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#7370 From: Mr carl azbell <carlazbellpe@...>
Date: Mon Nov 16, 2009 8:14 am
Subject: Re: high temp solder mask 		carlazbellpe
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Syd,
 
I use Sunstone Circuits www.sunstone.com .
 
Every HPHT Memory Recorder is run in the oven for at least 30 days at 200°C, while
its electrical parameters are recorded.  The tools are run on external power in the oven.
 
I don't know how long before the color changes.  Some take longer than 30 days.
I guess I'll figure that out some day.
 
Good luck.
 
Carl
Houston
 

 

From: "AnaLog Services, Inc." <wireline@...>
To: wireline@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, November 15, 2009 10:49:43 PM
Subject: Re: [wireline] high temp solder mask

 



Carl:
 
Who do you like for polyimide boards?
 
Interesting about that color change.  Do you have a feel for how long that takes?  You don't test every tool for 30 days at 200C do you?
 
Syd
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 11:21 PM
Subject: [wireline] high temp solder mask

 

11152009
 
Hi Syd,
 
I have used the standard green solder mask on polyimide board for about the last 20 years.
The pressure memory tools I build are tested for 30 days at 200°C and the
only thing I have noticed is that the solder mask turns from green to solid black
between 190° and 205°C, while the integrity of the solder mask seems to be unaffected.
 
Carl Azbell, P.E.
ETEX INSTRUMENTS LLC
Houston, Texas 
713-907-6030

 

From: "AnaLog Services, Inc." <wireline@mindspring .com>
To: wireline@yahoogroup s.com
Sent: Sun, November 15, 2009 8:23:13 PM
Subject: [wireline] Another Question

 



I have a question for you high temperature genii out there.  I never have run solder mask or silk screen on PCBs used downhole.  The main reason is the low volume I have done, but also because I have always worried about solder mask at high temperature.
 
I have noticed some tool manufacturers now using solder mask and silk screen in downhole tools.  Is this special material, or garden variety mask?
 
Thanks.
 
Syd



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#7369 From: Luke McCormick <mccormickl@...>
Date: Mon Nov 16, 2009 11:41 am
Subject: RE: Global dumbing down on RA? 		lukeirelandm...
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Please note that the source recovery program does not accept sources smaller than multi Curie size. They are not collecting check sources.

Luke McCormick


 
To: wireline@yahoogroups.com
From: wireline@...
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:50:58 -0500
Subject: Re: [wireline] Global dumbing down on RA?

 

Of course we are.  It is the goal of the anti-nukes, and a subset of them dedicated to non-proliferation (outlaw nukes and only the bad guys will have em).  Hardly any high school physics departments, and very few college ones even have check sources since it is just too dangerous.  Many small sealed sources have been removed from college physics programs by the source recovery program in the last few years. 
 
However, I believe congress just passed a bill to establish one or two new reactors to make medical isotopes here in the US (maybe just one chamber has voted on it, dunno for sure).
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: [wireline] Global dumbing down on RA?

 

Hi,

I did an online search when this thread was initiated and (like Bob) came up with the story about Canada shutting down its single, sole source for production of I-131. The sole (approved) new source according to the article is now located in South Africa. From additional online research, the production of I-131 in the Phillipines was shut down and possibly others world wide thanks to IAEA. The IAEA from what I can see is on a mission to remove radio-isotopes globally. When educational research facilities that produce radioactiove elements are systematically shut down globally, the world at large loses intellectual understanding and knowledge of the subject matter.

Are we dumbing down educational research on RA?

Thanks,

Chuck Merritt
President - WELLOG
www.wellog.com

--- On Sat, 11/14/09, Perry Huber <phuber4294@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Perry Huber <phuber4294@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [wireline] (unknown)
To: wireline@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, November 14, 2009, 10:24 AM

 

Call Weatherford in Edmonton - see below for contact info. They still run quite a few tracers using I-131 and used to source it locally.  I can't remember the name of the company that provided them with the tracer but if I recall correctly he was getting it from the Univ. of Alberta.  Ask for the manager of Specialty Services or Produciton Logging.
 
 
Weatherford Canada Partnership (Service Center)
(Cased Hole)

1917A - 84 Avenue
Edmonton, Alberta
Canada
Tel.: 780-464-9625
Fax.: 780-449-3262


--- On Sun, 11/15/09, AnaLog Services, Inc. <wireline@mindspring .com> wrote:

From: AnaLog Services, Inc. <wireline@mindspring .com>
Subject: Re: [wireline] (unknown)
To: wireline@yahoogroup s.com
Received: Sunday, November 15, 2009, 12:13 AM

 
Will ProTechnics sell tracer to other (independent) logging companies?
 
