be able to hold several roles and mix them but not mix them so
> much that it becomes ugly and cheap.
>
> Any thoughts on this?
>
> best regards,
>
> Raymond M. Kristiansen
> - can I still just be a videoblogger?
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

#6835 From: Lisa Harper <lisah2u@...>
Date: Tue Mar 1, 2005 12:33 am
Subject: Re: My disclosure/roles dilemma
lisah2u
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It sounds like an ethical dilemma, Raymond. Maybe you could keep two
blogs. One remains entirely personal. It's you and it's about you and
all of your interests, and the other, perhaps, crosses the line into
discussion about products and work. Of course, that has to be okay
with your company. I face this dilemma almost daily. I'd love to talk
about work, but I won't do it on my personal blog. I'm thinking of
creating a couple of re-blogs that reflect my work interests but still
maintain anonymity when it comes to particular projects or sponsors.
Lisa
http://www.lisaharper.org

On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 01:15:18 +0100, R. Kristiansen <raymondmk@...> wrote:
>
> Dear videobloggers,
>
> I have seriously been feeling quite strange the last days. Today it
> became official that I have started working for a company that makes
> blogging software (www.blogsoft.net). It is a small Norwegian upstart,
> but we have a few important clients already and we are expanding. I am
> videoblogging responsible, and ever since I was offered this job - and
> I accepted - I have been having this nagging tickle in my mind. It is
> driving me crazy sometimes.
>
> Yes, I have been working for companies before, as well as NGOs and
> political parties. Yet I have never had a conflict of personal
> interests like now, and I would just like to ask about your thoughts
> on this.
>
> How can I continue making videoblogs without being seen as simply
> doing cheap PR for my company? How can I mention my "day job" without
> feeling dirty? Is it just something wrong with me, or is this a
> general problem for people who suddenly find themselves working for
> The Evil Capitalists?
>
> I want to continue to videoblog, to be able to be silly, and make a
> vlog while drunk, or having another bad hair day, or when I complain
> about some political issue or whatever. This is, obviously, a very new
> situation for me, and I seriously have no idea how to handle it.
>
> I want to stay true to myself, while not compromising my employers. I
> want to be able to hold several roles and mix them but not mix them so
> much that it becomes ugly and cheap.
>
> Any thoughts on this?
>
> best regards,
>
> Raymond M. Kristiansen
> - can I still just be a videoblogger?
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>


--
Lisa Harper
http://www.lisaharper.org

#6836 From: Joshua Kinberg <jkinberg@...>
Date: Tue Mar 1, 2005 12:38 am
Subject: Re: My disclosure/roles dilemma
joshkinberg
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just remain transparent. There are several examples of bloggers who
work for companies and are upfront about it. Sometimes they talk about
their companies, but usually in a frank way, and they usually know
where the line is betweenacceptable information and TMI.

A favorite example of mine is Jeremy Zawodny who works for Yahoo!
(http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/). He writes about a lot of things,
including Yahoo! from time to time. He's frank, honest, but doesn't
cross the line where he might be giving away too much insight into the
inner workings of Yahoo!

-Josh

On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 19:28:50 -0500, Adam Quirk <bullemhead@...> wrote:
>
> Does your company read/view DLTQ?
>
> Do you like your company?  If so, vlog about it if you want to!  There
> are no restrictions on what you can talk about, remember?
>
> Congrats on the new job.
> Keep up the good work with DLTQ.
> -Adam
>
>
> On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 01:15:18 +0100, R. Kristiansen <raymondmk@...> wrote:
> >
> > Dear videobloggers,
> >
> > I have seriously been feeling quite strange the last days. Today it
> > became official that I have started working for a company that makes
> > blogging software (www.blogsoft.net). It is a small Norwegian upstart,
> > but we have a few important clients already and we are expanding. I am
> > videoblogging responsible, and ever since I was offered this job - and
> > I accepted - I have been having this nagging tickle in my mind. It is
> > driving me crazy sometimes.
> >
> > Yes, I have been working for companies before, as well as NGOs and
> > political parties. Yet I have never had a conflict of personal
> > interests like now, and I would just like to ask about your thoughts
> > on this.
> >
> > How can I continue making videoblogs without being seen as simply
> > doing cheap PR for my company? How can I mention my "day job" without
> > feeling dirty? Is it just something wrong with me, or is this a
> > general problem for people who suddenly find themselves working for
> > The Evil Capitalists?
> >
> > I want to continue to videoblog, to be able to be silly, and make a
> > vlog while drunk, or having another bad hair day, or when I complain
> > about some political issue or whatever. This is, obviously, a very new
> > situation for me, and I seriously have no idea how to handle it.
> >
> > I want to stay true to myself, while not compromising my employers. I
> > want to be able to hold several roles and mix them but not mix them so
> > much that it becomes ugly and cheap.
> >
> > Any thoughts on this?
> >
> > best regards,
> >
> > Raymond M. Kristiansen
> > - can I still just be a videoblogger?
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

#6837 From: "yveywonder" <toyves@...>
Date: Tue Mar 1, 2005 12:39 am
Subject: Re: unmediated call for info on videoblogging digital still cameras
yveywonder
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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Eli Chapman"
<opensourcefood@y...> wrote:
> ...So while we both work on getting
> cases of cameras from Sanyo, JVC, et al...

You can get wholesale prices on Sanyo cameras directly from Sanyo, but
the minimum order must be for at least $500,000 worth of product.
That's about 1000 Xactis at retail. How are you approaching these
companies?

#6838 From: "Steve Watkins" <steve@...>
Date: Tue Mar 1, 2005 1:20 am
Subject: Re: My disclosure/roles dilemma
elbowsofdeath
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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "R. Kristiansen"
<raymondmk@g...> wrote:

>
> How can I continue making videoblogs without being seen as simply
> doing cheap PR for my company? How can I mention my "day job"
without
> feeling dirty? Is it just something wrong with me, or is this a
> general problem for people who suddenly find themselves working for
> The Evil Capitalists?

Quite a bit depends on what your role in the company is, are you
supposed to be doing cheap PR for them?

I think its perfectly normal for certain personality types, if you
think about things on that level then its totally expected that every
job will cause some dilemmas, and with you gaining so many new roles
in such a short space of time its magnified the problem. Most people
go through issues like this at some point, some spend their lives
battling with it, others seem entirely free from such burdens. Theres
a wide variety of self-judgement systems that will make one person
think of what their company does for the world (or not) and others
think how much their company makes for their family, others work for
the good of the nation etc. Its all about people being able to
justify their actions to themselves according to their own belief
system, as I see no evidence that some people "dont care" or consider
themselves evil. To do things without significant psychological
strain, people have to find some value in their own work/actions, no
matter how obscure. Its hard to get the balance right, Ive no doubt
many people spend significant time and cause themselves emotional
stress over decades by really wondering what their labour is
achieving in the grand scheme of things.

