What a way to bring a web site to it's knees. I wonder when it will recover?

John

--- In vuedesprit@yahoogroups.com, "perryh@..." <perryh@...> wrote:
>
> Yee-Ha!
>
> It's out!
>
> Lots of new information and iamges on the site, too.
>

Yee-Ha!

It's out!

Lots of new information and iamges on the site, too.

Well it's out

and damn I am excited

Ashe

--- In vuedesprit@yahoogroups.com, "ashe_rvn" <ashe_rvn@...> wrote:
>
> Wait, Im confused.
>
> "If you buy Vue 5 Infinite or the Vue 5 xStream Bundle now, you will
> receive your free upgrade to Vue 6 Infinite/xStream when it is
> released (download version, node-locked). Click here for more info on
> Vue 5 Infinite and Vue 5 xStream Bundle."
>
> Does this come into effect on November 1st?
>
> Ashe Raven
>
> No need to wait! Make the best of this amazing offer today!
>
> --- In vuedesprit@yahoogroups.com, John Hair <john.hair@> wrote:
> >
> > The laatest 3DCommune newsletter had this to say:
> >
> > The boxed version of Vue 6 Infinite should arrive around December.
> > Meanwhile, from November 1st, Vue 5 Infinite will include a free
> > access to the pre-release version of Vue 6 Infinite for a public
> > price of $695!
> >
> > What is a pre-release?
> > The pre-release is a version of the software that has undergone
> > internal and external testing but not yet validated a mass-testing
> > experience. This process is required by our new quality control
> > system before the manufacture of boxed versions.
> >
> >
> > On 31-Oct-06, at 4:07 AM, Ashe Raven wrote:
> >
> > > I've heard nothing. No announcment or anything. But as I'm one of
> > > the lucky ones getting it free, I'm trying not to panic too much.
> > >
> > > Brtacha though, it's late as with most releases :p
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

Wait, Im confused.

"If you buy Vue 5 Infinite or the Vue 5 xStream Bundle now, you will
receive your free upgrade to Vue 6 Infinite/xStream when it is
released (download version, node-locked). Click here for more info on
Vue 5 Infinite and Vue 5 xStream Bundle."

Does this come into effect on November 1st?

Ashe Raven

No need to wait! Make the best of this amazing offer today!

--- In vuedesprit@yahoogroups.com, John Hair <john.hair@...> wrote:
>
> The laatest 3DCommune newsletter had this to say:
>
> The boxed version of Vue 6 Infinite should arrive around December.
> Meanwhile, from November 1st, Vue 5 Infinite will include a free
> access to the pre-release version of Vue 6 Infinite for a public
> price of $695!
>
> What is a pre-release?
> The pre-release is a version of the software that has undergone
> internal and external testing but not yet validated a mass-testing
> experience. This process is required by our new quality control
> system before the manufacture of boxed versions.
>
>
> On 31-Oct-06, at 4:07 AM, Ashe Raven wrote:
>
> > I've heard nothing. No announcment or anything. But as I'm one of
> > the lucky ones getting it free, I'm trying not to panic too much.
> >
> > Brtacha though, it's late as with most releases :p
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Hmmmm... That's pretty good. One day late?

I've never seen a company make it so close to their release date
(which is why most of them don't give out dates!).

Thanks a lot for this posting.

Perry


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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

The laatest 3DCommune newsletter had this to say:

The boxed version of Vue 6 Infinite should arrive around December.
Meanwhile, from November 1st, Vue 5 Infinite will include a free
access to the pre-release version of Vue 6 Infinite for a public
price of $695!

What is a pre-release?
The pre-release is a version of the software that has undergone
internal and external testing but not yet validated a mass-testing
experience. This process is required by our new quality control
system before the manufacture of boxed versions.


On 31-Oct-06, at 4:07 AM, Ashe Raven wrote:

> I've heard nothing. No announcment or anything. But as I'm one of
> the lucky ones getting it free, I'm trying not to panic too much.
>
> Brtacha though, it's late as with most releases :p



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I've heard nothing. No announcment or anything. But as I'm one of the lucky ones
getting it free, I'm trying not to panic too much.

Brtacha though, it's late as with most releases :p


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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I know it wasn't a promise, but E-On mentioned they wanted to
pre-release Vue 6 Infinite in October 2006.

Well, we have one more day left. Anyone know if they are going to
make it by their own deadline?

Any rumors?

I'm drumming my fingers on the table. Waiting.
Waiting...


....Just..... Waiting...

:-)

Thank you for your comments. I belive I have improved to the
atmosphere a little with this image giving it a more Silent Hill feel.

http://www.mangagothic.co.uk/brokendolls/handsofshadow2.jpg

I hoep you like this improvment. Utilising Vue, Poser, Anime Studioo
and Paint Shop Pro.

