Would anyone be interested in helping Ben as the Advocacy Co-Chair for
the Advocacy Committee.
This can be very rewarding and an opportunity to work with great people
and influence the direction of the association and industry
if you are interested please contact me at
rfoley@...
Hi, Ben! I don't know how big this group is, but it would be really
helpful to send out invites to the conference calls via Outlook. Thanks.
--- In waa_advocacy@yahoogroups.com, "benisaacson" <Ben.Isaacson@...>
wrote:
>
> I think we should have our scheduled call tomorrow to discuss whether
> the Googleclick privacy issues will impact our web analytics efforts.
>
> Please call-in at 10PST/1EST to:
>
> 641-985-1000 (227677#)
>
>
> Best,
>
> --Ben Isaacson
>
I think we should have our scheduled call tomorrow to discuss whether
the Googleclick privacy issues will impact our web analytics efforts.
Please call-in at 10PST/1EST to:
641-985-1000 (227677#)
Best,
--Ben Isaacson
Spyware
legislation has presented some issues for us in the past as they sometimes unintentionally
include various web technologies which we use in their text.
The
House Subcommittee on Commerce, Trade and Consumer Protection will be holding a
Spyware hearing tomorrow on H.R. 964, the text of the bill is available here: http://energycommerce.house.gov/privacy/HR_spyware.pdf
At 10:39 AM 1/18/2007, Curtis Tinsley, PhD, MD(H), MHA, FACHE
wrote:
My intention to join your little
group, learn about WAA and appropriately "advocate" the use and
acceptance of clinical web analytics. Perhaps I am in the wrong
group. Sorry for you time.
----- Original Message ----
From: "Curtis Tinsley, PhD, MD(H), MHA, FACHE"
<dr_curtis_tinsley@...>
To: waa_advocacy@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 2, 2007 9:47:42 AM
Subject: Re: [waa_advocacy] Re: Web 2.0 and PVs, User Experince
Hey Jay,
Dr. Newbie here! Well after days and weeks of 90 degree learning
curves, I have produced my first web analytic report for a client
hospital or should I say Integrated Delivery Network of (9) hospitals.
You have to understand that I am transferring my Knowledge Base of
Clinical Pathology to Cyber Pathology in eHealth.
The client wants to know if there is an industry standard for rate of
growth for a web portal. We at MEDSEEK term every Internet access
point we deploy as a portal - more specifically I refer to them all as
clinical portals within the hospital environment. The measurement( s)
from WebTrends that I leveraged was NEW versus RETURNED visitors to the
new enterprise portals. - right at six months old. (don't know what to do
about the 29.76% of visitors who do not accept cookies) Good, bad
or indifferent the report looked "bitchen" and the information
presented was a reasonable surrogate for "growth rate" of a new
web site. Comparison reporting will follow using some of the our large
client hospital networks.
My intended mission as a member of WAA and specifically for joining this
Advocacy Group is to be educated daily, slip into your learning loop and
try to establish a novel section specifically for eHealth, i.e., the
deployment and integration of Internet technologies in clinical processes
a.k.a. hospital web sites (inter & intra).
Sorry for the long wind here but this is my first Group encounter and I'm
loaded with questions just keep the coffee pouring.
-Curt-
Curtis J. Tinsley, M.D.(H), Ph.D., M.H.A., CPHQ, FACHE (use credentials
only once as introduction to Group)
MEDSEEK, eHealth Officer
"Taking the Art of Medicine to the Level of Science"
----- Original Message ----
From: Jay McCarthy <jmccarthy@websidest ory.com>
To: waa_advocacy@ yahoogroups. com
Cc: seth.romanow@ comcast.net; cdalessa@organic. com; richard.foley@
sas.com; andrea@netsetgo. com; Shubhra.Srivastava@ ichotelsgroup. com;
civy@charter. net; greg.drew@webtrends .com; bryane@futurenowinc
.com
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 11:54:42 AM
Subject: RE: [waa_advocacy] Re: Web 2.0 and PVs, User Experince
In my view
this is not a topic for the advocacy committee rather perhaps the
technology committee.
