Hello Dick,
Thank you for your clear answer.
I just removed the "C:\Program Files\visualFORTH" directory and ran the
visualFORTH0111.bat file and that's it ! thank you so much.
Now I have to try it. I'm not a specialist of Forth.
Thierry
--- In win32forth@yahoogroups.com, Dirk Bruehl <dirk_bruehl@...> wrote:
>
>
> Sorry, somehow I forgot to share this mail:
>
> --- Dirk Bruehl <dirk_bruehl@...> schrieb am Di, 30.6.2009:
>
> Von: Dirk Bruehl <dirk_bruehl@...>
> Betreff: AW: Betrifft: [win32forth] visualforth console.f
> An: "thierryp34" <thierry.poidras@...>
> CC: visualFORTH@...
> Datum: Dienstag, 30. Juni 2009, 19:13
> Hello Thierry,
>
> Thanks a lot for being consistent to get visualFORTH running. You are doing a
great job helping to improve visualFORTH - and to improve the
installation-process is the most important part of it, for now!
>
> Somehow you managed to get the visualFORTH-folder before you got Win32Forth
installed. Should not happen normally, because if you do not have Win32Forth,
there should be an error message:
>
> C:\ Win32Forth nicht gefunden
> Ende ohne Installation
> Press any key to continue . . .
>
> I should have used an English Language text at that point.
>
> But if you got a folder visualFORTH into "Program Files" somehow (you can
create such a folder easily), then the visualFORTH0111.bat does all the copying
into this folder and tries to update, and then it will not find the
> Win32-files which are not there. The reason for this: my idea was that you
should be able to install a new Win32Forth after having visualFORTH, and updates
are always going to visualFORTH and are not trying to convert the new Win32FORTH
installation (sounds complicated, I know, but I still think
> it is a good idea).
>
> If you look inside your visualFORTH-folder, you may find most of the
Win32Forth-files missing.
>
> What to do now?
>
> The easiest Solution - I do this very often for testing purposes with
different versions - is to rename your visualFORTH-folder, let's say you name it
visualFORTH-1 or something like this (of course you may delete the whole
visualFORTH folder also).
> Then start the visualFORTH0111.bat again and I am pretty sure it will work!
>
> I hope this helps!
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Dirk Bruehl
>
> P.S.: This answer goes to the last email I got from you, because I have really
slow dial-in Internet here - that's why I offer the update-only version of
visualFORTH, for all those people like me which have to wait for hours to get a
complete version download done.
> Now I will read the other four emails.
> And I made some more remarks -->
> >
> > --- thierryp34 <thierry.poidras@...>
> > schrieb am Di, 30.6.2009:
> >
> > > Von: thierryp34 <thierry.poidras@...>
> > > Betreff: Betrifft: [win32forth] visualforth console.f
> > > An: "Dirk Bruehl" <dirk_bruehl@...>
> > > Datum: Dienstag, 30. Juni 2009, 15:51
> > > Hello Dirk and Jos. Not easy to post
> > > in visualFORTH group !
> > >  thank you very much for your answers.
> > >
> > > It seems that as I used the "c:\windows\system32
> > \XCOPY "
> > > once now XCOPY alone is recognized !
> > >
>
> This is some kind of these MicroSoft miracles. You never know what may happen
next! But it is nice that you could fix it!
> It's worth to be put into the "FirstAid-Box"
>
> > > I've installed Win32Forth in the directory C:\Program
> > > Files\Win32Forth (version 6.12.00)
>
> That was the right step!
>
> > > the batch file visualFORTH0111.bat is unpacked in
> > > C:\visualFORTH0111
> > > visualFORTH is installed in C:\Program
> > Files\visualFORTH
>
> This line tells you that the batch is now working with the visualFORTH-folder.
I have to do a correction at this point.
> The text should be:
>
> visualFORTH is being updated in C:\Program Files\visualFORTH
>
> instead. This correction should be with the next update-version.
> > >
> > >
> > > When I run visualFORTH0111.bat I still have the same
> > > problem:
> > > I read the message "Now visualFORTH is updating...
> > This may
> > > need some minutes"
> > > another cmd windows appear in c:\program
> > > Files\visualFORTH\fkernell.exe with the following
> > message:
> > > Loading Comment.f : words removed from previous
> > release
> > > ...
> > > error(-38):. .\..\src\ console\console. f file not
> > found.
> > >
>
> I have explained above why this happens.
> I have to do a correction here to:
> If console.f or any other file missing, then visualFORTH.bat should give an
error message with a hint to install Win32Forth first.
> This correction should be with the next update-version.
