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#3528 From: Unnsse Khan <untz@...>
Date: Sat Oct 1, 2005 7:42 am
Subject: Help with ruby Vim Extensions on OS X Tiger
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Hello again :-)

Ok, I am using VIM 7.0aa Alpha on Mac OS X Tiger 10.4...

Here's my problem:

When ever I launch the Terminal in OS X and type gvim, it actually
does launch gvim, and everything runs fine and dandy but in my shell,
I get this runtime error:

Error detected while processing /Applications/Vim.app/runtime/plugin/
ruby.vim:
line    1:
E474: Invalid argument: foldmethod=syntax^M
line    2:
E669: Unprintable character in group name
E409: Unknown group name: rubyTodo^M
E475: Invalid argument: rubyComment "#.*" contains=rubyTodo^M
line    3:
E475: Invalid argument: rubyMarkedRegion start="#begin_region"
end="#end_region" contains=rubyTodo fold ^M

The web site I used to configure Ruby:

http://www.rubygarden.org/ruby?VimExtensions

This is what I did:

I placed a file called rubymenu.vim in /Applications/Vim.app/runtime

rubymenu.vim contained the following line of code:

amenu &Ruby.&Run :!ruby %

I also placed a file called ruby.vim in /Applications/Vim.app/runtime/
plugin

ruby.vim's contents are:

set foldmethod=syntax
syn match  rubyComment "#.*" contains=rubyTodo
syn region rubyMarkedRegion start="#begin_region" end="#end_region"
contains=rubyTodo fold
set foldtext=getline(v:foldstart)
" you may try out this: set foldcolumn=3
set fillchars=fold:\ " note the whitespace after
" not neccessary but useful (so you can use the TAB key to fold/unfold):
map <TAB> za

This is what my .vimrc file contains:

set nocompatible
set ts=4
source $VIMRUNTIME/rubymenu.vim
set keymodel=startsel
set nu
set autoindent
set ruler
set backspace=indent,eol,start
syntax on
colorscheme torte
set gfn=Anonymous:h12
imap <D-Z> u
imap <D-z> <C-O>u

the $VIMRUNTIME is of course:

/Applications/Vim.app/runtime

Any suggestions?

Many, many thanks!

-Unnsse

#3529 From: Bram Moolenaar <Bram@...>
Date: Sat Oct 1, 2005 10:20 am
Subject: Re: Help with ruby Vim Extensions on OS X Tiger
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Unnsse Khan wrote:

> Ok, I am using VIM 7.0aa Alpha on Mac OS X Tiger 10.4...
>
> Here's my problem:
>
> When ever I launch the Terminal in OS X and type gvim, it actually
> does launch gvim, and everything runs fine and dandy but in my shell,
> I get this runtime error:
>
> Error detected while processing /Applications/Vim.app/runtime/plugin/
> ruby.vim:
> line    1:
> E474: Invalid argument: foldmethod=syntax^M
> line    2:
> E669: Unprintable character in group name
> E409: Unknown group name: rubyTodo^M
> E475: Invalid argument: rubyComment "#.*" contains=rubyTodo^M
> line    3:
> E475: Invalid argument: rubyMarkedRegion start="#begin_region"
> end="#end_region" contains=rubyTodo fold ^M

Your ruby.vim apparently is in dos fileformat.  I should be unix.

Edit the file and do ":set ff=unix|w".

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#3530 From: Unnsse Khan <untz@...>
Date: Sat Oct 1, 2005 10:37 am
Subject: Re: Help with ruby Vim Extensions on OS X Tiger
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Bram,

When I edited the file by typing:

Raven:/Applications/Vim.app/runtime/plugin untz$ gvim ruby.vim

gvim launched and displayed the contents of ruby.vim

I then clicked on the ":" and typed this:

set ff=unixlw

I got this error message:

E474 Invalid argument ff=unixlw

Therefore, nothing is changed and this is still broken...

