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David would have been very interested in CERN's Large Hadron Collider
that goes online tomorrow. What holds the universe together? What role
does gravity play? Why is it that gravity and dark-matter are so
closely linked? How can this energy be harnessed? Why is every galaxy
driven by an unseen energy? He knew that a black hole was at the
center of every galaxy and the rotation was caused by something more
than just gravity. David asked questions like these all the time. He
was certain that everything points to the unseen energy that he tried
to tap into using something visible and tangible, such as the
whirlpool. If Whirlpower is not the answer and solution, it should
point us in the right direction. Since none have proven his theory,
nor have any disproved it, the theory continues to merit a closer
look. David was not always able to articulate what it was that he
envisioned, at least not in the terminology commonly used by
physicists. It is rather appropriate that he described his vision, the
existence of  an unseen energy that can be harnessed, in the form of a
symmetrically simple yet beautiful whirlpool. There is more at work
than gravity in David Dennard's Whirlpower Theory.

In peace,
Dhub

Side note, check out these links
CERN website and the Large Hadron Collider:
http://lhc.web.cern.ch/lhc/

Very cool video on youtube, The Hadron Rap:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6aU-wFSqt0

Well, I for one am still here.
I joined this group when I was maybe 14-15, and now I'm a student in college...I
don't know if I quite have the technical expertise to construct anything close,
but It seems like something that should be done.

If I ever have the money or the fame in my career as a writer, I'll certainly
attempt to get it built. But that may be a long time in the coming.

---- dhubcal <netpoet@...> wrote:
> David Dennard passed away jusy over seven years ago, and I still see
> references to his theory in various works, journals and forums. Yet, no
> one seems to have built a model whirlpool. Some have taken this idea,
> reworded it and claimed it for their own. That's fine, as long as
> someone does something. David gave his ideas away freely for the good
> of all.
> peace,
> Dhub
>

David Dennard passed away jusy over seven years ago, and I still see
references to his theory in various works, journals and forums. Yet, no
one seems to have built a model whirlpool. Some have taken this idea,
reworded it and claimed it for their own. That's fine, as long as
someone does something. David gave his ideas away freely for the good
of all.
peace,
Dhub

Hey Benji!

Sure I remember you. It's been about 8 years? Thanks for remembering
David and sharing those memories. David's life was indeed cut short and
he had so much more to offer. He was a giant and we hardly noticed him.
Best regards to Jeannette.
In peace and light,
Dhub

this message is actually to dave hubbard.
i don`t know if you remeber me [benji] but dave dennard stayed at my
sisters house.jeanett in dixon cali.i met you when i was hangin at
sis`s for a summer.
  i had thought of dave over the years and hoped to see him again,but
lifes path just hadn`t led back to dixon again.dave was probably one of
the most amazing guys i`ve ever had the pleasure to meet and converse
with.
  i remember the dreams of indian maidens,feathered back packs and
holding a vortex in his hand.i remember how he made me realise
everything spins but the also wobbles.when i think of all the inventions
he showed me [won`t list them here they were dave`s]
i feel it`s a shame that dave never reached his full potential because
mostly funds.anyway i`m writing to let you know that i feel for you
brother
and hope all is well.i will miss him greatly .there`s a whole in my
heart!!!!!!!!!
                                         lovin you
                                   benji bard [bng brd]

don't worry, I'm open minded, (I've spent 9-10 years hot on the trail of the
holy grail, but that is another story). I just like to be in possesion of all
the facts before I go to the north pole and into the world below...it is
obviously a dangerous journey and I need to make sure I'm trusting myself to an
individual who knows what he's doing:
I have three practical problems with your explaination...and three logistical
problems for our hypothetical expedition.

1) You still haven't accounted for the mass of the earth. It would be a lot less
if the thing was hollow, and its quite easy to discern the mass of the earth
with some simple astronomy: there are three ways around it: A) An interior sun,
B) a much, much, much denser crust, or C) A massive, worldwide conspiracy to
misinform the public about how mass is calculated. Is it one of these three or
are we dealing with something else altogather?

