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#3771 From: Sara Pipe <sara_im_pipes@...>
Date: Mon May 17, 2010 10:36 am
Subject: Re: webalizer hangs on "History file not found..." message
sara_im_pipes
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Dear Ger,

I also upgraded gd again. But no luck. I have gd-2.0.35 and it is giving the same error.

:(

--- On Mon, 5/17/10, Sara Pipe <sara_im_pipes@...> wrote:

From: Sara Pipe <sara_im_pipes@...>
Subject: Re: [webalizer] webalizer hangs on "History file not found..." message
To: webalizer@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, May 17, 2010, 9:17 AM

 

Hi Ger,

Thanks for your reply.

Do you know which version of gd do I have to install? I have  webalizer-2. 21-02 and libpng-1.2.18.

Thank you,
Sara

--- On Mon, 5/17/10, Ger Hobbelt <ger@hobbelt. com> wrote:

From: Ger Hobbelt <ger@hobbelt. com>
Subject: Re: [webalizer] webalizer hangs on "History file not found..." message
To: webalizer@yahoogrou ps.com
Date: Monday, May 17, 2010, 8:44 AM

 

From the error message, I'd say it looks like webalizer directly or indirectly uses libgd as well (haven';t checked, this is off the cuff) and libgd is complaining. Given that you reported a webalizer source install, the way forward would be to check if libgd is required (most probably, as gd is often used for graphing) and when yes, gd must also be upgraded, alas.


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Ger Hobbelt

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#3772 From: "Bradford L. Barrett" <brad@...>
Date: Mon May 17, 2010 1:37 pm
Subject: Re: webalizer hangs on "History file not found..." message
brad@...
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Recompile the Webalizer against the new version of gd..

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On Mon, 17 May 2010, Sara Pipe wrote:

> Dear Ger,
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#3773 From: Ger Hobbelt <ger@...>
Date: Mon May 17, 2010 7:56 pm
Subject: Re: webalizer hangs on "History file not found..." message
i_a42
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Sara,

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 3:37 PM, Bradford L. Barrett <brad@...> wrote:
  Recompile the Webalizer against the new version of gd..


+1 for above.


One reminder to add here: check the configure script to see which libs are used by webalizer. You probably need to spec --with-gd=<path> and/or --with-png=<path> ./configure args for webalizer so that the configure script 'sees' the correct gd and png libs.

./configure --help
dumps a list of all options, including those --with-xyz=<path> ones.

When you spec --with-gd=, you generally don't need to spec --with-gd-lib and --with-gd-include as those are assumed to be <path>/lib and <path>/include, which is correct 99% of the time, particularly when those libs were built from source as well.

The next bit of trouble then would be making sure the appropriate versions of the shared libs are where they're expected to be.
See

man ldd

for ldd help about showing you which shared libs ( & their versions) are qreuired by your webalizer binary), plus

man ldconfig

for some info about making sure the OS 'knows' about those shared libs you just built and 'make install'ed.


May seem like a lot the first time around, but since you've got trouble, you can either go the static lib route (webalaizer: ./configure --enable-static ) together with --with-gd/png/... or stick to shared libs, but juggling a bit to get the 'right' versions there. I'd opt to try the latter before falling back to the former.



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Ger Hobbelt

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#3774 From: "Voytek Eymont" <voytek@...>
Date: Tue May 18, 2010 12:15 am
Subject: upgrading to 2.2 from 2.0x
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I have webalizer 2.01 on Centos with virtual hosts,
many thanks for this tool.

Noticing as there is a 2.2 version, I d/l and installed 2.2

it all seems fine, the 2.2 installed into /usr/local/bin

is there anything I should do with 2.2 ?

I also d/l GeoDB and flags

do I just move flag images to \icons\ where the other images live ?