Iodine in pill form?  Is it soluble in water to then use with an ejector?
 
Syd
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 3:26 AM
Subject: [wireline] (unknown)

 
Syd,

ProTechnics handles alot of that business these days or at least they did when I worked for them from 98-06', providing the Iodine, iridium, scandium, antimony, cobalt just to name the main tracers used and personnel to handle them. I know that Cardinal in Lafayette still supplies Iodine in pill form at a reasonable price.

Thanks,
Grant Pierce



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#7368 From: "Iain Maxted" <iain.maxted@...>
Date: Mon Nov 16, 2009 11:22 am
Subject: RE: high temp solder mask 		montykbo
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Syd,
 
We also use standard solder resist and screen printing on polyimide boards with repeated heat cycling - no problem!  Very happy to help although I hesitate to even contemplate the term genii!!
 
Regards,

Iain Maxted
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-----Original Message-----
From: wireline@yahoogroups.com [mailto:wireline@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of AnaLog Services, Inc.
Sent: 16 November 2009 04:50
To: wireline@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [wireline] high temp solder mask

 



Carl:
 
Who do you like for polyimide boards?
 
Interesting about that color change.  Do you have a feel for how long that takes?  You don't test every tool for 30 days at 200C do you?
 
Syd
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 11:21 PM
Subject: [wireline] high temp solder mask

 

11152009
 
Hi Syd,
 
I have used the standard green solder mask on polyimide board for about the last 20 years.
The pressure memory tools I build are tested for 30 days at 200°C and the
only thing I have noticed is that the solder mask turns from green to solid black
between 190° and 205°C, while the integrity of the solder mask seems to be unaffected.
 
Carl Azbell, P.E.
ETEX INSTRUMENTS LLC
Houston, Texas 
713-907-6030

 

From: "AnaLog Services, Inc." <wireline@mindspring.com>
To: wireline@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, November 15, 2009 8:23:13 PM
Subject: [wireline] Another Question

 



I have a question for you high temperature genii out there.  I never have run solder mask or silk screen on PCBs used downhole.  The main reason is the low volume I have done, but also because I have always worried about solder mask at high temperature.
 
I have noticed some tool manufacturers now using solder mask and silk screen in downhole tools.  Is this special material, or garden variety mask?
 
Thanks.
 
Syd


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#7367 From: "AnaLog Services, Inc." <wireline@...>
Date: Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:49 am
Subject: Re: high temp solder mask 		sydlevine
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Carl:
 
Who do you like for polyimide boards?
 
Interesting about that color change.  Do you have a feel for how long that takes?  You don't test every tool for 30 days at 200C do you?
 
Syd
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 11:21 PM
Subject: [wireline] high temp solder mask

 

11152009
 
Hi Syd,
 
I have used the standard green solder mask on polyimide board for about the last 20 years.
The pressure memory tools I build are tested for 30 days at 200°C and the
only thing I have noticed is that the solder mask turns from green to solid black
between 190° and 205°C, while the integrity of the solder mask seems to be unaffected.
 
Carl Azbell, P.E.
ETEX INSTRUMENTS LLC
Houston, Texas 
713-907-6030

 

From: "AnaLog Services, Inc." <wireline@mindspring.com>
To: wireline@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, November 15, 2009 8:23:13 PM
Subject: [wireline] Another Question

 



I have a question for you high temperature genii out there.  I never have run solder mask or silk screen on PCBs used downhole.  The main reason is the low volume I have done, but also because I have always worried about solder mask at high temperature.
 
I have noticed some tool manufacturers now using solder mask and silk screen in downhole tools.  Is this special material, or garden variety mask?
 
Thanks.
 
Syd


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#7366 From: "AnaLog Services, Inc." <wireline@...>
Date: Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:45 am
Subject: Re: Another Question 		sydlevine
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Oh, I think you are on my short list of genii (it actually is an accepted plural form of genius).
 
I have thought about that wave soldering thing, and figured the stuff must be pretty tough.  I use a lot of FR4 right up to its temperature limit, and worried that might be a factor.  FR4 will work for ages at 300F, and for a good while at 350F though it will darken at that temperature after a bit of time.
 
Syd
   
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: [wireline] Another Question

 

Syd,

I'm not a genii, but solder mask WILL endure wave soldering. There may be a specialized masking product for "high temp" but I haven't heard of one.