Has anyone found a way to correctly install these Vim Extensions on
OS X Tiger?

Should I use the RubyGems package manager utility to install the
necessary vim files?

When I did a query using RubyGems I discovered a vim-ruby:

Raven:~ untz$ gem query -rn vim-ruby

*** REMOTE GEMS ***

vim-ruby (2005.09.15, 2004.09.20)
      Ruby configuration files for Vim.  Run 'vim-ruby-install.rb' to
      complete installation.

Has anyone used installed this with the VIM 7.0aa ALPHA version on OS
X? Should I install this version (meaning will it ruin the working
copy of gvim/vim that I already have installed)?

Any tips, suggestions, and help are greatly appreciated.....

Many, many thanks!

Unnsse

On Oct 1, 2005, at 3:20 AM, Bram Moolenaar wrote:

>
> Unnsse Khan wrote:
>
>
>> Ok, I am using VIM 7.0aa Alpha on Mac OS X Tiger 10.4...
>>
>> Here's my problem:
>>
>> When ever I launch the Terminal in OS X and type gvim, it actually
>> does launch gvim, and everything runs fine and dandy but in my shell,
>> I get this runtime error:
>>
>> Error detected while processing /Applications/Vim.app/runtime/plugin/
>> ruby.vim:
>> line    1:
>> E474: Invalid argument: foldmethod=syntax^M
>> line    2:
>> E669: Unprintable character in group name
>> E409: Unknown group name: rubyTodo^M
>> E475: Invalid argument: rubyComment "#.*" contains=rubyTodo^M
>> line    3:
>> E475: Invalid argument: rubyMarkedRegion start="#begin_region"
>> end="#end_region" contains=rubyTodo fold ^M
>>
>
> Your ruby.vim apparently is in dos fileformat.  I should be unix.
>
> Edit the file and do ":set ff=unix|w".
>
> --
> A parent can be arrested if his child cannot hold back a burp
> during a church
> service.
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>
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>

#3531 From: "A. J. Mechelynck" <antoine.mechelynck@...>
Date: Sat Oct 1, 2005 10:51 am
Subject: Re: Help with ruby Vim Extensions on OS X Tiger
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Unnsse Khan wrote:
> Bram,
>
> When I edited the file by typing:
>
> Raven:/Applications/Vim.app/runtime/plugin untz$ gvim ruby.vim
>
> gvim launched and displayed the contents of ruby.vim
>
> I then clicked on the ":" and typed this:
>
> set ff=unixlw

>
> I got this error message:
>
> E474 Invalid argument ff=unixlw
>
> Therefore, nothing is changed and this is still broken...
[...]


It's not unixlw (unix ell doubleu) it's unix|w (unix bar doubleu). Or
you could also do

	 :set ff=unix
	 :w

No need to click with the mouse, you can hit the : key on the keyboard.


Best regards,
Tony.

#3532 From: Chris Allen <c.d.allen@...>
Date: Sat Oct 1, 2005 12:23 pm
Subject: Build errors with latest CVS of Vim7aa
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The current CVS version of Vim7aa does not build on OS X when --use-x
is used.  The ./configure line I am using is:

./configure --with-features=huge --enable-gui=no --enable-mouse
--with-x=/usr/X11R6

The error is:

gcc -c -I. -Iproto -DHAVE_CONFIG_H   -DMACOS_X_UNIX
-I/Developer/Headers/FlatCarbon -no-cpp-precomp  -g -O2
-I/usr/X11R6/include        -o objects/buffer.o buffer.c
In file included from proto.h:265,
                  from vim.h:1668,
                  from buffer.c:28:
proto/os_mac_conv.pro:7: error: parse error before '*' token
proto/os_mac_conv.pro:8: error: parse error before '*' token
proto/os_mac_conv.pro:8: warning: data definition has no type or storage class
proto/os_mac_conv.pro:9: error: parse error before "mac_enc_to_cfstring"
proto/os_mac_conv.pro:9: warning: data definition has no type or storage class
make: *** [objects/buffer.o] Error 1

This appears to stem from os_mac.h's blanket disinclusion of OS X
header files, which leaves UniChar undefined in os_mac_conv.pro

Thanks,
Chris Allen

#3533 From: Bram Moolenaar <Bram@...>
Date: Mon Oct 3, 2005 6:34 pm
Subject: Vim 6.4 preparations
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It looks like Vim 7 is still far from a release.  There are quite a few
things to be worked on.  And I'm going to Uganda for about a month, that
pushes it further forward.

