do you know where there is an extra copy of the tutorial. The only reason I
am asking for all of this is that I am about to purchase the program and I
want to get comfortable with it before I buy it. I am basically going to use
this software for animated golf course designs. And if there is a tutorial
that I can work with while I have the demo version like the one that is with
it already. The software doesn't seem too hard to learn, but I know it is
difficult to do these types of animations. Thanks for all your help.

Ryan





-----Original Message-----
From: Mindy Bieging [mailto:Mindy@...]
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 3:40 PM
To: wcsml@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [WCS] WCS golf course tutorial


Adam Hauldren wrote:
>
> What about the tutorial that Jamie wrote that comes with the demo?

There was also a tutorial in issue number 43 of 3D Artist Magazine that
is based on one hole of a golf course. This was written by none other
than Scott Cherba!

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Ryan Beecher wrote:
>
> do you know where there is an extra copy of the tutorial. The only reason I
> am asking for all of this is that I am about to purchase the program and I
> want to get comfortable with it before I buy it. I am basically going to use
> this software for animated golf course designs. And if there is a tutorial
> that I can work with while I have the demo version like the one that is with
> it already. The software doesn't seem too hard to learn, but I know it is
> difficult to do these types of animations. Thanks for all your help.
>
> Ryan

The best suggestion that I can make is to go to the 3D Artist web page
and see if you can order a back issue of the magazine.

http://www.3DArtist.com

Mindy
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And it was designing a course with WCS? What issue was it again?

Ryan Beecher
3D Animator
K-fx2, Inc

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Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 4:00 PM
To: wcsml@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [WCS] WCS golf course tutorial


Ryan Beecher wrote:
>
> do you know where there is an extra copy of the tutorial. The only reason
I
> am asking for all of this is that I am about to purchase the program and I
> want to get comfortable with it before I buy it. I am basically going to
use
> this software for animated golf course designs. And if there is a tutorial
> that I can work with while I have the demo version like the one that is
with
> it already. The software doesn't seem too hard to learn, but I know it is
> difficult to do these types of animations. Thanks for all your help.
>
> Ryan

The best suggestion that I can make is to go to the 3D Artist web page
and see if you can order a back issue of the magazine.

http://www.3DArtist.com

Mindy
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Ryan Beecher wrote:
>
> And it was designing a course with WCS? What issue was it again?

The tutorial is about creating a golf green using Terraffectors in World
Construction Set.

Issue Number 43.

Mindy
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Ryan Beecher wrote:
>
> And it was designing a course with WCS? What issue was it again?

There is an image and a few quotes on the WCS Press Coverage Page of our
web site.

http://www.3DNature.com/inthenews.html

Mindy
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Scott's tutorial in 3D ARTIST is on the newstands now. For one, try
Borders, or take a look at other outlets on the 3D ARTIST website.

http://www.3dartist.com/newstd.htm

//Bob


Mindy Bieging wrote:
>
> Ryan Beecher wrote:
> >
> > And it was designing a course with WCS? What issue was it again?
>
> The tutorial is about creating a golf green using Terraffectors in World
> Construction Set.
>
> Issue Number 43.
>
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So far everything everyone is telling me is helping me out tremendously.
Thanks for everyones help. I do have one more question. WCS is good in
giving the 3D look, but does anyone know of any place or company that has
done a animated golf course hole. One of the questions I have is that I know
WCS uses photos of trees for the foliage, but what happens when  you fly by
a 2D photo. Does it trick the eye into thinking it is a full 3 dimensional
tree? Does anyone out there have a avi of a course that they animated using
WCS? I just want to be real positive that this is the program to get for
this particular purpose before I buy it. Do the 2d photos of the trees cast
raytrace shadows on the ground? The movie can have the company's logo on it,
I just want to see what it will look like moving around. All I have found is
stills of the courses. None that move. Does WCS renderer render fast for
scenes like these? I hope to hear from someone soon.