Chuck

--- On Sun, 11/15/09, AnaLog Services, Inc. <wireline@mindspring.com> wrote:

From: AnaLog Services, Inc. <wireline@mindspring.com>
Subject: [wireline] Another Question
To: wireline@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 15, 2009, 7:23 PM

 



I have a question for you high temperature genii out there.  I never have run solder mask or silk screen on PCBs used downhole.  The main reason is the low volume I have done, but also because I have always worried about solder mask at high temperature.
 
I have noticed some tool manufacturers now using solder mask and silk screen in downhole tools.  Is this special material, or garden variety mask?
 
Thanks.
 
Syd


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#7365 From: Mr carl azbell <carlazbellpe@...>
Date: Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:21 am
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11152009
 
Hi Syd,
 
I have used the standard green solder mask on polyimide board for about the last 20 years.
The pressure memory tools I build are tested for 30 days at 200°C and the
only thing I have noticed is that the solder mask turns from green to solid black
between 190° and 205°C, while the integrity of the solder mask seems to be unaffected.
 
Carl Azbell, P.E.
ETEX INSTRUMENTS LLC
Houston, Texas 
713-907-6030

 

From: "AnaLog Services, Inc." <wireline@...>
To: wireline@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, November 15, 2009 8:23:13 PM
Subject: [wireline] Another Question

 



I have a question for you high temperature genii out there.  I never have run solder mask or silk screen on PCBs used downhole.  The main reason is the low volume I have done, but also because I have always worried about solder mask at high temperature.
 
I have noticed some tool manufacturers now using solder mask and silk screen in downhole tools.  Is this special material, or garden variety mask?
 
Thanks.
 
Syd


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#7364 From: chuck.merritt@...
Date: Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:00 am
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Syd,

I'm not a genii, but solder mask WILL endure wave soldering. There may be a specialized masking product for "high temp" but I haven't heard of one.

Chuck

--- On Sun, 11/15/09, AnaLog Services, Inc. <wireline@...> wrote:

From: AnaLog Services, Inc. <wireline@...>
Subject: [wireline] Another Question
To: wireline@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 15, 2009, 7:23 PM

 



I have a question for you high temperature genii out there.  I never have run solder mask or silk screen on PCBs used downhole.  The main reason is the low volume I have done, but also because I have always worried about solder mask at high temperature.
 
I have noticed some tool manufacturers now using solder mask and silk screen in downhole tools.  Is this special material, or garden variety mask?
 
Thanks.
 
Syd

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#7363 From: "AnaLog Services, Inc." <wireline@...>
Date: Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:23 am
Subject: Another Question 		sydlevine
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I have a question for you high temperature genii out there.  I never have run solder mask or silk screen on PCBs used downhole.  The main reason is the low volume I have done, but also because I have always worried about solder mask at high temperature.
 
I have noticed some tool manufacturers now using solder mask and silk screen in downhole tools.  Is this special material, or garden variety mask?
 
Thanks.
 
Syd

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#7362 From: "AnaLog Services, Inc." <wireline@...>
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 5:50 pm
Subject: Re: Global dumbing down on RA? 		sydlevine
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Of course we are.  It is the goal of the anti-nukes, and a subset of them dedicated to non-proliferation (outlaw nukes and only the bad guys will have em).  Hardly any high school physics departments, and very few college ones even have check sources since it is just too dangerous.  Many small sealed sources have been removed from college physics programs by the source recovery program in the last few years. 
 
However, I believe congress just passed a bill to establish one or two new reactors to make medical isotopes here in the US (maybe just one chamber has voted on it, dunno for sure).
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: [wireline] Global dumbing down on RA?

 

Hi,

I did an online search when this thread was initiated and (like Bob) came up with the story about Canada shutting down its single, sole source for production of I-131. The sole (approved) new source according to the article is now located in South Africa. From additional online research, the production of I-131 in the Phillipines was shut down and possibly others world wide thanks to IAEA. The IAEA from what I can see is on a mission to remove radio-isotopes globally. When educational research facilities that produce radioactiove elements are systematically shut down globally, the world at large loses intellectual understanding and knowledge of the subject matter.

Are we dumbing down educational research on RA?

Thanks,

Chuck Merritt
President - WELLOG
www.wellog.com

--- On Sat, 11/14/09, Perry Huber <phuber4294@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Perry Huber <phuber4294@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [wireline] (unknown)
To: wireline@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, November 14, 2009, 10:24 AM

 

Call Weatherford in Edmonton - see below for contact info. They still run quite a few tracers using I-131 and used to source it locally.  I can't remember the name of the company that provided them with the tracer but if I recall correctly he was getting it from the Univ. of Alberta.  Ask for the manager of Specialty Services or Produciton Logging.
 