>
> > > This problem hapens also if I type the command:
> > > start ..\..\fkernel.exe fload SetupAll.f /WAIT
> > > from the prompt.
>
> I see, you found how you can do it - but did not help because of the missing
files, sorry!
>
> > >
> > > It is as if the setup was not finding the "C:\Program
> > > Files\Win32Forth\src\" path.
>
> You are right!
> But in this case it did not look for this path, as I have explained above.
> No cure for that, as long as we stay with this system that you will be able to
add a new Win32Forth version after installing visualFORTH and still being able
to update visualFORTH.
> Remark: you even have ForthForm inside your visualFORTH-folder after
visualFORTH is installed, so you can use both, visualFORTH and ForthForm at the
same time, and you are able to open the same .ff-file with visualFORTH and
ForthForm at the same time. I thougth that may be helpful fur evaluation.
>
> > >
> > > Thierry
>
> Thanks again for helping to improve visualFORTH installation!
>
> Regards,
>
> Dirk
>
> > > --- In visualFORTH@...
> > > hat Dirk Bruehl <dirk_bruehl@> geschrieben:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Jos,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for your supporting comment! I appreciate
> > it
> > > very much!
> > > > Indeed - and of course - visualFORTH is build on
> > > Win32Forth.
> > > > It is "only" a patch to Win32Forth Version 6.12,
> > with
> > > approx. 250 changes and additions to ForthForm, and
> > changing
> > > of philosophy to the goal of making programming on
> > > MS-Windows computers possible without knowledge of
> > > Windows-Programming, APIs or OOPs - this change of
> > > philosophy is expressed with the new name
> > "visualFORTH".
> > > >
> > > > The Installation-Manual is available at
http://www.visualforth.com/Alpha/Starting_visualFORTH.pdf
> > > and it says on page 1:
> > > >
> > > > "There are two different Downloads:
> > > > 1) VisualFORTH Alpha-Version complete, including
> > > Win32Forth Version 6.12,
> > > > Zip-File, 5,09 Megabyte.
> > > > 2) VisualFORTH Alpha-Version Patch for
> > Win32Forth
> > > Version 6.12,
> > > > Zip-File, only 308 Kilobyte.
> > > > If you already have Win32Forth Version 6.12
> > inside
> > > folder "Program Files", you can use the shorter
> > second
> > > version. This second version is your update, if you
> > already
> > > have visualFORTH.
> > > > Both downloads share the same name for
> > installation
> > > reasons."
> > > >
> > > > There it is clearly said (so I think) that
> > Win32Forth
> > > Version 6.12 is needed first. May be I should make it
> > more
> > > comprehendable.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks again
> > > > and Best Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Dirk Bruehl
> > > >
> > > > P.S.: I started a special Yahoo-Group for
> > Germany, but
> > > I guess it's better it is internationally:
http://de.groups.yahoo.com/group/visualFORTH/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- Jos v.d.Ven <josv@> schrieb am Mo,
> > > 29.6.2009:
> > > >
> > > > Von: Jos v.d.Ven <josv@>
> > > > Betreff: Re: [win32forth] visualforth console.f
> > > > An: win32forth@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Datum: Montag, 29. Juni 2009, 20:34
> > > >
> > > > Hi Thierry,
> > > >
> > > > VisualForth seems to be build on Win32Forth.
> > > > So I would recommend to you to install
> > Win32Forth
> > > first and then
> > > > follow the manual of VisualForth for the
> > VisualForth-
> > > part.
> > > >
> > > > console.f should be in the distribution pack.
> > > > Download Win32Forth again when it is not there.
> > > > See the manual of VisualForth for the version of
> > > Win32Forth you need.
> > > >
> > > > When that does not work then it might be better
> > to
> > > post a msg in the
> > > > separate group for VisualForth.
> > > >
> > > > Jos
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "thierryp34" <poidras@dstu.
> > univ-montp2.
> > > fr>
> > > > To: <win32forth@yahoogro ups.com>
> > > > Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 4:26 PM
> > > > Subject: [win32forth] visualforth console.f
> > > >
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > > I'm trying to install visualforth on Windows
> > XP.
> > > > > In the visualFORTH0111. bat I had to modify
> > the
> > > XCOPY on line 24 by
> > > > > c:\windows\system32 \XCOPY to make it work
> > on my
> > > PC.
> > > > > It may help someone.
> > > > > After this modification the setup starts
> > and
> > > gives the message:
> > > > > error(-38):. .\..\src\ console\console. f
> > file
> > > not found.
> > > > > Could you please give me any suggestion?
> > > > > Thank you very much in advance.
> > > > > Thierry
> > > > >
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