Thanks for everything,
Ryan


-----Original Message-----
From: Robert S Thompson [mailto:rsthomp@...]
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 4:19 PM
To: wcsml@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [WCS] WCS golf course tutorial


Scott's tutorial in 3D ARTIST is on the newstands now. For one, try
Borders, or take a look at other outlets on the 3D ARTIST website.

http://www.3dartist.com/newstd.htm

//Bob


Mindy Bieging wrote:
>
> Ryan Beecher wrote:
> >
> > And it was designing a course with WCS? What issue was it again?
>
> The tutorial is about creating a golf green using Terraffectors in World
> Construction Set.
>
> Issue Number 43.
>
> Mindy
> --
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Ryan Beecher wrote:
> So far everything everyone is telling me is helping me out tremendously.
> Thanks for everyones help. I do have one more question. WCS is good in
> giving the 3D look, but does anyone know of any place or company that has
> done a animated golf course hole. One of the questions I have is that I know
> WCS uses photos of trees for the foliage, but what happens when  you fly by
> a 2D photo. Does it trick the eye into thinking it is a full 3 dimensional
> tree?

Image Object trees always face the camera. They are 3D-shaded based
on lighting so they look three dimensional. They render very fast
and it's easy to create your own custom foliage from any photograph.
Image Object trees generally look fine in flyby animations.

If you fly around a tree, you'll likely notice that it's turning to
face you. In that case you should probably use a 3D object for a
tree.

There are a variety of quicktime animations on the WCS web site.
Click the Animations link on the left to get to that page. Click the
thumbnails to take a look at some of them. There are several
animated golf course shots on the WCS demo tape but I don't think
those animations are on the web site.

Best Regards,
  -Jamie


> Does anyone out there have a avi of a course that they animated using
> WCS? I just want to be real positive that this is the program to get for
> this particular purpose before I buy it. Do the 2d photos of the trees cast
> raytrace shadows on the ground? The movie can have the company's logo on it,
> I just want to see what it will look like moving around. All I have found is
> stills of the courses. None that move. Does WCS renderer render fast for
> scenes like these? I hope to hear from someone soon.
>
> Thanks for everything,
> Ryan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert S Thompson [mailto:rsthomp@...]
> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 4:19 PM
> To: wcsml@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [WCS] WCS golf course tutorial
>
> Scott's tutorial in 3D ARTIST is on the newstands now. For one, try
> Borders, or take a look at other outlets on the 3D ARTIST website.
>
> http://www.3dartist.com/newstd.htm
>
> //Bob
>
> Mindy Bieging wrote:
> >
> > Ryan Beecher wrote:
> > >
> > > And it was designing a course with WCS? What issue was it again?
> >
> > The tutorial is about creating a golf green using Terraffectors in World
> > Construction Set.
> >
> > Issue Number 43.
> >
> > Mindy
> > --
> > Mindy K. Bieging, Sales and Marketing Manager, 3D Nature
> >
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I have looked at the avi's on the site, but I am specifically looking for a
avi or mov. of a golf course. All I seem to find are stills. Does anyone
work for  a company that does these types of animations. I want my
animations to look real as possible.

Thanks,
Ryan


-----Original Message-----
From: Jamie [mailto:Meta@...]
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 5:59 PM
To: wcsml@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [WCS] WCS golf course tutorial



Ryan Beecher wrote:
> So far everything everyone is telling me is helping me out tremendously.
> Thanks for everyones help. I do have one more question. WCS is good in
> giving the 3D look, but does anyone know of any place or company that has
> done a animated golf course hole. One of the questions I have is that I
know
> WCS uses photos of trees for the foliage, but what happens when  you fly
by
> a 2D photo. Does it trick the eye into thinking it is a full 3 dimensional
> tree?

Image Object trees always face the camera. They are 3D-shaded based
on lighting so they look three dimensional. They render very fast
and it's easy to create your own custom foliage from any photograph.
Image Object trees generally look fine in flyby animations.

If you fly around a tree, you'll likely notice that it's turning to
face you. In that case you should probably use a 3D object for a
tree.

There are a variety of quicktime animations on the WCS web site.
Click the Animations link on the left to get to that page. Click the
thumbnails to take a look at some of them. There are several
animated golf course shots on the WCS demo tape but I don't think
those animations are on the web site.

