Uupps ..
I found the route, isolation route. Great!
Thank's, again
Rgds
Wijono
--- In winqcad_group@yahoogroups.com, "Wijono" <wijono@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Konar,
> Thank you for help.
> I followed those steps, and found the routing is ready in Handroute step after
autorouting stopped.
> Then, I ca also extracte the generated gerber files in PcbPlot step, and
display the content. Nice.
>
> If I need an 'isolation route', can Winqcad provide it in the gerber file?
> I am iterested in building a homemade cnc pcb milling machine utilzing this
great software.
>
> Rgds,
> Wijono
>
> --- In winqcad_group@yahoogroups.com, Mithat Konar <mithat_konar@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > The autorouter will run forever if you let it; it continually tries to find
an even better routing solution than the best one it has found so far. If a long
time has passed without any updates, you can assume it's not going to get any
better and safely click the "Exit" button to stop the autorouter.
> >
> > The autorouter generates only data about how the board should be routed. It
does not actually "place" the routes.
> >
> > To "place" the routes and generate the other data that's needed to represent
a complete board, you need to use the "Handroute" tool. When you start the
Handroute tool after finishing autorouting, it will ask you for some parameters
it needs, then it will show you the board with the routes in place. Within
Handroute, you should at a minimum check that all the routes are ok and run a
design rule check (DRC).
> >
> > So, the basic order in which you use tools is:
> > SchEditPCBEditAutorouteHandroutePCB Print
> > Once you get comfortable with this basic workflow, you can begin to learn
about how you can move back and forth if you need to.
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> > -M
>
Hi Konar,
Thank you for help.
I followed those steps, and found the routing is ready in Handroute step after
autorouting stopped.
Then, I ca also extracte the generated gerber files in PcbPlot step, and display
the content. Nice.
If I need an 'isolation route', can Winqcad provide it in the gerber file?
I am iterested in building a homemade cnc pcb milling machine utilzing this
great software.
Rgds,
Wijono
--- In winqcad_group@yahoogroups.com, Mithat Konar <mithat_konar@...> wrote:
>
>
> The autorouter will run forever if you let it; it continually tries to find an
even better routing solution than the best one it has found so far. If a long
time has passed without any updates, you can assume it's not going to get any
better and safely click the "Exit" button to stop the autorouter.
>
> The autorouter generates only data about how the board should be routed. It
does not actually "place" the routes.
>
> To "place" the routes and generate the other data that's needed to represent a
complete board, you need to use the "Handroute" tool. When you start the
Handroute tool after finishing autorouting, it will ask you for some parameters
it needs, then it will show you the board with the routes in place. Within
Handroute, you should at a minimum check that all the routes are ok and run a
design rule check (DRC).
>
> So, the basic order in which you use tools is:
> SchEditPCBEditAutorouteHandroutePCB Print
> Once you get comfortable with this basic workflow, you can begin to learn
about how you can move back and forth if you need to.
>
> Hope this helps,
> -M
The autorouter will run forever if you let it; it continually tries to find an even better routing solution than the best one it has found so far. If a long time has passed without any updates, you can assume it's not going to get any better and safely click the "Exit" button to stop the autorouter.
The autorouter generates only data about how the board should be routed. It does not actually "place" the routes.
To "place" the routes and generate the other data that's needed to represent a complete board, you need to use the "Handroute" tool. When you start the Handroute tool after finishing autorouting, it will ask you for some parameters it needs, then it will show you the board with the routes in place. Within Handroute, you should at a minimum check that all the routes are ok and run a design rule check (DRC).
So, the basic order in which you use tools is:
SchEdit
PCBEdit
Autoroute
Handroute
PCB Print
Once you get comfortable with this basic workflow, you can begin to learn about how you can move back and forth if you need to.
Hope this helps, -M
To: winqcad_group@yahoogroups.com From: wijono@... Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 09:13:31 +0000 Subject: [winqcad_group] Autorouter and PcbPlot
Hi All
I'm new member here.
I tried to make a pcb of a simple circuit. After drawing the schematic, running pcb layout, I perform an auto-routing.
The autorouter never stop. If I force to stop with Esc button, then the PcbPlot and Pcb print can not run.
Please help me ....
Hi All
I'm new member here.