I copied GeoDB to
# webalizer -vV
Webalizer V2.21-02 (Linux 2.6.9-55.0.9.EL i686) English
Copyright 1997-2009 by Bradford L. Barrett
Mod date: 13-Jan-2009  Options: DNS/GeoDB
Default GeoDB dir : /usr/share/GeoDB
Default config dir: /usr/local/etc

# ls /usr/share/GeoDB
GeoDB.dat  GEODB.README

is that of use to me, or, is logresolve enough ?


webalizer is called from a script like:

...
logresolve < /home/$i/logs/$DATE-access.log > /home/$i/logs/$DATE-access.rog
...
/usr/local/bin/webalizer -n $i -o /home/$i/www/stats/webalizer
/home/$i/logs/$DATE-access


thanks


--
Voytek

#3775 From: "thewebalizer" <yahoo@...>
Date: Tue May 18, 2010 12:49 am
Subject: Re: upgrading to 2.2 from 2.0x
thewebalizer
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It's basically a drop in replacement.. if you just upgrade, it will continue to
function as it did before and default to the same settings.  If you want to use
the GeoDB database, add the '-j' switch to your script.  If you want to use
country flags, the default location for them is in the 'flags' directory under
whatever directory you are generating output in.. to use them, you must add the
'CountryFlags yes' directive in your configuration file.  If you want to locate
the images someplace other than the default, you can specify where they are with
the 'FlagDir' directive.  See the supplied documentation (README, man page,
sample config file) for additional information.

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--- In webalizer@yahoogroups.com, "Voytek Eymont" <voytek@...> wrote:
>
> I have webalizer 2.01 on Centos with virtual hosts,
> many thanks for this tool.
>
> Noticing as there is a 2.2 version, I d/l and installed 2.2
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> it all seems fine, the 2.2 installed into /usr/local/bin
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> is there anything I should do with 2.2 ?
>
> I also d/l GeoDB and flags
>
> do I just move flag images to \icons\ where the other images live ?
>
> I copied GeoDB to
> # webalizer -vV
> Webalizer V2.21-02 (Linux 2.6.9-55.0.9.EL i686) English
> Copyright 1997-2009 by Bradford L. Barrett
> Mod date: 13-Jan-2009  Options: DNS/GeoDB
> Default GeoDB dir : /usr/share/GeoDB
> Default config dir: /usr/local/etc
>
> # ls /usr/share/GeoDB
> GeoDB.dat  GEODB.README
>
> is that of use to me, or, is logresolve enough ?
>
>
> webalizer is called from a script like:
>
> ...
> logresolve < /home/$i/logs/$DATE-access.log > /home/$i/logs/$DATE-access.rog
> ...
> /usr/local/bin/webalizer -n $i -o /home/$i/www/stats/webalizer
> /home/$i/logs/$DATE-access
>
>
> thanks
>
>
> --
> Voytek
>

#3776 From: "Voytek Eymont" <voytek@...>
Date: Wed May 19, 2010 1:13 am
Subject: Re: Re: upgrading to 2.2 from 2.0x
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<quote who="thewebalizer">

> It's basically a drop in replacement.. if you just upgrade, it will
> continue to function as it did before and default to the same settings.
> If you want to use the GeoDB database, add the '-j' switch to your
> script.  If you want to use country flags, the default location for them
> is in the 'flags' directory under whatever directory you are generating
> output in.. to use them, you must add the 'CountryFlags yes' directive in
> your configuration file.  If you want to locate the images someplace
> other than the default, you can specify where they are with the 'FlagDir'
> directive.  See the supplied documentation (README, man page, sample
> config file) for additional information.

thanks,

all's well
I overlooked that as installed 2.2 was looking at /usr/local/etc for
webalizer.conf. (and, I put correct path for flags, but, forgot to remove
'#' from the line...)



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Voytek

#3777 From: "Voytek Eymont" <voytek@...>
Date: Wed May 19, 2010 1:17 am
Subject: excluding /webmail and /stats
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what is the proper way to exclude or ignore 'service pages' such as
'/webmail' and '/stats' ?




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Voytek

#3778 From: "Voytek Eymont" <voytek@...>
Date: Wed May 19, 2010 1:37 am
Subject: to reprocess, do I just delete hist file ?
voytekeymont
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now that I've installed 2.2, I wanted to reprocess some old logs, I get like:

...
16 records (16 ignored) in 1 seconds, 16/sec
89 records (89 ignored) in 1 seconds, 89/sec
105 records (105 ignored) in 1 seconds, 105/sec

do I just delete webalizer.hist 1st, before reprocessing ?