Best Regards,
  -Jamie


> Does anyone out there have a avi of a course that they animated using
> WCS? I just want to be real positive that this is the program to get for
> this particular purpose before I buy it. Do the 2d photos of the trees
cast
> raytrace shadows on the ground? The movie can have the company's logo on
it,
> I just want to see what it will look like moving around. All I have found
is
> stills of the courses. None that move. Does WCS renderer render fast for
> scenes like these? I hope to hear from someone soon.
>
> Thanks for everything,
> Ryan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert S Thompson [mailto:rsthomp@...]
> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 4:19 PM
> To: wcsml@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [WCS] WCS golf course tutorial
>
> Scott's tutorial in 3D ARTIST is on the newstands now. For one, try
> Borders, or take a look at other outlets on the 3D ARTIST website.
>
> http://www.3dartist.com/newstd.htm
>
> //Bob
>
> Mindy Bieging wrote:
> >
> > Ryan Beecher wrote:
> > >
> > > And it was designing a course with WCS? What issue was it again?
> >
> > The tutorial is about creating a golf green using Terraffectors in World
> > Construction Set.
> >
> > Issue Number 43.
> >
> > Mindy
> > --
> > Mindy K. Bieging, Sales and Marketing Manager, 3D Nature
> >
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If you order the CD version of the demo from the web site, the demo
tape animations are on the CD (including golf course animations).

Best Regards,
  -Jamie


Ryan Beecher wrote:
>
> I have looked at the avi's on the site, but I am specifically looking for a
> avi or mov. of a golf course. All I seem to find are stills. Does anyone
> work for  a company that does these types of animations. I want my
> animations to look real as possible.
>
> Thanks,
> Ryan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jamie [mailto:Meta@...]
> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 5:59 PM
> To: wcsml@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [WCS] WCS golf course tutorial
>
> Ryan Beecher wrote:
> > So far everything everyone is telling me is helping me out tremendously.
> > Thanks for everyones help. I do have one more question. WCS is good in
> > giving the 3D look, but does anyone know of any place or company that has
> > done a animated golf course hole. One of the questions I have is that I
> know
> > WCS uses photos of trees for the foliage, but what happens when  you fly
> by
> > a 2D photo. Does it trick the eye into thinking it is a full 3 dimensional
> > tree?
>
> Image Object trees always face the camera. They are 3D-shaded based
> on lighting so they look three dimensional. They render very fast
> and it's easy to create your own custom foliage from any photograph.
> Image Object trees generally look fine in flyby animations.
>
> If you fly around a tree, you'll likely notice that it's turning to
> face you. In that case you should probably use a 3D object for a
> tree.
>
> There are a variety of quicktime animations on the WCS web site.
> Click the Animations link on the left to get to that page. Click the
> thumbnails to take a look at some of them. There are several
> animated golf course shots on the WCS demo tape but I don't think
> those animations are on the web site.
>
> Best Regards,
>  -Jamie
>
> > Does anyone out there have a avi of a course that they animated using
> > WCS? I just want to be real positive that this is the program to get for
> > this particular purpose before I buy it. Do the 2d photos of the trees
> cast
> > raytrace shadows on the ground? The movie can have the company's logo on
> it,
> > I just want to see what it will look like moving around. All I have found
> is
> > stills of the courses. None that move. Does WCS renderer render fast for
> > scenes like these? I hope to hear from someone soon.
> >
> > Thanks for everything,
> > Ryan
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Robert S Thompson [mailto:rsthomp@...]
> > Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 4:19 PM
> > To: wcsml@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [WCS] WCS golf course tutorial
> >
> > Scott's tutorial in 3D ARTIST is on the newstands now. For one, try
> > Borders, or take a look at other outlets on the 3D ARTIST website.
> >
> > http://www.3dartist.com/newstd.htm
> >
> > //Bob
> >
> > Mindy Bieging wrote:
> > >
> > > Ryan Beecher wrote:
> > > >
> > > > And it was designing a course with WCS? What issue was it again?
> > >
> > > The tutorial is about creating a golf green using Terraffectors in World
> > > Construction Set.
> > >
> > > Issue Number 43.
> > >
> > > Mindy
> > > --
> > > Mindy K. Bieging, Sales and Marketing Manager, 3D Nature
> > >
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> I have to be honest and say that 124 Mb Ram isn't really enough
> any more...
> Good news is - it's cheap at the moment, so upgrading your
> resources on that
> front won't cost an arm and a leg :)

Yup, youre right. I tried reinstalling three times. Nothing improved. So Ill
have to purchase a bit of memory it looks like.
And wait for that update. *chuckle*

Thanks for eveyones help. I do hope either the memory or upcoming release
helps.