-Jay-
From: waa_advocacy@ yahoogroups. com
[
mailto:waa_ advocacy@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Jim
Sterne Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 5:36 PM To: waa_advocacy@ yahoogroups. com Cc: seth.romanow@ comcast.net; cdalessa@organic. com;
richard.foley@ sas.com; andrea@netsetgo. com; Shubhra.Srivastava@
ichotelsgroup. com; civy@charter. net; greg.drew@webtrends .com;
bryane@futurenowinc .com Subject: Re: [waa_advocacy] Re: Web 2.0 and PVs, User
Experince
Any reason Eric is doing this, rather than the WAA?
At 06:36 AM 11/11/2006, Stephane Hamel wrote:
This is a hot topic and a working group led by Eric Peterson is
looking into it. There is a diversity of media and medium in the Web
2.0 sphere, which makes it more complex to measure than if it was
only
pure HTML viewed in a browser.
There seems to be a consensus that "page view" is not the good
unit of
measure anymore... I sugested, based on post I had seen a long time
ago, "meaningful user event" but the question remains: how to
measure it!
--- In waa_advocacy@
yahoogroups. com, "mokatia" <mokatia@...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
> I'm here in San Francisco attending the web 2.0 conference and i was
> wondering how can we accomodate and accurtly measure the user
experince
> in a web 2.0 world.
>
> mostafa
>
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My intention to join your little group, learn about WAA and appropriately "advocate" the use and acceptance of clinical web analytics. Perhaps I am in the wrong group. Sorry for you time.
----- Original Message ---- From: "Curtis Tinsley, PhD, MD(H), MHA, FACHE" <dr_curtis_tinsley@...> To: waa_advocacy@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 2, 2007 9:47:42 AM Subject: Re: [waa_advocacy] Re: Web 2.0 and PVs, User Experince
Hey Jay,
Dr. Newbie here! Well after days and weeks of 90 degree learning curves, I have produced my first web analytic report for a client hospital or should I say Integrated Delivery Network of (9) hospitals. You have to understand that I am transferring my Knowledge Base of Clinical Pathology to Cyber Pathology in eHealth.
The client wants to know if there is an industry standard for rate of growth for a web portal. We at MEDSEEK term every Internet access point we deploy as a portal - more specifically I refer to them all as clinical portals within the hospital environment. The measurement( s) from WebTrends that I leveraged was NEW versus RETURNED visitors to the new enterprise portals. - right at six months old. (don't know what to do about the 29.76% of visitors who do not accept cookies) Good, bad or indifferent the report looked "bitchen" and the information presented was a reasonable surrogate for "growth rate" of a new web site. Comparison reporting will follow using some of the our large client hospital networks.
My intended mission as a member of WAA and specifically for joining this Advocacy Group is to be educated daily, slip into your learning loop and try to establish a novel section specifically for eHealth, i.e., the deployment and integration of Internet technologies in clinical processes a.k.a. hospital web sites (inter & intra).
Sorry for the long wind here but this is my first Group encounter and I'm loaded with questions just keep the coffee pouring.
-Curt-
Curtis J. Tinsley, M.D.(H), Ph.D., M.H.A., CPHQ, FACHE (use credentials only once as introduction to Group)
MEDSEEK, eHealth Officer
"Taking the Art of Medicine to the Level of Science"
----- Original Message ---- From: Jay McCarthy <jmccarthy@websidest ory.com> To: waa_advocacy@ yahoogroups. com Cc: seth.romanow@ comcast.net; cdalessa@organic. com; richard.foley@ sas.com; andrea@netsetgo. com; Shubhra.Srivastava@ ichotelsgroup. com; civy@charter. net; greg.drew@webtrends .com; bryane@futurenowinc .com Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 11:54:42 AM Subject: RE: [waa_advocacy] Re: Web 2.0 and PVs, User Experince
In my view this is not a topic for the advocacy committee rather perhaps the technology committee.
-Jay-
From: waa_advocacy@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:waa_ advocacy@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Jim Sterne Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 5:36 PM To: waa_advocacy@ yahoogroups. com Cc: seth.romanow@ comcast.net; cdalessa@organic. com; richard.foley@ sas.com; andrea@netsetgo. com; Shubhra.Srivastava@ ichotelsgroup. com; civy@charter. net; greg.drew@webtrends .com; bryane@futurenowinc .com Subject: Re: [waa_advocacy] Re: Web 2.0 and PVs, User Experince
Any reason Eric is doing this, rather than the WAA?
At 06:36 AM 11/11/2006, Stephane Hamel wrote:
This is a hot topic and a working group led by Eric Peterson is looking into it. There is a diversity of media and medium in the Web 2.0 sphere, which makes it more complex to measure than if it was only pure HTML viewed in a browser.