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Voytek

#3779 From: Sara Pipe <sara_im_pipes@...>
Date: Fri May 21, 2010 3:36 pm
Subject: Re: webalizer hangs on "History file not found..." message
sara_im_pipes
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Thank you for your descriptive message Ger,

I tried: ./configure --enable-geoip --enable-bz2 --with-gd=/usr/lib/libdb-4.4.so --with-z=/usr/local/lib/libz.so.1

and it is complaining that:
.....
checking for main in -lm... no
checking for main in -lz... no
configure: error: z library not found.. please install libz

I have zlib installed. I can not understand why. I even reinstalled zlib & it "sudo make install"ed successfully: chmod 644 /usr/local/include/zlib.h /usr/local/include/zconf.h

Could it be the original problem that:
When I was saying "make" to webalizer, it said:
In file included from /usr/local/include/zlib.h:34,
                 from webalizer.c:44:
/usr/local/include/zconf.h:
    373:6: error: token "=" is not valid in preprocessor expressions
    make: *** [webalizer.o] Error 1

& so I looked into zconf.h and on that line it said:
"
/* a little trick to accommodate both "#define _LARGEFILE64_SOURCE" and
 * "#define _LARGEFILE64_SOURCE 1" as requesting 64-bit operations, (even
 * though the former does not conform to the LFS document), but considering
 * both "#undef _LARGEFILE64_SOURCE" and "#define _LARGEFILE64_SOURCE 0" as
 * equivalently requesting no 64-bit operations
 */
#if -_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE - -1 == 1
#  undef _LARGEFILE64_SOURCE
#endif
"

I did not know what to do, so I commented the whole #if & #endif part out. Then the make ran fine, then I got to the gd version problem.

Do you understand what is going on?
Thanks,
Sara


--- On Mon, 5/17/10, Ger Hobbelt <ger@...> wrote:

From: Ger Hobbelt <ger@...>
Subject: Re: [webalizer] webalizer hangs on "History file not found..." message
To: webalizer@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, May 17, 2010, 7:56 PM

 

Sara,

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 3:37 PM, Bradford L. Barrett <brad@mrunix. net> wrote:
  Recompile the Webalizer against the new version of gd..


+1 for above.


One reminder to add here: check the configure script to see which libs are used by webalizer. You probably need to spec --with-gd=<path> and/or --with-png=<path> ./configure args for webalizer so that the configure script 'sees' the correct gd and png libs.

./configure --help
dumps a list of all options, including those --with-xyz=<path> ones.

When you spec --with-gd=, you generally don't need to spec --with-gd-lib and --with-gd-include as those are assumed to be <path>/lib and <path>/include, which is correct 99% of the time, particularly when those libs were built from source as well.

The next bit of trouble then would be making sure the appropriate versions of the shared libs are where they're expected to be.
See

man ldd

for ldd help about showing you which shared libs ( & their versions) are qreuired by your webalizer binary), plus

man ldconfig

for some info about making sure the OS 'knows' about those shared libs you just built and 'make install'ed.


May seem like a lot the first time around, but since you've got trouble, you can either go the static lib route (webalaizer: ./configure --enable-static ) together with --with-gd/png/ ... or stick to shared libs, but juggling a bit to get the 'right' versions there. I'd opt to try the latter before falling back to the former.



--
Met vriendelijke groeten / Best regards,

Ger Hobbelt

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#3780 From: "gingko_fr" <nospam@...>
Date: Sun May 30, 2010 8:16 am
Subject: Webalizer logging (itself !)
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Hello,

I would like to know if there is any place where Webalizer is logging its
**own** actions, or if there is any mean to have it logging them ?

I sometime have to find debugging problems with Webalizer, and I always spend a
lot of time in doing that, because if for example Webalizer doesn't work because
it is handling a corrupted file, it just stops working without giving any error
message, and it is very difficult to find the reason of the problem.

I looked also about using the "-d" or "-v" options, but these are command line
options which are very hard to add when the actual call to Webalizer is actually
deeply buried inside a Perl script not written by yourself.

Best regards,

Gingko

#3781 From: James Coyle <jamescoyle1@...>
Date: Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:15 am
Subject: Can't open access log
thespis10706
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I recently had to reconfigure my Apache set up, but am at a loss to explain why
I am getting this error in Webalizer:

Jim-Coyles-iMac:~ jimcoyle$ webalizer
Webalizer V2.01-10 (Darwin 10.4.0) English
Error: Can't open log file /private/var/log/httpd/access_log

Is this some sort of new permissions error or????