Is there a way to deselect all objects in the Database window? Just curious!

Martin

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Department of Geography
University of Heidelberg
Germany
mzkea@...

Roundabout way:

In Database, try "Search..." and put in some string that doesn't occur in any of
your
objects (eg, "xx23yy").  This deselects any objects that don't match the search
string, but curiously leaves one of the previously selected objects as the
active
object.  Seems like the DB has to have one of its objects as the "displayed"
(not
necessarily selected or active) object.  This is confirmed by the Layers and
Attached
Components part of the DB.

Just curious:  why do you need to deselect all objects?

Cheers,
Zack

Martin Zeh wrote:

> Is there a way to deselect all objects in the Database window? Just curious!
>
> Martin
>
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Martin Zeh wrote:
>
> Is there a way to deselect all objects in the Database window? Just curious!

Do you mean disable all the objects in the DB?

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http://www.wcs5.com

Scott,

Have you ever been able to deselect all objects from the database so its title
reads
"Database  0 of xx objects selected"?

I am presuming that's the gist of Martin's question...

Cheers,
Zack

Scott Cherba wrote:

> Martin Zeh wrote:
> >
> > Is there a way to deselect all objects in the Database window? Just curious!
>
> Do you mean disable all the objects in the DB?
>
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"James A. Zack" wrote:
>
> Scott,
>
> Have you ever been able to deselect all objects from the database so its title
reads
> "Database  0 of xx objects selected"?
>
> I am presuming that's the gist of Martin's question...

No, Zack, never figured that one out. At the very least the DB always
seems to default to the first item. Have to admit I've never felt the
need ;)

--
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http://www.cherba.com

I just started a new project, and just to get an overview I only loaded two
dozens of DEMs. Everything is deselected, i.e. there's no yellow overlay in
your views, until you open the Database and select one of the DEMs (e.g. to
rename them). From then on you always have one of the DEMs
selected/yellowed, so I created a dummie vector and selected it to get rid
of the yellow.
I know that this project situation (just DEMs) is a bit unusual and I agree
with Scott that I've never felt the need to deselect all items before. As I
said, I was just curious ;)

Thanks anyway

Martin

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Department of Geography
University of Heidelberg
Germany
mzkea@...




"James A. Zack" wrote:
>
> Scott,
>
> Have you ever been able to deselect all objects from the database so its
title reads
> "Database  0 of xx objects selected"?
>
> I am presuming that's the gist of Martin's question...

No, Zack, never figured that one out. At the very least the DB always
seems to default to the first item. Have to admit I've never felt the
need ;)

Martin Zeh wrote:
>
> I just started a new project, and just to get an overview I only loaded two
> dozens of DEMs. Everything is deselected, i.e. there's no yellow overlay in
> your views, until you open the Database and select one of the DEMs (e.g. to
> rename them). From then on you always have one of the DEMs
> selected/yellowed, so I created a dummie vector and selected it to get rid
> of the yellow.
> I know that this project situation (just DEMs) is a bit unusual and I agree
> with Scott that I've never felt the need to deselect all items before. As I
> said, I was just curious ;)

Hi Martin,

As you discovered, the active item shows up in yellow in views. With
DEMs, this comes in very handy when disabling them or figuring out which
one(s) you need to interpolate. Selecting a new item (an existing camera
works well) will deselect the DEM without having to create a new
Component.

Scott

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Thanks!

I haven't thought of that. That't much more convenient indeed.

Martin

---------
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Department of Geography
University of Heidelberg
Germany
mzkea@...

Hello,

I have have an animation that I will post...  It was just a test so the
camera path isn't great...I will need to down sample it for posting to the
web...I will try to have it up on the mailing list file area today.

Scott Williams

Redstone Golf

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From: Jamie [mailto:Meta@...]
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To: wcsml@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [WCS] WCS golf course tutorial



If you order the CD version of the demo from the web site, the demo
tape animations are on the CD (including golf course animations).