 
Weatherford Canada Partnership (Service Center)
(Cased Hole)

1917A - 84 Avenue
Edmonton, Alberta
Canada
Tel.: 780-464-9625
Fax.: 780-449-3262


--- On Sun, 11/15/09, AnaLog Services, Inc. <wireline@mindspring .com> wrote:

From: AnaLog Services, Inc. <wireline@mindspring .com>
Subject: Re: [wireline] (unknown)
To: wireline@yahoogroup s.com
Received: Sunday, November 15, 2009, 12:13 AM

 
Will ProTechnics sell tracer to other (independent) logging companies?
 
Iodine in pill form?  Is it soluble in water to then use with an ejector?
 
Syd
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 3:26 AM
Subject: [wireline] (unknown)

 
Syd,

ProTechnics handles alot of that business these days or at least they did when I worked for them from 98-06', providing the Iodine, iridium, scandium, antimony, cobalt just to name the main tracers used and personnel to handle them. I know that Cardinal in Lafayette still supplies Iodine in pill form at a reasonable price.

Thanks,
Grant Pierce


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#7361 From: chuck.merritt@...
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 2:45 pm
Subject: Re: Global dumbing down on RA? 		chucks_stuff...
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More appropriately, is IAEA dumbing down research on RA?

Here's a link to the recent market wire article:

http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/Health-Canada-1013205.html

Chuck


--- On Sun, 11/15/09, chuck.merritt@... <chuck.merritt@...> wrote:

From: chuck.merritt@... <chuck.merritt@...>
Subject: Re: [wireline] Global dumbing down on RA?
To: wireline@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 15, 2009, 7:39 AM

 

Hi,

I did an online search when this thread was initiated and (like Bob) came up with the story about Canada shutting down its single, sole source for production of I-131. The sole (approved) new source according to the article is now located in South Africa. From additional online research, the production of I-131 in the Phillipines was shut down and possibly others world wide thanks to IAEA. The IAEA from what I can see is on a mission to remove radio-isotopes globally. When educational research facilities that produce radioactiove elements are systematically shut down globally, the world at large loses intellectual understanding and knowledge of the subject matter.

Are we dumbing down educational research on RA?

Thanks,

Chuck Merritt
President - WELLOG
www.wellog.com

--- On Sat, 11/14/09, Perry Huber <phuber4294@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Perry Huber <phuber4294@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [wireline] (unknown)
To: wireline@yahoogroup s.com
Date: Saturday, November 14, 2009, 10:24 AM

 

Call Weatherford in Edmonton - see below for contact info. They still run quite a few tracers using I-131 and used to source it locally.  I can't remember the name of the company that provided them with the tracer but if I recall correctly he was getting it from the Univ. of Alberta.  Ask for the manager of Specialty Services or Produciton Logging.
 
 
Weatherford Canada Partnership (Service Center)
(Cased Hole)

1917A - 84 Avenue
Edmonton, Alberta
Canada
Tel.: 780-464-9625
Fax.: 780-449-3262


--- On Sun, 11/15/09, AnaLog Services, Inc. <wireline@mindspring .com> wrote:

From: AnaLog Services, Inc. <wireline@mindspring .com>
Subject: Re: [wireline] (unknown)
To: wireline@yahoogroup s.com
Received: Sunday, November 15, 2009, 12:13 AM

 
Will ProTechnics sell tracer to other (independent) logging companies?
 
Iodine in pill form?  Is it soluble in water to then use with an ejector?
 
Syd
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 3:26 AM
Subject: [wireline] (unknown)

 
Syd,

ProTechnics handles alot of that business these days or at least they did when I worked for them from 98-06', providing the Iodine, iridium, scandium, antimony, cobalt just to name the main tracers used and personnel to handle them. I know that Cardinal in Lafayette still supplies Iodine in pill form at a reasonable price.

Thanks,
Grant Pierce


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#7360 From: chuck.merritt@...
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 2:39 pm
Subject: Re: Global dumbing down on RA? 		chucks_stuff...
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Hi,

I did an online search when this thread was initiated and (like Bob) came up with the story about Canada shutting down its single, sole source for production of I-131. The sole (approved) new source according to the article is now located in South Africa. From additional online research, the production of I-131 in the Phillipines was shut down and possibly others world wide thanks to IAEA. The IAEA from what I can see is on a mission to remove radio-isotopes globally. When educational research facilities that produce radioactiove elements are systematically shut down globally, the world at large loses intellectual understanding and knowledge of the subject matter.