#3782 From: waldo kitty <wkitty42@...>
Date: Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:44 am
Subject: Re: Can t open access log
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On 8/24/2010 20:15, James Coyle wrote:
> I recently had to reconfigure my Apache set up, but am at a loss to explain
why I am getting this error in Webalizer:
>
> Jim-Coyles-iMac:~ jimcoyle$ webalizer
> Webalizer V2.01-10 (Darwin 10.4.0) English
> Error: Can't open log file /private/var/log/httpd/access_log
>
> Is this some sort of new permissions error or????

i don't know about "new" but it seems like it might be... what are the
permissions on that directory and log file and what are the user and group that
webalizer is running as??

#3783 From: David Siefert <siefert.david@...>
Date: Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:39 pm
Subject: URIs showing up in stats that are not in the log
siefert.david@...
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Hi,

I'm using webalizer to analyze my tomcat access logs (which output in a compatible common apache log formatting).  So far so great.  I found numerous hits to an invalid URI and have since handled this through an apache2 redirect rule.  So I do not expect to see hits to this URI anymore from that day forward.  I am in the next month already and am still seeing access to this URI.  I searched the corresponding log files for the month and cannot find this URI anywhere.  Why is this still showing up in the webalizer report?

Thanks,
David

#3784 From: Charles <ccs@...>
Date: Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:59 pm
Subject: URIs showing up in stats that are not in the log
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Hello David;
 
You didn't say *where* you put the redirect rule -- if placed in one of Apache's .conf files (I have "httpd.conf" plus "vhost_xxx.conf" for all of my vhost) you need to restart Apache for it to take effect.
 
Charles...
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Ninety-Ninety Rule of Project Schedules: The first 90% of a project takes the 1st 90% of the time. The remaining 10% of a project takes the OTHER 90% of the time.

#3785 From: David Siefert <siefert.david@...>
Date: Thu Nov 11, 2010 12:19 am
Subject: Re: URIs showing up in stats that are not in the log
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The redirect rule is in effect.  I cannot find references to the incorrect URI anywhere in the logs that webalizer reports on.
For instance, the invalid uri "/help-me" cannot be found in access.log.2010-11-01, but can be found in access.log.2010-10-31.  Webalizer still reports in November that the "/help-me" URI was a top-URL, but should only show up in the October reports.

-David

On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Charles <ccs@...> wrote:
 

Hello David;
 
You didn't say *where* you put the redirect rule -- if placed in one of Apache's .conf files (I have "httpd.conf" plus "vhost_xxx.conf" for all of my vhost) you need to restart Apache for it to take effect.
 
Charles...
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Ninety-Ninety Rule of Project Schedules: The first 90% of a project takes the 1st 90% of the time. The remaining 10% of a project takes the OTHER 90% of the time.



#3786 From: Charles <ccs@...>
Date: Thu Nov 11, 2010 5:01 am
Subject: Re: URIs showing up in stats that are not in the log
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Hmmm... well without examining your log files, apache config file(s), and webalizer config file, I don't have any other advice. Sorry.
 
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#3787 From: "WesM" <gldnegale@...>
Date: Thu Nov 11, 2010 3:03 pm
Subject: Dump problem
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I can't get dumps to run - everything else is working great - but dumps refuse
to be generated. Here is my .conf:

OutputDir      /var/www/html/rep-stats
Incremental yes

PageType htm*
PageType cgi
PageType php

CountryGraph no
IndexMonths 24
GraphMonths 24

TopSites        0
TopKSites       0
TopURLs         1500
TopKURLs        20
TopReferrers    0
#TopAgents       0
TopCountries    0
TopEntry        0
TopExit         0
TopSearch       0
#TopUsers        20
AllURLs        yes

HideURL  *.gif
HideURL  *.GIF
HideURL  *.jpg
HideURL  *.JPG
HideURL  *.png
HideURL  *.PNG
HideURL  *.ra
HideURL  *.css
HideURL  *.js
HideURL         /image/*

MangleAgents    1

DumpHeader yes
DumpExtension csv
DumpURLs yes

Any ideas?  This system is running Fedora and Apache.