Best Regards,
  -Jamie


Ryan Beecher wrote:
>
> I have looked at the avi's on the site, but I am specifically looking for
a
> avi or mov. of a golf course. All I seem to find are stills. Does anyone
> work for  a company that does these types of animations. I want my
> animations to look real as possible.
>
> Thanks,
> Ryan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jamie [mailto:Meta@...]
> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 5:59 PM
> To: wcsml@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [WCS] WCS golf course tutorial
>
> Ryan Beecher wrote:
> > So far everything everyone is telling me is helping me out tremendously.
> > Thanks for everyones help. I do have one more question. WCS is good in
> > giving the 3D look, but does anyone know of any place or company that
has
> > done a animated golf course hole. One of the questions I have is that I
> know
> > WCS uses photos of trees for the foliage, but what happens when  you fly
> by
> > a 2D photo. Does it trick the eye into thinking it is a full 3
dimensional
> > tree?
>
> Image Object trees always face the camera. They are 3D-shaded based
> on lighting so they look three dimensional. They render very fast
> and it's easy to create your own custom foliage from any photograph.
> Image Object trees generally look fine in flyby animations.
>
> If you fly around a tree, you'll likely notice that it's turning to
> face you. In that case you should probably use a 3D object for a
> tree.
>
> There are a variety of quicktime animations on the WCS web site.
> Click the Animations link on the left to get to that page. Click the
> thumbnails to take a look at some of them. There are several
> animated golf course shots on the WCS demo tape but I don't think
> those animations are on the web site.
>
> Best Regards,
>  -Jamie
>
> > Does anyone out there have a avi of a course that they animated using
> > WCS? I just want to be real positive that this is the program to get for
> > this particular purpose before I buy it. Do the 2d photos of the trees
> cast
> > raytrace shadows on the ground? The movie can have the company's logo on
> it,
> > I just want to see what it will look like moving around. All I have
found
> is
> > stills of the courses. None that move. Does WCS renderer render fast for
> > scenes like these? I hope to hear from someone soon.
> >
> > Thanks for everything,
> > Ryan
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Robert S Thompson [mailto:rsthomp@...]
> > Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 4:19 PM
> > To: wcsml@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [WCS] WCS golf course tutorial
> >
> > Scott's tutorial in 3D ARTIST is on the newstands now. For one, try
> > Borders, or take a look at other outlets on the 3D ARTIST website.
> >
> > http://www.3dartist.com/newstd.htm
> >
> > //Bob
> >
> > Mindy Bieging wrote:
> > >
> > > Ryan Beecher wrote:
> > > >
> > > > And it was designing a course with WCS? What issue was it again?
> > >
> > > The tutorial is about creating a golf green using Terraffectors in
World
> > > Construction Set.
> > >
> > > Issue Number 43.
> > >
> > > Mindy
> > > --
> > > Mindy K. Bieging, Sales and Marketing Manager, 3D Nature
> > >
> > >     Mindy@...             (303) 659-4028 x 0
> > >
> > > New! World Construction Set 5 Demo Version - www.3DNature.com
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Thanks Scott. I would really appreciate it.

Ryan Beecher



-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Williams [mailto:scottw@...]
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 9:10 AM
To: 'wcsml@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [WCS] WCS golf course tutorial


Hello,

I have have an animation that I will post...  It was just a test so the
camera path isn't great...I will need to down sample it for posting to the
web...I will try to have it up on the mailing list file area today.

Scott Williams

Redstone Golf

-----Original Message-----
From: Jamie [mailto:Meta@...]
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 5:36 PM
To: wcsml@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [WCS] WCS golf course tutorial



If you order the CD version of the demo from the web site, the demo
tape animations are on the CD (including golf course animations).

