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#13039 From: David Sanson <dsanson@...>
Date: Mon Jan 9, 2012 2:02 am
Subject: Re: How to set two MacVim fullscreen modes using vim command?
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I don't think this is possible. Take a look at

     :h macvim-prefs

and

     :h macvim-user-defaults

The relevant dictionary key is "MMNativeFullScreen".

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#13040 From: Zhao Cai <zhaocai@...>
Date: Mon Jan 9, 2012 2:46 am
Subject: Re: How to set two MacVim fullscreen modes using vim command?
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Why is it not possible? You can control it from the preferences panel. Why cannot you control it from a command? Even if it is not implemented yet. I think it would be considerably doable.

On Jan 8, 2012, at 9:02 PM, David Sanson wrote:

I don't think this is possible. Take a look at

     :h macvim-prefs

and

     :h macvim-user-defaults

The relevant dictionary key is "MMNativeFullScreen".

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#13041 From: Eric Weir <eeweir@...>
Date: Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:43 am
Subject: Recovering an older vimrc from backup
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I'd like to use Time Machine to retrieve an older .vimrc, but I don't see any way to get Finder to show dot files. Is there a way?

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#13042 From: Frank Hellenkamp <jonas@...>
Date: Tue Jan 10, 2012 10:42 am
Subject: Re: Recovering an older vimrc from backup
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Hi,

> I'd like to use Time Machine to retrieve an older .vimrc, but I don't see any
way to get Finder to show dot files. Is there a way?

Yes there is - you can use "tmutil" from the command line:

tmutil restore -v /Volumes/path-to-timemachine-backup/Users/username/.vimrc
~/vimrc

whereas "path-to-timemachine-backup" is the whole path including the date you
want to restore from.

The syntax of the "tmutil restore" follows the cp-command, so you can add a
couple of source files and restore it to the last parameter, which is the
target.

I hope this helps.


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#13043 From: Frank Hellenkamp <jonas@...>
Date: Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:04 pm
Subject: Re: Recovering an older vimrc from backup
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Hi Eric,

*ah*
And I forgot something...

>> I'd like to use Time Machine to retrieve an older .vimrc, but I don't see any
way to get Finder to show dot files. Is there a way?
>
> Yes there is - you can use "tmutil" from the command line:
>
> tmutil restore -v /Volumes/path-to-timemachine-backup/Users/username/.vimrc
~/vimrc

DON'T just copy the files with "cp", because then the extended-attributes that
timemachine uses will be copied along so you won't be able to edit these files
without removing these attributes and permissions first.


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#13044 From: Bee <beeyawned@...>
Date: Thu Jan 12, 2012 7:20 pm
Subject: Re: gui highlight in .vimrc fails
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On Jan 8, 8:07 am, björn <bjorn.winck...@...> wrote:
> On 8 January 2012 00:00, Bee wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > I have found a 'problem' with the highlight command in MacVim.
> > MacVim snapshot 53 -- osx 10.4.11
> > MacVim snapshot 60 -- osx 10.6.8
>
> > Neither one respects a gui highlight in .vimrc such as:
>
> > highlight Visual NONE ctermbg=Yellow ctermfg=Blue cterm=Bold
> > guibg=Yellow guifg=Blue gui=Bold
>
> > The same .vimrc works on MacOS with MacPorts gui vim-app 7.3.353 !
> > The same .vimrc works on WinXP with gvim 7.3.386 !
> > The same .vimrc works on Linux with gvim 7.3.372 !
>
> > Since I do not have Lion, and will not any time soon, I can not test
> > more a recent snapshot.
>
> > ** Will this be or has this been changed or fixed? **
>
> > I have added the gui highlight commands to .gvimrc and they work.
>
> > It is just more convenient for them to be in the same highlight
> > command.
>
> You should be able to work around this issue by adding the line
>
> let colors_name = "mine"
>
> to your ~/.vimrc file (substitute "mine" for whatever you like).
>
> The reason why you have to do this is that if colors_name is not set
> MacVim assumes the color scheme hasn't been modified and sets its own
> custom color scheme.
>
> Björn


Hello Bjorn

I found a simple solution that works well for me.
I would like to request the feature added to MacVim.