#3789 From: "traylenator" <steve.traylen@...>
Date: Thu May 12, 2011 2:16 pm
Subject: GroupDomains but strip short host names.
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Hi

The current groupdomains paramaters works like

GroupDomains 1

would group

alpha.site.org.uk
beta.site.org.uk
gamma.this.org.uk
delta.this.org.uk
eta.other.com
theta.other.com

into two groups

org.uk
and
other.com

I would really like to be able to group by actual domain name i.e with
out the short hostname. i.e. into groups

site.org.uk
this.org.uk
other.com

I reliase it can be done for explicit domain names that I mention but I see no
way of doing it genrally.

Essentially it would be

GroupDomains -1

Is there a way to achieve this?

Steve.

#3790 From: Clair Culliford <clairculliford@...>
Date: Sun May 22, 2011 1:53 pm
Subject: 3 Questions
clairculliford
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Webalizer Group:

I’ve set up Webalizer for my new online newspaper, http://parkdalenews.com.

I’ve gone through the documentation but can’t find the answers to three questions. Then again, I’m not a technical wiz and may have missed the answers.

Can someone tell me where I’d find the answers to these questions?

1. Can I exclude my own visits to http://parkdalenews.com?

2. Can I see the results in formats other than the standard graph and chart format?

3. Can I remove all the current stats, so webalizer only starts with on a certain date?

Thanks for any help you can give me. 

Clair Culliford



Clair Culliford  *  http://www.theambler.net  *  416-534-9139



#3791 From: "glenn_gagne" <glenn_gagne@...>
Date: Sun Jun 26, 2011 5:49 pm
Subject: HTMLTail displayed twice...
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Hi,

I have a weird problem that I don't understand. I added a HTMLTail option in
webalizer.conf file and when I generate it, I obtain this link twice in the
webpage at the right bottom.

Do you know if it's a knowned bug in Webalizer ?

This is the code I added:

# HTMLTail defines the HTML code to insert at the bottom of each
# HTML document, usually to include a link back to your home page.
HTMLTail <a href="index.html" target="_self">Return to site</a>

#3792 From: "glenn_gagne" <glenn_gagne@...>
Date: Sun Jun 26, 2011 5:58 pm
Subject: Re: HTMLTail displayed twice...
glenn_gagne
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NOTE: I run Webalizer on Debian 4.1.2 in the cron.daily job with the default
options set.

In the past (many years ago) I used Red Hat 7.3 and I never see this problem.

#3793 From: "Bradford L. Barrett" <brad@...>
Date: Mon Jun 27, 2011 2:45 am
Subject: Re: HTMLTail displayed twice...
brad@...
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Sounds like you are having your config file read twice.. are you
doing something like "-c webalizer.conf" on the command line when
you run the program?

If so, don't :)   See the webalizer FAQ (question #11)

--

On Sun, 26 Jun 2011, glenn_gagne wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have a weird problem that I don't understand. I added a HTMLTail
> option in webalizer.conf file and when I generate it, I obtain this
> link twice in the webpage at the right bottom.
>
> Do you know if it's a knowned bug in Webalizer ?
>
> This is the code I added:
>
> # HTMLTail defines the HTML code to insert at the bottom of each
> # HTML document, usually to include a link back to your home page.
> HTMLTail <a href="index.html" target="_self">Return to site</a>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Webalizer homepage: http://www.webalizer.org
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

#3794 From: "glenn_gagne" <glenn_gagne@...>
Date: Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:33 am
Subject: Re: HTMLTail displayed twice...
glenn_gagne
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You're right !

I analyzed the /etc/cron.daily/webalizer file and it call something like:
webalizer -c all_conf_files_in_webalizer_folder -Q

Then I modified the script file to call simply webalizer -Q and it work fine !!!

Thank you

--------------

P.S. Weird that default Debian setting decided to call the default
webalizer.conf file and scan all conf files in /etc/webalizer folder too.



This problem is solved for me now !

#3795 From: "rupertttt" <rupertt@...>
Date: Tue Aug 9, 2011 8:51 am
Subject: creating webstats from different logfiles/host
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Hello,

i need to create some statistics for the past 6 Months.
I have a bunch of apache accesslogs which are namen like
access_log-20110110, access_log-20110111 and so on.

How can I geht webalizer to process all these files and create stats for the
months?

