alexbrasil489,

Just as an FYI I got your joke and agree with you. Never like to hear
"well, I do X on the internet" either.

John O'Farrell
Senior Interactive Strategist
Addison


--- In webanalytics@yahoogroups.com, "alexbrasil489" <alexbrasil@...>
wrote:
>
> Hailong, I apologize-- I was not laughing at you at all and everything
> you said was right. By Hippo, I mean the term "highest paid person's
> opinion", which means that instead of using data and analysis, as we
> all do here, an individual who does not get it will simply state the
> right way.
>
> When you said an all flash site was evidently flawed in some way, I
> was laughing because, while it is evident to you and I, it is not so
> evident to the Hippos I deal with.
>
> For reference, Hippo is a play on words, as it also refers to the
> Hippopotamus animal.
>
> Hope that clears it up.
> --- In webanalytics@yahoogroups.com, "Hailong Xia" <hailong.xia@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Maybe I would say something that make you laugh before getting a
> headache :
> > I'm sorry but I just can't understand your message due to my poor
> English;-(
> > And Hippos, you are talking about the CMS?
> >
> > After all, I want to complete my phrase with "The limits of Flash
> only site
> > are evident *for SEO*".
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 1:11 PM, alexbrasil489 <alexbrasil@> wrote:
> >
> > > Evident you say? You sir, have not battled the neighborhood
friendly
> > > Hippos enough, and for that, feel blessed. For me, Flash is the
> > > epitome of evil, a blight on this land that needs to be eradicated.
> > >
> > > It feeds the Hippos, it nurtures them and allows them to wander the
> > > World Wide Jungle with impunity, biding their time beneath the water
> > > just waiting to strike well reasoned arguments and data down with
> > > their language, Hippospeak. Blood curdling phrases such as "when I
> > > browse the web I do X", and "people don't want X, they want Y",
> > > without consulting anything to form their opinion or, even, better,
> > > directly contradicting it are fed by the religion of Flash, and make
> > > no mistake, this is a religion of evil doers.
> > >
> > > I have done battle with these Hippos, and struggled as it is. This
> > > announcement is like giving Goliath a device that happens to counter
> > > slings.
> > >
> > > --- In webanalytics@yahoogroups.com
<webanalytics%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > "Hailong Xia" <hailong.xia@>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > The limits of Flash only site are evident. The benefit of this
> > > improvement
> > > > is, for the SEOer, another source of traffic and another workshop;
> > > for the
> > > > welfare of Internet, more resources would be easily accessible.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 9:17 AM, Sean Carlos <sean@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Actually what Google has announced is significant
improvements to
> > > > > their ability to extract information, specifically text and
links,
> > > > > from Flash objects. They already crawled and extracted
information
> > > > > from Flash only sites - this is nothing new (Ref [1])!
> > > > >
> > > > > Before site architects and designers rush off to develop Flash
> only
> > > > > websites, they should still consider:
> > > > >
> > > > > * Flash only websites are missing the full semantic richness
> various
> > > > > html tags provide Search Engines for the indexing and ranking
> process.
> > > > > Flash is a poor substitute to html.
> > > > >
> > > > > * Flash only websites don't usually provide unique URLs for
> different
> > > > > site "pages", necessary for bookmarking, sharing links, inbound
> > > > > linking, detailed web analytics tracking....
> > > > >
> > > > > * Flash sites are almost always slower to load - the browser
> has to
> > > > > load the flash player (or worse, ask that it be installed),
> then load
> > > > > the entire site or section of site contained in the flash
object.
> > > > >
> > > > > A more detailed description of the problems inherent in Flash
> can be
> > > > > found in footnote [2].
> > > > >
> > > > > I've seen designers worth their salt perform wonders with
standard
> > > > > html and css. Flash, except in rare cases, no thanks.
> > > > >
> > > > > - Sean Carlos
> > > > >
> > > > > --------
> > > > > [1] Optimizing Flash for Search Engines
> > > > > http://searchenginewatch.com/showPage.html?page=2161851
> > > > >
> > > > > [2] 7 Top Problems using Flash in Website Development
> > > > > http://www.antezeta.com/flash-problems.html
> > > > > (also in Italian: http://www.antezeta.it/problemi-flash.html )
> > > > >
> > > > > __________________________________________________
> > > > > Antezeta Internet Marketing
> > > > >
> > > > > Tel: +39 02 69 000 333 Eng: www.antezeta.com
> > > > > Skype: sean-carlos Ita: www.antezeta.it
> > > > >
> > > > > Blog: www.antezeta.it/blog
> > > > > www.antezeta.com/blog
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In webanalytics@yahoogroups.com
> <webanalytics%40yahoogroups.com><webanalytics%
> > > 40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > > > Praveen kumar <praveen_vee@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It has been announced that Google and Yahoo will start
crawling
> > > FLASH.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
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