I added a conditional to your $VIM/gvimrc

if !exists('default_colors')
   if !exists("colors_name")
     " Use the macvim color scheme by default
     colorscheme macvim
   endif
endif

And I added this line to my ~/.vimrc

let default_colors=1

Now MacVim does NOT clobber any of my settings,
BUT it will default to your setting!

Bill Muench
Santa Cruz, California

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#13045 From: björn <bjorn.winckler@...>
Date: Fri Jan 13, 2012 7:10 am
Subject: Re: gui highlight in .vimrc fails
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On 12 January 2012 20:20, Bee wrote:
>
> I found a simple solution that works well for me.
> I would like to request the feature added to MacVim.
>
> I added a conditional to your $VIM/gvimrc
>
> if !exists('default_colors')
>  if !exists("colors_name")
>    " Use the macvim color scheme by default
>    colorscheme macvim
>  endif
> endif
>
> And I added this line to my ~/.vimrc
>
> let default_colors=1
>
> Now MacVim does NOT clobber any of my settings,
> BUT it will default to your setting!

That sounds like a reasonable solution.  I have pushed a patch which
will skip loading the macvim color scheme if you add the line

         let macvim_skip_colorscheme=1

to your ~/.vimrc (note that it will NOT work if you put that in your ~/.gvimrc).

Thanks for the suggestion,
Björn

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#13046 From: Pitt Mak <skeleton.mak.jr@...>
Date: Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:45 am
Subject: MMVimView's tab implements!
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Dear Björn,

I have a quetion about MMVimView's implementation.

Does the content(Text Rendering Area, of course if must be a NSView or it's subclass) of every tabview in MMVimView share the same NSTextView(NSView)?


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#13047 From: Bee <beeyawned@...>
Date: Sat Jan 14, 2012 5:01 am
Subject: Re: gui highlight in .vimrc fails
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On Jan 12, 11:10 pm, björn <bjorn.winck...@...> wrote:
> On 12 January 2012 20:20, Bee wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > I found a simple solution that works well for me.
> > I would like to request the feature added to MacVim.
>
> > I added a conditional to your $VIM/gvimrc
>
> > if !exists('default_colors')
> >  if !exists("colors_name")
> >    " Use the macvim color scheme by default
> >    colorscheme macvim
> >  endif
> > endif
>
> > And I added this line to my ~/.vimrc
>
> > let default_colors=1
>
> > Now MacVim does NOT clobber any of my settings,
> > BUT it will default to your setting!
>
> That sounds like a reasonable solution.  I have pushed a patch which
> will skip loading the macvim color scheme if you add the line
>
>         let macvim_skip_colorscheme=1
>
> to your ~/.vimrc (note that it will NOT work if you put that in your
~/.gvimrc).
>
> Thanks for the suggestion,
> Björn

Thank you Björn.

I have added
let macvim_skip_colorscheme=1
to the .vimrc
I am now ready for the next snapshot.

Will there be any new snapshots for osx 10.6.8 Snow Leopard?

If not, I have edited your gvimrc to add the conditional and it works
fine.

Bill

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#13048 From: busticated <itsbusticated@...>
Date: Wed Jan 18, 2012 2:32 am
Subject: How to launch mvim from command line without any error output?
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Hi there -
      Wondering if there's a way to launch mvim from terminal without
it outputting errors / warnings and without it locking the process?
I'm not sure I have the terms right here so bear with me... basically,
when I do:

mvim /path/to/my/file

... from terminal, MacVim launches with my target file open... I see
some error / warning msgs in my terminal... and before I can continue
using terminal, I need to ctrl+c out.

Error output is fairly benign:

Invalid gemspec in [/usr/local/Cellar/ruby/1.9.3-p0/lib/ruby/gems/
1.9.1/specifications/heroku-2.8.4.gemspec]: invalid date format in
specification: "2011-09-23 00:00:00.000000000Z"
NERDTree: 3 invalid bookmarks were read. See :help
NERDTreeInvalidBookmarks for info.