Anyway Im waffling again.

Some salesmen can sell a product without actually believing in it,
and they can sleep at night. Others need to believe in the product to
be able to sell it, if they think it is something that genuinely does
good for people and the world, then its the same to them as selling a
political idea that they think is genuinely good. And of course some
politicians are like the salesmen that doesnt need to believe in the
product to sell it.


> I want to stay true to myself, while not compromising my employers.
I
> want to be able to hold several roles and mix them but not mix them
so
> much that it becomes ugly and cheap.
>
> Any thoughts on this?

Well there will be inevitable compromises, but these are nothing new
in life. Take it slowly and talk to your employers, political party
etc as much as possible. Unfortunately I often find that companies
etc dont tell you what you shouldnt say until after youve already
said it, and obviously by then the mistake is already made. Constant
alertness when posting is required, because the responsibiltiy of
important roles inevitably leads to having to be extra-responsible
with words.  I dont know of a way round it, but yeah you can take
certain steps to help, like keeping a clear seperation between
different blogs with different purposes.

Its not disimmilar to some stuff I said in a waffle about political
videoblogs, if I was great leader then my ability to talk honestly
about most subjects in public would be totally lost.

Drifting offtopic.....

And fame. As an unknown individual I can say all sorts of
controvertial things. If I was a person of interest to the press, my
every word could have huge implications for my future and my families
future.

Fame is the least attractive of all the possible consequences of
videoblogging to me, and I'll surely be more likely to videoblog once
(or if) there are tens of thousands of videobloggers.  I mean take
that Numa Numa bloke, some people have a go at him, but how did he
know how he would feel about being sort of famous until it actually
happened? Ive definately read interviews with famous eg Rock stars
who arent exactly loving the downsides of fame, and at least they
usually got the cash needed to build a world round themselves to
handle the fame. Fame with its perks seems survivable, but infamy
with no perks smells like an infinite prison sentence to me.

Cheers

Steve of Elbows

#6839 From: Lisa Harper <lisah2u@...>
Date: Tue Mar 1, 2005 1:23 am
Subject: Re: Videoblog from Spring Training in Arizona
lisah2u
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WordPress is happily putting multiple enclosures into my posts. Great!
Though, sometimes it's annoying since it makes my poster frames
enclosures, too. I delete them. But I like that I'm forward
compatible. ;-) The trick is to make the very first enclosure the one
you want picked up.
Lisa
http://www.lisaharper.org

On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 17:06:57 -0500, Steve Garfield
<steve@...> wrote:
>
> I disagree back.
>
> There are standards.
>
> The tools need to adhere to standards otherwise there will be chaos.
>
> If the standards change to support multiple enclosures then the tools
> will change to support those new standards.
>
> What good is putting TWO enclosures in one blog post, when your
> aggregator audience will only see ONE of them?
>
> --Steve
> http://stevegarfield.com
>



--
Lisa Harper
http://www.lisaharper.org

#6840 From: "R. Kristiansen" <raymondmk@...>
Date: Tue Mar 1, 2005 1:36 am
Subject: Re: Re: My disclosure/roles dilemma
admnory
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Thank you all for your response so far. I really appreciate that. Yes,
I will just stay transparent.

On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 01:20:18 -0000, Steve Watkins <steve@...> wrote:
>  Quite a bit depends on what your role in the company is, are you
>  supposed to be doing cheap PR for them?

My job is not sales or PR at all. But I might be doing some work for
them, helping companies and institutions like universities start
videoblogging.

>  Some salesmen can sell a product without actually believing in it,
>  and they can sleep at night. Others need to believe in the product to
>  be able to sell it, if they think it is something that genuinely does
>  good for people and the world, then its the same to them as selling a
>  political idea that they think is genuinely good. And of course some
>  politicians are like the salesmen that doesnt need to believe in the
>  product to sell it.

;) I guess I have to believe in something in order to be involved with
it. Once my party starts bashing immigrants because it's "the spirit
of the age", I will quit. Once my company starts doing business in a
bad way, I will step away.

>  I dont know of a way round it, but yeah you can take
>  certain steps to help, like keeping a clear seperation between
>  different blogs with different purposes.

I agree, and I will do this.

Thanks again, all :)

Raymond

#6841 From: ryanne hodson <ryanne.hodson@...>
Date: Tue Mar 1, 2005 1:57 am
Subject: Re: Re: My disclosure/roles dilemma
ryan_hodson
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raymond
you are good
and you know what your boundries are.
don't sweat it.
you are a consultant?
yes!!!!
this is so amazing.
tell us more.
how did you start?
did you just quit your other job and just go with this?
you are an inspiration to us all my friend.
may we follow in your footsteps.

--
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new videos daily:
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#6842 From: "Verdi" <michael@...>
Date: Tue Mar 1, 2005 2:12 am
Subject: Re: video logging has been Scobleized
filmguy1105
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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg <jkinberg@g...>
wrote:
> people are probably linking directly to the video. Is that hosted on
> archive.org?
> -Josh

No, it's on my server.



>
> On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 18:06:21 -0000, Verdi <michael@m...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, maui@a... wrote:
> > >
> >
> > > Verdi, I'm curious, have you seen a traffic spike as a result of the
> > > link?  He's been known to drive a great deal of traffic to other
> > > bloggers.
> >
> > So far I haven't seen his domain in my referal logs even once.  My
> > traffic seems to be about the same it's been all week.

#6843 From: Michael Sullivan <sulleleven@...>
Date: Tue Mar 1, 2005 2:32 am
Subject: Re: unlimited bandwidth (formerly Re: vlogs.it)
sulleleven
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looks good.
what is this feature?
"Remote loading of your files on another website"




On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 23:44:06 -0000, yveywonder <toyves@...> wrote:
>
>
> Doteasy offers unmetered bandwidth for $9.95/mo. I've been using them
> as a hosting service for awhile now. I think this is a new offering.
> Maybe the newest feature for ISPs to offer...
>
> Check it out:
> http://doteasy.com/Services/WebHosting/
>
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman <jay.dedman@g...>
> wrote:
> > > >  ______________________
> > > >  VLog Anyone?
> > > >  Posted on Wednesday 23 February 2005
> > > >
> > > >  Lee Wilkins has set up a great hosting service for anyone
> wanting to
> > > >  start a video log. $5 a month or $50 a year and you get
> hosting and
> > > >  unlimited bandwidth for your vlog with (yourname).vlogs.it as
> your
> > > >  hostname.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.rjb.za.net/archives/2005/02/23/vlog-anyone/
> > > >  _______________________
> >
> > Hey lee--
> >
> > i think you posted some info on the videoblogigng group.
> > we found this post recently.
> > you care to share the scoop?
> > you really mean UNLIMITED bandwdith?
> >
> > Jay
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>


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#6844 From: "v1b3n" <v1b3n@...>
Date: Tue Mar 1, 2005 2:33 am
Subject: Flash Video Format
v1b3n
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Hi Everyone,

I'm the newb here, so flog me gently if ask something stupid.

