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Hello Group:

What is the difference between a visitor and a visit?

Robert Shields
Director of Instructional Technology/Webmaster
California Baptist University
Toll-Free: 1-800-782-3382, ext. 4504
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A University Committed to the Great Commission



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Hello Group: What is the difference between a visitor and a visit? Robert Shields Director of Instructional Technology/Webmaster California Baptist University ...
Robert Shields
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Apr 2, 2007
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A VISITOR is the actual end-user (person) that visits the site. A VISIT is the length of time that the visitor stays on the site, often referred to as a...
Adam Berlinger
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Apr 2, 2007
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... is ... to as ... ?days...I am the VISITOR, my VISIT session is 3 days. I hope this helps. You were doing great until you used the word "session." Since we...
Evans, Tim
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Apr 2, 2007
6:26 pm

OK - I'll bite - what's the difference between a visit and a session? ... Emetrics Summit, The Big Picture http://www.emetrics.org Optimizing Online Marketing...
Jim Sterne
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Apr 2, 2007
9:37 pm

Hi Jim & Tim & all! could we say a "visit" is from the user perspective, while a "session" is exactly the same thing? :) Seriously, what if we considered the...
Stephane Hamel
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Apr 2, 2007
10:49 pm

I'd actually say it is almost exactly the opposite. A visit is a user's interaction with your website with no single period of inactivity of greater than 30...
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Apr 3, 2007
2:32 am

Just to enter my 2p's worth: If you are talking to an IT person, sessions last as long as you have your browser open because they are often based on sessional...
alec_cochrane
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Apr 3, 2007
3:21 pm

I would digress on M.Cochrane statement about the session handling: - The session cookie will "die" when you close your browser. - The session cookie will be...
Stephane Hamel
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Apr 3, 2007
11:42 pm

... I really like that. It falls into my plans for convincing the businesses of the world that all of this stuff is only truly useful if used to be more...
Jim Sterne
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Apr 3, 2007
2:33 am

I, like most on this list will automatically say that there is no difference between a visit and a session as the terms are effectively used interchangeably in...
Rod Jacka
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Apr 2, 2007
10:51 pm

Okay -- so when I first approved the original post, I confess to thinking, "What a simple question -- everybody knows the answer to this one!" Turns out I was...
Wandering Dave Rhee
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Apr 3, 2007
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It's been a while since we had such an interesting thread! Can I quote you? "Everybody knows the answer, it's just that everyone's answer is different" :) ...
Stephane Hamel
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Apr 3, 2007
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I just finished the UBC/WAA program, and received my final grade tonight. I'm done! We were told that we were the 3rd class through, which makes it especially...
Jeff Young
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Congratulations Jeff! Well done and I'm so glad and you are definitely unique. Three cheers. ... Emetrics Summit, The Big Picture http://www.emetrics.org ...
Jim Sterne
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Apr 3, 2007
11:41 pm

Hi, Stephane, Sure -- quote away! :-) Good points about "uses" and "usages" being equatable (is that even a word?) to conversions, events, and so on. But...
Wandering Dave Rhee
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Apr 3, 2007
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I think what you think is very close to what I think :) You are right: the event is atomic. It's measured as a single step (maybe part of a more complex...
Stephane Hamel
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Apr 3, 2007
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A quick underlying review of the technology. Web analytics numbers are based on web server log files. Whether these are the specific log files generated by...
Brendan Butterworth
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Apr 4, 2007
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Brendan- Thanks for your excellent post. I guess what I have been trying to figure out lately is how to make that guess work more efficient. Since most web...
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Nice post Brendan, Absolutely agree with "unique" being redundant in "unique visitor". Don't know how many people here do analysis from web server logs (I do)....
Inder Singh
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Apr 8, 2007
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Inder- I know there are problems with using referrer, that is why I am still trying to work this through. As far as your example - since we now have a standard...
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I expect that the vast majority of web analytics tools are still using standard web server log files, and that the adventurous ones may be recording something...
Brendan Butterworth
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Apr 10, 2007
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Great posts Brendan! ... eg mod_log_sql - seems pretty quick etc. Logs to a mysql DB. I've personally seen mysql handle amazingly busy websites as a backend...
Steve
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Apr 10, 2007
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Thanks much, ... My point is that, whether recording to log files or recording to a database, the data is generally recorded sequentially, without modifying...
Brendan Butterworth
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Apr 11, 2007
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Dave, I believe you can already set up tracking to capture the metrics you mentioned. In Omniture you can set up one evar "User Type" 1 = visit 1+Usage = Visit...
duchess_the_jane
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Apr 3, 2007
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Thanks duchess_the_jane! (How should I address you properly? ;-) ) I'll definitely look into that -- I already use a number of evars and s.props for various...
Wandering Dave Rhee
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Apr 3, 2007
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Duchess or Jane Duchess of Denver is fine, anything but plain old Jane. j/k a nickname I picked up in my web designer hay-day. (How should I address you...
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Apr 3, 2007
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A visit is a sequence of interactions between a visitor and a service (e.g. a site) where the service has the uninterrupted attention of the visitor. A session...
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Apr 3, 2007
3:21 pm

No disagreement with any of the previous respondents, but I've always preferred to explain the difference in terms people already know and love. A visitor...
Steve
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Apr 3, 2007
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I agree strongly with you on this - There is not necessarily a need to get into all the detailed points of the definitions with all members of the business....
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