Thanks in advance!
-matt

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#13049 From: Giovanni Lanzani <gglanzani@...>
Date: Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:46 am
Subject: Re: How to launch mvim from command line without any error output?
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Well, I'd say that if you fix the errors you should be able to start mvim without errors :) I don't know about the gemspec's one, but for the NerdTree, try looking into .NERDTreeBookmarks to see if something is wrong.

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#13050 From: busticated <itsbusticated@...>
Date: Wed Jan 18, 2012 5:42 pm
Subject: Re: How to launch mvim from command line without any error output?
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right... but even without errors, i'll still have to do the ctrl+c
thing to break out of whatever is locking up terminal

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#13051 From: Chris Lott <chris@...>
Date: Wed Jan 18, 2012 6:40 pm
Subject: Re: How to launch mvim from command line without any error output?
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On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 8:42 AM, busticated <itsbusticated@...> wrote:
> right... but even without errors, i'll still have to do the ctrl+c
> thing to break out of whatever is locking up terminal

Without the errors, mvim shouldn't lock up the terminal. At least it
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#13052 From: Stanislaw Pusep <creaktive@...>
Date: Wed Jan 18, 2012 7:20 pm
Subject: MacVim + SuperTab + Perl source = VERY slow
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Hi everyone!
The subject says everything, a few remarks:

1) It's NOT a SuperTab fault; Ctrl-N/Ctrl-P is slow also! However, it's easier for me to refer to the whole concept of "tab completion";
2) I use MacVim from MacPorts;
4) Text-mode vim (also from MacPorts) is fast, so it's not filesystem/libs/modules related;
5) If I start typing some local variable name and then hit tab, MacVim hangs for some seconds and then the variable name appears;
6) However, if I hit tab followed by Ctrl-C, variable name completes instantly;
7) Non-Perl (SQL, for instance) source completion is fast.

Any clues on how to debug this?
Thanks in advance!

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#13053 From: Alex Lovell-Troy <farmking@...>
Date: Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:21 am
Subject: Re: MacVim - Snapshot 64
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After some gentle prodding, I noticed that I need to build the Snow Leopard version of MacVim for general consumption.

Sorry for the delay guys and here you go!


-alex

On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 5:45 PM, björn <bjorn.winckler@...> wrote:
Hi,

I have uploaded a new snapshot of MacVim -- the ChangeLog is at [1].
(Note that I am only building snapshots for OS X Lion these days.)

This snapshot contains a fix to a bug which would cause Vim to crash
when closing splits, so if you've been experiencing crashes lately I'd
suggest you update.

Björn

[1] https://github.com/b4winckler/macvim/wiki/ChangeLog

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#13054 From: björn <bjorn.winckler@...>
Date: Thu Jan 19, 2012 3:13 pm
Subject: Re: MacVim - Snapshot 64
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On 19 January 2012 10:21, Alex Lovell-Troy wrote:
> After some gentle prodding, I noticed that I need to build the Snow Leopard
> version of MacVim for general consumption.
>
> Sorry for the delay guys and here you go!
>
> https://github.com/alexlovelltroy/macvim/downloads

Thanks to Alex for making his build available.

I'd appreciate if some of you with Snow Leopard can try this out and
let me know that it works, since this is the first build Alex has
made.  Once I get some confirmations I'll update the Google code page
and tweet about it etc.

Björn

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#13055 From: Cássio Marques <cassiommc@...>
Date: Thu Jan 19, 2012 3:15 pm
Subject: Re: MacVim - Snapshot 64
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I have been using this build the whole morning without issues until now. I'll report back if I find any problems.

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On Thursday, January 19, 2012 at 1:13 PM, björn wrote:

On 19 January 2012 10:21, Alex Lovell-Troy wrote:
After some gentle prodding, I noticed that I need to build the Snow Leopard
version of MacVim for general consumption.

Sorry for the delay guys and here you go!


Thanks to Alex for making his build available.

