Ecuador

Rabbi Marvin Tokayer

Intensified attention to the subject took place in the 17th century in England. It was all due to the writings of Manasseh Ben Israel, an Amsterdam Rabbi, who convinced Oliver Cromwell to allow the Jews to Return to England after their banishment from that country four centuries previously. Intensified attention to the subject took place in the 17th century in England. It was all due to the writings of Manasseh Ben Israel, an Amsterdam Rabbi, who convinced Oliver Cromwell to allow the Jews to Return to England after their banishment from that country four centuries previously.. Manasseh was fully convinced of the authenticity of the Sambatyon legend. He wrote in his book that all think that the Ten Tribes dwelled beyond this Sabbatical river. He cites many authorities in support of his belief including the statement of Josephus that Titus himself had seen the river. Later on, after his meetings with a remarkable missionary, the Marrano Jew (Jew who was forced to convert to Christianity in Spain and Portugal), Antonio de Montezinus, he became fully convinced that the American Indians constituted some of the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel. Manasseh heard a very remarkable thing from Montezinus that in 1642 when Montezinus was deep into the mountainous wilderness of Ecuador, he met with four Indians who greeted him with "Shema Israel" which is the traditional creed of Israelites beginning with "Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one!" (Deuteronomy 6:4). He claimed that he spoke with them in Hebrew and claimed they were from the Lost Tribe of Reuben and Levi. Through the conversation with Montezinus, Rabbi Manase Ben Israel was convinced that the American Indians were from several tribes of the Lost Tribes of Israel. He wrote on Dec. 23, 1649, in a letter to John Drury, the Puritan divine, "I think the Ten Tribes lived not only there in America, but also in other lands scattered everywhere, these never did come back to the second temple, and they keep to this day still the Jewish religion seeing that all the prophecies which speak of the bringing back into their native soil must be fulfilled." Menorah Was Found in South America As for the Indians in South America and the Lost Tribes of Israel, there was an interesting article in a newspaper published in Israel (Maariv, Dec 31, 1974) as follows: In 1587, a Jesuit Nicholas Delttsu was sent to South America by the king of Spain to convert the Indians. In Argentina, he found a tribe with Hebrew names, Abraham, David, Moshe, etc.. When he asked them if they were circumcised, they answered, "Yes, just as our ancestors." In the same area were found knives of stone used for circumcision. Sharpened stone knives are cited in the Bible as used for circumcision. Of equal interest is the recent find of a tribe in Argentina related to the Incas of Peru. On a stone tablet were found 3 commandments - "Do not steal." "Do not lie." and "Do not murder." Scholars concluded that these commandments come from the Ten Commandments of Moses but existed hundreds of years before the Spaniards arrived. And in 1974 in the same area, round stones were found with Hebrew Menorah (candlestick with 7 arms of ancient Israel) on the stone, and on the side is written in Aramaic, Pascha (Passover). Aramaic is an ancient language which ancient Israelites used and this itself means very old. A few meters away was found a long stone in the shape of a brick with an engraving of a boat (the emblem of Zevulun is ship) with the word Tzipora (the same name as the wife of Moses and one of names of Israelites. The name of the ship?) written on it. Does this mean that they came here on boat? Scholars believe it is 3000 years old.

From: Cheryl Huerta <chuerta_1@...>
Subject: Re: [what-the-bleep-the-movie] We Are ONE
To: what-the-bleep-the-movie@yahoogroups.com
Received: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 3:03 PM

I don't think Aaron that honoring nature/animals is worshipping exactly.  The North American Indians so not worship animals but they do connect to them in a very close manner by using the ways of the different animals in their prayers/dances and their way of life. 

 

Hugs,

Cher
 

Those who dance are considered insane

by those who can't hear the music.

                                             Kirk Nugent

 

 

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From: Aaron Benjamin Frimer <song_of_redemption7 2@...>
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Cc: aaronbenjamin@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 11:17:00 PM
Subject: Re: [what-the-bleep- the-movie] We Are ONE