I tried different configfile where each has one logfile in it,
but it created onyl the august stats.
than I try to run on commandlince with the -p option and i also only got august.

than I joined all my logfiles with the logfilemerger from the readme, but i
still only got august.

I already spent hours on this.
What is the proper way to analyse multiple logfiles?


thnx

#3796 From: "tankman67" <stargate@...>
Date: Mon Aug 15, 2011 11:06 pm
Subject: IndexAlias
tankman67
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I'm running into an issue with Webalizer after upgrading to Gallery3. It seems
Gallery3 places index.php in between the domain and the directory structure of
the website.  For example, www.domain.com/index.php/2011/summervaction/

As a result, Webalizer is stripping the "index." and everything after. This
makes the stats read as if every single request is for /

I see in the configuration file where I can add additional IndexAlias
definitions but there doesn't appear to be away to exclude "index."  Does anyone
know if this is possible?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions!

Dallas

#3797 From: "Bradford L. Barrett" <brad@...>
Date: Tue Aug 16, 2011 2:07 am
Subject: Re: IndexAlias
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Try using:

DefaultIndex  no


in your config file..

Here is the relevant bit from the README file:

DefaultIndex  This option is used to enable/disable the use of "index." as
                a default index name to be stripped from the end of a URL.
                Most sites should not need to use this option, however some
                may find it useful, particularly those whose default index
                file name is something different, or those sites that use
                'index.php' or similar URLs to generate dynamic content.
                This option does not effect any of the names that may be
                defined using the IndexAlias option, and those names will
                still function as described.  Values may be 'yes' or 'no',
                with 'yes' being the default.

--

On Mon, 15 Aug 2011, tankman67 wrote:

> I'm running into an issue with Webalizer after upgrading to Gallery3.
> It seems Gallery3 places index.php in between the domain and the
> directory structure of the website.  For example,
> www.domain.com/index.php/2011/summervaction/
>
> As a result, Webalizer is stripping the "index." and everything after.
> This makes the stats read as if every single request is for /
>
> I see in the configuration file where I can add additional IndexAlias
> definitions but there doesn't appear to be away to exclude "index."
> Does anyone know if this is possible?
>

--
Bradford L. Barrett                      brad@...
A free electron in a sea of neutrons     DoD#1750 KD4NAW

The only thing Micro$oft has done for society, is make people
believe that computers are inherently unreliable.

#3798 From: "tankman67" <stargate@...>
Date: Tue Aug 16, 2011 1:27 pm
Subject: Re: IndexAlias
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Thanks for the reply Bradford.  I'll provide a little more detail.  I installed
Webalizer with apt-get on my Debian system.  This installed version 2.01.  I
checked the README located in /usr/share/doc/webalizer and did some Googling -
which I try to do to prevent asking stupid questions - but didn't see this
option.

I took your advice however, but received the following output:
Warning: Invalid keyword 'DefaultIndex' (/etc/webalizer/webalizer.conf)

I see the README file at ftp://ftp.mrunix.net/pub/webalizer/README (which
appears to be for version 2.23-05) DOES contain this option.

I will try upgrading my Webalizer version and test.  Thanks again for pointing
me in the right direction here.

Dallas

--- In webalizer@yahoogroups.com, "Bradford L. Barrett" <brad@...> wrote:
>
>
> Try using:
>
> DefaultIndex  no
>
>
> in your config file..
>
> Here is the relevant bit from the README file:
>
> DefaultIndex  This option is used to enable/disable the use of "index." as
>                a default index name to be stripped from the end of a URL.
>                Most sites should not need to use this option, however some
>                may find it useful, particularly those whose default index
>                file name is something different, or those sites that use
>                'index.php' or similar URLs to generate dynamic content.
>                This option does not effect any of the names that may be
>                defined using the IndexAlias option, and those names will
>                still function as described.  Values may be 'yes' or 'no',
>                with 'yes' being the default.
>
> --
>
> On Mon, 15 Aug 2011, tankman67 wrote:
>
> > I'm running into an issue with Webalizer after upgrading to Gallery3.
> > It seems Gallery3 places index.php in between the domain and the
> > directory structure of the website.  For example,
> > www.domain.com/index.php/2011/summervaction/
> >
> > As a result, Webalizer is stripping the "index." and everything after.
> > This makes the stats read as if every single request is for /
> >
> > I see in the configuration file where I can add additional IndexAlias
> > definitions but there doesn't appear to be away to exclude "index."
> > Does anyone know if this is possible?
> >
>
> --
> Bradford L. Barrett                      brad@...
> A free electron in a sea of neutrons     DoD#1750 KD4NAW
>
> The only thing Micro$oft has done for society, is make people
> believe that computers are inherently unreliable.
>

