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If you haven't already; please consider working with Coremetrics :),
Omni, Webtrends or Unica.

Each has different value propositions, but in the end... who wants
to report in a board or investor meeting... or even to your
supervisors, that you can't quite give visibility.

The answer of "at least its free", won't cut it.

Best,
S. Crockett-

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Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 3:35 AM

Subject: Google Alert - google analytics

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Google News Alert for: google analytics



Google Analytics Admits Errors, Data Loss
<http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2008/05/14/google-analytics-
admits-errors-data-loss>

WebProNews - Lexington,KY,USA

Yet following an admission that Google Analytics experienced errors
for most of a week and permanently lost some data, users are taking
the news rather well ...

See all stories on this topic <http://news.google.com/news?
hl=en&ncl=http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2008/05/14/google-
analytics-admits-errors-data-loss>
Thu May 15, 2008 5:32 pm

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If you haven't already; please consider working with Coremetrics :), Omni, Webtrends or Unica. Each has different value propositions, but in the end... who... 		pbokan
Offline Send Email 		May 15, 2008
7:34 pm

No, but the answer, "our analytics tool had an issue that is being rectified as we speak, though some of the data may be permanently skewed for one week"...
ALEX BRASIL
alexbrasil489
Offline Send Email 		May 15, 2008
8:27 pm

Desperate, hardly. As you will note, I included all the premium vendors. So long as everyone is comfortible opting in their valuable business information for...
pbokan
Offline Send Email 		May 15, 2008
8:49 pm

Not necessarily disagreeing with you, but your tone suggests an agenda that's going to set satisfied GA users off a little bit. Will ... -- * William Devlin* ...
William Devlin
wad0509
Offline Send Email 		May 15, 2008
9:02 pm

"I've said it before, there was a gift delivered to the people of Sparta in the form of a wooden horse... and it was free also." Is this type of paranoia...
Jared Huber
huber_jared
Offline Send Email 		May 16, 2008
5:21 am

*cough* Troy, not Sparta Sent from my iPhone ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
Julien Coquet
julien.coquet
Offline Send Email 		May 16, 2008
9:54 am

Thankfully it is not common, and in this case it's FUD aimed at promoting paid for products. It's sad really in that, as I intimated before, paid products...
alexbrasil489
Offline Send Email 		May 16, 2008
10:04 am

the wooden horse was given to the people of troy who lost the trojan war. odysseus came up with the idea and after the war, he got lost on a 10 year odyssey....
mbchoe
Offline Send Email 		May 17, 2008
8:21 am

Odysseus then jumped out of the horse, yelling "This is Spartaaaaaaaaa!" He then realized he was really king of Ithaca and he was making a fool of himself. ...
Julien Coquet
julien.coquet
Offline Send Email 		May 17, 2008
8:50 am

Love the passion, people. The Sparta comment was a little human error on my part; apologies, crow to eat. Human error is a given, statistical variance is a...
pbokan
Offline Send Email 		May 18, 2008
11:46 am

HAHAHAHHAHAHahahahahahahahahha! And therein lies a proper risk analysis??? Or more accurately a perfect example of a strawman argument! 1 week's trouble and...
Steve McInerney
steve.mcinerney@...
Send Email 		May 16, 2008
5:22 am

Mmm how about this:- The board of directors has asked you to come in and explain the loss of data. Here are a few key questions that that might pop-up. 1. What...
Marcos Richardson
marcos.richardson@...
Send Email 		May 16, 2008
9:55 am

GA in no sane world requires a technical individual full time. The basic tagging is a trivial exercise, and if the site in question uses CSS in a non-half...
ALEX BRASIL
alexbrasil489
Offline Send Email 		May 16, 2008
3:39 pm

Alex, You realize that your comments could be equally be applied to ANY analytics vendor. There is nothing particular to SiteCatalyst, Hitbox, etc. that make...
Jim
mega9tron
Offline Send Email 		May 16, 2008
6:45 pm

My apologies if this discussion is annoying anyone else (I by no means wish to spam this list). Jim I was merely countering the argument that GA requires a...
ALEX BRASIL
alexbrasil489
Offline Send Email 		May 16, 2008
10:15 pm

... with the ... some minor ... vendor? Don't need to name which one, but I'm curious. No, I definitely don't work for a vendor. I work on behalf of clients ...
Jim
mega9tron
Offline Send Email 		May 17, 2008
5:31 am

what ad-hoc statistical analysis are you referring to? i haven't seen this in any web analytic application, GA or otherwise... most of the integration...
mbchoe
Offline Send Email 		May 17, 2008
8:21 am

... Certainly! But is this WANT or NEED? There is a difference. If NEED, then if you don't have ANY ONE of the above, you're stuck twiddling your thumbs...
Steve McInerney
steve.mcinerney@...
Send Email 		May 17, 2008
8:49 am

Jim, thank you for that list, I was unaware of a number of them, and while I don't think any of them come even close to meriting the label of "toy", I'll grant...
ALEX BRASIL
alexbrasil489
Offline Send Email 		May 17, 2008
3:12 pm

That's a great list Jim. I just wanted to correct you on some of your points wrt to Google Analytics... ... I have to say that GA was not built for statistical...
Brian Clifton
brian_clifto...
Offline Send Email 		May 18, 2008
6:16 pm

Alex and Steve, I agree with you guys, 100%. Here is an actual conversation between two techies, one is an insider, the other an outsider: - So, you are guys...
Coskun Tasoluk
coskun_tasoluk
Offline Send Email 		May 17, 2008
5:32 am

On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 7:03 PM, Marcos Richardson ... I'd immediately be resigning. Any board of directors that is so focused on micromanaging is not a place...
Steve McInerney
steve.mcinerney@...
Send Email 		May 17, 2008
8:22 am

Fascinating! This whole conversation is fascinating! I haven't seen such a heated discussion in a very long while, especially in a forum about web analytics....
Stephane Hamel
shamel67
Offline Send Email 		May 17, 2008
3:13 pm

Marcos - we had the discussion about ABCe last year, so I am surprised you bring this up again. For those who missed it, here is a reference link: ...
Brian Clifton
brian_clifto...
Offline Send Email 		May 18, 2008
12:46 pm

Hi Brian, We did not discuss, you presumed! So, in reply to your post and blog. 1.) It is an audit of compliance to industry-agreed standards, and it does ...
Marcos Richardson
marcos.richardson@...
Send Email 		May 21, 2008
10:20 am

S, In front of the board? What board...? If You'r using GA then you'r prob an SME, You'r Web Analytics is not business critical for SCM or eCRM, so the data...
Gareth Hebbron
garethhebbron
Offline Send Email 		May 20, 2008
4:32 pm

... Potability? You GA fanboys keep saying it's the greatest thing since sliced bread, and now you claim I can drink it along with that bread? I'll admit it's...
Jim
mega9tron
Offline Send Email 		May 20, 2008
9:01 pm

Oups. potability... by which I mean possibility. However a google brand beverage would be interesting, I imagine it would taste smiler to red bull or jolt. Fan...
Gareth Hebbron
garethhebbron
Offline Send Email 		May 22, 2008
1:42 pm

Oh dear, I think the point here should be that I've seen people get better data from GA implementations than Omniture or Webtrends etc. It isn't the tool - its...
Craig Sullivan
wa_liveboy
Offline Send Email 		May 21, 2008
10:44 am
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