I tried to make a pcb of a simple circuit. After drawing the schematic, running
pcb layout, I perform an auto-routing.
The autorouter never stop. If I force to stop with Esc button, then the PcbPlot
and Pcb print can not run.
Please help me ....
The easiest way to ensure that the footprint matches your part is to just create a schematic with all your parts on it. It doesn't have to have any connections between the parts, just have the parts in the schematic. Then quickly go through all the steps to create a board, and then output the design file to hardcopy at 1:1. You now have all your footprints on a piece of paper. Just drop your actual parts on top of the paper footprints and check that they all line up. Your Done!
Will
--- On Wed, 5/13/09, neocps1 <draingeard@...> wrote:
From: neocps1 <draingeard@...> Subject: [winqcad_group] Re: XC2S50 and eZ80 To:
winqcad_group@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2009, 2:26 AM
Thank you ! This is also the solution I have found. I have finished designing the eZ80 part, placing the pins the best way to simplify my schematics. Next I will do the same for the xilinx fpga chip. However, the hard part will be to make the package for these chips since I have to be sure it maches the parts footprint and haven't done it yet.
If anyone is interested in these chips, I would be pleased to share them.
Thank you ! This is also the solution I have found. I have finished designing
the eZ80 part, placing the pins the best way to simplify my schematics. Next I
will do the same for the xilinx fpga chip. However, the hard part will be to
make the package for these chips since I have to be sure it maches the parts
footprint and haven't done it yet.
If anyone is interested in these chips, I would be pleased to share them.
The easiest way to get these parts is to just make them!
It is really kind of simple. You should only have to do the schematic symbol, because the packages look to be standard ones that should be available in Qcad.
The data sheets show which pin has which function for each package so all you have to do is open WinQcad, select a project, click on PartEdit, select or create a directory for the part to be saved in in the left window, hit the create button in the right window, put a name in the Product window, click OK, click select in the next window and you're ready to create the part.
It's tedious to enter in the pin name, number and type for each pin but it isn't hard. On the good side you can place the pins in whatever order makes it easiest for you to work in the schematic. I
like to put all my inputs on the left, the outputs on the right, power at the top, and grounds at the bottom.
Good luck. Will
--- On Tue, 5/12/09, neocps1 <draingeard@...> wrote:
From: neocps1 <draingeard@...> Subject: [winqcad_group] XC2S50 and eZ80 To: winqcad_group@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 6:32 AM
Hello,
I can't find these parts in winqcad. Is there a way to get them since I need them for a project ?
This is pretty simple. In PcbEdit select the part you want on the oposite side of the board. Do a CUT on the part. Hit the F2 key to flip the board over. Paste the part.
You're done :-)
Will
--- On Wed, 4/8/09, phamdv2001 <phamdv2001@...> wrote:
From: phamdv2001 <phamdv2001@...> Subject: [winqcad_group] How do I place a SMT component on the bottom of the board To: winqcad_group@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, April 8, 2009, 3:23 PM
I would like to place the SMT component at the bottom of my PCB
Please, show me direction/ steps how to do this.
The connector will be placed on the bottom of the board, but I need to flip the
pin numbers along with the trace in the board layout. Pin 1 must be in pin 2's
position, pin3 must be in pin 4's position, etc. The connector is not polorized
so pin 1 is pin 1 no matter what side of the board the connector is on due to
the lands running to each pin remaining the same. I guess I'll have to redesign
the part.
Thank Will
--- In winqcad_group@yahoogroups.com, Will Wasson <will.wasson@...> wrote:
>
> Do you mean you want to place it on the bottom of the board?
> If it's a through hole component then that would do the trick.
>
> --- On Thu, 3/12/09, cpatnoi <cpatnoi@...> wrote:
>
> From: cpatnoi <cpatnoi@...>
> Subject: [winqcad_group] Flip a part in PcbEdit
> To: winqcad_group@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 5:04 AM
>
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> I'm using a connector, CON_HDR::2X8A. Is there any way to flip
the part in PcbEdit? I can flip it in SchEdit by pressing the "X" key but I
can't flip it in PcbEdit. I can rotate the part but I can't flip the part to
get pin 1 in pin 2's position.
>
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> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Charles Patnoi
>
Do you mean you want to place it on the bottom of the board? If it's a through hole component then that would do the trick.
