... Vim doesn't add a BOM, it only preserves it when it's already there. ... You can reset the 'bomb' option to remove a BOM when writing a file. -- My...
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Rick Frankum
frankum@...
Oct 4, 2003 6:09 pm
Hello, I'm trying to figure out how to configure vim on my system. I'm running Windows XP (English menus, but with Japanese support enabled) and would like to...
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Tony Mechelynck
antoine.mechelynck@...
Oct 4, 2003 6:41 pm
... Hello. I have only some of the answers you are looking for. Probably someone else will jump in to fill in what I didn't know. ... +multi_byte_ime/dyn means...
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Rick Frankum
frankum@...
Oct 5, 2003 4:13 pm
... I appreciate it! ... To update: the vim I have is indeed multibyte-enabled. The big problem appears to be that I'm not editing S-JIS files but in fact...
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Glenn Maynard
glenn@...
Oct 5, 2003 8:42 pm
... You need iconv.dll to handle euc-jp. You also need to change "fileencoding", not "encoding";. "encoding"; represents the internal representation, and should...
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Camillo Särs
ged@...
Oct 10, 2003 12:16 pm
Hi, (vim 6.2, WinXP) If I use the UTF-8 encoding, and enter non-ascii characters in filenames, they also use the UTF-8 encoding. That's clearly wrong on...
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Glenn Maynard
glenn@...
Oct 12, 2003 7:48 pm
Hmm. My reply appears to have vanished without a trace. I'd attached os_win32.c (not noticing that it was an extremely oversized source file--over 100k); I'm...
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Tony Mechelynck
antoine.mechelynck@...
Oct 12, 2003 8:44 pm
Glenn Maynard <glenn@...> wrote: [...] ... [...] There are more problems than just printing. As long as 'fileencoding', 'printencoding' and (most...
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Glenn Maynard
glenn@...
Oct 12, 2003 9:39 pm
... This is a trivial fix, which I already proposed many months ago: the defaults in Windows should be the results of exe "set fileencodings=ucs-bom,utf-8,cp"...
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Tony Mechelynck
antoine.mechelynck@...
Oct 13, 2003 12:41 am
... Trivial or not, my opinion is that handling files and keypresses as per the locale shouldn't be a "fix", it should be the (program) default. The "minor ...
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Glenn Maynard
glenn@...
Oct 13, 2003 1:29 am
... My suggestion was that these be the default settings in Windows, not be settings that the user has to fix. ... This sounds like a bug. The input from...
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Tony Mechelynck
antoine.mechelynck@...
Oct 13, 2003 3:21 am
... I understood you as meaning that the program-default setting should be Unicode. I beg to differ, however. Or maybe I misunderstood what you were saying....
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Glenn Maynard
glenn@...
Oct 13, 2003 4:16 am
... I believe that the *internal* encoding ("encoding") can, if the various bugs are fixed, reasonably be UTF-8, unless there's outcry about memory usage. I...
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Tony Mechelynck
antoine.mechelynck@...
Oct 13, 2003 5:28 am
... so, IIUC, if we want to keep keyboard input, printer output, and file creation to operate by default according to the geographic locale, then one thing...
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Glenn Maynard
glenn@...
Oct 13, 2003 5:44 am
... That's what I was suggesting originally, I just wasn't clear enough. ... (Right, but the difference is significant, so I just wanted to make it clear that...
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Camillo Särs
ged@...
Oct 13, 2003 7:24 am
... Correct. Additionally, you can always enter any unicode character code directly from the keyboard. All that is needed is the numeric keypad in numlock...
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Glenn Maynard
glenn@...
Oct 13, 2003 7:47 am
... They don't break down, they're just imperfect. ... Vim should support UTF-8 in 9x, too. ... It works well for many uses; I use enc=utf-8 exclusively, to...
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Bram Moolenaar
Bram@...
Oct 13, 2003 9:38 am
... The default that Vim starts with is 'encoding' set to the active codepage and 'fileencoding' set to "ucs-bom". This means it falls back to 'encoding' when...
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Camillo Särs
ged@...
Oct 13, 2003 10:00 am
... Well, if I can't write a filename the way I need to write it, I have a problem. Fortunately this is mostly theoretic for me, but for some users resorting...
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Bram Moolenaar
Bram@...
Oct 13, 2003 10:55 am
... On Windows NT/XP there are also restrictions, especially when using non-NTFS filesystems. There was a discussion about this in the Linux UTF-8 maillist a...
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Camillo Särs
ged@...
Oct 13, 2003 11:51 am
... Right, I forgot about those. AFAIK, the fuctions do not fail silently in those cases, so it's just (yet) more work. Essentially, file names then come...
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Bram Moolenaar
Bram@...
Oct 13, 2003 12:23 pm
... Because every fopen(), stat() etc. will have to be changed. ... This only means extra work, since an "if (encoding == ...)" has to be added to select...
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Camillo Särs
ged@...
Oct 13, 2003 12:59 pm
... Right. You're not using Windows apis, of course. But to do things correctly, you would have to make sure that the fopen() etc. implementations [in...
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Tony Mechelynck
antoine.mechelynck@...
Oct 13, 2003 3:39 pm
... [...] ... [...] Glenn Maynard wants 'encoding' to default to "utf-8" regardless of the active codepage. IMHO this would require 'termencoding' to default,...
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Tony Mechelynck
antoine.mechelynck@...
Oct 13, 2003 3:52 pm
... [...] ... Took me some figuring too. A few hours ago I uploaded my solution to vim-onlline (set_utf8.vim, ...
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Bram Moolenaar
Bram@...
Oct 13, 2003 6:47 pm
... A file name may appear in a file (e.g., a list of files in a README file). And I don't know what happens with file names on removable media (e.g., a CD)....
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Glenn Maynard
glenn@...
Oct 13, 2003 9:58 pm
Note that I've upgraded, and I'm not having problems with files saving incorrectly in enc=utf-8. The remaining problems are mostly cosmetic, except for not...
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Camillo Särs
ged@...
Oct 14, 2003 5:54 am
... Both floppies, CDs and network file systems are mounted by windows, and "some" translation of file names happens. AFAIK, you should be able to access all...
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Bram Moolenaar
Bram@...
Oct 14, 2003 12:19 pm
... So, what you suggest is to keep using the ordinary file system functions. But we must make sure that the file name is then in the active codepage...
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Camillo Särs
ged@...
Oct 14, 2003 12:51 pm
... While that may sound attractive at first, I would strongly dissuade from that solution. I consider it to be a myth that using multilingual filenames on...