Here's my current setup (the cheap route):

Blogger account
Internet Archive account (storage for video)
Flickr account

I'm in the process of starting a vlog, but have a couple questions
that seemingly stump google.

I really like the "unique poster frames" for Blogger, but I'm not
planning on using Quicktime.  I'm using FLV (Flash Video Format)
files.  I used the tutorial from below to ad-lib my template.  The
technology specific tags were replaced for the flash stuff.  I can
get my thumbnail pic to show up, but the link for the html file that
has the embedded .swf file won't show up.  Can you link to an html
file within a poster frame, or am I just crazy?

http://www.infodesign.no/artikler/Videoblog_with_Blogger_211004.html

Thanks for this awesome group,

-TaulPaul

#6845 From: Michael Sullivan <sulleleven@...>
Date: Tue Mar 1, 2005 2:43 am
Subject: Re: My disclosure/roles dilemma
sulleleven
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dont over-analyze this.  have fun vlogging and have fun working.  do
both as best you can and if you're gut tells you not to say/do
something, then go with that instinct.  trust yourself.


On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 01:15:18 +0100, R. Kristiansen <raymondmk@...> wrote:
>
> Dear videobloggers,
>
> I have seriously been feeling quite strange the last days. Today it
> became official that I have started working for a company that makes
> blogging software (www.blogsoft.net). It is a small Norwegian upstart,
> but we have a few important clients already and we are expanding. I am
> videoblogging responsible, and ever since I was offered this job - and
> I accepted - I have been having this nagging tickle in my mind. It is
> driving me crazy sometimes.
>
> Yes, I have been working for companies before, as well as NGOs and
> political parties. Yet I have never had a conflict of personal
> interests like now, and I would just like to ask about your thoughts
> on this.
>
> How can I continue making videoblogs without being seen as simply
> doing cheap PR for my company? How can I mention my "day job" without
> feeling dirty? Is it just something wrong with me, or is this a
> general problem for people who suddenly find themselves working for
> The Evil Capitalists?
>
> I want to continue to videoblog, to be able to be silly, and make a
> vlog while drunk, or having another bad hair day, or when I complain
> about some political issue or whatever. This is, obviously, a very new
> situation for me, and I seriously have no idea how to handle it.
>
> I want to stay true to myself, while not compromising my employers. I
> want to be able to hold several roles and mix them but not mix them so
> much that it becomes ugly and cheap.
>
> Any thoughts on this?
>
> best regards,
>
> Raymond M. Kristiansen
> - can I still just be a videoblogger?
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>


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#6846 From: Michael Sullivan <sulleleven@...>
Date: Tue Mar 1, 2005 2:45 am
Subject: Re: Re: video logging has been Scobleized
sulleleven
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i guess you havent been Scobleized afterall :(



On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 02:12:33 -0000, Verdi <michael@...> wrote:
>
>
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg <jkinberg@g...>
> wrote:
> > people are probably linking directly to the video. Is that hosted on
> > archive.org?
> > -Josh
>
> No, it's on my server.
>
>
> >
> > On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 18:06:21 -0000, Verdi <michael@m...> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, maui@a... wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Verdi, I'm curious, have you seen a traffic spike as a result of the
> > > > link?  He's been known to drive a great deal of traffic to other
> > > > bloggers.
> > >
> > > So far I haven't seen his domain in my referal logs even once.  My
> > > traffic seems to be about the same it's been all week.
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
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#6847 From: ryanne hodson <ryanne.hodson@...>
Date: Tue Mar 1, 2005 3:00 am
Subject: Re: unmediated call for info on videoblogging digital still cameras
ryan_hodson
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> Kenyatta and I were just chatting about how psyched we were for the
> oh-so-soon day when 1000s of us have hard-drive based cameras and are
> able to regularly post video with ease into mefeedia, vimeo,
> medicinefilms, ANT, ourmedia, etc...

this gives me an idea.
a lot of us have several types of cameras
and have been upgrading every couple years for whatever reason
and soon, a bunch of us will just be using the Xacti type model
straight to disc deal.

i usually hang on to stuff forever
but i recently recieved a new digital still cam that takes video
and my old one is no longer of use to me
though it is extremely low quality point and shoot almost disposable digital cam
it does take little video clips and
could probably be used by someone else who can't afford to get a vid
cam or a swanky new still cam that takes vid.

i bet other people are in the same situation.
maybe even with analog hi-8s or older mini-dvs
aaron from the voiz still uses his analog hi-8
so i know it can be converted to dig and still look good.

maybe we need to start up a collection of old, but still good, usable
cams, dig and analog
to donate to people who want to start vlogging.
esp people in places far away and those who can't afford new ones

what say you?

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new videos daily:
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#6848 From: "Marc Adams" <k41d3n@...>
Date: Tue Mar 1, 2005 3:11 am
Subject: Re: unmediated call for info on videoblogging digital still cameras
k41d3n
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Yeah, I still use a Hi 8 myself.

My issue with the Xacti, or similar cameras, is how editable is the
video? Anytime I have a clip I want to import into FCP, I get a
framerate error.

Of course, I suspect this is mostly user error.

I like the idea of the xacti, but only if it will allow me to use
FCP......