There seems to be a consensus that "page view" is not the good unit of measure anymore... I sugested, based on post I had seen a long time ago, "meaningful user event" but the question remains: how to measure it!
--- In waa_advocacy@ yahoogroups. com, "mokatia" <mokatia@...> wrote: > > Hello, > I'm here in San Francisco attending the web 2.0 conference and i was > wondering how can we accomodate and accurtly measure the user experince > in a web 2.0 world. > > mostafa >
------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ------ Emetrics Summit, The Big Picture Optimizing Online Marketing Value
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Dr. Newbie here! Well after days and weeks of 90 degree learning curves, I have produced my first web analytic report for a client hospital or should I say Integrated Delivery Network of (9) hospitals. You have to understand that I am transferrring my Knowledge Base of Clinical Pathology to Cyber Pathology in eHealth.
The client wants to know if there is an industry standard for rate of growth for a web portal. We at MEDSEEK term every Internet access point we deploy as a portal - more specifically I refer to them all as clinical portals within the hospital environment. The measurement(s) from WebTrends that I leveraged was NEW versus RETURNED visitors to the new enterprise portals. - right at six months old. (don't know what to do about the 29.76% of visitors who do not accept cookies) Good, bad or indifferent the report looked "bitchen" and the information presented was a reasonable surrogate for "growth rate" of a new web site. Comparison reporting will follow using some of the our large client hospital networks.
My intended mission as a member of WAA and specifically for joining this Advocacy Group is to be educated daily, slip into your learning loop and try to establish a novel section specifically for eHealth, i.e., the deployment and integration of Internet technologies in clinical processes a.k.a. hospital web sites (inter & intra).
Sorry for the long wind here but this is my first Group encounter and I'm loaded with questions just keep the coffee pouring.
-Curt-
Curtis J. Tinsley, M.D.(H), Ph.D., M.H.A., CPHQ, FACHE (use credentials only once as introduction to Group)
MEDSEEK, eHealth Officer
"Taking the Art of Medicine to the Level of Science"
----- Original Message ---- From: Jay McCarthy <jmccarthy@...> To: waa_advocacy@yahoogroups.com Cc: seth.romanow@...; cdalessa@...; richard.foley@...; andrea@...; Shubhra.Srivastava@...; civy@...; greg.drew@...; bryane@... Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 11:54:42 AM Subject: RE: [waa_advocacy] Re: Web 2.0 and PVs, User Experince
In my view this is not a topic for the advocacy committee rather perhaps the technology committee.
-Jay-
From: waa_advocacy@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:waa_ advocacy@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Jim Sterne Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 5:36 PM To: waa_advocacy@ yahoogroups. com Cc: seth.romanow@ comcast.net; cdalessa@organic. com; richard.foley@ sas.com; andrea@netsetgo. com; Shubhra.Srivastava@ ichotelsgroup. com; civy@charter. net; greg.drew@webtrends .com; bryane@futurenowinc .com Subject: Re: [waa_advocacy] Re: Web 2.0 and PVs, User Experince
Any reason Eric is doing this, rather than the WAA?
At 06:36 AM 11/11/2006, Stephane Hamel wrote:
This is a hot topic and a working group led by Eric Peterson is looking into it. There is a diversity of media and medium in the Web 2.0 sphere, which makes it more complex to measure than if it was only pure HTML viewed in a browser.
There seems to be a consensus that "page view" is not the good unit of measure anymore... I sugested, based on post I had seen a long time ago, "meaningful user event" but the question remains: how to measure it!
--- In waa_advocacy@ yahoogroups. com, "mokatia" <mokatia@...> wrote: > > Hello, > I'm here in San Francisco attending the web 2.0 conference and i was > wondering how can we accomodate and accurtly measure the user experince > in a web 2.0 world. > > mostafa >
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Thanks!
Well, I’ve
spent the weekend in Web 2.0 cyberspace, and in addition to ‘hot topic’
and ‘diversified media’ I might add the words ‘intuitively
muddled.’
For example:
-opening up accounts in blogging
software is a newbie nightmare
-Getting ready to post
your first article on Newsvine
-Figuring out the measure of
your reputation on del.icio.us was other people’s bookmarking you, when
you started out innocently thinking it was just a convenient labour saving web
book marker for yourself
So maybe a good place to start might be by
us collectively developing intuitive and web-journey guidance to offer to Web
2.0 tech builders, whilst figuring out how to develop integrated metrics from a
variety of paths, touchpoints, and report variations.