Vim 6.3 was released over a year ago.  There are patches, but many
people prefer installing Vim directly, with all the updated runtime
files.  Therefore I'm planning a 6.4 release.  This is just going to be
Vim 6.3 with all the patches included and the most recent runtime files.

If there is some bug that was fixed in Vim 7 but not put back into Vim
6.3, let me know and I'll see if the risk is small enough to do that
now.  Stability is the main goal of this release, thus I will reject
anything that I am not confident about.

The most recent runtime files can be found here:
	 ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/runtime/
If you spot an outdated file there, please ask the maintainer to send me
an update.

Don't send requests for new features, I will ignore them.

It has been a long time since I made a release, I'm first going to make
Vim 6.4a beta.  Mostly to verify the release building is OK.

Schedule:
Right now, until October 7: Maintainers send me updated runtime files
     Weekend of October 8/9: Vim 6.4a beta
     Less than a week later: Vim 6.4

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#3534 From: eljay@...
Date: Thu Oct 6, 2005 2:02 am
Subject: Mail Delivery (failure vim-mac@...)
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#3535 From: mikmach@...
Date: Thu Oct 6, 2005 6:29 am
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#3538 From: Lukas Muehlethaler <lukas.muehlethaler@...>
Date: Sun Oct 9, 2005 4:03 pm
Subject: Problem with spell highlighting in gvim 7.0aa on Mac OS 10.3.9 and 10.4.2
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Hi,

I compiled Vim 7.0aa (CVS Oct 4) on Mac OS 10.3.9 and 10.4.2, both with
GUI (Carbon) and without. The spellcheck feature works in both versions
(']s', 'z?', etc.), but only the non-GUI version (in Terminal.app)
highlights misspelled words---the GUI version doesn't. By the way, I
enabled the +syntax feature at compile time and removed .vim and .gvim
just in case...

Thanks for your help!

Lukas

P.S. Sorry for the crossposting!

#3539 From: Bram Moolenaar <Bram@...>
Date: Sun Oct 9, 2005 4:12 pm
Subject: Vim version 6.4a BETA has been released
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Announcing:  Vim (Vi IMproved) version 6.4a BETA
     Author:  Bram Moolenaar et al.


Announcement
------------

This is a bugfix BETA release of Vim.  Since Vim 6.3 dozens of reported
problems have been fixed.  Also included are new and updated syntax
files, translated menus and messages.

There are no new features.  This release is only fixing bugs.

Once you have installed 6.4a BETA you can find details about the changes
since Vim 6.3 with ":help version-6.4".  There is a long list of fixed
bugs.


Testing
-------

This is a BETA test version.  Most of the changes were already released
as patches and have been used by many people for a while.  I don't
expect problems, thus feel free to install this for real work.

Do watch out for any mistakes with the distribution.  I haven't made a
release for quite a while.  The "big" Win32 executable now uses Python
2.4 instead of 2.3.  For Perl and Ruby a minor update was done to Perl
5.8.7 and Ruby 1.8.3.

Please report anything that doesn't look right.  Vim 6.4 should be the
most reliable Vim ever!  If everything goes well I'll release Vim 6.4 in
less than a week.


What is Vim?
------------

Vim is an almost 100% compatible version of the UNIX editor Vi.  Many
new features have been added: Multi level undo, syntax highlighting,
command line history, filename completion, block operations, etc.  Those
who don't know Vi can probably skip this message, unless you are
prepared to learn something new and useful.  Vim is especially
recommended for editing programs.