I'd appreciate if some of you with Snow Leopard can try this out and
let me know that it works, since this is the first build Alex has
made. Once I get some confirmations I'll update the Google code page
and tweet about it etc.

Björn

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#13056 From: David Sanson <dsanson@...>
Date: Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:07 pm
Subject: switching between windows in different spaces with the keyboard
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I suspect this is impossible, given that it seems to be an issue with Lion's implementation of spaces rather than anything specific to MacVim. But it sure would be nice to able to use the keyboard to cycle to MacVim windows in other spaces, including those in their own native full-screen space. Has anyone figured out a way of doing this?

With the mouse, a simple click on the dock icon cycles through all the windows in the all the spaces. But I don't know of any way to emulate this with the keyboard, and the Dock doesn't show up in full-screen mode. A bit more cumbersome, but keyboard only, is to use the shortcut for the "Application Windows" view in Mission Control (by default, assigned to F10, I think). From there, one can arrow around between open windows and recently opened documents. But this doesn't work in full-screen mode either.

Funny, but I think this is going to be the issue that leads me to disable the native full-screen support in MacVim.

-David

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#13057 From: björn <bjorn.winckler@...>
Date: Thu Jan 19, 2012 5:37 pm
Subject: Re: switching between windows in different spaces with the keyboard
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On 19 January 2012 17:07, David Sanson wrote:
> I suspect this is impossible, given that it seems to be an issue with Lion's
> implementation of spaces rather than anything specific to MacVim. But it
> sure would be nice to able to use the keyboard to cycle to MacVim windows in
> other spaces, including those in their own native full-screen space. Has
> anyone figured out a way of doing this?
>
> With the mouse, a simple click on the dock icon cycles through all the
> windows in the all the spaces. But I don't know of any way to emulate this
> with the keyboard, and the Dock doesn't show up in full-screen mode. A bit
> more cumbersome, but keyboard only, is to use the shortcut for the
> "Application Windows" view in Mission Control (by default, assigned to F10,
> I think). From there, one can arrow around between open windows and recently
> opened documents. But this doesn't work in full-screen mode either.

I had a look at this and it turns out that it sort of already works to
cycle through windows in native full-screen.  The catch is that it
only works if you cycle to another window once before entering
full-screen.

It almost seems like a bug in Lion: if I enter and immediately exit
full-screen, then it is no longer possible to cycle to another window
(even though I'm out of full-screen).  If I click on another (MacVim-)
window when the current window is in this state, then I can cycle back
and everything works (even in full-screen).

I've tried to work around this bug by setting
NSWindowCollectionBehaviorParticipatesInCycle at various places in the
code, but no luck so far.  Not really sure what to do about it, but it
seems that some hack is in order to get this working.

I'll let this rest and ask that somebody else takes a look at it.

Björn

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#13058 From: "Xiao G. Wu" <xiaogwu@...>
Date: Thu Jan 19, 2012 5:41 pm
Subject: Re: switching between windows in different spaces with the keyboard
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It would be really nice if we could implement it like how the Mac terminal App works. Command-`

On Jan 19, 2012 9:37 AM, "björn" <bjorn.winckler@...> wrote:
On 19 January 2012 17:07, David Sanson wrote:
> I suspect this is impossible, given that it seems to be an issue with Lion's
> implementation of spaces rather than anything specific to MacVim. But it
> sure would be nice to able to use the keyboard to cycle to MacVim windows in
> other spaces, including those in their own native full-screen space. Has
> anyone figured out a way of doing this?
>
> With the mouse, a simple click on the dock icon cycles through all the
> windows in the all the spaces. But I don't know of any way to emulate this
> with the keyboard, and the Dock doesn't show up in full-screen mode. A bit
> more cumbersome, but keyboard only, is to use the shortcut for the
> "Application Windows" view in Mission Control (by default, assigned to F10,
> I think). From there, one can arrow around between open windows and recently
> opened documents. But this doesn't work in full-screen mode either.

I had a look at this and it turns out that it sort of already works to
cycle through windows in native full-screen.  The catch is that it
only works if you cycle to another window once before entering
full-screen.