Best Regards,
  -Jamie


Ryan Beecher wrote:
>
> I have looked at the avi's on the site, but I am specifically looking for
a
> avi or mov. of a golf course. All I seem to find are stills. Does anyone
> work for  a company that does these types of animations. I want my
> animations to look real as possible.
>
> Thanks,
> Ryan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jamie [mailto:Meta@...]
> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 5:59 PM
> To: wcsml@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [WCS] WCS golf course tutorial
>
> Ryan Beecher wrote:
> > So far everything everyone is telling me is helping me out tremendously.
> > Thanks for everyones help. I do have one more question. WCS is good in
> > giving the 3D look, but does anyone know of any place or company that
has
> > done a animated golf course hole. One of the questions I have is that I
> know
> > WCS uses photos of trees for the foliage, but what happens when  you fly
> by
> > a 2D photo. Does it trick the eye into thinking it is a full 3
dimensional
> > tree?
>
> Image Object trees always face the camera. They are 3D-shaded based
> on lighting so they look three dimensional. They render very fast
> and it's easy to create your own custom foliage from any photograph.
> Image Object trees generally look fine in flyby animations.
>
> If you fly around a tree, you'll likely notice that it's turning to
> face you. In that case you should probably use a 3D object for a
> tree.
>
> There are a variety of quicktime animations on the WCS web site.
> Click the Animations link on the left to get to that page. Click the
> thumbnails to take a look at some of them. There are several
> animated golf course shots on the WCS demo tape but I don't think
> those animations are on the web site.
>
> Best Regards,
>  -Jamie
>
> > Does anyone out there have a avi of a course that they animated using
> > WCS? I just want to be real positive that this is the program to get for
> > this particular purpose before I buy it. Do the 2d photos of the trees
> cast
> > raytrace shadows on the ground? The movie can have the company's logo on
> it,
> > I just want to see what it will look like moving around. All I have
found
> is
> > stills of the courses. None that move. Does WCS renderer render fast for
> > scenes like these? I hope to hear from someone soon.
> >
> > Thanks for everything,
> > Ryan
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Robert S Thompson [mailto:rsthomp@...]
> > Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 4:19 PM
> > To: wcsml@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [WCS] WCS golf course tutorial
> >
> > Scott's tutorial in 3D ARTIST is on the newstands now. For one, try
> > Borders, or take a look at other outlets on the 3D ARTIST website.
> >
> > http://www.3dartist.com/newstd.htm
> >
> > //Bob
> >
> > Mindy Bieging wrote:
> > >
> > > Ryan Beecher wrote:
> > > >
> > > > And it was designing a course with WCS? What issue was it again?
> > >
> > > The tutorial is about creating a golf green using Terraffectors in
World
> > > Construction Set.
> > >
> > > Issue Number 43.
> > >
> > > Mindy
> > > --
> > > Mindy K. Bieging, Sales and Marketing Manager, 3D Nature
> > >
> > >     Mindy@...             (303) 659-4028 x 0
> > >
> > > New! World Construction Set 5 Demo Version - www.3DNature.com
> > >
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> Yup, youre right. I tried reinstalling three times. Nothing improved. So Ill
> have to purchase a bit of memory it looks like.
> And wait for that update. *chuckle*
> Thanks for eveyones help. I do hope either the memory or upcoming release
> helps.

    Don't go out spending money on memory , just to cure these crashes . It
won't . Lack of memory will not make WCS crash .

    However , memory is cheaper than it's ever been , right now , so if you are
looking
to upgrade, now _might_ be a good time . WCS is very memory efficient , and 128
MB's could easily be enough , depending on what your needs are , or what kind
of projects your are creating/rendering .

Garry Curtis
studio@...
  " the universe is mind , with state of mind the vehicle "
http://www.niagara.com/~studio

I have exported a WCS scene to Lightwave along with a vector that I
want to convert to a .lwo path for rail extrusion.  All of the vector
points are imported into LW as a WCSnull motion.  Does anybody know
if there is a Lightwave 5.6 Layout plug-in that will convert a motion
to a path?

thanks

Rick Sullivan

I have exported a WCS scene to Lightwave along with a vector that I
want to convert to a .lwo path for rail extrusion.  All of the vector
points are imported into LW as a WCSnull motion.  Does anybody know
if there is a Lightwave 5.6 Layout plug-in that will convert a motion
to a path?

thanks

Rick Sullivan

Rick,

Prem Subramanyan has coded a replacement for Newtek's original (and buggy)
path to motion plugin. It also caomes with a free motion to path plugin adn
can be found at :
http://www.premdesign.com/ppp.html