Are we dumbing down educational research on RA?

Thanks,

Chuck Merritt
President - WELLOG
www.wellog.com

--- On Sat, 11/14/09, Perry Huber <phuber4294@...> wrote:

From: Perry Huber <phuber4294@...>
Subject: Re: [wireline] (unknown)
To: wireline@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, November 14, 2009, 10:24 AM

 

Call Weatherford in Edmonton - see below for contact info. They still run quite a few tracers using I-131 and used to source it locally.  I can't remember the name of the company that provided them with the tracer but if I recall correctly he was getting it from the Univ. of Alberta.  Ask for the manager of Specialty Services or Produciton Logging.
 
 
Weatherford Canada Partnership (Service Center)
(Cased Hole)

1917A - 84 Avenue
Edmonton, Alberta
Canada
Tel.: 780-464-9625
Fax.: 780-449-3262


--- On Sun, 11/15/09, AnaLog Services, Inc. <wireline@mindspring .com> wrote:

From: AnaLog Services, Inc. <wireline@mindspring .com>
Subject: Re: [wireline] (unknown)
To: wireline@yahoogroup s.com
Received: Sunday, November 15, 2009, 12:13 AM

 
Will ProTechnics sell tracer to other (independent) logging companies?
 
Iodine in pill form?  Is it soluble in water to then use with an ejector?
 
Syd
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 3:26 AM
Subject: [wireline] (unknown)

 
Syd,

ProTechnics handles alot of that business these days or at least they did when I worked for them from 98-06', providing the Iodine, iridium, scandium, antimony, cobalt just to name the main tracers used and personnel to handle them. I know that Cardinal in Lafayette still supplies Iodine in pill form at a reasonable price.

Thanks,
Grant Pierce


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#7359 From: Perry Huber <phuber4294@...>
Date: Sat Nov 14, 2009 5:24 pm
Subject: Re: (unknown) 		phuber4294
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Call Weatherford in Edmonton - see below for contact info. They still run quite a few tracers using I-131 and used to source it locally.  I can't remember the name of the company that provided them with the tracer but if I recall correctly he was getting it from the Univ. of Alberta.  Ask for the manager of Specialty Services or Produciton Logging.
 
 
Weatherford Canada Partnership (Service Center)
(Cased Hole)

1917A - 84 Avenue
Edmonton, Alberta
Canada
Tel.: 780-464-9625
Fax.: 780-449-3262


--- On Sun, 11/15/09, AnaLog Services, Inc. <wireline@...> wrote:

From: AnaLog Services, Inc. <wireline@...>
Subject: Re: [wireline] (unknown)
To: wireline@yahoogroups.com
Received: Sunday, November 15, 2009, 12:13 AM

 
Will ProTechnics sell tracer to other (independent) logging companies?
 
Iodine in pill form?  Is it soluble in water to then use with an ejector?
 
Syd
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 3:26 AM
Subject: [wireline] (unknown)

 
Syd,

ProTechnics handles alot of that business these days or at least they did when I worked for them from 98-06', providing the Iodine, iridium, scandium, antimony, cobalt just to name the main tracers used and personnel to handle them. I know that Cardinal in Lafayette still supplies Iodine in pill form at a reasonable price.

Thanks,
Grant Pierce


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#7358 From: "AnaLog Services, Inc." <wireline@...>
Date: Sat Nov 14, 2009 4:13 pm
Subject: Re: (unknown) 		sydlevine
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Will ProTechnics sell tracer to other (independent) logging companies?
 
Iodine in pill form?  Is it soluble in water to then use with an ejector?
 
Syd
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 3:26 AM
Subject: [wireline] (unknown)

 

Syd,

ProTechnics handles alot of that business these days or at least they did when I worked for them from 98-06', providing the Iodine, iridium, scandium, antimony, cobalt just to name the main tracers used and personnel to handle them. I know that Cardinal in Lafayette still supplies Iodine in pill form at a reasonable price.

Thanks,
Grant Pierce


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#7357 From: Grant Pierce <gpierce74@...>
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Syd,

ProTechnics handles alot of that business these days or at least they did when I
worked for them from 98-06', providing the Iodine, iridium, scandium, antimony,
cobalt just to name the main tracers used and personnel to handle them. I know
that Cardinal in Lafayette still supplies Iodine in pill form at a reasonable
price.