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, ryanne hodson
<ryanne.hodson@g...> wrote:
> > Kenyatta and I were just chatting about how psyched we were for the
> > oh-so-soon day when 1000s of us have hard-drive based cameras and are
> > able to regularly post video with ease into mefeedia, vimeo,
> > medicinefilms, ANT, ourmedia, etc...
>
> this gives me an idea.
> a lot of us have several types of cameras
> and have been upgrading every couple years for whatever reason
> and soon, a bunch of us will just be using the Xacti type model
> straight to disc deal.
>
> i usually hang on to stuff forever
> but i recently recieved a new digital still cam that takes video
> and my old one is no longer of use to me
> though it is extremely low quality point and shoot almost disposable
digital cam
> it does take little video clips and
> could probably be used by someone else who can't afford to get a vid
> cam or a swanky new still cam that takes vid.
>
> i bet other people are in the same situation.
> maybe even with analog hi-8s or older mini-dvs
> aaron from the voiz still uses his analog hi-8
> so i know it can be converted to dig and still look good.
>
> maybe we need to start up a collection of old, but still good, usable
> cams, dig and analog
> to donate to people who want to start vlogging.
> esp people in places far away and those who can't afford new ones
>
> what say you?
>
> --
> we ARE the media.
>
> new videos daily:
> http://ryanedit.blogspot.com
>
> Get ANT: The first Video Aggregator
> http://www.antnottv.org
>
> RSS (subscribe to my blog):
> http://feeds.feedburner.com/RyannesVideoBlog
>
> What is RSS Ryan?
> http://news.yahoo.com/rss
>
> ~Ryan Hodson~
> Video Editor/Producer
> http://ryanedit.com

#6849 From: ryanne hodson <ryanne.hodson@...>
Date: Tue Mar 1, 2005 3:20 am
Subject: Re: Learner Seeking Advice
ryan_hodson
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what is your specific problem?
a bunch of us have had different bugs happen...


On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 07:59:05 -0000, thesameones <bichon@...> wrote:
>
>
> Some one mentioned having trouble downloading the CC Publisher.
> With Windows XP, I am having the same problem.  I wonder if that
> person or another will tell me how to solve this.



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#6850 From: ryanne hodson <ryanne.hodson@...>
Date: Tue Mar 1, 2005 3:27 am
Subject: Re: Re: And we are live! (Norwegian political videoblogging)
ryan_hodson
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you could run these feeds through mefeedia
and tag them.
have everyone sign in to mefeedia to check in.

soon ANT will have tagging as well.
and be on PCs.

so ANT and mefeedia are your best bets for keeping people up to date.



On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 04:47:57 +0100, R. Kristiansen <raymondmk@...> wrote:
>
> ONE last thing.
>
> Tagging and organizing of the micro-content will be totally important
> for us. Anyone who have any ideas on what software we could use in
> order to add tags to our videos - please email me. We need to get the
> videoblog site up and running by tuesday. The more we have ready
> before then the better.
>
> Raymond
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>


--
we ARE the media.

new videos daily:
http://ryanedit.blogspot.com

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http://www.antnottv.org

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#6851 From: Shannon Noble <shannon.sn@...>
Date: Tue Mar 1, 2005 3:39 am
Subject: Re: Re: And we are live! (Norwegian political videoblogging)
sh7nnon
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I like it!


On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 22:27:02 -0500, ryanne hodson
<ryanne.hodson@...> wrote:
>
> you could run these feeds through mefeedia
> and tag them.
> have everyone sign in to mefeedia to check in.
>
> soon ANT will have tagging as well.
> and be on PCs.
>
> so ANT and mefeedia are your best bets for keeping people up to date.
>
>
> On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 04:47:57 +0100, R. Kristiansen <raymondmk@...>
wrote:
> >
> > ONE last thing.
> >
> > Tagging and organizing of the micro-content will be totally important
> > for us. Anyone who have any ideas on what software we could use in
> > order to add tags to our videos - please email me. We need to get the
> > videoblog site up and running by tuesday. The more we have ready
> > before then the better.
> >
> > Raymond
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> we ARE the media.
>
> new videos daily:
> http://ryanedit.blogspot.com
>
> Get ANT: The first Video Aggregator
> http://www.antnottv.org
>
> RSS (subscribe to my blog):
> http://feeds.feedburner.com/RyannesVideoBlog
>
> What is RSS Ryan?
> http://news.yahoo.com/rss
>
> ~Ryan Hodson~
> Video Editor/Producer
> http://ryanedit.com
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

#6852 From: Michael Sullivan <sulleleven@...>
Date: Tue Mar 1, 2005 3:43 am
Subject: Re: Re: unmediated call for info on videoblogging digital still cameras
sulleleven
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I still have a fisher price pxl-2000 =)



On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 03:11:33 -0000, Marc Adams <k41d3n@...> wrote:
>
>
> Yeah, I still use a Hi 8 myself.
>
> My issue with the Xacti, or similar cameras, is how editable is the
> video? Anytime I have a clip I want to import into FCP, I get a
> framerate error.
>
> Of course, I suspect this is mostly user error.
>
> I like the idea of the xacti, but only if it will allow me to use
> FCP......
>
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, ryanne hodson
> <ryanne.hodson@g...> wrote:
> > > Kenyatta and I were just chatting about how psyched we were for the
> > > oh-so-soon day when 1000s of us have hard-drive based cameras and are
> > > able to regularly post video with ease into mefeedia, vimeo,
> > > medicinefilms, ANT, ourmedia, etc...
> >
> > this gives me an idea.
> > a lot of us have several types of cameras
> > and have been upgrading every couple years for whatever reason
> > and soon, a bunch of us will just be using the Xacti type model
> > straight to disc deal.
> >
> > i usually hang on to stuff forever
> > but i recently recieved a new digital still cam that takes video
> > and my old one is no longer of use to me
> > though it is extremely low quality point and shoot almost disposable
> digital cam
> > it does take little video clips and
> > could probably be used by someone else who can't afford to get a vid
> > cam or a swanky new still cam that takes vid.
> >
> > i bet other people are in the same situation.
> > maybe even with analog hi-8s or older mini-dvs
> > aaron from the voiz still uses his analog hi-8
> > so i know it can be converted to dig and still look good.
> >
> > maybe we need to start up a collection of old, but still good, usable
> > cams, dig and analog
> > to donate to people who want to start vlogging.
> > esp people in places far away and those who can't afford new ones
> >
> > what say you?
> >
> > --
> > we ARE the media.
> >
> > new videos daily:
> > http://ryanedit.blogspot.com
> >
> > Get ANT: The first Video Aggregator
> > http://www.antnottv.org
> >
> > RSS (subscribe to my blog):
> > http://feeds.feedburner.com/RyannesVideoBlog
> >
> > What is RSS Ryan?
> > http://news.yahoo.com/rss
> >
> > ~Ryan Hodson~
> > Video Editor/Producer
> > http://ryanedit.com
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>


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#6853 From: Lisa Harper <lisah2u@...>
Date: Tue Mar 1, 2005 3:49 am
Subject: Re: Re: unmediated call for info on videoblogging digital still cameras
lisah2u
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No problem with FCP, iMovie, LiveStage Pro or QT Pro. I don't know
about PCs... it's more fun to edit on the mac. But it still seems to
me that the real power of the xacti is when you don't want to do
anymore editing than trimming. Capture and post. Otherwise, you find
that you just have to re-compress... if you want sophisticated,
high-quality videos for lots of editing, maybe you want a miniDV.
Lisa
http://www.lisaharper.org


On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 03:11:33 -0000, Marc Adams <k41d3n@...> wrote:
>
>
> Yeah, I still use a Hi 8 myself.
>
> My issue with the Xacti, or similar cameras, is how editable is the
> video? Anytime I have a clip I want to import into FCP, I get a
> framerate error.
>
> Of course, I suspect this is mostly user error.
>
> I like the idea of the xacti, but only if it will allow me to use
> FCP......