Ashe Raven

--- In vuedesprit@yahoogroups.com, Khem Caigan <Khem@...> wrote:
>
> Ashe Raven doth schriebble:
> >
> > Now I would like to comment on how exciting the animated billboard
> > feature was to a 2D animator like myself. I am a dedicated user of
> > both Vue and Anime Studio pro and when Infinate offered me the
> > opportunity to utilise both through the use of animated alpha planes
> > and the bill board feature my heart skipped a beat. I have developed
> > some work using this feature but I am in the process of tidying up a
> > few rough edges. I will show you this though
> >
> > http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/41914725/
> >
> > It's a character from my Silent Hill fan movie created in Anime Studio
> > then imported as an alpha plane into Vue 5 Infinate. I will put up
> > some animated sequences soon. But this is but a small example of what
> > I've been able to achive which has added some much needed atmosphere
> > to my work. I hope you like it.
>
>
> Great work! And a brilliant
> blending of graphics tools!
> Please keep us in the loop!
>
> Cors in Manu Domine,
>
>
> ~ Khem Caigan
> <Khem@...>
>

Ashe Raven doth schriebble:
>
> Now I would like to comment on how exciting the animated billboard
> feature was to a 2D animator like myself. I am a dedicated user of
> both Vue and Anime Studio pro and when Infinate offered me the
> opportunity to utilise both through the use of animated alpha planes
> and the bill board feature my heart skipped a beat. I have developed
> some work using this feature but I am in the process of tidying up a
> few rough edges. I will show you this though
>
> http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/41914725/
>
> It's a character from my Silent Hill fan movie created in Anime Studio
> then imported as an alpha plane into Vue 5 Infinate. I will put up
> some animated sequences soon. But this is but a small example of what
> I've been able to achive which has added some much needed atmosphere
> to my work. I hope you like it.


Great work! And a brilliant
blending of graphics tools!
Please keep us in the loop!

Cors in Manu Domine,


~ Khem Caigan
<Khem@...>

--- In vuedesprit@yahoogroups.com, "ashe_rvn" <ashe_rvn@...> wrote:
>
> I thought this perhaps migth be a better example
>
> http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/41927061/
>
> Sorry to bug yah all
>
> Ashe Raven


How wonderfully atmospheric! After seeing a million landscapes (or
still lifes) done with Vue it's so refreshing to see someone really
pushing the envelope (in an impressive way!) of what this software can
really accomplish -- keep up the great work!!!!  :D

SunDogDeb

I thought this perhaps migth be a better example

http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/41927061/

Sorry to bug yah all

Ashe Raven

http://www.mangagothic.co.uk

--- In vuedesprit@yahoogroups.com, "ashe_rvn" <ashe_rvn@...> wrote:
>
> First of all let me say hello
>
> "Hello"
>
> Now I woudl liek to comment on how exciting the animated billboard
> feature was to a 2D animator like myself. I am a dedicated user of
> both Vue and Anime Studio pro and when Infinate offered me the
> opportunity to utilise both through the use of animated alpha planes
> and the bill board feature my heart skipped a beat. I have developed
> some work using this feature but I am in the process of tidying up a
> few rough edges. I will show you this though
>
> http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/41914725/
>
> It's a chracter from my Silent Hill fan movie created in Anime Studio
> then imported as an alpha plane into Vue 5 Infinate. I will put up
> some animated sequences soon. But this is but a small example of what
> I've been able to achive which has added some much needed atmosphere
> to my work. I hope you like it
>
> Ashe Raven
> http://www.mangagothic.co.uk
>

First of all let me say hello

"Hello"

Now I woudl liek to comment on how exciting the animated billboard
feature was to a 2D animator like myself. I am a dedicated user of
both Vue and Anime Studio pro and when Infinate offered me the
opportunity to utilise both through the use of animated alpha planes
and the bill board feature my heart skipped a beat. I have developed
some work using this feature but I am in the process of tidying up a
few rough edges. I will show you this though

http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/41914725/

It's a chracter from my Silent Hill fan movie created in Anime Studio
then imported as an alpha plane into Vue 5 Infinate. I will put up
some animated sequences soon. But this is but a small example of what
I've been able to achive which has added some much needed atmosphere
to my work. I hope you like it

Ashe Raven
http://www.mangagothic.co.uk

Nice idea for the site, but I think a couple of constructive
comments are in order-

1. You should have got a team of you friends together before
launching the site - that way, you would have more stuff going on,
more posts, etc.

2. Scrap the 5-post rule for URLs - it kills the interest,
especially as you don't have anything going on for people to post
comments on. You can't expect everyone to turn up and start using
the site, and then get there posts total up enough to participate
fully - they already have to register to access the site anyway.

Not trying to knock you (I'm your only other registered member at
the moment, after all)so please don't take offence.