2) You can use sonar imaging to determine the density and compositions of
substances within the earth. While you can't quite see ALL the way down, these
show overwhelmingly that the earth is pretty solid, so, how do we explain this:
A) A bug or mathematical error in all sonograms the world over       B) A
massive worldwide conspiracy to forge sonograms.

3)  A practical problem: How deep is the earths crust in this hollow earth? are
we talking 10 kilometers, or 100? Methinks it would be easier to simply dig,
especially since this "Polar Mouth" at the top of the world seems so darn hard
to find. Similarly, if it's only a few paltry kilometers thick, where does all
that magma come from? How do shifts in the earths magnetic field occur?

okay...now, assuming we actually do this expedition, I have some logistical
problems:

I) You claim that the gravity on the interior is maintained by centrifuge...by
the math i've got in front of me, the speed and size of the earth make for an
interior centrifuge with gravity much, much lower than earth normal. How are we
going to prepair for this?

II) Does the central world have an interior sun? if so, from where does it draw
its power?  Will we need to bring flashlights? Or will it be perpetually bright
(as the sun doesn't set), so we'll need to bring sunglasses and sunscreen?

III) These denizines of the interior world...they don't seem to be too fond of
us? They clearly speak english, but don't worry, me and my friends are fluent in
swahili, latin, two dilects of chinese, and dutch. My question is: Will we be
greeted as explorers from the new world, or will they kill us for trespassing?

the speed the earth rotates around it's axis, and the diameter of its axis,
isn't near enough to supply earth/normal gravity in a centrifuge...obviously,
our expedition needs to be prepaired for gravity far below earth-normal

---- luclg00 <luclg00@...> wrote:
> -
> If you ignore the admiral byrd adventure who he would like cross the
> north pole to go from Alaska to Groenland via north pole, instead he
> follow the earth surface at 4000 metres altitude and instead to find
> the Groenland after 3800 miles, he come in a very temperate area with
> mamoth and high grass were there no map show these areas.
>
> He were intercepted by several UFO and meet one leader of the empty earth.
>
> The messagefrom him to admiral  was please stop nuclear experimentions
> inside the earth crust. If not we will destryed you, because  we get
> crack and the magma will come to us and we are not ready for
> evacuation of durst and fire as on the earth surface can be  easly done.
> But any autorities as well USA  Russian French or english governments
> want to stop , but now they understand the risk and also the climat
> disorders who is  consequence of the nuclear experimentation under earth.
>
> If you want try in your atmosphere you can also destroyed  the
> atmosperic equilibre.
>
> I think the stories of  travels's Guliver is not a story for children,
> but a true story inside the earth.
>
> Concerning the story of Jules verne,( trip under the earth) it don't
> talk about the big hole in the north pole, but only some special
> tunnels used as exit or entrance hidden from inside the earth to
> ouside ( our world)
>  Apesantor why Because the force from our side in centifugal and
> inside centripete.they keep the objet glued aginst their floor.
>
> I think I reply to your questions and if you are so suspicious because
> you have not make seriuoly investigations, because there are lot of
> censure about this tabu subject.
>
> If you have more question ask them  to me and I will be glad to answer it.
>
> LUC
>
>
> -- In whirlpower@yahoogroups.com, <spindle01@...> wrote:
> >
> > while I'm all for some verne-esque quest to the north pole, I'm
> thinking that the "Hollow Earth" hypothesis has some inherant
> flaws...namely that numerous polar expeditions have failed to locate
> the "600 Kilometer" hole you described...also, the mass, density, and
> distribution of metals throughout the
> > earth pretty exactly, using simple math.
> > Also, you'd get a bit more attention if you actually preformed a
> spell check on your outgoing emails...
> >
> > Your assignment is:
> > 1: Explain how whirlpower could possibly relate to this
> > 2: Come up with a way to explain the mass of the earth, and a
> plausable reason why no polar expedition has located the passage to
> the interior
> > 3: Spellcheck
> >
> > Return it to me within a month, and I'll see what I can do about
> your trip to the poles.
> >
> >
> > ---- luclg00 <luclg00@...> wrote:
> > > I think the whirlpower has a real relationship with the internal sun
> > > of our earth.
> > > The enter is in Northe pole the large one 600 kilometres diameter and
> > > in south poloe only 5 kilometre diamter.
> > > We would organize the travel with peoples want see to believe, because
> > > never blieve if you don't see.
> > > Large organisation is looking for volonters who have scinetist  or
> > > amator scinetist packaging.
> > > Awaiting an urgent reply from any one interested
> > > LUC
> > >
> >
>
>