Vim runs on almost any Unix flavor, MS-DOS, MS-Windows 3.1, MS-Windows
95/98/ME/NT/2000/XP, OS/2, Atari MiNT, BeOS, VMS, RISC OS, Macintosh and
Amiga.

For more information, see http://www.vim.org.  This is also a great
place to find Vim tips and scripts!


Where to get it
---------------

Information about which files to download for what system:

         http://www.vim.org/download.php

All files can be found below this directory:

         ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/

A list of mirror sites can be found here:

         http://www.vim.org/mirrors.php

An overview of the files:

UNIX:
unix/vim-6.4a.tar.bz2           sources + runtime files, bzip2 compressed
   unix/vim-6.4a-rt1.tar.gz        runtime files part 1
   unix/vim-6.4a-rt2.tar.gz        runtime files part 2
   unix/vim-6.4a-src1.tar.gz       sources part 1
   unix/vim-6.4a-src2.tar.gz       sources part 2
unix/vim-6.3-6.4a.diff.gz       diff between 6.3 and 6.4a

VARIOUS:
extra/vim-6.4a-extra.tar.gz         extra files
extra/vim-6.4a-lang.tar.gz          multi-language files
extra/vim-6.3-6.4a-extra.diff.gz    diff for extra files
extra/vim-6.3-6.4a-lang.diff.gz     diff for multi-language files
doc/vim64ahtml.zip                  help files converted to HTML

MS-WINDOWS:
pc/gvim64a.exe                  self-installing, includes all runtime files
pc/vim64art.zip                 runtime files
pc/vim64alang.zip               files for translated messages and menus
pc/gvim64a.zip                  GUI binary for Windows 95/98/NT/2000/XP
pc/gvim64aole.zip               GUI binary with OLE support
pc/vim64ad16.zip                16 bits real mode - works on any system
pc/vim64ad32.zip                32 bits protected mode - needs 386 and DPMI
pc/vim64aw32.zip                console version for Windows NT/2000/XP
pc/vim64asrc.zip                sources for PC (with CR-LF)

AMIGA:
amiga/vim64art.tgz              runtime files (always needed)
amiga/vim64abin.tgz             executable files
amiga/vim64asrc.tgz             sources packed for Amiga
                                 (no binary yet, sorry)


Mailing lists
-------------

For user questions you can turn to the Vim mailing list.  There are a
lot of tips, scripts and solutions.  You can ask your Vim questions, but
only if you subscribe.  See http://www.vim.org/maillist.php.  An archive
is kept at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vim.

If you want to help Vim development or get the latest patches, subscribe
to the vim-dev mailing list.  An archive is kept at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vimdev.

Subject specific lists:
Multi-byte issues: vim-multibyte  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vim-multibyte
Macintosh issues:  vim-mac        http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vim-mac


Reporting bugs
--------------

Send them to <bugs@...>.  Please describe the problem precisely.
All the time spent on answering mail is subtracted from the time that is
spent on improving Vim!  Always give a reproducible example and try to
find out which settings or other things influence the appearance of the
bug.  Try starting without your own vimrc file: "vim -u NONE".  Try
different machines if possible.  See ":help bugs" in Vim.  Send me a
patch if you can!

If something needs discussing with other developers, send a message to the
vim-dev mailing list.  You need to subscribe first.


Happy Vimming!

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#3540 From: Chris Allen <c.d.allen@...>
Date: Sun Oct 9, 2005 4:15 pm
Subject: Re: Problem with spell highlighting in gvim 7.0aa on Mac OS 10.3.9 and 10.4.2
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On 09/10/05, Lukas Muehlethaler <lukas.muehlethaler@...> wrote:
> I compiled Vim 7.0aa (CVS Oct 4) on Mac OS 10.3.9 and 10.4.2, both with
> GUI (Carbon) and without. The spellcheck feature works in both versions
> (']s', 'z?', etc.), but only the non-GUI version (in Terminal.app)
> highlights misspelled words---the GUI version doesn't.