B"H     Hi Cheryl, in Judaism we do not worship animals however there is some usage of animal symbolism in relation to the 12 tribes of Israel. * The full blessing of Jacob to Benjamin reads: Benjamin is a preying wolf: In the morning he shall eat booty, and in the evening he shall divide the spoils. Rashi, quoting the sages, interprets "in the morning he shall eat booty" to refer to the "morning" or "rise" of the Jewish kingdom, the kingdom of Saul. "And in the evening he shall divide the spoils" is interpreted to refer to the story of Mordechai and Esther--from the tribe of Benjamin--who divided the spoils of Haman at the "evening" or "descent" of the Biblical epic of Jewish monarchy. The blessing of Benjamin clearly links the image of the wolf with the turning points of the daily cycle--morning and evening. Above, we saw that the "companion" of the wolf, ze'ev, is the raven, orev. The Hebrew root of the name orev means "evening," as in the phrase, repeated as the conclusion of each of the six days of creation: "and there was evening, and there was morning..."- -the original phrase in the Torah in which evening and morning are juxtaposed. The raven is called orev for it is as black as the evening. In the Scriptures, we find the idiom "evening wolves," a clear allusion to the relationship of the wolf to the raven: http://www.inner. org/healing/ healing33. htm * love and light, Aaron Na Nach Nachma Nachman MeUman Yechi Adoneinu Moreinu VeRabbeinu Melech HaMoshiach LeOlam VaEd!   --- On Mon, 6/22/09, Cheryl Huerta <chuerta_1@yahoo. com> wrote: From: Cheryl Huerta <chuerta_1@yahoo. com> Subject: Re: [what-the-bleep- the-movie] We Are ONE To: what-the-bleep- the-movie@ yahoogroups. com Received: Monday, June 22, 2009, 3:45 PM Aaron,   I can't speak for Hinduism but I can tell you that the native Indians of the U.S. and I'm sure many other tribal cultures around the world, worship or maybe a better word would be 'honor' all nature.  The U.S. Indians have many 'spirits' that are represented by the animal itself and even believe that we each have an animal spirit guide.   A Human Being has a great deal to gain by 'honoring' nature and animals.  It is because so many have converted to other religions like Judiasm, Christianity and Islaam that we are today in the environmental shape that we are on this planet.  We no longer honor what we 'take' from the planet and we take out of greed not necessity.  The idea that 'God' made/gave all of this to us to use and use and use and use as we see fit is harming our planet.  I am much more in tune with the idea that we are all ONE...rocks, water, plants, soil, animals, humans alike and that nothing is here for the unfettered use of another without dire consequences.   A North American Native Indian, and I'm sure many other native cultures are the same, would never kill something unless it was necessary to eat to survive and then it would waste nothing.  When they kill they ask whatever they kill, or the spirit of what they've killed, for forgiveness. ..they honor it.  I don't see such a vast difference between honoring and worshipping really and can honestly see how it could evolve into a part of a religion.   Hugs, Cher   Those who dance are considered insane by those who can't hear the music.                                              Kirk Nugent     From: Aaron Benjamin Frimer <song_of_redemption7 2@...> To: what-the-bleep- the-movie@ yahoogroups. com Cc: aaronbenjamin@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 11:36:12 AM Subject: Re: [what-the-bleep- the-movie] We Are ONE B"H     Shalom Prasad, I don't know if I am understanding you well here.  What would a Human Being have to gain by worshipping an animal G*d forbid?  Why not worship G*d Who created the animals? love and light, Aaron Na Nach Nachma Nachman MeUman Yechi Adoneinu Moreinu VeRabbeinu Melech HaMoshiach LeOlam VaEd! --- On Sun, 6/21/09, Prasad <joytruthlove. aum@gmail. com> wrote: From: Prasad <joytruthlove. aum@gmail. com> Subject: Re: [what-the-bleep- the-movie] We Are ONE To: what-the-bleep- the-movie@ yahoogroups. com Received: Sunday, June 21, 2009, 9:15 AM Hindus don't have an problem with idolatry, my friend. It is not looked down upon in Hinduism. The issues with idols and their purpose has been completely clarified and reconciled with the Formless All Pervading, All Knowing Pure Being-ness of God for thousands of years now. I am sure " The Lord of Thieves" has absolutely nothing to do with idolatry.  Moreover, it is not the Hindu belief that the physical world is "impure" or "unholy". It is in-fact the holiest of holies. The human birth is completely treasured (it is in fact considered to be much more important than being in an angelic body) and so are many many trees and animals. In fact each of our God/Goddess has a animal-vehicle which is also worshiped in context of the God/Goddess Himself/Herself.  Each of our temples has an Temple-tree attached to its premises which is again worshiped and maintained as a deity in itself. Up until the 1950s, temples also used to have huge groves which were associated to them and considered to be sacred.  Love and Light. ---- On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Aaron Benjamin Frimer <song_of_redemption7 2@...> wrote: b"H     Hi Prasad, it makes sense to me that idolatry may be referred to as being like theft, since it seems to me that idolatry is about channeling divinity that originally belonged in the realm of holiness and purity, into the realm of impurity and the sitra achra "other side." love and light, Aaron http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/AaronBenja min/ Na Nach Nachma Nachman MeUman Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr!

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