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http://www.lisaharper.org

#6854 From: "Eli Chapman" <opensourcefood@...>
Date: Tue Mar 1, 2005 3:53 am
Subject: Re: unmediated call for info on videoblogging digital still cameras
opensourcefood
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ryanne hodson wrote:
> this gives me an idea...
> maybe we need to start up a collection of old, but still good,
usable
> cams, dig and analog
> to donate to people who want to start vlogging.
> esp people in places far away and those who can't afford new ones
>
> what say you?

I say hoo-freaking-yay!

We need:
1. The list of recommended cameras
2. The pool of donated cameras and a system for sharing them
3. An aggregated pool for $$$ donations for those that want to sponsor
a videoblogger and  help us buy used recommended cameras and share
them

Anything else?

  -eli

#6855 From: ryanne hodson <ryanne.hodson@...>
Date: Tue Mar 1, 2005 5:05 am
Subject: kid safe feed
ryan_hodson
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yo
i was so excited to see eric rice and aaron showing their kids ANT
and having them look at vids
now
every video i see that i think is a cool kids vid (animals, other
kids, colors, music, shapes etc)
i'm tagging as "kid safe" in mefeedia, you can too!!!

you can subscribe to this feed in ANT:
http://www.mefeedia.com/tags/kid%20safe/rss2.xml

please be courteous and only tag kid safe vids with this
and parents
please watch the vids that come through this feed
in case some jerk tags something "kid safe"
and it's really not.

hopefully this wont be a problem.

also i'm starting my own vlog with just stuff that is kid friendly.
i'm so inspired....
videos to come on:

videorodeo.blogspot.com
http://feeds.feedburner.com/TheVideorodeo

if you subscribe, it will kick my arse to post some fun stuff!
adults subscribe too, it will be a kinder, more colorful, non-swearing
ryanne, if you can believe that.

kids are funny, smart and oh so cute!!
esp eric and aarons.
wow.

--
we ARE the media.

new videos daily:
http://ryanedit.blogspot.com

Get ANT: The first Video Aggregator
http://www.antnottv.org

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#6856 From: Deirdre Straughan <deirdre.straughan@...>
Date: Tue Mar 1, 2005 6:37 am
Subject: Re: My disclosure/roles dilemma
deirdrebs2002
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You may recall that I "came out" to this group in January as a
corporate rep for TVBLOB (at present, a little-known Italian startup,
but just you wait! <grin>). I originally joined this group last June
to explore the concept of videoblogging - I figured these folks would
be some of the early adopters of our technology.

But my way of exploring things is to DO them, and, particularly in
this case, I never thought that I would just try it and then go away
again. So I'm as much a "real" videoblogger as anybody, and at the
same time I'm learning things for my company. I don't see a conflict
here. I get to do something fun that I love, and in a sense I even get
paid for it. I'm very lucky.

I have been living/working on the boundary between private and
professional for most of my professional life. My former job involved
representing my company in various online forums, for years. I have a
finicky code of personal ethics, and I never consciously lied to
anyone about anything the company was doing. I sometimes had to NOT
say things  - there are situations where, no matter how honest you
want to be, you are bound by law and business ethics to protect trade
secrets, adhere to non-disclosure agreements, etc. I do advise you to
be very, very careful and, when you're not sure, talk to someone in
the company about it; don't get yourself or your company in trouble by
shooting off your mouth.

In spite of popular "wisdom" to the contrary, is IS possible to be
ethical in business, to treat customers like human beings whose
opinions matter, to say what you do and do what you say - and make it
pay. This is new and scary territory to a lot of companies, but the
smart ones are catching on. The new trend towards open corporate
blogging is encouraging - companies are finally getting on the
Cluetrain. In this environment, you don't have to compromise between
business and ethics. Be your own ethical self and customers will love
you for it. The company may balk sometimes, but it's your job to
explain to them why the customer is in fact always right (almost) and
they need to listen. You're the conduit between compan and customer.
It can be an uncomfortable role, but it's also a critically important
one and, thank god, its importance is increasingly recognized these
days. You're just the right kind of person to do this job, and you'll
do just fine.

FWIW, the career section of my personal site has quite a bit of
material on what I did, and how, and how people reacted. You might
find some of it helpful, or at least funny.


best regards,
Deirdré Straughan

http://straughan.com (personal)

http://tvblob.com/ (company)


On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 01:15:18 +0100, R. Kristiansen <raymondmk@...> wrote:
>
> Dear videobloggers,
>
> I have seriously been feeling quite strange the last days. Today it
> became official that I have started working for a company that makes
> blogging software (www.blogsoft.net). It is a small Norwegian upstart,
> but we have a few important clients already and we are expanding. I am
> videoblogging responsible, and ever since I was offered this job - and
> I accepted - I have been having this nagging tickle in my mind. It is
> driving me crazy sometimes.
>
> Yes, I have been working for companies before, as well as NGOs and
> political parties. Yet I have never had a conflict of personal
> interests like now, and I would just like to ask about your thoughts
> on this.
>
> How can I continue making videoblogs without being seen as simply
> doing cheap PR for my company? How can I mention my "day job" without
> feeling dirty? Is it just something wrong with me, or is this a
> general problem for people who suddenly find themselves working for
> The Evil Capitalists?
>
> I want to continue to videoblog, to be able to be silly, and make a
> vlog while drunk, or having another bad hair day, or when I complain
> about some political issue or whatever. This is, obviously, a very new
> situation for me, and I seriously have no idea how to handle it.
>
> I want to stay true to myself, while not compromising my employers. I
> want to be able to hold several roles and mix them but not mix them so
> much that it becomes ugly and cheap.
>
> Any thoughts on this?
>
> best regards,
>
> Raymond M. Kristiansen
> - can I still just be a videoblogger?
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>


--
best regards,
Deirdré Straughan
www.straughan.com

#6857 From: Michael Meiser <groups-yahoo-com@...>
Date: Tue Mar 1, 2005 7:30 am
Subject: Re: Re: Boston City Councillor John Tobin: 3rd video up on his site
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First of all I love it Steve. I want to see more, more, more! I have a
feeling we'll all look back on this and realize how truly significant
these "firsts" are.