More generally, underlining and italics do not work for Vim 7 under OS
X's native GUI.  You can temporarily resolve the highlighting issue by
changing your highlighting settings to something which does not use
undercurl, underline or italics.

Regards,
Chris Allen

#3541 From: Bram Moolenaar <Bram@...>
Date: Sun Oct 9, 2005 4:20 pm
Subject: Re: Problem with spell highlighting in gvim 7.0aa on Mac OS 10.3.9 and 10.4.2
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Lukas Muehlethaler wrote:

> I compiled Vim 7.0aa (CVS Oct 4) on Mac OS 10.3.9 and 10.4.2, both with
> GUI (Carbon) and without. The spellcheck feature works in both versions
> (']s', 'z?', etc.), but only the non-GUI version (in Terminal.app)
> highlights misspelled words---the GUI version doesn't. By the way, I
> enabled the +syntax feature at compile time and removed .vim and .gvim
> just in case...

The Mac GUI doesn't support the undercurl yet (curly underlining).  I
hope someone who know how to draw pixels can implement this.  Examples
can be found in the GTK and Win32 files: gui_gtk_x11.c function
draw_under() and gui_w32.c gui_mch_draw_string().

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#3542 From: Lukas Muehlethaler <lukas.muehlethaler@...>
Date: Sun Oct 9, 2005 5:56 pm
Subject: Re: Problem with spell highlighting in gvim 7.0aa on Mac OS 10.3.9 and 10.4.2
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Dear Bram, dear Chris,

thank you very much for your help! With the colorscheme inkpot and
guifont=Courier:h12 the following works (in .gvimrc):

hi SpellBad guifg=Magenta         (or any other color)
hi SpellCap guifg=Red
hi SpellRare guifg=Yellow
hi SpellLocal guifg=Blue

Alternatively:

hi SpellBad gui=standout guifg=Magenta
hi SpellCap gui=standout guifg=Red
hi SpellRare gui=standout guifg=Yellow
hi SpellLocal gui=standout guifg=Blue

I am sure somebody has a better solution that works for most
colorschemes!


On Oct 9, 2005, at 12:20 PM, Bram Moolenaar wrote:

>
> Lukas Muehlethaler wrote:
>
>> I compiled Vim 7.0aa (CVS Oct 4) on Mac OS 10.3.9 and 10.4.2, both
>> with
>> GUI (Carbon) and without. The spellcheck feature works in both
>> versions
>> (']s', 'z?', etc.), but only the non-GUI version (in Terminal.app)
>> highlights misspelled words---the GUI version doesn't. By the way, I
>> enabled the +syntax feature at compile time and removed .vim and .gvim
>> just in case...
>
> The Mac GUI doesn't support the undercurl yet (curly underlining).  I
> hope someone who know how to draw pixels can implement this.  Examples
> can be found in the GTK and Win32 files: gui_gtk_x11.c function
> draw_under() and gui_w32.c gui_mch_draw_string().
>
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> "You're laid off." (1985)
> "You're downsized." (1990)
> "You're rightsized." (1992)
> 			 (Scott Adams - The Dilbert principle)
>
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>  \\\
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>  ///
>

#3543 From: Bram Moolenaar <Bram@...>
Date: Sun Oct 9, 2005 8:17 pm
Subject: First patch for Vim version 6.4a BETA
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For people building Vim on Unix: You should use the path available here:

	 ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/patches/6.4a/6.4a.001

Sorry about this.

I routinely did "make depend" without checking the results.  It appears
a newer gcc interprets the "-MM" argument in a different way, messing up
the generated dependencies.  #@#$!*&!  This won't be easy to work around
either (please throw some rotten food in the direction of the gcc
maintainers! :-).

Now you know why BETA tests are required...

