Hi Alex, thanks for your explication of "Hippo", honestly I really spent
much time to look for its meaning ;-). I'm glad to learn another 'true'
English word, hehehe.

Continue our discussion about Flash site. Maybe we could use Flash in
another way. As we all known, Flash is unfriendly element to SE, then why
don't we put the contents that degrade the seo effort on a Flash file? I
mean we can use flash to increase the key word density, to reduce the out
links, or to simplify the source code of our web page.

Just an idea, maybe in some special situations this could help with
something.



On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 10:11 PM, alexbrasil489 <alexbrasil@...>
wrote:

> Hailong, I apologize-- I was not laughing at you at all and everything
> you said was right. By Hippo, I mean the term "highest paid person's
> opinion", which means that instead of using data and analysis, as we
> all do here, an individual who does not get it will simply state the
> right way.
>
> When you said an all flash site was evidently flawed in some way, I
> was laughing because, while it is evident to you and I, it is not so
> evident to the Hippos I deal with.
>
> For reference, Hippo is a play on words, as it also refers to the
> Hippopotamus animal.
>
> Hope that clears it up.
> --- In webanalytics@yahoogroups.com <webanalytics%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "Hailong Xia" <hailong.xia@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Maybe I would say something that make you laugh before getting a
> headache :
> > I'm sorry but I just can't understand your message due to my poor
> English;-(
> > And Hippos, you are talking about the CMS?
> >
> > After all, I want to complete my phrase with "The limits of Flash
> only site
> > are evident *for SEO*".
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 1:11 PM, alexbrasil489 <alexbrasil@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Evident you say? You sir, have not battled the neighborhood friendly
> > > Hippos enough, and for that, feel blessed. For me, Flash is the
> > > epitome of evil, a blight on this land that needs to be eradicated.
> > >
> > > It feeds the Hippos, it nurtures them and allows them to wander the
> > > World Wide Jungle with impunity, biding their time beneath the water
> > > just waiting to strike well reasoned arguments and data down with
> > > their language, Hippospeak. Blood curdling phrases such as "when I
> > > browse the web I do X", and "people don't want X, they want Y",
> > > without consulting anything to form their opinion or, even, better,
> > > directly contradicting it are fed by the religion of Flash, and make
> > > no mistake, this is a religion of evil doers.
> > >
> > > I have done battle with these Hippos, and struggled as it is. This
> > > announcement is like giving Goliath a device that happens to counter
> > > slings.
> > >
> > > --- In webanalytics@yahoogroups.com
<webanalytics%40yahoogroups.com><webanalytics%
> 40yahoogroups.com>,
>
> > > "Hailong Xia" <hailong.xia@>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > The limits of Flash only site are evident. The benefit of this
> > > improvement
> > > > is, for the SEOer, another source of traffic and another workshop;
> > > for the
> > > > welfare of Internet, more resources would be easily accessible.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 9:17 AM, Sean Carlos <sean@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Actually what Google has announced is significant improvements to
> > > > > their ability to extract information, specifically text and links,
> > > > > from Flash objects. They already crawled and extracted information
> > > > > from Flash only sites - this is nothing new (Ref [1])!
> > > > >
> > > > > Before site architects and designers rush off to develop Flash
> only
> > > > > websites, they should still consider:
> > > > >
> > > > > * Flash only websites are missing the full semantic richness
> various
> > > > > html tags provide Search Engines for the indexing and ranking
> process.
> > > > > Flash is a poor substitute to html.
> > > > >
> > > > > * Flash only websites don't usually provide unique URLs for
> different
> > > > > site "pages", necessary for bookmarking, sharing links, inbound
> > > > > linking, detailed web analytics tracking....
> > > > >
> > > > > * Flash sites are almost always slower to load - the browser
> has to
> > > > > load the flash player (or worse, ask that it be installed),
> then load
> > > > > the entire site or section of site contained in the flash object.
> > > > >
> > > > > A more detailed description of the problems inherent in Flash
> can be
> > > > > found in footnote [2].
> > > > >
> > > > > I've seen designers worth their salt perform wonders with standard
> > > > > html and css. Flash, except in rare cases, no thanks.
> > > > >
> > > > > - Sean Carlos
> > > > >
> > > > > --------
> > > > > [1] Optimizing Flash for Search Engines
> > > > > http://searchenginewatch.com/showPage.html?page=2161851
> > > > >
> > > > > [2] 7 Top Problems using Flash in Website Development
> > > > > http://www.antezeta.com/flash-problems.html
> > > > > (also in Italian: http://www.antezeta.it/problemi-flash.html )
> > > > >
> > > > > __________________________________________________
> > > > > Antezeta Internet Marketing
> > > > >
> > > > > Tel: +39 02 69 000 333 Eng: www.antezeta.com
> > > > > Skype: sean-carlos Ita: www.antezeta.it
> > > > >
> > > > > Blog: www.antezeta.it/blog
> > > > > www.antezeta.com/blog
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In webanalytics@yahoogroups.com<webanalytics%40yahoogroups.com>
> <webanalytics%40yahoogroups.com><webanalytics%
> > > 40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > > > Praveen kumar <praveen_vee@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It has been announced that Google and Yahoo will start crawling
> > > FLASH.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
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