Warning, I write to mutch. If you even dare read this, you are brave
and I thank you.

A little perspective.  One day in the not to distant future I will
expect when I type any local politicians name into google that I will
find not only a website and a blog, but video clips which they have
created as a tool of communicating directly with their constituents. I
will expect to hear their voice, see there face, and hear them talk
about what they feel are the important points not what's framed by the
big media, or worse yet not even discussed publicly at all. This will
be an immediate and very human connection, more like a conversation on
a phone than the mediated world we are use too.

I believe that this expectation is something I can latch onto. It is
very real, tangible, and will have tremendous political ramifications.
Personally empowering and democratizing ramifications. With them will
come the expectation that I can send an email, blog about, or make a
phone call and expect that my questions and concerns are address and
not lost on the wind.

This is the same sort of expectation that is rapidly evolving that when
I google a local band's name I can expect to find not only their
website but at least one or two songs from their latest album. That if
I punch in a videographer's name, I'll be able to find their
promotional reel.  I can expect that if I contact them, speak about
them, play their song, or podcast their video in a blog, video blog or
podcast, that I will get an honest response if only a thank you.  These
expectations will slowly shift into the more conservative area of
politics.

I can see right now and am inspired by the fact that I can connect with
people in this way already, right now, though I never thought I would.
That I might within only a few weeks of discovering some artist, some
vlogger, or some creators of a piece of software that rocks my
previously heavily mediated world... I would be having a lively
conversation with them directly.

Just months ago I would have asked myself why the author of a book like
the Anarchist in The library, and NYU professor would bother to
initiate a conversation with me regarding a post on my blog.  Why a
venture capitalist with 10's of millions of dollars in investment would
respond to my blog post with an email, and I wouldn't have bothered to
write an email to the creator of site like KongisKing suggesting they
enable a RSS video cast feed, because I wouldn't have thought there was
a chance of getting a response. (I've gotten no response yet. ;)

These connections I haven't yet grasped, they shock me or at the least
pleasantly surprise me, but nevertheless they're changing my
perspectives and my expectations one at a time.  What we're going
through is an awakening of the spirit of the masses from a world that
was once dominated by centralized broadcast media, to a media world
where each may realize their value and place in proportion to the
whole. From... a world where only a very few "professionals" had access
and even then only very limited access. From... a world where an actor
or actress might expect backlash if they voiced a political concern
because it was outside of their "profession"... from a world where a
news correspondent who dared use their privilege to reveal a bias might
be fired... to a world where an 34 year old guy with no professional
political experience can write the most influential political blog in
the nation (DailyKos).

Martin Luther King use to talk about going and preaching on the
mountain. I like to think of that as a metaphor for daring to speak
one's mind at the top of one's lungs for all to here. The difference is
now, we all have an opportunity to be heard, and and opportunity to
hear the whispering responses in the wind.

These are profound changes in our media, with pro-found ramifications
which I'll leave you to ponder as I'm been more than long winded
enough.  I will say that I've see time and again, that though we
usually completely misunderstand the outcome.  The outcome is often way
more profound than we anticipated. Just look at the Tech Boom. We had
people running around the revolution is at hand. Then we had people
saying the show is over folks, it's all hype. And now we're doing
things more amazing than we'd ever anticipated before 2001, things we
never expected, what people are calling the real boom, the "tech
bloom".

As I like to say "The future is here, it's NOTHING that we expected and
yet it's SO MUCH MORE."

BTW, on a side note a friend contacted me today. I'd railed him about
starting a video blog, and today he contacted me about setting up a
weekly video-podcast for his pastor's sermons.  A possible first
video-god cast?  Do we have any contenders? Let the race begin for the
first video-casting preacher! :)

> It will take time for politicians to find the right style to fit this
> medium, and even then there are many political people who will never
> feel confortable in front of a camera in the same way that most
> scientists do not ooze charisma on stage like rockstars do.
>
> For example some party political broadcasts by the smaller parties in
> the UK do more harm than good to the parties, because their lack
> of "media training" and unease in front of camera makes them look
> shifty in a sweaty Nixon sort of way.

First, is anyone still reading?

I think perceptions are going to change regarding the "professional
aesthetic" as mass amatuerization of media occurs.  We may even reach a
point where "slick" professionalism receives backlash, certainly we'll
reach a state of backlash against video bloggers, and the video
blogging aesthetic because like blogging we're moving so fast. But,
we'll win them over. :)

These concepts of value of production will change. I've been following
video blogging for only a couple moths and it's completely changed my
expectations and the value I placed on so called professional aesthetic
in production values.  It's very similar to the debate going on over
non-bias / objectivity in traditional media vs. the point-of-view of
bloggers. They're different, but neither is better than the other. As
it turns out the real value may not in objectivity but in trust,
thoroughness, accuracy, and transparency.*

*http://dangillmor.typepad.com/dan_gillmor_on_grassroots/2005/01/
the_end_of_obje.html

With this massive slow shift to democratize media will come shifts in
other areas of culture happening simultaneously with politics.  What
I'm speaking about is basic literacy. I used to think of one of the
most important and undervalue aspects of design as understanding
"visual literacy" and "cultural literacy". You have to understand the
"visual language" of a culture. There is fashion in visual language,
but there is also a tremendous amount of symbolism, an ever evolving
language. As a designer part of my job was to learn what kind of
typography, symbols, shapes, colors and other elements of visual
language were used in the industry / culture / market  I talking to or
about. For example a law firm would have a completely different set of
visual queues than say PBS. Both would have a set of highly developed
visual languages. Some people simply call this context, some rituals,
but it's more than that, it's a language and wether conscious or not we
participate in this linguistics.

The point is that learning the language of moving images, or of audio
broadcasting is just the same as reading and writing. I like to call it
"media literacy". There is a linguistics involved and it takes a long
time for people to become comfortable with and fluent in speaking in
the language of these new mediums. Nixon's refusal of makeup in his
televised presidential debate is a perfect example of this
misunderstanding or underestimating of the language of moving images.
Here we are at least 50 years into the broadcast media age and the news
commentary following the Kerry / Bush debate was more obsessed than
ever with the subtleties of this visual language. Not the content, but
who "looked" better, or carried themselves better. They were more
obsessed with appearances and perceptions than content. They were
obsessed with a visual language that we have not fully become
comfortable with.  Once everyone gets used to seeing themselves on film
and putting themselves on film these perceptions will change and our
understanding and ability to talk about this visual language will
almost certainly elevate the political debate or at least shift it back
to more important things.