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#3544 From: Bram Moolenaar <Bram@...>
Date: Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:41 pm
Subject: Vim version 6.4b available, Unix only
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Because of the annoying problem with dependencies in src/Makefile, I
made a Vim 6.4b release for Unix only.  For other systems there are no
changes (except a few less important changes in the help files).

This makes it simpler for people on Unix systems to try out the new 6.4
BETA without the need to apply a patch.  This should also give the
autoconf code to work around the gcc -MM problem some testing.

You can find Vim 6.4b here:
	 ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/unix/

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#3545 From: george@...
Date: Tue Oct 11, 2005 3:05 pm
Subject: Delivery (vim-mac@...)
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#3547 From: george@...
Date: Thu Oct 13, 2005 6:52 pm
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#3548 From: Bram Moolenaar <Bram@...>
Date: Sat Oct 15, 2005 4:30 pm
Subject: Vim version 6.4 has been released
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Announcing:  Vim (Vi IMproved) version 6.4
     Author:  Bram Moolenaar et al.


Announcement
------------

This is a bugfix release of Vim.  Since Vim 6.3 dozens of reported
problems have been fixed.  Also included are new and updated syntax
files, translated menus and messages.

There are no new features.  This release is only fixing bugs.

A Beta version revealed a few problems, mostly in the creation of the
generated files.  This has been fixed and tested again.  I am confident
that the 6.4 release is the most stable Vim ever!

Once you have installed 6.4 you can find details about the changes since
Vim 6.3 with ":help version-6.4".  There is a long list of fixed bugs.


What is next?
-------------

Vim 7!  If I keep getting donations from sponsors and registered Vim
users I will be able to add several "big" features.  One of the new
features is spell checking, it already works quite well.  The list of
votes is an indication of other items that might get added in Vim 7:
         http://www.vim.org/sponsor/vote_results.php


What is Vim anyway?
-------------------

Vim is an almost 100% compatible version of the UNIX editor Vi.  Many
new features have been added: Multi level undo, syntax highlighting,
command line history, filename completion, block operations, etc.  Those
who don't know Vi can probably skip this message, unless you are
prepared to learn something new and useful.  Vim is especially
recommended for editing programs.

Vim runs on almost any Unix flavor, MS-DOS, MS-Windows 3.1, MS-Windows
95/98/ME/NT/2000/XP, OS/2, Atari MiNT, BeOS, VMS, RISC OS, Macintosh and
Amiga.

For more information, see http://www.vim.org.  This is also a great
place to find Vim tips and scripts!


Where to get it
---------------

Information about which files to download for what system, obtaining Vim
through Aap, CVS, etc.:

         http://www.vim.org/download.php

All files can be found below this directory:

         ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/

A list of mirror sites can be found here:

         http://www.vim.org/mirrors.php

An overview of the files:

UNIX:
unix/vim-6.4.tar.bz2           sources + runtime files, bzip2 compressed
         The same in parts that fit on a floppy:
   unix/vim-6.4-rt1.tar.gz        runtime files part 1
   unix/vim-6.4-rt2.tar.gz        runtime files part 2
   unix/vim-6.4-src1.tar.gz       sources part 1
   unix/vim-6.4-src2.tar.gz       sources part 2
unix/vim-6.3-6.4.diff.gz       diff between 6.3 and 6.4

VARIOUS:
extra/vim-6.4-extra.tar.gz     extra files
extra/vim-6.4-lang.tar.gz      multi-language files
extra/vim-6.3-6.4-extra.diff.gz    diff for extra files
extra/vim-6.3-6.4-lang.diff.gz     diff for multi-language files
doc/vim64html.zip              help files converted to HTML

DIFFS between 6.4b and 6.4:
unstable/unix/vim-6.4b-6.4.diff.gz          sources and runtime files
unstable/extra/vim-6.4b-6.4-extra.diff.gz   extra files
unstable/extra/vim-6.4b-6.4-lang.diff.gz    multi-language files