Nick
http://www.niandji.com




--- In vuedesprit@yahoogroups.com, "cold_moon_risen" <mal368@...>
wrote:
>
> just thought I would introduce myself. I have been using Vue5 for
> about 3 weeks now and what can I say but wow what a great piece of
> software, but hey you allready know that. Anyway a bit about
myself im
> 36 and a total amateur when it comes to 3D software although vue
is
> relativly straightforward a tool. Im more used to working in the
2D
> envirnment in Photoshop. I started in photoshop making custom
> wallpapers and signatures for friends in the gaming community. I
have
> also been involved in the creation of several gaming community
forums
> with members form all over the world. i have just recently created
a
> forum for people interested in digital art in all its forms be it
> rendering or digital photography, I would be more than happy if
you
> guys would pop over and add you tuppence worth to the forum, as I
said
> it has just got off the ground and im in need of members, mods and
> admins. you can check the forum out at www.rendereye.co.nr
>
> Cheers and keep up the good work.
>

just thought I would introduce myself. I have been using Vue5 for
about 3 weeks now and what can I say but wow what a great piece of
software, but hey you allready know that. Anyway a bit about myself im
36 and a total amateur when it comes to 3D software although vue is
relativly straightforward a tool. Im more used to working in the 2D
envirnment in Photoshop. I started in photoshop making custom
wallpapers and signatures for friends in the gaming community. I have
also been involved in the creation of several gaming community forums
with members form all over the world. i have just recently created a
forum for people interested in digital art in all its forms be it
rendering or digital photography, I would be more than happy if you
guys would pop over and add you tuppence worth to the forum, as I said
it has just got off the ground and im in need of members, mods and
admins. you can check the forum out at www.rendereye.co.nr

Cheers and keep up the good work.

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Cobus Prinsloo doth schriebble:
>
> I think part of your problem may be because it was
> rendered at 600 dpi. Colour images for print output
> don't need to go higher than 300 dpi. Anything above
> that is overkill.

Hi, Cobus ~


The render time is not a problem for me - perhaps you are
replying to Tim's post?

With this piece - particularly with regards to the crystal
material - I am not working toward print output.

I am working toward high-definition digital projection
output for planetarium domes that are, at minimum, fifty
feet across.

I actually have to *upsample* from 600 dpi images in order
to get enough pixels to produce a clear picture, using
Genuine Fractals PrintPro.

However, when I do print my work, I have it printed at 600
dpi, because the quality of the print is so much better.

By way of current events, AnimePaper has just accepted my
submission of *STARRY WISDOM*, which can be viewed here:

*STARRY WISDOM*
http://tinyurl.com/z6r6e

Membership in the AnimePaper Community is required in order
to download their images in a larger format, but I see that
the Moderators were kind enough to include the link to the
*enormous* and original image, which is still up on my own site:

http://tinyurl.com/oatfd


Hoping that this email finds you all in Good Fettle, I remain ~

Yr Serv't in Yog Sothoth Neblod Zin,


~ Khem Caigan
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I think part of your problem may be because it was rendered at 600 dpi. Colour
images for print output don't need to go higher than 300 dpi. Anything above
that is overkill.

   Regards


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Don't think so but I haven't seen anything. Send them over again.
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Tim Murray doth schriebble:
>
> OUCH !!! four days to render this ? I hate to tell you
> this, but there's SOMETHING wrong in your scene if it
> took that long. I've made 18 x 24 posters at 300 DPI
> with volumetrics and fog that took 30 hrs on my old
> 1.7 Ghz.

Hi, Tim ~

What can I say? In my experience, rendering complicated
transparent crystalline substances with volumetrics takes time.

Vue's "guesstimator" had originally suggested a render
time of four hours, before the render had reached the
Trapezohedron.

All the Best,


~ Khem Caigan
<Khem@...>

Just testing to see if I am getting any messages through. I sent in
three already and I am seeing nothing. Do the messages have to
accepted by a moderater first? Emily

OUCH !!! four days to render this ? I hate to tell you
this, but there's SOMETHING wrong in your scene if it
took that long. I've made 18 x 24 posters at 300 DPI
with volumetrics and fog that took 30 hrs on my old
1.7 Ghz.

--- Khem Caigan <Khem@...> wrote:

> Hi, all ~
>
>
> Just completed a test render using a crystalline
> material I've been developing for a few weeks now.
>
> There is no post work on this piece, and I have put
> it up at the size that it was rendered - 600 dpi.
>
> Here is a link to the 7.01 MB bitmap:
>
> http://www.zapgarden.com/RENDER_TEST_9-6-06.bmp
>
> Took my 3D-BOXX four days.
>
> Intel Xeon CPU: 3.60 GHz,
> with 3G of RAM,
> under WinXP
>
> All the Best,
>
>
> ~ Khem Caigan
> <Khem@...>
>
>
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Hi, all ~


Just completed a test render using a crystalline
material I've been developing for a few weeks now.

