You may have noticed that the Vim maillist server has died. It was an
old machine. A big thanks to the people in Berlin for keeping it alive
for such a long time!

The situation with our own maillist server was OK, but when the
maintainer is on a holiday it may take quite a long time before a
problem gets fixed. Or we lose contact with the maintainer for unknown
reasons (which is what happened last week with a potential new server).
Several people suggested using Google Groups. We have tried it out for
a few days with the vim-experiment group. It mostly works well.
Although it is not perfect I have decided to move everything there now.


You are getting this message because you were subscribed to one of the
maillists in the past. The subscriber lists are NOT transferred to the
new groups (1). If you want to continue getting messages about Vim you
need to subscribe.

IF YOU DO NOTHING, THIS IS THE LAST MESSAGE YOU WILL GET!

To subscribe, send a message to the <name>-subscribe@... list. You
will get a message back that you need to reply to before you are
actually subscribed. NOTE: clicking on the URL in the message may not
work.

These are the subscription addresses:

vim-announce-subscribe@... important announcements only
vim-subscribe@... using Vim
vim-dev-subscribe@... developing Vim
vim-mac-subscribe@... Vim on the Mac
vim-multibyte-subscribe@... multi-byte issues

Note that, like before, you need to be subscribed to be able to post a
message. Thus make sure you subscribe from the same account you would
normally send a message to a Vim list from.

For more information visit: http://www.vim.org/maillist.php
You can set your subscription to be in digest form on the Google Groups
webpage. I haven't seen a method using e-mail only yet.

After a few days the vim-experiment list will be removed, please stop
using it.

I'm trying to add the Yahoo groups as a subscriber, so that we have a
complete archive there (well, for as far as Yahoo didn't delete messages
for quota reasons). Didn't work yet.

Happy Vimming!

- Bram

(1) I have tried to use the "add subscribers" feature of Google Groups,
but they have several mechanisms to protect from spammers misusing
this. I have sent in a few lists, some people may be automatically
subscribed. But it was too cumbersome to do it for everybody.

--
All good vision statements are created by groups of people with bloated
bladders who would rather be doing anything else.
(Scott Adams - The Dilbert principle)

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