Maybe Technology would be fine for that,
with intuitive guidance as part of the brief?
-----Original
Message----- From: Jim Sterne
[mailto:jsterne@...] Sent: 12 November 2006 20:47 To: waa_advocacy@yahoogroups.com;
waa_advocacy@yahoogroups.com Cc: seth.romanow@...; cdalessa@...;
richard.foley@...; andrea@...;
Shubhra.Srivastava@...; civy@...;
greg.drew@...; bryane@... Subject: RE: [waa_advocacy] Re:
Web 2.0 and PVs, User Experince
Ahhh - but we
abolished that a while ago.
Any reason to bring it back? Or should we
foster "working groups" as Eric has called his?
At 08:54 AM 11/12/2006, Jay McCarthy wrote:
In my
view this is not a topic for the advocacy committee rather perhaps the
technology committee.
-Jay-
From:
waa_advocacy@yahoogroups.com [ mailto:waa_advocacy@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Jim Sterne Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006
5:36 PM To: waa_advocacy@yahoogroups.com Cc: seth.romanow@comcast.net;
cdalessa@organic.com; richard.foley@sas.com; andrea@netsetgo.com;
Shubhra.Srivastava@ichotelsgroup.com; civy@charter.net;
greg.drew@webtrends.com; bryane@futurenowinc.com Subject: Re: [waa_advocacy] Re:
Web 2.0 and PVs, User Experince
Any reason Eric is doing this, rather than the WAA?
At 06:36 AM 11/11/2006, Stephane Hamel wrote:
This is a hot topic and a working group led by Eric Peterson is
looking into it. There is a diversity of media and medium in the Web
2.0 sphere, which makes it more complex to measure than if it was only
pure HTML viewed in a browser.
There seems to be a consensus that "page view" is not the good unit
of
measure anymore... I sugested, based on post I had seen a long time
ago, "meaningful user event" but the question remains: how to measure
it!
--- In waa_advocacy@yahoogroups.com,
"mokatia" <mokatia@...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
> I'm here in San Francisco attending the web 2.0 conference and i was
> wondering how can we accomodate and accurtly measure the user experince
> in a web 2.0 world.
>
> mostafa
>
------------------------------------------------------ Emetrics Summit, The Big Picture Optimizing Online Marketing Value
Ahhh - but we abolished that a while ago.
Any reason to bring it back? Or should we
foster "working groups" as Eric has called his?
At 08:54 AM 11/12/2006, Jay McCarthy wrote:
In my view this is
not a topic for the advocacy committee rather perhaps the technology
committee.
-Jay-
From: waa_advocacy@yahoogroups.com
[
mailto:waa_advocacy@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Sterne Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 5:36 PM To: waa_advocacy@yahoogroups.com Cc: seth.romanow@...; cdalessa@...;
richard.foley@...; andrea@...;
Shubhra.Srivastava@...; civy@...;
greg.drew@...; bryane@... Subject: Re: [waa_advocacy] Re: Web 2.0 and PVs, User
Experince
Any reason Eric is doing this, rather than the WAA?
At 06:36 AM 11/11/2006, Stephane Hamel wrote:
This is a hot topic and a working group led by Eric Peterson is
looking into it. There is a diversity of media and medium in the Web
2.0 sphere, which makes it more complex to measure than if it was
only
pure HTML viewed in a browser.
There seems to be a consensus that "page view" is not the good
unit of
measure anymore... I sugested, based on post I had seen a long time
ago, "meaningful user event" but the question remains: how to
measure it!
--- In
waa_advocacy@yahoogroups.com, "mokatia" <mokatia@...>
wrote:
>
> Hello,
> I'm here in San Francisco attending the web 2.0 conference and i was
> wondering how can we accomodate and accurtly measure the user
experince
> in a web 2.0 world.
>
> mostafa
>
------------------------------------------------------ Emetrics Summit, The Big Picture Optimizing Online Marketing Value
In my view this is not a topic for the
advocacy committee rather perhaps the technology committee.
-Jay-
From: waa_advocacy@yahoogroups.com [mailto:waa_advocacy@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Sterne Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006
5:36 PM To: waa_advocacy@yahoogroups.com Cc: seth.romanow@...; cdalessa@...;
richard.foley@...; andrea@...;
Shubhra.Srivastava@...; civy@...;
greg.drew@...; bryane@... Subject: Re: [waa_advocacy] Re:
Web 2.0 and PVs, User Experince
Any reason Eric is doing this, rather than the WAA?
