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Re: [OT] Speed

I'll send your list to Ballmer. :)

On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Mike <michael.net@gmail.com> wrote:

Just make it faster please.  What of any interest has been added since 2003?

Everything new added to C# was already better in JavaScript and other languages, and while things like generics are good, they are so very noisy and ugly in C#.  Everything new added to ASP.NET was overshadowed by Ajax.  Everything new added to VS was overshadowed by ReSharper and others.

Some new things are good.  The addition of F#, Ruby, and Python to the VS world is exciting, though personally I'd give a much higher priority to adding a little intellisense and refactoring support for JavaScript, since that's what we have immediate need for.  MVC is good.

If you really want to give us new stuff, then give us something exciting, like the iPhone!  We want a way to send our own ideas out into the mobile world, and maybe even make some coin.  

And just get rid of IE, entirely.  I'm serious, it's an active negative for the entire planet.

Mike



On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Brad Wilson <dotnetguy@...> wrote:


"Make it faster" or "add new features"?
 
Pick one. :)


On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Joe O'Leary <jmoleary@...> wrote:
Unfortunately VS2008 is a dog, even on fast machines, IMO.  Worse than 2005 which was worse than 2003.  I really wish they would improve the performance for once.  If the new one is changing a lot, it is probably going to be an even bigger dog

-----Original Message-----
>From: Anna-Jayne Metcalfe <yahoo@...>
>Sent: Jul 10, 2009 9:33 PM
>To: win_tech_off_topic@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: RE: [OT] Speed
>
>Hi Mike,
>
>> Is Windows 7 going to be faster than XP?  Is VS 2010 going to be faster
>than the preceding versions?  I'm seeing very positive reviews of these new
>products, but nobody ever talks about speed, which is the only thing I care
>about.
>
>If our testing is anything to go by, Win7 is comparable to XP in performance
>and if other reports are accurate is certainly capable of running on a
>smaller footprint than Vista. It's certainly worth a look if you're bringing
>in new machines (I'm not a fan of OS upgrades).
>
>VS2010 is another matter. The verdict is not yet in on the new WPF based
>editor, but my gut feeling (and based on what I've seen from beta
>installations) I'd say that VS2010 is going to have a significantly bigger
>footprint than VS2008, and the volume of change in this release may have
>some consequences in the RTM.
>
>It has always seemed to me that Visual Studio releases follow a two-step
>pattern - one release where they try to change too much (VS5, VS2002,
>VS2005) followed by which consolidates the changes of the previous release
>(VS6, VS2003, VS2008). My instincts tell me that VS2010 may (unfortunately)
>be in the former camp. The plus side of that is of course that the next
>release after VS2010 - call it VS2012 for now - will probably be a good one.
>
>I can't help with Silverlight etc. I'm afraid - I'm a native C++ dev.
>
>
>
>Cheers,
>
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I'll send your list to Ballmer. :)...
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