-
If you ignore the admiral byrd adventure who he would like cross the
north pole to go from Alaska to Groenland via north pole, instead he
follow the earth surface at 4000 metres altitude and instead to find
the Groenland after 3800 miles, he come in a very temperate area with
mamoth and high grass were there no map show these areas.

He were intercepted by several UFO and meet one leader of the empty earth.

The messagefrom him to admiral  was please stop nuclear experimentions
inside the earth crust. If not we will destryed you, because  we get
crack and the magma will come to us and we are not ready for
evacuation of durst and fire as on the earth surface can be  easly done.
But any autorities as well USA  Russian French or english governments
want to stop , but now they understand the risk and also the climat
disorders who is  consequence of the nuclear experimentation under earth.

If you want try in your atmosphere you can also destroyed  the
atmosperic equilibre.

I think the stories of  travels's Guliver is not a story for children,
but a true story inside the earth.

Concerning the story of Jules verne,( trip under the earth) it don't
talk about the big hole in the north pole, but only some special
tunnels used as exit or entrance hidden from inside the earth to
ouside ( our world)
  Apesantor why Because the force from our side in centifugal and
inside centripete.they keep the objet glued aginst their floor.

I think I reply to your questions and if you are so suspicious because
you have not make seriuoly investigations, because there are lot of
censure about this tabu subject.

If you have more question ask them  to me and I will be glad to answer it.

LUC


-- In whirlpower@yahoogroups.com, <spindle01@...> wrote:
>
> while I'm all for some verne-esque quest to the north pole, I'm
thinking that the "Hollow Earth" hypothesis has some inherant
flaws...namely that numerous polar expeditions have failed to locate
the "600 Kilometer" hole you described...also, the mass, density, and
distribution of metals throughout the
> earth pretty exactly, using simple math.
> Also, you'd get a bit more attention if you actually preformed a
spell check on your outgoing emails...
>
> Your assignment is:
> 1: Explain how whirlpower could possibly relate to this
> 2: Come up with a way to explain the mass of the earth, and a
plausable reason why no polar expedition has located the passage to
the interior
> 3: Spellcheck
>
> Return it to me within a month, and I'll see what I can do about
your trip to the poles.
>
>
> ---- luclg00 <luclg00@...> wrote:
> > I think the whirlpower has a real relationship with the internal sun
> > of our earth.
> > The enter is in Northe pole the large one 600 kilometres diameter and
> > in south poloe only 5 kilometre diamter.
> > We would organize the travel with peoples want see to believe, because
> > never blieve if you don't see.
> > Large organisation is looking for volonters who have scinetist  or
> > amator scinetist packaging.
> > Awaiting an urgent reply from any one interested
> > LUC
> >
>

--- In whirlpower@yahoogroups.com, "luclg00" <luclg00@...> wrote:
>
> I think the whirlpower has a real relationship with the internal sun
> of our earth.
> The entrance is in Northe pole the large one has  600 kilometres
diameter and
> in south pole only 5 kilometres diameter.
> We would organize the travel with peoples want see  and not to
believe, because
> never believe if you don't see.
> Large organisation is looking for volonters who have scientist  or
> amator scinetist packaging.
> Awaiting an urgent reply from any one interested
> LUC
>

while I'm all for some verne-esque quest to the north pole, I'm thinking that
the "Hollow Earth" hypothesis has some inherant flaws...namely that numerous
polar expeditions have failed to locate the "600 Kilometer" hole you
described...also, the mass, density, and distribution of metals throughout the
earth pretty exactly, using simple math.
Also, you'd get a bit more attention if you actually preformed a spell check on
your outgoing emails...