It almost seems like a bug in Lion: if I enter and immediately exit
full-screen, then it is no longer possible to cycle to another window
(even though I'm out of full-screen).  If I click on another (MacVim-)
window when the current window is in this state, then I can cycle back
and everything works (even in full-screen).

I've tried to work around this bug by setting
NSWindowCollectionBehaviorParticipatesInCycle at various places in the
code, but no luck so far.  Not really sure what to do about it, but it
seems that some hack is in order to get this working.

I'll let this rest and ask that somebody else takes a look at it.

Björn

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#13059 From: "George V. Reilly" <george@...>
Date: Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:06 pm
Subject: Re: Caught deadly signal in Mac Vim
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On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 8:27 AM, Phil Dobbin <phildobbin@...> wrote:
> On 19/1/12 15:59, "Charles Campbell" <Charles.E.Campbell@...> wrote:
>> Phil Dobbin wrote:
>>> Hi, all.
>>>
>>> For the first time since I seriously started using Vim about six months ago
>>> I got this message on startup:
>>>
>>> `Vim: Caught deadly signal ABRT Vim: Finished. Abort trap`
>>>
>>> I'd been using it all day&  had just come back to it. This version of Vim
>>> (7.3 Included patches: 1-244, 246-353) is on OS X&  I compiled it myself
>>> back in December&  has worked fine. I subsequently got it back working by
>>> removing the FuzzyFinder plugin which I had recollections of reading about
>>> being troublesome some while ago but had since been fixed so whether this
>>> was a lucky guess or not I'm not sure. As an aside MacVim on the same
>>> machine worked fine when the terminal one wasn't working.
>>>
>>> Seeing as this is first problem I've had in this respect, can anyone advise
>>> on the best way to troubleshoot this kind of occurrence? I've Googled on it
>>> but nothing much came up. I've also got a copy of the crash log if that's
>>> any help to anybody.
>>>
>> * try to get a reproducible example; preferably with  vim -u NONE  .
>> Barring that, try to isolate to a minimal .vimrc and minimal qty of plugins.
>> * I'm not familiar with OS-X; under linux, I'd advise compiling with -g
>> and getting a core dump.  Find out where the crash occurred (file, line
>> number), and values of pertinent variables
>> * see if valgrind helps
>
> Hi, Chip.
>
> Thanks for the reply.
>
> The relevant part of the crash log as far as I can see is:
>
> `Exception Type:  EXC_CRASH (SIGABRT)
> Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000
> Crashed Thread:  0  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
>
> Application Specific Information:
> abort() called
>
> Thread 0 Crashed:  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
> 0   libSystem.B.dylib                 0x00007fff891000b6 __kill + 10
> 1   vim                               0x00000001000df604 0x100000000 +
> 914948
> 2   libSystem.B.dylib                 0x00007fff891121ba _sigtramp + 26
> 3   libSystem.B.dylib                 0x00007fff891000b6 __kill + 10
> 4   libSystem.B.dylib                 0x00007fff891a09f6 abort + 83
> 5   libSystem.B.dylib                 0x00007fff890b8195 free + 128
> 6   dyld                              0x00007fff5fc06d5f`
>
> Going on what I could glean from that & what I read at:
>
> <http://www.gnu.org/s/libc/manual/html_node/Program-Error-Signals.html>
>
> is that Vim aborted before it crashed on launch. Starting Vim -u NONE it
> functioned as normal & upon removing a couple of plugins it reverted to
> normal.
>
> Modifying `libSystem.B.dylib 0x00007fff891000b6 __kill + 10` to make it a
> viable search term in Google/Stack Overflow turns up scores of entries of
> crashes across several different applications on OS X Snow Leopard (which is
> the OS this particular version of Vim of mine crashed on) so it may seem
> reasonable to  conjecture that this problem is OS specific. The odd thing
> however, is that the gui version MacVim functioned normally the whole time
> with the same plugins & vimrc.
>
> Cheers,
>
>    Phil...