There is no post work on this piece, and I have put
it up at the size that it was rendered - 600 dpi.

Here is a link to the 7.01 MB bitmap:

http://www.zapgarden.com/RENDER_TEST_9-6-06.bmp

Took my 3D-BOXX four days.

Intel Xeon CPU: 3.60 GHz,
with 3G of RAM,
under WinXP

All the Best,


~ Khem Caigan
<Khem@...>

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I want to composite a real sky in the background of an outdoor scene which
includes smoke and lens flares. I assume that one can utilize G-Buffer rendering
to retain the smoke and lensflare data over the sky's alpha channel.

   But, after having done a test rendering with this option, I could not find any
additional layered data in my Photoshop rendered image.

   Can somebody please help me? This has to be done for a client of mine.

   Many thanks
   Cobus



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Yeah, I went and read more about it. I don't think there's any need to
contact them about Vue 6I because it seems pretty straightforward. I
know there's something there about upgrading from Vue 4 Pro to Vue 6
Infinite, but I'm really not concerned about upgrading. It's bad
enough I have to dig out the Vue 3.1 CD every time I want to reinstall
Vue 4, so I imagine I'll just buy Vue 5 Infinite outright, full package.
It's not that expensive, and definitely seems well worth it
considering the soon-to-be availability of Vue 6 as an upgrade.
I'm looking forward to it. I haven't thought much about Vue in a
while, let alone used it, until the last couple days, that is, but now
I have a real need for software that can do landscapes easily, as part
of my job, and Vue 4 seems completely ancient now.

I remembered you are involved with the Xfrog people, but that wasn't
just flattery. Those plants really are excellent.

Cheers,
Mike

No I haven't.  Tina
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From: John Hair <john.hair@...>
I thought I read somewhere else that someone had Vue running on an
Intel Mac, the only problem was it was not optimized. Have you
contacted E-ON?

John

On 4-Aug-06, at 8:02 PM, T.Hopkins7@... wrote:

> To answer my original question whether my Vue 4 Pro and Vue 5
> Infinite upgrade will work on my new Intel Mac the answer is no.
> It keeps telling me to reinstall it and it won't open. And I'm
> sure that goes for other software as well until they are made to
> work with the intel macs. Tina

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vue_er wrote:
> Ahh, Orio, there you are! Thanks for the reply. :)
> Doing well... a little too busy with my job and all, but doing well.
> You?

Ditto. With a stronger accent on the "busy with my job" part  ;-)
But now I'm going into some vacation - yippiee!

> Will
> Vue 6 have everything that Vue 5 Infinite has, plus more?
> So, if Vue 6 includes V5I, I guess I should probably just wait.

You don't have to! If you buy Vue 5 Infinite now, you'll receive Vu6 6
Infinite as a free upgrade!
But - I don't know if this is valid also for upgrades - that is, I don't
know if it's the same if you upgrade from 4 to 5i and or if you buy 5i
straight. You should visit www.e-onsoftware.com and perhaps call or write to
a sales representative.

> Another thing I find interesting is that V5I has a Lightwave scene
> export. I couldn't find anything on how well that works, or what
> version of LW is supported - I didn't really look too thoroughly
> though.

Well, Vue 6i can have even more: if you choose the "Xstream" version, you
will be able to integrate the two programs, that is, you can open a Vue
scene in Lightwave and have it interact with Lightwave objects (also
animated), and you can go back and forth to Vue to edit the Vue scene -
changes are reflected in real time into Lightwave.
Beware of the price though - the Xstream solution isn't cheap.

> Thanks also for the X Frog info. I wasn't aware the models could be
> bought separately. Those plants and trees and flowers in those
> collections have to be the best I've ever seen.

Thank you. In part it's my fault  ;-)

cheers
Orio

Ahh, Orio, there you are! Thanks for the reply. :)
Doing well... a little too busy with my job and all, but doing well. You?

Since I wrote the above message this morning, I browsed around various
Vue forums and other info I could come across,and I think I pretty
much made up my mind to go ahead and buy.
But then there's the new matter (which I think just happened
saturday?) of the announcement of the pending release of Vue 6. Will
Vue 6 have everything that Vue 5 Infinite has, plus more?
They kind of lost me - seems that there are several different versions
of everything now. I just recently learned that Vue 5 and Vue 5
Infinite were two different creatures. ;)
So, if Vue 6 includes V5I, I guess I should probably just wait.
Another thing I find interesting is that V5I has a Lightwave scene
export. I couldn't find anything on how well that works, or what
version of LW is supported - I didn't really look too thoroughly though.

Thanks also for the X Frog info. I wasn't aware the models could be
bought separately. Those plants and trees and flowers in those
collections have to be the best I've ever seen.

Well, I'll talk to you later.
Cheers,
Mike