Hi there,

How about some info about how pressure is a relevant variable in all the
terms you listed below. Also, the relevance of the Alpha-atmosphere and
Beta-atmosphere relating to Teslas view of the Aether?

Lets see if this list can be "jump started" back in to action hey?


John Rudiger
Perth   WA

Opportunity awaits the prepared mind.

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From: esajuhaniruoho [mailto:esaruoho@...]
Sent: Monday, 22 August 2005 8:00 PM
To: whirlpower@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [whirlpower list] knock knock


who is there?
any of the people on here  on the viktorschaubergergroup -yahoogroups
mailinglist  discussing  viktor schauberger's   vortex/whirlpool
-ideas,  and  the implementation of said theories / construction of said
devices?
any of you feel like adding more  whirlpower related info to
http://www.peswiki.com <http://www.peswiki.com>  ?
anyone  trying to put tesla(aether/magnets)+schauberger(vortexes/water)
together  into one  reasonable whole?  feel like chipping in  to
http://www.777001.com <http://www.777001.com>  ?

anyone know german? have you tried  http://www.schauberger.tk
<http://www.schauberger.tk>  ?

its interesting that this list had a bunch of activity and then dried up
around 2003  and croaked its death around 2004?

hope there'sstill people building, photographing, thinking, and
progressing in turning  whirlpower  into a reality?  the  connections
between  the deceased david dennard ,  and  viktor schauberger   should
lend some common ground  for anyone interested?


i'll try to pore thru the ~2854  posts  on this list - and hope  it'll
somehow  all start  adding 1+1 together..   magnetism, water,
whirlpools, vortexes, energy, closed circuit  overunity, spirals.. the
whole lot.
any suggestions?




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well there are moderators, who can  return things back to the way they
were - if some destructive action happens.. however - thus far we have
had 5 people adding information and no more.. its not exactly a
highprofile  high-traffic site.. and last i checked,
VS/spirals/whirlpower/centripetal movement is not of the  highest
script-kiddy/saboteur  interest..

also let me suggest  that maybe joining the viktorschaubergergroup  @
yahoogroups.com  (  viktorschaubergergroup-subscribe@yahoogroups.com )
would be of benefit - certain people over there have posted pictures and
whatnots  of  whirlpools - and are  developing   VS-related  things..


i hope to go thru the whirlpower-list archives and find lots of
inspirational  data  to  better formulate  ideas   towards building a
house-hold-object-using whirlpool..  and later on  use it with magnets..
and  _all that_



fmstark@... wrote:

> In a message dated 8/22/2005 6:36:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> whirlpower@yahoogroups.com writes:
> i am around and i am always looking for clean and frugal energy
> devices, I
> am at the moment involved with other things at this point in time
> however i
> believe some of the other memebers that are around still checking
> into  "things,
> Hope all is well with everyone, Rgeards, stark
>
> PS Thanks for the  _http://www.777001.com_ (http://www.777001.com)
> <http://www.777001.com%29>   site
> looks like it  could go places! are there any contolrs that can keep
> someone from
> deleting what  someone else has posted?

In a message dated 8/22/2005 6:36:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
whirlpower@yahoogroups.com writes:

http://www.777001.com


i am around and i am always looking for clean and frugal energy  devices, I
am at the moment involved with other things at this point in time  however i
believe some of the other memebers that are around still checking into  "things,
Hope all is well with everyone, Rgeards, stark

PS Thanks for the  _http://www.777001.com_ (http://www.777001.com)   site
looks like it  could go places! are there any contolrs that can keep someone
from
deleting what  someone else has posted?




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who is there?
any of the people on here  on the viktorschaubergergroup -yahoogroups
mailinglist  discussing  viktor schauberger's   vortex/whirlpool
-ideas,  and  the implementation of said theories / construction of said
devices?
any of you feel like adding more  whirlpower related info to
http://www.peswiki.com ?
anyone  trying to put tesla(aether/magnets)+schauberger(vortexes/water)
together  into one  reasonable whole?  feel like chipping in  to
http://www.777001.com ?

anyone know german? have you tried  http://www.schauberger.tk ?

its interesting that this list had a bunch of activity and then dried up
around 2003  and croaked its death around 2004?

hope there'sstill people building, photographing, thinking, and
progressing in turning  whirlpower  into a reality?  the  connections
between  the deceased david dennard ,  and  viktor schauberger   should
lend some common ground  for anyone interested?


i'll try to pore thru the ~2854  posts  on this list - and hope  it'll
somehow  all start  adding 1+1 together..   magnetism, water,
whirlpools, vortexes, energy, closed circuit  overunity, spirals.. the
whole lot.
any suggestions?