Thanks,
   Grant Pierce

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#7356 From: "AnaLog Services, Inc." <wireline@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:32 pm
Subject: Re: Red Cement 		sydlevine
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You can get the dye at any concrete place.  They may also have it at places like Lowe's or Home Despot.
 
Syd
 
----- Original Message -----
From: GaryF
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 12:06 PM
Subject: [wireline] Red Cement

 

What can be mixed in with cement to make it red in color. An open hole company lost a source in a well and the government regulators want red cement dumped on top of the fish. The local cement companies don't have any red coloring. thanks.

Gary


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#7355 From: Bob Paddock <graceindustries@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:19 pm
Subject: Re: PCB Software 		ka8bmt
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On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 6:22 PM, AnaLog Services, Inc. <wireline@...> wrote:


I am unhappy with my current PCB design software.  I am looking seriously at Eagle, but I dunno.  Decisions, decisions.  The NI stuff is ridiculously expensive as are many other commercial offerings.
 
 
Anybody using anything that does not cost an arm and a leg that they like?


PCB is an Open Source package.  It is what I use for layouts.
http://gpleda.org/  I've been, all to slowly, working on improving the Windows port.

Avoid Protel/Altium.  I have to use it in the Day Job, don't like it a bit.






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#7354 From: "GaryF" <garyfloyd94@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 5:06 pm
Subject: Red Cement 		garyfloyd94
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What can be mixed in with cement to make it red in color. An open hole company
lost a source in a well and the government regulators want red cement dumped on
top of the fish. The local cement companies don't have any red coloring. thanks.

Gary

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#7353 From: "oil4less" <oil4less@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:07 am
Subject: Re: Multi ring connector 		oil4less
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Look at Lemo Part Number ERN.1D.694.CNA, Size/Series 1D / 1D

Shell Style/Model

ERN*: Fixed receptacle, nut fixing, with earthing tab
Keying

Circular (can rotate), plug has female contact(s)
Housing Material

Brass (chrome plated) shell and collet nut, nickel plated brass latch sleeve and
mid pieces; Insert Configuration 1D.694 : 1 Quadrax


--- In wireline@yahoogroups.com, "AnaLog Services, Inc." <wireline@...> wrote:
>
> I have only seen the coaxial ones from Lemo.  The ones I have are four
conductor and ground, and are very compact.  Lord knows where I got them.
>
> What is the style of the ones you order?  Are they the racetrack style?
>
> Syd
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Ray Ethridge
>   To: wireline@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 11:47 AM
>   Subject: Re: [wireline] Multi ring connector
>
>
>     
>
>   I buy some of them from
>   Component Electronics
>   PO Box 1152
>   Lewisville, TX 75067
>   Attn:  Laura Hughes
>
>   979 219-1774
>
>   I have not ordered the coaxial types though, I don't know if they carry them
or not.
>
>   Ray Ethridge
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: AnaLog Services, Inc.
>     To: wireline@yahoogroups.com
>     Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 10:08 AM
>     Subject: Re: [wireline] Multi ring connector
>
>
>
>     
>
>     Does anybody stock the Lemo connectors in the US?
>
>       ----- Original Message -----
>       From: Paul Church
>       To: wireline@yahoogroups.com
>       Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 3:14 AM
>       Subject: Re: [wireline] Multi ring connector
>
>
>
>
>       I’ve used the Lemo concentric connectors for many years at up to
175degC and I believe they’ve developed a 200degC rated more durable version.
They’re good but you need to ensure you keep them clean and well maintained.
>
>
>       The other, more expensive but higher spec, option is to go for Wireline
Technologies (http://www.wirelinetech.com/rotary-connector.php) or Greene Tweed
‘seal-connect’ rotatable types.
>
>
>       Paul
>
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>       From: "AnaLog Services, Inc." <wireline@...>
>       To: wireline@yahoogroups.com
>       Sent: Wed, 4 November, 2009 1:14:52
>       Subject: Re: [wireline] Multi ring connector
>
>
>
>       If Steve can't fix you up, try Williams Instrument in Fort Worth.  I
have some from them that look like fancy phone plugs and jacks.  I have no idea
if they are even still around.
>
>       LEMO makes some really nice miniature units.  I am holding one marked
ERN.1S with four conductors in a coaxial arrangement.
>
>       Syd
>
>
>         ----- Original Message -----
>         From: AnaLog Services, Inc.
>         To: wireline@yahoogroup s.com
>         Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 5:26 PM
>         Subject: Re: [wireline] Multi ring connector
>
>
>
>
>         Do you mean like a "racetrack" connector?  Comprobe use to roll their
own, but I have seen some commercial units.  One trick is to use a stereo phone
plug and jack.  If you insulate the mounting, that gives you three hot
connections plus housing ground.  I tend to think poorboy on these things.
>
>         Syd
>
>           ----- Original Message -----
>           From: techmasterman
>           To: wireline@yahoogroup s.com
>           Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 4:51 PM
>           Subject: [wireline] Multi ring connector
>
>
>
>           I'm looking for a four conductor ring connection to place in a tool.
I'm having trouble finding one. It's the rotary type. Does anyone know what
company sells this kind.
>           Thanks,
>
>           Techmasterman
>