Your assignment is:
1: Explain how whirlpower could possibly relate to this
2: Come up with a way to explain the mass of the earth, and a plausable reason
why no polar expedition has located the passage to the interior
3: Spellcheck

Return it to me within a month, and I'll see what I can do about your trip to
the poles.


---- luclg00 <luclg00@...> wrote:
> I think the whirlpower has a real relationship with the internal sun
> of our earth.
> The enter is in Northe pole the large one 600 kilometres diameter and
> in south poloe only 5 kilometre diamter.
> We would organize the travel with peoples want see to believe, because
> never blieve if you don't see.
> Large organisation is looking for volonters who have scinetist  or
> amator scinetist packaging.
> Awaiting an urgent reply from any one interested
> LUC
>

I think the whirlpower has a real relationship with the internal sun
of our earth.
The enter is in Northe pole the large one 600 kilometres diameter and
in south poloe only 5 kilometre diamter.
We would organize the travel with peoples want see to believe, because
never blieve if you don't see.
Large organisation is looking for volonters who have scinetist  or
amator scinetist packaging.
Awaiting an urgent reply from any one interested
LUC

you could try the rotoverter, which is power savings and overunity.
have fun!
http://panacea-bocaf.org/RotoVerter.htm
http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Rotoverter

also one could ge tinto the viktor schauberger Klimator and
viktorschauberger jet-turbine..
http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Jet-Turbine
http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Klimator
these are all vortex related, as viktor schauberger always is.
hope these help.
enjoy!


On 31 Jan 2007 12:05:10 -0000, whirlpower@yahoogroups.com <
whirlpower@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>   Whirlpower
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Hi Waterfireho,

Check out the Steorn web site
http://www.steorn.net/frontpage/default.aspx?p=1
<http://www.steorn.net/frontpage/default.aspx?p=1>  for the best info on
permanent magnet motors. At least they have made their motor available to
the Scientific Experts to validate their claims unlike the majority of the
claims to date. There is a lot of info about what they are doing on their
own site but check out the Beta-Atmosphere group on Yahoo Groups for some in
depth discussions on their claims.

Be aware that there are so many bogus claims to "perpetual motion" that I
would strongly suggest you leave your money in your pocket regarding
anything on this subject on the www.

I am not saying there is anything bogus about the claims made just be
careful.

Regards,

John.

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From: whirlpower@yahoogroups.com [mailto:whirlpower@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of waterfireho
Sent: Wednesday, 31 January 2007 2:55 AM
To: whirlpower@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [whirlpower list] Re: Free Perpetual Energy



If anyone is still here I would like to see this too.

--- In whirlpower@yahoogro <mailto:whirlpower%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com,
"please3mta32002"
<please3mta32002@...> wrote:
>
> --- In whirlpower@yahoogro <mailto:whirlpower%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com,
"jan_p_cack" <jan_p_cack@y...>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I have designed a Perpetual Motor with perm. magnets. Very simple
> > and stable. Full details FREE for anyone interested. Thanx Jan P.
> > Cack
> >
>
> I'm also interested in receiving your details on the Perpetual Motor.
> email: please3mta3@...
> Thanks
>






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If anyone is still here I would like to see this too.


--- In whirlpower@yahoogroups.com, "please3mta32002"
<please3mta32002@...> wrote:
>
> --- In whirlpower@yahoogroups.com, "jan_p_cack" <jan_p_cack@y...>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I have designed a Perpetual Motor with perm. magnets. Very simple
> > and stable. Full details FREE for anyone interested. Thanx Jan P.
> > Cack
> >
>
> I'm also interested in receiving your details on the Perpetual Motor.
> email: please3mta3@...
> Thanks
>

On behalf of the Whirlpower List please accept my apologies for the
spam that occassionally gets through. Every effort is made to allow
any and all who wish to join and participate on this list to do so.
However, we do get "members" that join for the sole purpose of sending
spam. These individuals and their posts will be promtly deleted.
best regards,
Dhub

Hi Jan,

I am also interested in the plans.