Hi all,

I understand that light can be viewed scientifically as a partical or
as a wave but can anyone tell me, or direct me to where I can find
out,
how the motion of a Photon moves through space in a 3D
representation?

John.

okay, here's my idea:
now I don't want this to be taken too literally, this is just I fun concept
I had, but I think it should have some far reaching implications.
Assume there is one of these threads of  consciousness, we all think alike.
I hope to teach English someday, and I have studied the Monmouth
extensively, the idea that all mythology, fables, stories, have collective
themes regardless of where they appear in the world.

I got to thinking, what if religion worked the same way.

If we understood how the collective unconscious works, we could identify the
exact themes that should appear in any religion, there are of course, many
obvious ones: The man/god, a descent into the underworld, a fall from
paradise, a great flood,

We could also identify unqiue traits, things that don't spring from the
collective unconcious. I realize that the discussion of religion holds a
shaky place on a science forum, but what if there was some way to identify
traits of a religion that did not spring purely from the mind of it's
believers. To put it simply, (and some what naively) what if we could
discover what religions "made up" and what, if anything, really happened.

I hope you understand what I'm getting at here
----- Original Message -----
From: "Abe Baruck" <abe.baruck@...>
To: <whirlpower@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 12:22 PM
Subject: RE: [whirlpower list]


> Will,
> Truth is a slippery word. The collective unconscious is a concept, a
> intangible theory that can't be proven scientifically.
> But ask yourself, are there not a multitude of common myths and symbols,
> realized through dreams and art that recur infinitely throughout the
> ages. With so many people having such similar affinity to these points
> of interest, there would seem to be some sort of thread that connects
> all beings of consciousness throughout evolution.
> The whirlpool could be taken as one of those points.
>
> A. Baruck
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: whirlpower@yahoogroups.com [mailto:whirlpower@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Spindle
> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 8:08 PM
> To: whirlpower@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [whirlpower list]
>
> Hello all,
> My name is will dooling, I am a high school senior who is rarely taken
> seriously, so I am being a bit cautious about an idea I have, I think i
> have the key to just about everything...
>
> more later, but I need to know from you guy's...
>
> How much truth is there behind the theory of the collective unconscious.
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Will,
Truth is a slippery word. The collective unconscious is a concept, a
intangible theory that can't be proven scientifically.
But ask yourself, are there not a multitude of common myths and symbols,
realized through dreams and art that recur infinitely throughout the
ages. With so many people having such similar affinity to these points
of interest, there would seem to be some sort of thread that connects
all beings of consciousness throughout evolution.
The whirlpool could be taken as one of those points.

A. Baruck

-----Original Message-----
From: whirlpower@yahoogroups.com [mailto:whirlpower@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Spindle
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 8:08 PM
To: whirlpower@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [whirlpower list]

Hello all,
My name is will dooling, I am a high school senior who is rarely taken
seriously, so I am being a bit cautious about an idea I have, I think i
have the key to just about everything...

more later, but I need to know from you guy's...

How much truth is there behind the theory of the collective unconscious.



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Hello all,
My name is will dooling, I am a high school senior who is rarely taken
seriously, so I am being a bit cautious about an idea I have, I think i have the
key to just about everything...

more later, but I need to know from you guy's...

How much truth is there behind the theory of the collective unconscious.



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I am keen to have a chance to study your work. Please
advise how I may access the details
thanks and regards
menon
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> Thanx Jan P.
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THANKS !

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Hi,

I am interested. can I have the plans ?

Thanks
Christian

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>To: whirlpower@yahoogroups.com
>From: "jan_p_cack" <jan_p_cack@...>
>Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2005 04:35:55 -0000
>Subject: [whirlpower list] Free Perpetual Energy
>Reply-To: whirlpower@yahoogroups.com
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I am interested.   How may I obtain your free-energy information?

Thanks,   R. E. Lewis   =   cocoweep@...