#3799 From: "csz_stl@..." <csz_stl@...>
Date: Sat Oct 15, 2011 10:35 pm
Subject: Overcoming limitations of Web stats
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All Website access statistics, whether produced by Webalizer or some other
package, suffer from at least one important limitation - they don't distinguish
between access requests from humans and those from Web crawlers (good or bad). 
That's not a problem if you're just looking at capacity management issues, but
it's a huge problem if you want to learn about which parts of your Website are
valuable to your human visitors.

I think I've figured out a way to overcome that limitation (mostly), so I'm
writing to y'all to lay out my ideas, report progress, and ask for comments. 
And the process of writing this will help to clarify what I'm thinking.

The raw data contains no explicit indication of what caused each access attempt,
but it does contain clues from which useful information can be deduced.  After
looking at raw data several different ways, I've come up with what I hope is a
useful approach, based on agent-id.

The basic approach is to use those clues to make a best guess as to which agents
are used by humans and which are bots.  Then use that distinction to split each
access log into two or three parts (human, bot, and maybe indeterminate). 
Finally, use Webalizer to re-analyze whichever part(s) I/we find interesting.

So what are the clues?

1.  Anything that requests "favicon.ico" is most probably a browser used by a
human, while anything that requests "robots.txt" is almost certainly a bot.  A
tiny number of agents ask for both, and a large number ask for neither, so those
are indeterminate at this point.  I've written an analysis program, which
provided the following figures from our first full month of operation:
- nearly 93000 access requests
- from just over 1700 agents
- of which 540 occurred only once
- leaving 1170 reasonably analyzable
- of which over 700 requested favicon.ico
- - - and over 100 requested robots.txt
- - - (though 10 requested both)
- - - leaving over 300 requesting neither

2.  An agent which is only seen once in a month is most probably a bot,
especially if its ID looks like a random string of characters.  (See above for
counts.)

3.  Some access requests identify a referrer [typically misspelled "referer" in
server documentation], but most do not.  It seems likely that those which do
probably come from humans, but this clue requires further investigation.  At the
moment all I can say is that our first month's data shows that about 30% of
requests come from referrals, and about 2/3 of those are from our own Website.

4.  Successful requests for items contained in a password-protected directory
must come from humans.

5.  Requests for items which were never on our Website (e.g., PHP files - YMMV)
must indicate hacker intrusion attempts, which probably would be carried out by
robots.

Further programming is required to investigate these clues more deeply and to
make use of the results.  Meanwhile ...

Questions?  Comments?  Suggestions?

(and does anyone have a Webalizer binary for Mac OS X - any version?)

Carl Scott Zimmerman

#3800 From: "samjpeters" <lucretiaborgia360@...>
Date: Thu Dec 8, 2011 7:52 pm
Subject: New server gives different results
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Hi,
I joined to see if anyone can help me with a strange problem.
I'm sysadmin at a hosting and web marketing company. Several of our customers
have had their sites moved from one server to a new one to upgrade. The
webalizer stats show some marked differences in data reported between the two,
most notably the Pages and Visits results, which have been reduced by up to 75%.
The config and data have been checked and are identical between the two servers,
so what can it be doing differently?
Can anyone help please?

Thanks very much.
Sam Gyseman.

#3801 From: Richard Lohman <richardjlohman@...>
Date: Mon Dec 12, 2011 5:45 pm
Subject: Any tips on migrating to a new host
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All:

I have a CentOS 5.2 box running my website, using webalizer to track stats. I am
provisioning a new CentOS 6 box to house the site. Migration of the website,
database, etc. is pretty straight forward. I am a little nervous about moving
webalizer logs over. Has anyone done this before? Any tips you can offer to
insure a smooth transition (and preservation of log data)?

The CentOS 5 box is running webalizer v. 2.01-10
The CentOS 6 box is running webalizer v. 2.21-02

Thanks in advance.
Rich Lohman

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