At 06:36 AM 11/11/2006, Stephane Hamel wrote:
This is a hot topic and a
working group led by Eric Peterson is
looking into it. There is a diversity of media and medium in the Web
2.0 sphere, which makes it more complex to measure than if it was only
pure HTML viewed in a browser.
There seems to be a consensus that "page view" is not the good unit
of
measure anymore... I sugested, based on post I had seen a long time
ago, "meaningful user event" but the question remains: how to measure
it!
--- In waa_advocacy@yahoogroups.com,
"mokatia" <mokatia@...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
> I'm here in San Francisco attending the web 2.0 conference and i was
> wondering how can we accomodate and accurtly measure the user experince
> in a web 2.0 world.
>
> mostafa
>
------------------------------------------------------ Emetrics Summit, The Big Picture Optimizing Online Marketing Value
Any reason Eric is doing this, rather than the WAA?
At 06:36 AM 11/11/2006, Stephane Hamel wrote:
This is a hot topic and a
working group led by Eric Peterson is
looking into it. There is a diversity of media and medium in the Web
2.0 sphere, which makes it more complex to measure than if it was
only
pure HTML viewed in a browser.
There seems to be a consensus that "page view" is not the good
unit of
measure anymore... I sugested, based on post I had seen a long time
ago, "meaningful user event" but the question remains: how to
measure it!
--- In
waa_advocacy@yahoogroups.com, "mokatia" <mokatia@...>
wrote:
>
> Hello,
> I'm here in San Francisco attending the web 2.0 conference and i was
> wondering how can we accomodate and accurtly measure the user
experince
> in a web 2.0 world.
>
> mostafa
>
------------------------------------------------------ Emetrics Summit, The Big Picture Optimizing Online Marketing Value
This is a hot topic and a working group led by Eric Peterson is
looking into it. There is a diversity of media and medium in the Web
2.0 sphere, which makes it more complex to measure than if it was only
pure HTML viewed in a browser.
There seems to be a consensus that "page view" is not the good unit of
measure anymore... I sugested, based on post I had seen a long time
ago, "meaningful user event" but the question remains: how to measure it!
Check out http://www.webanalyticsdemystified.com/web2group/index.asp
on Eric Peteron's site for more info about the working group.
S.Hamel
http://shamel.blogspot.com
--- In waa_advocacy@yahoogroups.com, "mokatia" <mokatia@...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
> I'm here in San Francisco attending the web 2.0 conference and i was
> wondering how can we accomodate and accurtly measure the user experince
> in a web 2.0 world.
>
> mostafa
>
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Hello,
I'm here in San Francisco attending the web 2.0 conference and i was
wondering how can we accomodate and accurtly measure the user experince
in a web 2.0 world.
mostafa
At Jay's gentle reminder, I pulled together a quick introduction to get the ball rolling on a regular series of alerts on clickstream-cookie uses. I know it's a bit goofy, but I really like the WAAAA! as the title as it does convey what most people think of when they think of our topics. I also kept the content short and the tone of the brief light to raise the interest level.
Just to be clear; this is not a response to the CDD report. I've known the guy who issued that alert for a while and I genuinely believe he is smoking his own form of crack. Thankfully, no one in the beltway really takes him seriously. I think our best approach to him is let it die down. In my opinion, we have our mission and focus and we should stick to it.
I think we should schedule a make-up call to discuss this and a couple of other agenda items that have been proposed to the group sometime soon. I'll default to Jay to schedule, but the week after next might be good to debrief from the FTC event as well.
Doesn’t really qualify as a web
analytics issue directly, however it seems pretty clear that this was a
careless handling of some pretty sensitive data. If it were possible to
completely anonymize the data perhaps it would be ok, but I don’t think
the technology exists that could ensure that all the personal references are
taken out.
It is certainly a huge faux pas by AOL to
not review this data before releasing it. As for the related issue of all of
these search engines releasing this data along with PII (in cases where they
have it like AOL) or IP address. I’m curious to everyone’s thoughts
on that. Where does the group sit on the balance of security vs privacy and is
it alright for the government to have this data?
-Jay-
From: waa_advocacy@yahoogroups.com [mailto:waa_advocacy@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Edwards Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006
6:29 AM To: waa_advocacy@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [waa_advocacy] FYI..