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#13060 From: David Sanson <dsanson@...>
Date: Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:25 pm
Subject: Re: switching between windows in different spaces with the keyboard
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On Thursday, January 19, 2012 12:37:33 PM UTC-5, björn wrote:

I had a look at this and it turns out that it sort of already works to
cycle through windows in native full-screen.  The catch is that it
only works if you cycle to another window once before entering
full-screen.

Can you explain a bit more? Are you saying that you can cycle between MacVim windows in different spaces in the usual way, i.e., CMD-`? I can't get even this to work in MacVim (or any other program I've tried, including Terminal.app), and that seems to be independent of whether or not any of the windows are fullscreen. So I was inferring that the problem was that (a) cycling between windows in different spaces doesn't work in Lion (except via the icon clicking trick); (b) a native fullscreen window is in its own space; (c) the dock isn't available in fullscreen, so the clicking trick isn't available either. But it sounds like you are saying that (a) is wrong, or only true for you in certain circumstances?
 

It almost seems like a bug in Lion: if I enter and immediately exit
full-screen, then it is no longer possible to cycle to another window
(even though I'm out of full-screen).  

Okay. Yes, I've noticed this too, and it does seem like a bug. But I wasn't able to replicate it in Terminal.app or Chrome.app, so I'm not sure it is a Lion bug.
 

If I click on another (MacVim-)
window when the current window is in this state, then I can cycle back
and everything works (even in full-screen).

I can replicate everything about this except the "even in full-screen" bit. What once again works for me, after I click on another MacVim window is cycling between windows within the current space.
 

I've tried to work around this bug by setting
NSWindowCollectionBehaviorParticipatesInCycle at various places in the
code, but no luck so far.  Not really sure what to do about it, but it
seems that some hack is in order to get this working.

I'll let this rest and ask that somebody else takes a look at it.

Sounds reasonable. At this point, I am wondering if I have some system wide setting that is blocking cycling through windows in different spaces in all my applications, and is unrelated to the apparent bug you describe above.

I should mention I am running MacVim built using homebrew, from commit 9fbcbadb0, dating back to January 10th.

David

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#13061 From: David Sanson <dsanson@...>
Date: Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:30 pm
Subject: Re: switching between windows in different spaces with the keyboard
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On Thursday, January 19, 2012 12:41:44 PM UTC-5, Xiao G. Wu wrote:

It would be really nice if we could implement it like how the Mac terminal App works. Command-`

That should already work. If not, add something like

   map <D-`> :maca _cycleWindows:<CR>
   map <D-~> :maca _cycleWindowsBackwards:<CR>

to your .gvimrc, and you should be good to go. For more information, search the list for `_cycleWindows`. You'll find that some issues arise depending on your keyboard layout.

David
 

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#13062 From: Bram Moolenaar <Bram@...>
Date: Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:43 am
Subject: Vim for iPad
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Hello Vim and iPad users,

If you have an iPad, you can now run Vim on it:

http://applidium.com/en/applications/vim/

Obviously not having a keyboard is a drawback, but otherwise it appears
to work well.

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#13063 From: Phil Dobbin <phildobbin@...>
Date: Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:42 pm
Subject: Re: Vim for iPad
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On 20/01/2012 11:43, Bram Moolenaar wrote:
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> Hello Vim and iPad users,
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> If you have an iPad, you can now run Vim on it:
>
> http://applidium.com/en/applications/vim/
>
> Obviously not having a keyboard is a drawback, but otherwise it appears
> to work well.
>

I've installed it on my iPhone & all seems OK. I already use iSSH on the
'phone with an Apple wireless keyboard but have yet had the time to try
it with Vim. Can't see why it wouldn't work too though.

Very cool 20th anniversary item.

Cheers,

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#13064 From: Chris Lott <chris@...>
Date: Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:34 pm
Subject: Re: Vim for iPad
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On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:43 AM, Bram Moolenaar <Bram@...> wrote:
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> Hello Vim and iPad users,
>
> If you have an iPad, you can now run Vim on it:
>
> http://applidium.com/en/applications/vim/
>
> Obviously not having a keyboard is a drawback, but otherwise it appears
> to work well.