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#7352 From: "oil4less" <oil4less@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:54 am
Subject: Re: Multi ring connector 		oil4less
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Check out their website; they are good on samples..

--- In wireline@yahoogroups.com, "AnaLog Services, Inc." <wireline@...> wrote:
>
> Does anybody stock the Lemo connectors in the US?
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Paul Church
>   To: wireline@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 3:14 AM
>   Subject: Re: [wireline] Multi ring connector
>
>
>
>   I’ve used the Lemo concentric connectors for many years at up to 175degC
and I believe they’ve developed a 200degC rated more durable version.
They’re good but you need to ensure you keep them clean and well maintained.
>
>
>
>   The other, more expensive but higher spec, option is to go for Wireline
Technologies (http://www.wirelinetech.com/rotary-connector.php) or Greene Tweed
‘seal-connect’ rotatable types.
>
>
>
>   Paul
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>   From: "AnaLog Services, Inc." <wireline@...>
>   To: wireline@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Wed, 4 November, 2009 1:14:52
>   Subject: Re: [wireline] Multi ring connector
>
>
>
>   If Steve can't fix you up, try Williams Instrument in Fort Worth.  I have
some from them that look like fancy phone plugs and jacks.  I have no idea if
they are even still around.
>
>   LEMO makes some really nice miniature units.  I am holding one marked ERN.1S
with four conductors in a coaxial arrangement.
>
>   Syd
>
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: AnaLog Services, Inc.
>     To: wireline@yahoogroup s.com
>     Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 5:26 PM
>     Subject: Re: [wireline] Multi ring connector
>
>
>
>
>     Do you mean like a "racetrack" connector?  Comprobe use to roll their own,
but I have seen some commercial units.  One trick is to use a stereo phone plug
and jack.  If you insulate the mounting, that gives you three hot connections
plus housing ground.  I tend to think poorboy on these things.
>
>     Syd
>
>       ----- Original Message -----
>       From: techmasterman
>       To: wireline@yahoogroup s.com
>       Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 4:51 PM
>       Subject: [wireline] Multi ring connector
>
>
>
>       I'm looking for a four conductor ring connection to place in a tool. I'm
having trouble finding one. It's the rotary type. Does anyone know what company
sells this kind.
>       Thanks,
>
>       Techmasterman
>

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#7351 From: "AnaLog Services, Inc." <wireline@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 7:31 am
Subject: Re: PCB Software 		sydlevine
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If I go with Eagle, at least I will be in good company!  I downloaded the demo version of Eagle and played with it a bit tonight. 
 
My problem is that my needs are so rudimentary, these full-featured programs are all serious overkill for me.
 
Syd
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 1:29 AM
Subject: Re: [wireline] PCB Software

 

We use Eagle, not the most user friendly stuff out there but quite servicable when you learn how to run it. 
 
Ray Ethridge
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 5:22 PM
Subject: [wireline] PCB Software

 

I am unhappy with my current PCB design software.  I am looking seriously at Eagle, but I dunno.  Decisions, decisions.  The NI stuff is ridiculously expensive as are many other commercial offerings.
 
Anybody using anything that does not cost an arm and a leg that they like?
 
Syd


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#7350 From: "Ray Ethridge" <ray@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:29 am
Subject: Re: PCB Software 		chaphilltx
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We use Eagle, not the most user friendly stuff out there but quite servicable when you learn how to run it. 
 
Ray Ethridge
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 5:22 PM
Subject: [wireline] PCB Software

 

I am unhappy with my current PCB design software.  I am looking seriously at Eagle, but I dunno.  Decisions, decisions.  The NI stuff is ridiculously expensive as are many other commercial offerings.
 
Anybody using anything that does not cost an arm and a leg that they like?
 