Looks like a genuine data nightmare. . .what position
does WAA advocacy
take on this?
Jim Sterne wrote:
> This isn't quite - but almost what Bob Page
> meant when he talked about a "Data Chernobyl"
> This is the sort of thing that could cause legislators
> to rise out of their graves and wander, zombie-like
> across the landscape of privacy.
>
>
> At 11:26 AM 8/7/2006, Jay McCarthy wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/06/aol-proudly-releases-massive-amounts-of-user-search-data/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Jay McCarthy*
>> Vice President of Business Development
>>
>> WebSideStory, Inc. <http://www.websidestory.com/>
>>
>> Office: (858) 546.0040 ext.366
>> Fax: (858) 546.0480
>>
>> skype: jmccarthy_wss
>>
>> [] *Professional Profile* <http://www.linkedin.com/pub/0/a24/409>
>> email: jay@websidestory.com
<mailto:jay@websidestory.com>
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>> 10182 Telesis Court, 6th Floor
>> San Diego, CA 92121
>> www.websidestory.com <http://www.websidestory.com/>
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>> WebSideStory - On-Demand Web Analytics
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>> <http://promo.websidestory.com/wssig/marketing/>
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> *Emetrics Summit, The Big Picture - 2006
> *Optimizing Online Marketing Value
> Washington D.C., October 16-18
> http://www.emetrics.org
> <http://www.emetrics.org/>-----------------------------------------------------
> Emetrics Summit 2007: San Francisco, London, Munich....
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> Jim Sterne <jsterne@targeting.com>
> www.targeting.com <http://www.targeting.com/>
+1-805-965-3184
> President, www.WebAnalyticsAssociation.org
> <http://www.webanalyticsassociation.org/>
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Looks like a genuine data nightmare. . .what position does WAA advocacy
take on this?
Jim Sterne wrote:
> This isn't quite - but almost what Bob Page
> meant when he talked about a "Data Chernobyl"
> This is the sort of thing that could cause legislators
> to rise out of their graves and wander, zombie-like
> across the landscape of privacy.
>
>
> At 11:26 AM 8/7/2006, Jay McCarthy wrote:
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http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/06/aol-proudly-releases-massive-amounts-of-use\
r-search-data/
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>> *Jay McCarthy*
>> Vice President of Business Development
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>> WebSideStory, Inc. <http://www.websidestory.com/>
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>> Office: (858) 546.0040 ext.366
>> Fax: (858) 546.0480
>>
>> skype: jmccarthy_wss
>>
>> [] *Professional Profile* <http://www.linkedin.com/pub/0/a24/409>
>> email: jay@... <mailto:jay@...>
>>
>> 10182 Telesis Court, 6th Floor
>> San Diego, CA 92121
>> www.websidestory.com <http://www.websidestory.com/>
>>
>> WebSideStory - On-Demand Web Analytics
>>
>> <http://promo.websidestory.com/wssig/marketing/>
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>
> ------------------------------------------------------
> *Emetrics Summit, The Big Picture - 2006
> *Optimizing Online Marketing Value
> Washington D.C., October 16-18
> http://www.emetrics.org
>
<http://www.emetrics.org/>-----------------------------------------------------
> Emetrics Summit 2007: San Francisco, London, Munich....
> -----------------------------------------------------
> Jim Sterne <jsterne@...>
> www.targeting.com <http://www.targeting.com/> +1-805-965-3184
> President, www.WebAnalyticsAssociation.org
> <http://www.webanalyticsassociation.org/>
--
Andrew Edwards
Managing Partner
Technology Leaders
230 Park Avenue
New York, NY 10169
(212) 808-3058
Cell: (917) 602-0083
aedwards@...
This isn't quite - but almost what Bob Page
meant when he talked about a "Data Chernobyl"
This is the sort of thing that could cause legislators
to rise out of their graves and wander, zombie-like
across the landscape of privacy.
------------------------------------------------------ Emetrics Summit, The Big Picture - 2006 Optimizing Online Marketing Value
Washington D.C., October 16-18
http://www.emetrics.org -----------------------------------------------------
Emetrics Summit 2007: San Francisco, London, Munich....
-----------------------------------------------------
Jim Sterne <jsterne@...> www.targeting.com
+1-805-965-3184
President,
www.WebAnalyticsAssociation.org