Thanks,

Jim Dickenson


-----Original Message-----
From: please3mta32002 [mailto:please3mta32002@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 09:19 PM
To: whirlpower@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [whirlpower list] Re: Free Perpetual Energy


--- In whirlpower@yahoogroups.com, "jan_p_cack" <jan_p_cack@y...>
wrote:
>
>
> I have designed a Perpetual Motor with perm. magnets. Very simple
> and stable. Full details FREE for anyone interested. Thanx Jan P.
> Cack
>

I'm also interested in receiving your details on the Perpetual Motor.
email: please3mta3@...
Thanks






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I really don't think it appropriate that we get "spammed" by advertisers
with the below "BUNK"!

There are many sites that can be used if members want to know about meeting
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Regards,


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Perth   WA

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Subject: [whirlpower list] No longer by myself!


I know some buddys who have met a few nice honey's off of this kind of thing
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message and Webcams system built in. Basically you join their chat-room on
their site it gives you a link to those    people online in the chat-room,
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--- In whirlpower@yahoogroups.com, "jan_p_cack" <jan_p_cack@y...>
wrote:
>
>
> I have designed a Perpetual Motor with perm. magnets. Very simple
> and stable. Full details FREE for anyone interested. Thanx Jan P.
> Cack
>

I'm also interested in receiving your details on the Perpetual Motor.
email: please3mta3@...
Thanks

steve the last we heard of david was that his son sent out an email stating
that he had passed, i wished he had taken the time to visit me before his
untimely passing, john hardin and i hooked up and checked out a number of ideas
to see what where how and of course why and got a few clues and answers
concerning whirlpools, be well, think in threes and "ropes of air will appear" 
at
the base of a whirlpool, regards stark



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I saw an article

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10240991/

indicating that it had now been discovered, and in fact it was a major
surprise, that one or more of Saturn's rings was a spiral, not a disk,
and I thought to myself "what's the big deal, a really smart guy told
me 25 years ago that that was the case"... that guy was Dave
Dennard... which led me to google Dave.... and it looks like I found
him... and now I'm really, really sorry I hadn't before now.  :  (

I'm gonna vent... Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhh.... what a guy he was. I am so
sad he has left us.  I knew him for a couple of weeks at most but we
spent awhole lot of time talking (that's what one does in those
locations), he made a HUGE impression on me, and I have thought about
him many, many times since. I guess part of me tried to push that
slice of my life to the back of my consciousness due to the stigma
attached to it (I seldom or never tell people about the experience),
but I'm gonna spill now.

First, let's confirm it's the same guy. Big, tall guy,maybe 6'9" or
taller. Redheaded, and balding. Brown eyes? Had narcolepsy, which
meant he could pass into a dreamlike state at any moment. He told me
he was Duke basketball player Kenny Dennard's brother. I am pretty
sure it is Northern CA is exactly where I would have expected him to
settle, I am aware there are many open-minded and thinking people there.

What he told me about physics:
1. He told me that "Gigantic" and "Tiny" were the same thing... that
there are as many universes in the very tiny world as there are in the
very huge (similar to what Donald Sutherland puts forth in "Animal
House"), but I hadn't seen that movie yet, so it was a new idea to me
at the time. He also said the two could conceivably "wrap", "meet" or
"connect".  That was a mind opener for sure...
2. Saturn's rings were spirals, not disks. That has always sat tight
as accurate in my mind and I am not surprised to see it confirmed.
3. He told me that there was an alternate universe, similar to ours,
directly behind the Sun. I remember the word Theopolis (City of God?)
coming up in this discussion. What was he referring to, does anyone
know? I never got any further in my thinking about that, and I don't
remember all of the specifics.
4.  Most importantly, he told me to study the way that light bends
around corners (diffraction and the resulting interference). He said
it is really important if one wants to see and understand the true
boundaries of our physical world. This I have done and I think he has
was right.

So Dave went out to northern CA, became a guru of sorts, and passed
away twenty years later. Good for you, Dave. Oh, it's gonna be a
duller world knowing Dave Dennard isn't in it anymore. He's now one
with the universe.