It will take a long time before the masses to become comfortable with
using audio and video as tools of conversation to engage directly in
this mass cultural debate. I'm impressed with the speed with which this
early adoption in blogging, audio podcasting, and now video podcasting
is happening, it seems like the speed of light, perhaps it'll be merely
a "speed bump". But a speed bump in history might be a "generation gap"
of 10 or 20 years, and that would still be most most impressive. Let's
remember that the number of blogs, even though it might be 4.1 million
is only a tiny, tiny fraction of the population of the world, of the
US, or even of those having access to tools that would let them blog,
free tools I might ad. Only 21% of the online population even reads
blogs yet, let alone have been comfortable enough to read blogs.** It's
going to take a long time before the masses are comfortable enough to
utilize these new media fluently.

** Stats from: http://www.itconversations.com/shows/detail313.html

This larger cultural change where people not only gain access to these
new rich-media / broadcast media but also become comfortable with
utilizing it as a tool of mass conversation may take 10, 50 or even 100
years before it reaches it's full potential.  But I think some of the
potentials we'll be able to see very quickly. By the time 2008 roles
around video logs may be a completely ubiquitous tool. The norm among
politicians on all levels if not from the state level on up.

Politicians will definitely be skeptical after citing items such as
Howard Dean's scream or Trent Lott's scandal, but these things will not
slow their embrace of videoblogging. Not only will politicians learn
rapidly from such mistakes, but they will realize that the value of
their being able to connect to their constituents directly with their
own message may actually the antidote, if not the one thing they can do
to mitigate instances of snafu's with big media... a test bed for them
to find out what the hot spots are, a chance for them to get feedback
and learn how to speak the language of these mediums before being
thrust in front of the harsh lights of mainstream media.

Anyway, that's my opinion, my dream and hopefully there's some value to
it for you all.

-Mike

Michael Meiser
http://mmeiser.com/blog - fun stuff
http://mmeiser.com/backchannel - serious lunacy stuff

On Feb 25, 2005, at 10:00 PM, Steve Watkins wrote:



--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "R. Kristiansen"
<raymondmk@g...> wrote:
Ok, I will quit the propaganda. The point is: Videoblogging
> is the Perfect tool for organizations like political parties, and I
am
> shocked by how much resistance some people might have against it.
>
> Does Tobin
> ALWAYS need to wear a tie? Vlog him at home with his family, or
> interview him while in the car. Let him talk about what Drives him.
> For now, the prep talks just come across Too much like wannabe-msm.
> Rehearsed talks for people used to this kind of talk.

The very fact that videoblogs can be a perfect tool for politicians
is a primary reason why I cannot bring myself to believe that
videoblogs will definately change politics in the way I think people
like Ryanne hope.

It will take time for politicians to find the right style to fit this
medium, and even then there are many political people who will never
feel confortable in front of a camera in the same way that most
scientists do not ooze charisma on stage like rockstars do.

For example some party political broadcasts by the smaller parties in
the UK do more harm than good to the parties, because their lack
of "media training" and unease in front of camera makes them look
shifty in a sweaty Nixon sort of way.

Politicians behave and present themselves the way they do for a whole
multitude of reasons. Just as with policy decisions when they reach
power, even the powerful do not have much free power of their own,
because they have all these constraints placed on them by the
percieved realities of the day, all the powerful people who will lean
on them etc.

What Im trying to get at is that videoblogs do not free traditional
politicians from any of the current constraints on what policies they
talk about? A change in style but not substance can still be useful
if it reconnects more people to politics, but cries of hope for a
political revolution seem overoptimistic if were really just talking
about a new style/presentation of the same old political realities.

I am not poo-pooing the concept by any means, just trying not to get
carried away with expectations. Videoblogging doesnt remove any of
the existing "influential powers" that shape political decisions and
presentation. What it can do is expand knowledge, spread information.
It can empower people by making their voices heard.

So I wonder how much of the real political change will come from
traditional politicians using videoblogs, as opposed to non-
politicians expressing their views on videoblogs and blogs, and maybe
even some new kind of videoblog politician that is truly born of the
media rather than being restrained by belonging to traditional
political parties?

Does the fact that Raymonds party is a Youth party have benefits in
how much you can really benefit from videoblogs because perhaps there
is a bit more freedom to experiment with both style and substance?

As an individual I have more freedom of expression than if I were
videoblogging in a political party? And if I were up for election I
could say even less, and if I were in office even less, with every
increase of power comes an increase in vocal responsiblity that can
only lead to a continuation of phenomenon that turn people off
politics because the politicians are "on message"!?!

Im hoping to be totally wrong. One of the problems I have today is
that I see quite a few "characters" in the older generation of
politicians, people who arent afraid to go off-message and stick to
their principals, but they seem to be a dying breed. Im less
impressed with newer generations, not just politicians, nearly all my
heros are dead now lol. If I have a hope for videoblogging and the
net in general, its that it continues to live up to its potential and
becomes the means that newer generations assert themselves and break
out of the plastic blandified corporotosphere, let the peoples soul
shine through!

Oops sorry for the waffle, and my comments arent specifically
directed at the examples of political videoblogs so far, I comment
these pioneering steps, just dont want to underestimate the length of
the path to change, and all the things that wont change along the way.

Cheers

Steve of Elbows

#6858 From: Lisa Salem <slaalem_likewise@...>
Date: Tue Mar 1, 2005 7:42 am
Subject: Re: Re: unmediated call for info on videoblogging digital still cameras
slaalem
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I haven't introduced myself to the group yet. I will
soon  though but not quite ready with my vid. But was
inspired by Michaels posting to share that 2 weeks ago
I went to a whole pxlvision film festival in Venice,
Ca. Some cool stuff and some laborious. One amazingly
poignant doc about peace and Bush and the war made
mostly from pxlvision camera recordings of war footage
straight off the tv. It was so effective because it
had the perfect combination of weighty tone with
innocent, uncynical recording medium. In fact, far
more effective than something that was more 'mature'
or sophisticated. The message itself was more direct
and streamlined because of the format and process and
tools used. And as a viewer it opened me up more to
the message because of it's lack of
self-consciousness.  Took some of that revelation on
for myself and bookmarked it for how to use vlog
technology.