MS-WINDOWS:
pc/gvim64.exe                  self-installing, includes all runtime files,
                                    gvim.exe, vim.exe, etc.
pc/vim64rt.zip                 runtime files (use with one of the binaries)
pc/vim64lang.zip               files for translated messages and menus
pc/gvim64.zip                  GUI binary for Windows 95/98/NT/2000/XP
pc/gvim64ole.zip               GUI binary with OLE support
pc/gvim64_s.zip                GUI binary for Windows 3.x with Win32s
pc/vim64d16.zip                16 bits real mode - works on any system
pc/vim64d32.zip                32 bits protected mode - needs 386 and DPMI
pc/vim64w32.zip                console version for Windows NT/2000/XP
pc/vim64src.zip                sources for PC (with CR-LF)

AMIGA:
amiga/vim64rt.tgz              runtime files (always needed)
amiga/vim64bin.tgz             executable files
amiga/vim64src.tgz             sources packed for Amiga


Mailing lists
-------------

For user questions you can turn to the Vim mailing list.  There are a
lot of tips, scripts and solutions.  You can ask your Vim questions, but
only if you subscribe.  First search the archive, it is full of useful
hints.

If you want to help Vim development or get the latest patches, subscribe
to the vim-dev mailing list.

Subject specific lists:
Multi-byte issues: vim-multibyte
Macintosh issues:  vim-mac

More info on the maillists and links to the archives:
         http://www.vim.org/maillist.php


Reporting bugs
--------------

Send them to <bugs@...>.  Please describe the problem precisely.
All the time spent on answering mail is subtracted from the time that is
spent on improving Vim!  Always give a reproducible example and try to
find out which settings or other things influence the appearance of the
bug.  Try starting without your own vimrc file: "vim -u NONE".  Try
different machines if possible.  See ":help bugs" in Vim.  Send me a
patch if you can!

If something needs discussing with other developers, send a message to the
vim-dev mailing list.  You need to subscribe first.


Sponsoring
----------

Fixing bugs and adding new features takes an awful lot of time.  Through
your donations Bram will be able to have a part-time job and spend more
time on Vim.  See:
         http://www.vim.org/sponsor/


Happy Vimming!

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#3549 From: Bram Moolenaar <Bram@...>
Date: Sun Oct 16, 2005 7:24 pm
Subject: Vim version 6.4 also for OS/2
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The Vim 6.4 binaries for OS/2 are now also available.  Thanks to David
Sanders for making these.

You can find the Vim 6.4 files here: ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/

os2/vim64rt.tgz              runtime files (always needed)
os2/vim64os2.tgz             executable files, including EMX libraries

Install instructions can be found in the README_os2.txt file.

Happy Vimming!

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#3551 From: Chris Fonnesbeck <fonnesbeck@...>
Date: Mon Oct 17, 2005 1:48 pm
Subject: Vim 6.4 binary
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For those interested, I have a fresh build of vim 6.4 from CVS posted
on my website:

http://homepage.mac.com/fonnesbeck

This was built on Tiger with GCC 4.0.0.

Chris

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#3553 From: Benji Fisher <benji@...>
Date: Tue Oct 18, 2005 2:06 pm
Subject: vim 6.4 for OSX 10.3 and 10.4
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Mac Vim fans:

      I have just uploaded binaries of vim 6.4 to http://macvim.org/OSX .
The one for 10.3 (Panther) includes support for cscope, ruby, perl,
python, and tcl.  The one for 10.4 (Tiger) includes all those except
ruby.  Even with "normal" features (instead of "huge") and no other
interfaces, the build fails when I try to add +ruby on 10.4.

      The most recent build of 6.3 on the site already has all but the
last dozen or so patches that went into 6.4, so this is not the most
major improvement ever.  If you do decide to try the latest version,
please let me know.  I should be able to label the builds of vim 6.4 as
"stable" pretty soon.

					 --Benji Fisher

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