--- On Thu, 3/12/09, cpatnoi <cpatnoi@...> wrote:
From: cpatnoi <cpatnoi@...> Subject: [winqcad_group] Flip a part in PcbEdit To: winqcad_group@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 5:04 AM
I'm using a connector, CON_HDR::2X8A. Is there any way to flip the part in PcbEdit? I can flip it in SchEdit by pressing the "X" key but I can't flip it in PcbEdit. I can rotate the part but I can't flip the part to get pin 1 in pin 2's position.
I'm using a connector, CON_HDR::2X8A. Is there any way to flip the part in
PcbEdit? I can flip it in SchEdit by pressing the "X" key but I can't flip it
in PcbEdit. I can rotate the part but I can't flip the part to get pin 1 in pin
2's position.
Thanks,
Charles Patnoi
I´ve rying to import Protel DXP footprints libraries into the WinQcad library,
however, I see the extensions are different. WinQcad asks me for files with
extension .lia, and Protel libraries have .Pcblib extension. I tried to change
the extension, but nothing happens, the library "imported" is always empty
without footprints. Does anyone know hot to import these libraries?. Thank You
for your help.
Hello,
I have a 4 layer board design in which the two inner layers are ground
and power.
I need to reduce the zize of the copper on both ground and power planes
(it is similar to placing a void rectangle on those inner planes) so
that can place an RF (printed) antenna on the top layer.
How do resize (or place voids)on the inner copper layers?
Thanks,
Nelson
Hi,
I'm having a problem converting heterogenious parts into
Orcad. All I'm getting are the wires going to the part
but no parts.
Anybody see this before?
Thanks
--- In winqcad_group@yahoogroups.com, "nnavanaza" <nnavarro@...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I have used the manual routing window in WinQcad for a small project.
> When the routing screen pops up, it shows all the placed parts.
> However, The reference designators are larger than the components.
>
> I tried to find a way to resize them but I did not find a way to do
it.
> can any one point me in the right direction to reduce the size of the
> reference designators in the routed board?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Nelson
1. In HandRoute Select TopPrint as foreground layer (cyan) by pressing
F2 several times (or use Set Visible Layers from the View menu).
2. Right click on any text and select Modify.
Warning: Consult your PCB manufacturer for the minimum text size.
Hello,
I have used the manual routing window in WinQcad for a small project.
When the routing screen pops up, it shows all the placed parts.
However, The reference designators are larger than the components.
I tried to find a way to resize them but I did not find a way to do it.
can any one point me in the right direction to reduce the size of the
reference designators in the routed board?
Thanks,
Nelson
--- In winqcad_group@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Ravelle" <markravelle@...>
wrote:
>
> Is it possible to put power planes on the outer layers?
>
Yes, but not in the same way as for other layers (no dedicated or split
planes). Suppose, you want to use the bottom layer as a GND layer.
Then, do the following:
1. Open PcbEdit > Board > Set Routing Parameters dialog.
2. Specify Avoid or Forbid lines on Bottom layer.
After running Autoroute, place a copper pour connected to GND on the
the Bottom layer.
--- In winqcad_group@yahoogroups.com, "n_rohl" <n_rohl@...> wrote:
>
> Is there a way that I can change the colors of the pcb handrouter,
> e.g. set the "view net option" to red, which would give it more
contrast?
>
You can change the color scheme by specifying
'View > Set Black/White Background' in all interactive programs.
All colors change, not just the background color.
--- In winqcad_group@yahoogroups.com, "larry_nh1" <larry.stacy@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I am wondering if there is a way to search for parts across all
> WinQcad component libraries. It looks like I have to manually scan
> library by library if I am not sure where a part might be.
> Other than this, this looks like a decent package.
> Thanks, Larry
>
You have that feature both in PartEdit and PackEdit.
Just press the "List All Products/Packages" button in the corresponding
Part/Package selector.
Hi,
I am wondering if there is a way to search for parts across all
WinQcad component libraries. It looks like I have to manually scan
library by library if I am not sure where a part might be.
Other than this, this looks like a decent package.
Thanks, Larry
Hi,
I did a layout with 0.2 mm trace spacing, but my vendor found a
thinner trace in the gerber files I sent them. I can't find this
trace, is there anyway to locate this trace with you program ?
Thanks,
Phil