Wow, what a cool anniversary present. Vim on the iPad is something
I've been dreaming about for a while.

There's at least one immediate issue for me: if I launch vim with my
keyboard already on, the keyboard is non-functional until I turn it
off, wait for the on-screen keyboard to launch, then turn it back on
again. Obviously kind of a pain.

Of course, I assume it is impossible to install plugins?

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#13065 From: dacresni <vivacarlie@...>
Date: Sat Jan 21, 2012 4:56 am
Subject: clewn macvim or vim on snow leopard
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I'm trying to build Clewn on snow leopard, has anyone else tried? I get this message and I'm not very familear with the vim code base 

config.status: creating Makefile
config.status: WARNING:  Makefile.in seems to ignore the --datarootdir setting
config.status: creating runtime/Makefile
config.status: WARNING:  runtime/Makefile.in seems to ignore the --datarootdir setting
config.status: creating config.h
config.status: config.h is unchanged
config.status: executing depfiles commands

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#13066 From: björn <bjorn.winckler@...>
Date: Sat Jan 21, 2012 9:46 am
Subject: Re: clewn macvim or vim on snow leopard
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On 21 January 2012 05:56, dacresni wrote:
> I'm trying to build Clewn on snow leopard, has anyone else tried?

I made an effort to get it working a while ago and I summarized the
steps I took near the end of this thread:

http://groups.google.com/group/vim_mac/browse_thread/thread/1a7b591e69635357?pli\
=1

As far as I can tell from that thread, I did manage to get it up and
running but there were some problems I never resolved.

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#13067 From: Andrew Long <andrew.long@...>
Date: Sat Jan 21, 2012 1:24 pm
Subject: Re: Vim for iPad
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On 20 Jan 2012, at 16:34, Chris Lott wrote:

> On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:43 AM, Bram Moolenaar <Bram@...> wrote:
>>
>> <snip/>
>>
>> Obviously not having a keyboard is a drawback, but otherwise it appears
>> to work well.
>
> <snip/>
>
> There's at least one immediate issue for me: if I launch vim with my
> keyboard already on, the keyboard is non-functional until I turn it
> off, wait for the on-screen keyboard to launch, then turn it back on
> again. Obviously kind of a pain.

Yes, I had a similar experience, although maybe I'm missing something simple...
I found getting into visual (swipe across the screen) or insert  (press 'i')
mode easy enough, either with the on-screen keyboard, or with the apple wireless
keyboard connected, but I couldn't get out back into normal mode; there's no
sign of an 'esc' key on the on-screen, and it wasn't listening to the 'esc' key
on the wireless...

>
> Of course, I assume it is impossible to install plugins?

Or additional syntax files?

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#13068 From: David Sanson <dsanson@...>
Date: Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:06 pm
Subject: Re: Vim for iPad
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@andy: by default, ESC is remapped to the backslash.

On the question of plugins, syntax files, etc., I haven't had too much of a chance to play with this, and I left my wireless keyboard at the office, so I'm a bit hampered for the rest of the weekend. But it seems to find the .vimrc I created in my $HOME directory without any trouble. The only trouble is that you can't upload dot files via iTunes, so if you want to use an existing .vimrc, you'll have to rename it to .vimrc after you've copied it over. You can do this by using netrw's rename command (hit 'R' while the cursor is within the filename).

There is a .vim folder there too. I'm not sure what the best way is to get plugins into the .vim folder: it doesn't show up in iTunes, and you can't copy folders over using iTunes. I tested a simple plugin by copying it over, creating .vim/plugin from within vim using netrw, and then coping the plugin into .vim/plugin/. The plugin works.

I suspect there is no support for python or ruby plugins, and I suspect plugins that call external cli tools are out, so we are limited to "pure" vimscript plugins. It would be neat of there is a way, within these limitations, to unarchive a folder. If so, there would be a reasonable way to install plugins. If not, we have to wait until we have better file transfer options, I assume.

David

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