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This experiment can equally prove an ether.
Don

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value of the Lense-Thirring effect -- also known as frame-dragging -- that
is 99% of that predicted by general relativity (Nature 431 958). However,
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have been meaning to write the group this last
week -- good to get your message.

over the last year have reflected upon our baseline
FireShip design --

   http://unamity.com/specs/
   http://unamity.com/electra/

and have made two revisions, refinements.

basically a confirmation of our earlier assessments.

1) bigger is better.  the 45-meter wingspan we describe
for the first experimental passengerliner is a minimum
scale to achieve orbit using onboard hydrogen and
utilizing 50 percent atmospheric oxygen.

the larger wingspans, 100 meters, 200 meters
and up become well-suited for ocean launch and
landing -- and for the INFRASTRUCTURAL economics
of scale which are required in an enterprise which
must have the approval and participation of an entire
global civilization: public, corporate, governmental.

2) the forward-swept wing concept is not appropriate,
though we very much appreciate the vortex topology
insights provided by our brother Robert Patterson.

the rear-swept topology of all the current X49 baseline
designs, as in a flattenned raindrop, is both the most
stable and the most drag-resistant configuration --
whether we are in a gliding phase of re-entry or in
an active-thruster phase of ascent or re-entry,


thus in any future design contests I will drop the forward-
swept option from the guidelines.

as to design changes for sea-launch and -landing we
have to place both the forward ramscoops AND rear
trailing edge rocket exhausts ABOVE the hull which will
be 'eating' water so to speak!

the concave bottom will become convex, 'buoyed' downward
and outward rather than upward and inward.

and we can look to ocean-going barge ship designs, and
the SCALE of ocean waves, for minimum wingspans for
mitigating wave interference for fair-weather takeoff
and landings.  [eliminating bounce and drag.]


as we sail upon the heavens, so shall we float
upon the seas ...


only together,



Millennium Twain




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Greetings All, Here's an update.
The data evaluation phase of Gravity Probe B is underway. Here's some
background:

"What is Gravity Probe B?
Gravity Probe B is the relativity gyroscope experiment being
developed by NASA and Stanford University to test two unverified
predictions of Albert Einstein's general theory of relativity.

The experiment will check, very precisely, tiny changes in the
direction of spin of four gyroscopes contained in an Earth satellite
orbiting at 400-mile altitude directly over the poles. So free are
the gyroscopes from disturbance that they will provide an almost
perfect space-time reference system. They will measure how space and
time are warped by the presence of the Earth, and, more profoundly,
how the Earth's rotation drags space-time around with it. These
effects, though small for the Earth, have far-reaching implications
for the nature of matter and the structure of the Universe."

related links:
http://www.gravityprobeb.com
http://www.nasa.gov/missions/highlights/launch_update_gpb.html
http://einstein.stanford.edu

best,
Dhub


--- In whirlpower@yahoogroups.com, "dhubcal" <dhubcal@i...> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> David had a lot to say about frame-dragging and related it to
> Whirlpower.
> Dhub
> --------------
>
> NASA to Test Space-Time Fabric
>
> "If theory holds, the mass and rotation of the Earth, 397 miles
below
> the probe, should throw the alignment of the spinning balls off
> kilter in subtle but measurable ways.
>
> The warping effect has been measured before. The twisting effect,
> called frame-dragging, has never been directly detected. Gravity
> Probe B aims to detect both."
>
> more: http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,62936,00.html

ty dhub looking forward to their conclusions,regards to all stark


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Hi all,

David had a lot to say about frame-dragging and related it to
Whirlpower.
Dhub
--------------

NASA to Test Space-Time Fabric

"If theory holds, the mass and rotation of the Earth, 397 miles below
the probe, should throw the alignment of the spinning balls off
kilter in subtle but measurable ways.

The warping effect has been measured before. The twisting effect,
called frame-dragging, has never been directly detected. Gravity
Probe B aims to detect both."

more: http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,62936,00.html

Hi everyone,

I've been getting a number of off-line inquiries regarding David's
work on Whirlpower. Mainly, they want to know if anyone has built or
attempted to build a prototype of the "whirlpool" machine. I think
there are some parties out there ready to claim that they have. It
will be interesting to see their results. I constantly see cross
references closely related on other sites and in the news.

peace and light,
dhub

Most people think that Nazis had all the knowledge from there Genius
Members, but the real truth is the Members were bought and distracted
from completing there tasks by our Intelligence.
  Schauberger was one of them according to a Professor of Antiquities
(Washington University 1975-1986, unfortunately the Professor died in
1986)He was the one working on the new discoveries and implementation
of the bombs and laser function for the Nazi party. I don't remember
all his duties but I had the chance to interview him once in the late
70's.