God bless you Dave, you enhanced my life. We'll meet in Theopolis one day.
:  )
S

This appears to be a very open-minded group of people, so I don't mind
telling you I was his roommate for a few days on a psych ward at Duke
  U. Hospital, maybe January of 1981... he told me some very
interesting things about physics that have never really left my mind.
He claimed to be the brother of Duke basketball player Kenny Dennard.
I googled him and I am sorry to hear he has passed, but from the
milieu here I knew I had found the guy. I will write more if anyone is
interested to hear it..? :  ) S


--- In whirlpower@yahoogroups.com, David H <dhubcal@i...> wrote:
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> That describes him very well. It's very sad, but very true Steve.
> David passed away in Feb 2001.
> He was living in Northern California.
> You knew him in Durham? wow, that must have been quite a few years ago!
> Was that the last time you heard from or saw him?
> blessings,
> Dhub
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: whirlpower@yahoogroups.com [mailto:whirlpower@yahoogroups.com]On
> Behalf Of sfitzge308
> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 8:03 PM
> To: whirlpower@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [whirlpower list] Has David Dennard passed?
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> I wa looking for him, I knew him years ago in Durham, NC.. a very tall
> guy who was narcoleptic, meaning he would fall alseep at a moment's
> notice... has he died? Someone please tell me...
> Thanks, Steve F.
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That describes him very well. It's very sad, but very true Steve.
David passed away in Feb 2001.
He was living in Northern California.
You knew him in Durham? wow, that must have been quite a few years ago!
Was that the last time you heard from or saw him?
blessings,
Dhub






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Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 8:03 PM
To: whirlpower@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [whirlpower list] Has David Dennard passed?


I wa looking for him, I knew him years ago in Durham, NC.. a very tall
guy who was narcoleptic, meaning he would fall alseep at a moment's
notice... has he died? Someone please tell me...
Thanks, Steve F.







Yahoo! Groups Links

I wa looking for him, I knew him years ago in Durham, NC.. a very tall
guy who was narcoleptic, meaning he would fall alseep at a moment's
notice... has he died? Someone please tell me...
Thanks, Steve F.

In a message dated 3/4/05 8:38:08 PM, jan_p_cack@... writes:


>
> I have designed a Perpetual Motor with perm. magnets. Very simple
> and stable. Full details FREE for anyone interested. Thanx Jan P.
> Cack
>

Hi Jan,

Sure!   How do I get this FREE stuff.   I am also willing to pay the postage.

Thanxiously yours,

Ralph Lewis


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what in the world is a vane?

parkerparker@... wrote:

>Hey David...What do you think about this? Not theoritically, just as a
>project.
>
>Sorry for the format...I copy/pasted from BAP's site.
>
>
>WATER VORTEX PROJECT
>I note interest in getting power from a vortex. It's much easier
>to sketch than describe. Here is a striking example of how to do
>that...You will need a standard coffee can. Solder a few vanes
>inside the can -- say 2 to 4. Cut them from another can. Such
>vanes can be from 0.5 to 1 inch wide. Spot solder them on the
>inside, making them a little shorter then the can's depth to
>allow water to evenly distribute around the inside, during rota-
>tion.
>You will need three 3/8" hard drawn copper tubes. Cut them all
>12" long. Punch a hole on each side of the can bottom, large
>enough to solder the drive tubes to. The third tube must be
>centered on the can bottom underneath. This must be dead center
>and alignment must be absolutely axial. While this can be done
>with the can inverted, a lathe would be better, where both compo-
>nents are automatically aligned. Chuck the can on the inside and
>use a center in the tailstock which goes inside the tube. Use a
>little flux where they contact. Use a propane torch with low
>flame and heat the tube ONLY, carefully applying solder to the
>copper near the point of contact. Then simultaneously apply just
>enough solder to both the can and the tube until they both join.
>Beware overheating the can, since its tinned surface can be
>burned, prevention soldering.
>The next operation completes the rotor...Stand the can on its
>opening. This is tricky. Use a large rubber band to hold the
>two tubes, each over a hole in the can, and against each side of
>the axis tube above its end. Solder each tube to the can, then
>spot solder their other ends to the axis tube. The base can be
>metal or wood, paraffined to prevent water absorption. Cut a
>1/4" diameter steel rod long enough to hold the rotor off the
>base to allow rotation freedom. The rod's end must have a cone-
>point, so when the rotor is placed over it, becomes the bearing.
>Use a garden hose without restriction for filling, connected to a
>hose bib for adjustment. It should be held in place by a fix-
>ture. If water entry is centered, after the can is completely
>full, you will need to start rotation. Otherwise if the hose is
>angled off center, rotation will be automatic. Set the base in a
>sink, or outside on the ground. Adjust water rapidly enough to
>fill the can. As rotation increases you will need to reduce
>water, otherwise the vortex will begin throwing water over the
>rim. What makes it rotate? Radial water velocity in the can
>draining down the two tubes converts radial velocity to kinetic
>energy, increasing spin. This is what happens when a skater
>spins on ice by pulling in the arms and sometimes a leg. You
>have a gravity driven turbine, while the skater must use energy
>for his spin. This is really worth the effort since it is full of
>ideas -- and fun to watch.
>
>
>
>

