Hi David, True enough, there is no proof for curved or flat space in the terms you are speaking of. There is data showing a display of flatness within the...
Loren McDonald
misterrmac@...
Jun 1, 2000 12:44 pm
1402
Hi Neil, Sorry it took so long to reply to this. I had hope at first more would comment and waited. Alas. You wrote; ... I don't think so. Rotational...
David Dennard
daviddennard@...
Jun 1, 2000 11:15 pm
1403
Hi Loren, Proof of flat space is in my perspective of the gravitational lens measurment posted now for a very long time on many archived lists. And just...
David Dennard
daviddennard@...
Jun 2, 2000 1:26 am
1404
Not to turn this into a bickering fight, but when did you become a spaceman and travel the universe, David? Heheh. Don't mean to strike out at you personally,...
Asmyth
stirbei77@...
Jun 2, 2000 1:39 am
1405
Going out soon to Puthoff and vortex-l@... Yasmin, you need to get on the horn, now Hi folks, disturbing news, When I first came on this list and...
David Dennard
daviddennard@...
Jun 2, 2000 2:00 am
1406
We have been told the universe was curved for almost one hundred years. Lets not confuse Flat Earth with Flat Universe. Flat Earth goes with Curved Universe. ...
David Dennard
daviddennard@...
Jun 2, 2000 2:16 am
1407
More in depth, and in THE ROSE you can see when Dr. Vera Rubin point to the same problem in the Einstein Rings, ie "tease the data" and my comment. Archived...
David Dennard
daviddennard@...
Jun 2, 2000 2:37 am
1408
Here is a little on perspective, bound to get to those who don't believe in God. Hey, you have a right to think anything you want, so do I. When Einstein died...
David Dennard
daviddennard@...
Jun 2, 2000 2:54 am
1409
hi David, Okay, I'll buy that "in your perspective" The thing is, for what ever reason there was probably not enough data for those measurements to make enough...
Loren McDonald
misterrmac@...
Jun 2, 2000 3:19 am
1410
... No NO NO NO... your twisting things all around.... the analogy is not just an analogy it is. The only reason for keeping it in terms of an analogy is that...
Loren McDonald
misterrmac@...
Jun 2, 2000 3:55 am
1411
... One other comment about your statements there... the are "your way" of saying that the the wrongness of saying the earth is flat is applicable to saying...
Loren McDonald
misterrmac@...
Jun 2, 2000 3:59 am
1412
Loren, the original curved space idea was; if the measuremnt of the percieved angle in the gravity telescope was 1.75, then Einstein's Theory would be correct....
David Dennard
daviddennard@...
Jun 2, 2000 4:24 am
1413
NO NO NO Loren, he was makeing the analogy in reverse. WE now have the facts, much like our ancestors finally go the facts the Earth was round. Flat Earth was...
David Dennard
daviddennard@...
Jun 2, 2000 4:28 am
1414
Hi David, I just had to add my 2 cents worth in a few places here... ... ummm.. no it does not stop, it curves back on itself. To the best of my knowledge...
Loren McDonald
misterrmac@...
Jun 2, 2000 4:53 am
1415
... I still have yet to read up on this 1.75 angle but at present don't see where ALL of Einsteins theories were based upon JUST that and for that to be wrong...
Loren McDonald
misterrmac@...
Jun 2, 2000 5:06 am
1416
David, Why don't you write some documents about all this stuff and put a copyright notice on it. Then you can leave them on your web site and masively...
Neil Simmonds
n.simmonds@...
Jun 2, 2000 5:20 am
1417
... You know I hate having to explain myself for the thousandth time...but I do it for the sake of those who just can't seem to grasp something. I guess its my...
Loren McDonald
misterrmac@...
Jun 2, 2000 5:32 am
1418
... But that is theory, Loren, theory. Not fact, never proven. And contrary to common sense. And if it is curved and finite with a maximum diameter it must...
David Dennard
daviddennard@...
Jun 2, 2000 10:04 am
1419
I would be interested. Edward's site is copyrighted. Hotmail and Egroups say every thing is copyrighted. I have no idea what all the legal mumbo jumbo is...
David Dennard
daviddennard@...
Jun 2, 2000 10:15 am
1420
... EXCUSE ME? What data says that the entire universe is not void and/or curved and finite? None. the only data on hand points out that in our observable ...
Loren McDonald
misterrmac@...
Jun 2, 2000 2:08 pm
1421
Hi Loren, Well, it was a good debate. :) I think the reason Barnett's Five Star book went out of print is because it tells the truth. It was only just a few...
David Dennard
daviddennard@...
Jun 2, 2000 5:20 pm
1422
Well folks, it time for the lurker sweeping session again. I'm pulling out the old broom and sweeping the list clean. This has become a ritual now on the...
David Dennard
daviddennard@...
Jun 2, 2000 6:17 pm
1423
Today's sweep is accomplished. I actually hope I will never have to sweep again but I know I will. Traciee, you are next. You are most welcome to be on this...
David Dennard
daviddennard@...
Jun 2, 2000 6:38 pm
1424
... Actually it was a bad debate because it was off topic the entire time. Even so, if we put aside certain discrepancies which could be inferred to but not ...
Loren McDonald
misterrmac@...
Jun 2, 2000 10:05 pm
1425
Everyone, Here is another guy who is starting to look for whirlpool data in relation to whirlpools in the ocean. Also not finding any scientific testing,...
David Dennard
daviddennard@...
Jun 2, 2000 10:55 pm
1426
Hello everyone, Now that the heated debate is over I'll come out of hiding now. :) Does anyone have any comments on the drawings I sent with the ring in the...
John WW Hardin
budove58@...
Jun 3, 2000 2:48 am
1427
I still say it was a good debate, I don't expect you to concede I am right. I say, do the tests, the data will speak for itself. But how do we (I) get science...
David Dennard
daviddennard@...
Jun 3, 2000 4:05 am
1428
I'm sure there are many different reasons why there could be a lack of interest in getting a theory tested. Most of the time, I believe, the case is that some...
Asmyth
stirbei77@...
Jun 3, 2000 5:29 pm
1429
Hi! Right now, action speaks more than words... See ya later!! //QRT ... I am right. ... the ... tested, ... without being ... specifically stated ... more...
Curt Hallberg
qrt.o.tina@...
Jun 3, 2000 9:14 pm
1430
Hi John, Did I miss something? Heated debate?? LOL Seriously, the first question still stands, but refering to the drawings... -- Loren R. McDonald ... ...
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