Hi! I am researching options for website analyis for a site I'm working
on. We are currently using Urchin v5.7.03 using log file analysis (no
cookies, etc; using IP + User Agent as a tracking method). I want to
build a case to make the switch to page tagging and am now collecting
evidence that will help show that the benefits of a more accurate
solution will outweigh the cost and time of implementing the tags.
1) The site targets the Chinese market.
2) Most of the pages are .aspx with flash elements within the pages.
3) It is a marketing/business site business model, not online commerce.
Any thoughts? I know there are some accuracy issues with tracking flash
using log files but don't know them specifically. Thanks!
Hi! I am researching options for website analyis for a site I'm working on. We are currently using Urchin v5.7.03 using log file analysis (no cookies, etc;...
hey maureen, i think one of the biggest benefits of using a page tagging methodology is getting rid of most spider/bot activity as well as being able to...
Hi Maureen, In addition to the point below, switching to a page tagging data collection methodology will bring quite a bit more to the table for your client....
There are certainly many advantages of page tagging, but I don't think most of the reasons mentioned so far are among them. 1) Using cookies instead of...
Go ASP. Ensuring access to the latest version is easier. Check: http://www.ga-experts.co.uk/web-data-sources.pdf Lars [Non-text portions of this message have...
Sorry Stephen I dissagree with you on 2)... I really see little value in looking a robot activity other than the comfort factor of knowing that they are...
... I disagree :-) Robot activity is very easy to identify and remove. Moderately time consuming I'll grant, but not at all hard. The flip side, if you don't ...
Like `GA Experts' I too disagree with Stephen, we actively filter out Bots, Crawlers etc. based on known bot host address (IP's) and user agent descriptions,...
... No, that's not the only advantage of logfile-based systems. Here are some more I can think of immediately: 1) They measure bot activity. We've talked about...
Has it come to this? Really? THIS group of all places, we actually have a debate of whether page tags or logs are "better"? What next? Is somebody going to...
Apologies for the long delay in replying to this great discussion! ... If you can't get that right, you've got bigger problems than analysis accuracy. :-) The...
Hi-- I'll add this to several posts on this topic: My company has worked with lots of organizations that use either log file analysis or tagging (sometimes...
Wow! Maureen, I'll bet you didn't realize that your question would start a virtual slugfest between page taggers and log analyzers :-) This has been a fun...
While data collection methods are critical to consider, whether packet sniffing, page tagging, log file analysis, the more important question to ask is what's...
You are all absolutely nuts in my book if you think page tags adquately exclude bots and spiders. That's vendor-speak and just simple disinformation. Is...
Hi. There is quite intensive discussion about web data collecting methods. What is the most important thing, I think, is to deploy cookies to your site, at...
Steve, Good post. And you deserve a virtual "aussie, aussie, aussie." Anyone who challenges that logs have no place in web analytics is simply and totally...
At the Emetrics Summit in 2004, Matthew Berk, who had Eric's Jupiter job before Eric, and was then at Tommy Hilfiger ... said..... Sometimes it's massively...
... And because we *all* love regular expressions in this forum, it might just be worthwhile pointing out that "GREP" stands for: Global. Regular Expression....
... I *thought* that was a little JCL under your finger nails. ... Emetrics Summit, The Big Picture http://www.emetrics.org Optimizing Online Marketing Value ...
Good Morning, Although this is a web analytics forum, I was hoping someone could point me in the right direction. I'm looking for some "VALID" research on ...
Steve, Agreed, but dollars for dollars, where is there a better ROI? For instance, if we get X clicks through PPC for a particular keyword, would we get 2X, 3X...
Curt, I am not an SEO specialist. However the idea of free traffic and free conversions seems natural to me. Having more content on your site gives the...
Miles, Thanks for the contact. My question back to you would be - Is SEO really free? I mean when you factor in the cost to develop a page, submit it to the...
Curt, Yes, Over the Long Term (1+ year) you will get a much better return. (IMO) I have found that when starting a natural rankings campaign it is best to ...
Curt, "Free" is a very subjective term. I dont think anything is free, but work done today and using tactics like link baiting and social search, could...
The ROI answers to these questions (probably to any question really) vary greatly depending on the situation of the company. For instance, I might have a huge,...
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