daviddennard@... wrote:

>There is another list set up for folks to try and undermine my work, perhaps
>you ought to go over there.
>
>
was he talking about the viktorschaubergergroup in this?
just wondering - it would be of great help if someone here knew which
list he was talking about - i havent come across that many
suction/implosion/whirlpower/whirlpool/vortex-based lists that would nod
towards water, or pretty much anything.

>>Hi,
>>I found proof of the concept in the books and works of Weyher, (XIX)
>>But I have to make them available for you all now.
>>The whirl makes the thing work.
>>Weyher was able to make tornados in the air - of course it's not acycloneor
whirlpool,
>>But the good thing isIt was in open air, with just some whirling device to
start theaction...And there it goes near the idea.The whirling make a big
"succion" effect, and hop, water startsmoving inthe air,Amazing !
>>Here it is pretty much the same, but in a whirlpool shape.The whirling makes a
synchronicity - a union, kind of a field,inside thebodies of water.The bigger,
the better.The field must be aetheric in substance, so gravity +electromagnetic
shifteffects.Gravity vector can goes "up" or "down" (because gravity is a
compoundvector, as for
>>Terrestrial magnetic). So gravity/levitation is difficult toseparate.The idea
of using big bodies, heavy ones is better. Because thekineticsinside can be very
strong forLittle speed.Anyway the whole system, with the centripetal-centrifugal
movement,makes itloose some temperature (degrees),And it's even easier to
contain energy in it...Regards,
>>Cedric
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well hopefully u can find some help in the archives, not sure if many else
are still responding to this list good luck, still trying to come up with stuff
  using/dealing with whirlpools, tesla and schauberger, regards,  stark


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Hi there,

How about some info about how pressure is a relevant variable in all the
terms you listed below. Also, the relevance of the Alpha-atmosphere and
Beta-atmosphere relating to Teslas view of the Aether?

Lets see if this list can be "jump started" back in to action hey?


John Rudiger
Perth   WA

Opportunity awaits the prepared mind.

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Sent: Monday, 22 August 2005 8:00 PM
To: whirlpower@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [whirlpower list] knock knock


who is there?
any of the people on here  on the viktorschaubergergroup -yahoogroups
mailinglist  discussing  viktor schauberger's   vortex/whirlpool
-ideas,  and  the implementation of said theories / construction of said
devices?
any of you feel like adding more  whirlpower related info to
http://www.peswiki.com <http://www.peswiki.com>  ?
anyone  trying to put tesla(aether/magnets)+schauberger(vortexes/water)
together  into one  reasonable whole?  feel like chipping in  to
http://www.777001.com <http://www.777001.com>  ?

anyone know german? have you tried  http://www.schauberger.tk
<http://www.schauberger.tk>  ?

its interesting that this list had a bunch of activity and then dried up
around 2003  and croaked its death around 2004?

hope there'sstill people building, photographing, thinking, and
progressing in turning  whirlpower  into a reality?  the  connections
between  the deceased david dennard ,  and  viktor schauberger   should
lend some common ground  for anyone interested?


i'll try to pore thru the ~2854  posts  on this list - and hope  it'll
somehow  all start  adding 1+1 together..   magnetism, water,
whirlpools, vortexes, energy, closed circuit  overunity, spirals.. the
whole lot.
any suggestions?




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