Regards

Adam

> -----Original Message-----
> From: rsullivan@... [mailto:rsullivan@...]
> Sent: 05 March 2001 16:50
> To: wcsml@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [WCS] (unknown)
>
>
> I have exported a WCS scene to Lightwave along with a vector that I
> want to convert to a .lwo path for rail extrusion.  All of the vector
> points are imported into LW as a WCSnull motion.  Does anybody know
> if there is a Lightwave 5.6 Layout plug-in that will convert a motion
> to a path?
>
> thanks
>
> Rick Sullivan
>
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Scott Williams wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I have have an animation that I will post...  It was just a test so the
> camera path isn't great...I will need to down sample it for posting to the
> web...I will try to have it up on the mailing list file area today.

Thanks Scott.

Mindy
--
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     Mindy@...             (303) 659-4028 x 0

New! World Construction Set 5 Demo Version - www.3DNature.com

Fredrik,

Are your spikes twice the elevation of the point in the LW model?  If so, you
most
likely have coincident vertices in the LW model.  You'll need to weld these
vertices
into a single vertex prior to import to WCS or you will see the sum of the
elevations
in the gridded DEM.  Welding is a snap (pardon the pun) in 3DS MAX and I presume
it's
just as easy in LW.  I have seen this behavior in non-welded models gridded in
WCS.

Cheers,
Zack

Fredrik Ahl wrote:

> Adam, thank you!
> Now everything worked great, it just took a little while to get the dxf into
> WCS.
> It's no problem to render and to add foilage. The only thing is that the
> mesh is a bit different from my original model.
> It got some very spiky tops, maybe that's a tweak thing I can work on later
> on?
> I haven't tried the other techniques that where mentioned after by James and
> Chris, but I will give them a try tomorrow to see if it helps the spikyness.
>
> Anyways, thank you very much for the great help and for putting so much
> effort in solving this thing for me!
>
> Best regards
>
> Fredrik
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> _________________________________________
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Adam Hauldren" <adam@...>
> To: <wcsml@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 5:56 PM
> Subject: RE: [WCS] Lightwave-wcs
>
> > Actually Chris and Zack, I may have solved this one, but am still waiting
> to
> > hear back from Fredrik as to whether it worked...
> >
> > 1) His model was offset from the origin by 1km south, so in most views it
> > was offscreen when attached to the vector. There was nothing physically
> > wrong with the mesh in the copies sent to me privately.
> >
> > 2) He was not adding any terrain first. His steps only included the
> addition
> > of the vector and 3Dobject. Further to Chris' comments earlier in the
> week,
> > the object won't render unless at least a part of the terrain model to
> which
> > it's controlling vector is attached, is visible to render.
> >
> > BTW Chris - in what way were my original steps "a bit off"
> > I don't believe anything I suggested wouldn't work for a project where the
> > 3DObject was already loaded.
> > To coin one of your phrases, I believe: "there's more than one way to skin
> a
> > cat"
> > Apologies to any (other) cat lovers out there :)
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Adam
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: James A. Zack [mailto:xsp@...]
> > > Sent: 01 March 2001 16:43
> > > To: wcsml@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [WCS] Lightwave-wcs
> > >
> > >
> > > Another thing to check:
> > >
> > > Your 3D object must be a *single mesh*.  In MAX there is a
> > > collapse utility that
> > > takes multiple objects and collapses them to a single object.
> > > I'm sure some similar
> > > utility exists in LW.  You will need to assign a multi material
> > > to the object or it
> > > will have a single material assigned to it.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Zack
> > >
> > > Chris 'Xenon' Hanson wrote:
> > >
> > > > Fredrik Ahl wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Adam
> > > > > Thank you for your help but it seems that the demo is
> > > different then the
> > > > > whole package. It didn't work for me.
> > > >
> > > >    You should have mentioned you were using the demo...
> > > >
> > > > > When I start the program there is no vectors so I have to
> > > create one. I have
> > > > > to name it right away. When trying to rightclick in the
> > > viewport I only get
> > > > > the possible views to select etc. Then I drop the new vector on my
> > > > > 3d-object. I've done this but still can't see anything in the
> > > viewports or
> > > > > when rendering.
> > > >
> > > >    Actually, Adams steps were a bit off.
> > > >
> > > >    If you've already loaded your 3D Object into WCS, and it's
> > > > showing up in the 3D Objects category of the S@G, you can:
> > > >
> > > >    (order is very important here)
> > > >
> > > >    Make sure the Manipulate Camera button is not pressed in.
> > > >
> > > >    Click once on your 3D object in S@G to make it active.
> > > >
> > > >    Make sure the name of the 3D Object component is now visible
> > > > in the text field at the bottom center.
> > > >
> > > >    Click on the 'Create' button on the main (top) toolbar. It
> > > > looks like a pencil drawing a line.
> > > >
> > > >    Click one or more times at locations on your terrain in a
> > > > View (realtime or rendered). You are marking locations for the
> > > > 3D Object.
> > > >
> > > >    Right-click to end the digitizing process.
> > > >
> > > >    Render. One copy of your 3D Object should appear at each
> > > > spot you clicked.
> > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > > Fredrik
> > > >
> > > > Chris - Xenon
> > > > --
> > > >   Chris Hanson | Xenon@... | I've got friends in low
> latitudes!
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Stefan,