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> Schauberger survived the war - so it seems unlikely that the Third
Reich
> figured Whirlpower out.
> Also, Hitler lost, which seems unlikely if they had access to
unlimited
> energy and flying saucers.
>
> However, did Schauberger write nothing after the war about his
experiences?
>
> Regards
> Jack
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> >> >What happened with Hitler and Schauberger is anyone's guess at
the
> >>moment.
> >> >>From all I can gather Schauberger figured out Whirlpower and
it has
> been
> >> >surpressed or they never figured it and I am the first to
actually do
> it.
> >> >Sure will be interesting to find out for sure.
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Hello all,

I will be taking two instruments with me to the Gravitational Mystery Spot
in Santa Cruz this weekend:
http://intalek.com/Index/Projects/SmartWAVE/SmartWAVE.htm

The first instrument is called SmartWAVE. SmartWAVE is based on the
following principle illustrated on the far right of this diagram:
http://www.intalek.com/Papers/GMF_summary.gif

According to theory, a change in gravity will "mass fluctuate" the
dielectric material causing a spontaneous change in energy already stored in
the capacitor, and in this case, an ultracapacitor. The voltage across the
ultracapacitor is monitored, and the mass fluctuation can be calculated
based on this voltage change.

The KEY issue here is that gravity and electromagnetism "couple" only when
mass is in a state of fluctuation.

The second instrument is the Accutron Timing System shown here:
http://intalek.com/Index/Projects/SmartWAVE/SmartWAVE.htm

This instrument consists of an Accutron 218 tuning fork watch, a tuning fork
sensor, 100' of cable, the MicroSet 3 Electronic Timing Unit, and a notebook
computer running data logging software.

According to theory, the gravity anomaly will mass fluctuate the tuning fork
of the watch, thereby causing the tuning fork to vibrate at a different
frequency. However, "shrink-grow" phenomena associated with the Spot will
also cause the tuning fork to change in size. Since mass and size are
inversely related according to SR (Special Relativity), the tuning fork
system should display unity gain while passing through the anomaly.

Gravitational Mystery Spots are probably one the most profound NATURAL
phenomena on the earth today, and for the most part, are unexplored.

Bill
The NUCLEAR VILLAGE Project
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/intalek>

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Hello all,

Remember this story from a few years back:
http://www.blackvault.com/news2/weird_whirlpool.html

Does anyone know if this phenomena is still occurring? Please email me if it
is?

Bill
The NUCLEAR VILLAGE Project
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Mark Peters
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Referring to Richard Hoagland's research website:
http://www.enterprisemission.com/hyper3.html

About a third of the way down, you'll see something that is absolutely
extraordinary:
http://www.enterprisemission.com/images/hyper/hex-comp.jpg

This is direct evidence of the formation of a HYPERSPHERE, or polytope,
which forms "inside" of a rotating mass. These are standing wave gravimetric
structures, or lines of force (spatial geometry). On the earth, my theory
places the vertex of this polytope at the locations of these so-called
Mystery Spots.

I will be visiting and researching the Mystery Spot of Santa Cruz the
weekend of Dec. 6th and 7th.

Bill
The NUCLEAR VILLAGE Project
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   INTALEK, INC.               PHONE/FAX: 219.924.2742
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Hi all,

Welcome Chris
Science is getting closer all the time to the time. As we know, everything
from the atom to the galaxies are spinning around.
Dennard deserves much credit for his visions.

Dhub


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Congratulations to the Whirlpower Team for their vision. Though I am
only a High School Graduate, waiting for college, I envy the people
working on this project. The insight and hard work into the
Whirlpower Theory has been a major and inspirational breakthrough. I
wish good luck and much sincerity, in future plans and the building
of the Whirlpower machine. Good luck to you all.

Chris

makes me wonder if the spin of particles around atoms "twisting" into a
vortex (as in the "ropes of air" envisioned by tesla) or (black hole/s), create
that energy,
regards stark
PS still got the site and am working towards that goal


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