Cheers,
Lisa Salem
aka Slaalem: Likewise!
--- Michael Sullivan <sulleleven@...> wrote:


---------------------------------
I still have a fisher price pxl-2000 =)



On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 03:11:33 -0000, Marc Adams
<k41d3n@...> wrote:
>
>
> Yeah, I still use a Hi 8 myself.
>
> My issue with the Xacti, or similar cameras, is how
editable is the
> video? Anytime I have a clip I want to import into
FCP, I get a
> framerate error.
>
> Of course, I suspect this is mostly user error.
>
> I like the idea of the xacti, but only if it will
allow me to use
> FCP......
>
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, ryanne hodson
> <ryanne.hodson@g...> wrote:
> > > Kenyatta and I were just chatting about how
psyched we were for the
> > > oh-so-soon day when 1000s of us have hard-drive
based cameras and are
> > > able to regularly post video with ease into
mefeedia, vimeo,
> > > medicinefilms, ANT, ourmedia, etc...
> >
> > this gives me an idea.
> > a lot of us have several types of cameras
> > and have been upgrading every couple years for
whatever reason
> > and soon, a bunch of us will just be using the
Xacti type model
> > straight to disc deal.
> >
> > i usually hang on to stuff forever
> > but i recently recieved a new digital still cam
that takes video
> > and my old one is no longer of use to me
> > though it is extremely low quality point and shoot
almost disposable
> digital cam
> > it does take little video clips and
> > could probably be used by someone else who can't
afford to get a vid
> > cam or a swanky new still cam that takes vid.
> >
> > i bet other people are in the same situation.
> > maybe even with analog hi-8s or older mini-dvs
> > aaron from the voiz still uses his analog hi-8
> > so i know it can be converted to dig and still
look good.
> >
> > maybe we need to start up a collection of old, but
still good, usable
> > cams, dig and analog
> > to donate to people who want to start vlogging.
> > esp people in places far away and those who can't
afford new ones
> >
> > what say you?
> >
> > --
> > we ARE the media.
> >
> > new videos daily:
> > http://ryanedit.blogspot.com
> >
> > Get ANT: The first Video Aggregator
> > http://www.antnottv.org
> >
> > RSS (subscribe to my blog):
> > http://feeds.feedburner.com/RyannesVideoBlog
> >
> > What is RSS Ryan?
> > http://news.yahoo.com/rss
> >
> > ~Ryan Hodson~
> > Video Editor/Producer
> > http://ryanedit.com
>
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#6859 From: Michael Meiser <groups-yahoo-com@...>
Date: Tue Mar 1, 2005 7:51 am
Subject: Re: Re: Boston City Councillor John Tobin: 3rd video up on his site
mmeiser8
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Nepal! I want to see that! Do let us know!

> Example: Prakash, my friend from Nepal, just received his videocamera.
> If he can videoblog without getting put in prison; SHOWING us how
> things are Currently in Nepal, we can quote that, and I WILL be
> confronting our ministry of foreign affairs on some issues.

On Feb 25, 2005, at 10:30 PM, R. Kristiansen wrote:


I will reply Steve Watkins points one by one, from my Personal point of
view.


On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 03:00:08 -0000, Steve Watkins <steve@...>
wrote:
> The very fact that videoblogs can be a perfect tool for politicians
> is a primary reason why I cannot bring myself to believe that
> videoblogs will definately change politics in the way I think people
> like Ryanne hope.

I will at least do all _I_ can to ensure that videoblogging will not
just be a good tool for the politicians, but for the rest of the
population as well. *Gasp* Yes, politicians are people too ;)

>
> It will take time for politicians to find the right style to fit this
> medium, and even then there are many political people who will never
> feel confortable in front of a camera in the same way that most
> scientists do not ooze charisma on stage like rockstars do.

Political videoblogging can in fact be Anything but talking heads. The
medium is in its infancy. I will experiment with it, just as I have
done with my own personal video blog in the past.

> For example some party political broadcasts by the smaller parties in
> the UK do more harm than good to the parties, because their lack
> of "media training" and unease in front of camera makes them look
> shifty in a sweaty Nixon sort of way.

Good point. This is why I have been working with introducing blogging
in our youth party since october, and prepared for videoblogging since
just a few days after I first figured out about videoblogging just
before last christmas.

> Politicians behave and present themselves the way they do for a whole
> multitude of reasons. Just as with policy decisions when they reach
> power, even the powerful do not have much free power of their own,
> because they have all these constraints placed on them by the
> percieved realities of the day, all the powerful people who will lean
> on them etc.

Again, good point. It will be interesting to see how we can hack that.
At the "politicalvideoblogging" category of my blog, I will be
covering among others this question as this spring proceeds.
http://dltq.blogs.com/dltq/politicalvideoblogging/index.html

> What Im trying to get at is that videoblogs do not free traditional
> politicians from any of the current constraints on what policies they
> talk about?

No, but videoblogging DOES free time. I will give loads of examples of
this later on - by Showing it, not just talking about it.

> A change in style but not substance can still be useful
> if it reconnects more people to politics, but cries of hope for a
> political revolution seem overoptimistic if were really just talking
> about a new style/presentation of the same old political realities.

I aim for the stars, and it is ok if we just land on the moon this
time around :)

>
> Does the fact that Raymonds party is a Youth party have benefits in
> how much you can really benefit from videoblogs because perhaps there
> is a bit more freedom to experiment with both style and substance?

Certainly!! Our mother party, where our ministers are Norway's
minister of Justice, minister of Communication and minister of
Agriculture and food, will have a lot more difficulties dealing with
this medium. That is why we need John Tobin and Steve Garfield. That
is why I personally am sure that it will work out. Maybe not as fast
as we hope, but I will be pleased with even just a bit of added
transparency in our civil society.

>
> As an individual I have more freedom of expression than if I were
> videoblogging in a political party? And if I were up for election I
> could say even less, and if I were in office even less, with every
> increase of power comes an increase in vocal responsiblity that can
> only lead to a continuation of phenomenon that turn people off
> politics because the politicians are "on message"!?!

huh? The whole world is slowly becoming more open, Steve! Look at
Microsoft's Channel 9! Would you even dream about that kind of
openness 9 years ago? I am sure I wouldnt!

General Motors are blogging. Boeing are. Wikis are hitting the big
bang soon. Social software like del.icio.us will open up things even
further. We will Still have hierarchies of information and power, but
things Are unrooted.

The kind of pessimism about media that is so darned popular is
something I disagree with. Let's be frigging positive and see the
challenges as a good thing! We can do this. There is no God, there is
no big puppetmaster controlling the whole world (not even Bush has
that role), and there are way more opportunities now for improving
this fragile little world than ever through effective communication.

Example: Prakash, my friend from Nepal, just received his videocamera.
If he can videoblog without getting put in prison; SHOWING us how
things are Currently in Nepal, we can quote that, and I WILL be
confronting our ministry of foreign affairs on some issues.

> Im hoping to be totally wrong. <snip> let the peoples soul
> shine through!

Souls will shine. I will do whatever I can to prove you wrong. If you
are not wrong, we still can work at breaking those walls that
suffocate us as a society.

Raymond



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