The two terraffectors should have the same priority, but the one for the pond
should have a higher evaluation order than the other one.  What evaluation order
values are you using?

Cheers,
Zack

Chris 'Xenon' Hanson wrote:

> Stefan Rutkowski wrote:
>
> >    What exact version of WCS?
> > Version 5.21
>
>    Highly recommended you get 5.34.
>
> >    Are the ATFX set to absolute or relative?
> > absolute elevation (-308) for the levelled terrain (terraffector) and
relative (-5m) for the pond vectors.  I tried it with absolute elevation (-312)
for the pond vectors but it didn't work either!
> > Adam,
> > I had the overlap buttons enabled for both terraffectors
>
>    Everything sounds ok. Conforming vectors is not necessary with
> area terraffectors, as they are never used in a 'relative to vector'
> situation.
>
>    Either way you used it (relative -5m or absolute -312) should work.
>
>    Try it with 5.34 and see if it's anything different. I know we've
> fixed a number of subtle terraffector bugs in the last few months,
> and we continue to test this stuff extensively.
>
> > Stefan
>
> Chris - Xenon
> --
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Shikota,

I've been using ArcView for the past ten years, and WCS since 2.0.  Suffice it
to say
that the interoperability of these two programs is thru file exchange.

ArcView creates/reads/modifies shapefiles which can be imported to WCS along
with
attribute values (as long as they are in decimal degrees or UTM coordinates).

ArcView reads DXF files which can be exported using the Shift+Ctrl+Save DB...
option
in the Database.  These decimal degrees DXFs can be converted to Shapefiles in
ArcView and edited as such for reimport into WCS.

ArcView with the Spatial Analyst can produce ASCII or Binary grids that can be
imported into WCS (provided they are in decimal degrees).

Anything else in particular you need to know?

Cheers,
Zack

nobody wrote:

> Does anyone know of a site that has info on working in
> Arcview and WCS.
> I think it is Scott Cherbas site that has the
> Lightwave/#dStudio and WCS, but not many things
> anywhere on WCS/ARCVIEW.
> anyone.
> shikota          sanchez
>
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Adam,  thanks very much.  I downloaded the plugin and it works like a
charm.



--- In wcsml@y..., "Adam Hauldren" <adam@N...> wrote:
> Rick,
>
> Prem Subramanyan has coded a replacement for Newtek's original (and
buggy)
> path to motion plugin. It also caomes with a free motion to path
plugin adn
> can be found at :
> http://www.premdesign.com/ppp.html
>
> Regards
>
> Adam
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rsullivan@e... [mailto:rsullivan@e...]
> > Sent: 05 March 2001 16:50
> > To: wcsml@y...
> > Subject: [WCS] (unknown)
> >
> >
> > I have exported a WCS scene to Lightwave along with a vector that
I
> > want to convert to a .lwo path for rail extrusion.  All of the
vector
> > points are imported into LW as a WCSnull motion.  Does anybody
know
> > if there is a Lightwave 5.6 Layout plug-in that will convert a
motion
> > to a path?
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > Rick Sullivan
> >
> >
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