Syd


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#7349 From: Wijoyo Utomo <utomow@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:02 am
Subject: Re: PCB Software 		utomow2005
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Syd,

try to have a look at Kicad. It is free. IIRC, it is available both in
Wins and Linux.

Rgds.
Wijoyo

On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 18:22 -0500, AnaLog Services, Inc. wrote:
>
> I am unhappy with my current PCB design software.  I am looking
> seriously at Eagle, but I dunno.  Decisions, decisions.  The NI stuff
> is ridiculously expensive as are many other commercial offerings.
>
> Anybody using anything that does not cost an arm and a leg that they
> like?
>
> Syd
>

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#7348 From: "AnaLog Services, Inc." <wireline@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:22 pm
Subject: PCB Software 		sydlevine
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I am unhappy with my current PCB design software.  I am looking seriously at Eagle, but I dunno.  Decisions, decisions.  The NI stuff is ridiculously expensive as are many other commercial offerings.
 
Anybody using anything that does not cost an arm and a leg that they like?
 
Syd

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#7347 From: teadure@...
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 5:54 pm
Subject: Re: GIT 		jamcostroker
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Wireline truck fab in seguine, tx does have used equip that is either useable or refurbishable

Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

From: "Phil Forbes" <phil.forbes@...>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:21:59 -0600
To: <wireline@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [wireline] GIT

 

Does anyone have any skid mounted, sweet service 5K GIT equipment they are looking to get rid of?

 

Phil Forbes

Hotwell US

P.O. Box 672721

Houston, TX  77267

 

Office       (281) 598-9990

Fax           (281) 598-9995

Cell           (713) 299-7886

email        phil.forbes@hotwellus.com

 

 

 


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#7346 From: John Beadle <johnbeadle38@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 6:18 pm
Subject: Re: Radioactive Tracer 		johnbeadle38
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Cardinal Health in lafayette louisiana at one time supplied us at a very reasonable price but as you have said teh last tracer survey that i have ran was in 1998

From: "AnaLog Services, Inc." <wireline@...>
To: wireline@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, November 12, 2009 1:18:48 AM
Subject: [wireline] Radioactive Tracer

 

I received an interesting call yesterday from a medical isotope vendor interested in the well logging market.  As far as I know Isotech is about the only show in town, and they only provide 1-131 these days.
 
Is there another vendor out there besides Isotech?  I have run into a couple of loggers who buy from radiopharmacies, but it is my understanding the cost is high.  There was an outfit in Canada, but they seem to have disappeared.
 
Is there a demand for tracer material sufficient to support a couple of vendors in the oil patch?  Is there a demand for other isotopes in addition to I-131?
 
I tried to answer this fellow's questions intelligently, but I have been away from tracers for several years, and may not be up on the latest and greatest.
 
Syd H. Levine
AnaLog Services, Inc.
Phone:  (270) 276-5671
Telefax:  (270) 276-5588
E-mail:  analog@logwell. com
Web URL:  www.logwell. com
 


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#7345 From: "Phil Forbes" <phil.forbes@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:21 pm
Subject: GIT 		forbphia
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Does anyone have any skid mounted, sweet service 5K GIT equipment they are looking to get rid of?

 

Phil Forbes

Hotwell US

P.O. Box 672721

Houston, TX  77267

 

Office       (281) 598-9990

Fax           (281) 598-9995

Cell           (713) 299-7886

email        phil.forbes@...

 

 

 


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#7344 From: Bob Paddock <graceindustries@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 1:04 pm
Subject: Re: Radioactive Tracer 		ka8bmt
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On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 2:18 AM, AnaLog Services, Inc. <wireline@...> wrote:


I received an interesting call yesterday from a medical isotope vendor interested in the well logging market.  As far as I know Isotech is about the only show in town, and they only provide 1-131 these days.
 
Is there another vendor out there besides Isotech?  I have run into a couple of loggers who buy from radiopharmacies, but it is my understanding the cost is high.  There was an outfit in Canada, but they seem to have disappeared.

"Atomic Energy of Canada Ltd shut down its 50-year-old reactor at Chalk River, Ontario, after a small leak of heavy water, used as part of the nuclear reaction."
http://www.reuters.com/article/healthNews/idUSTRE54K63520090521

Google "shortage of medical isotopes" for more info.



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#7343 From: "AnaLog Services, Inc." <wireline@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:18 am
Subject: Radioactive Tracer 		sydlevine
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I received an interesting call yesterday from a medical isotope vendor interested in the well logging market.  As far as I know Isotech is about the only show in town, and they only provide 1-131 these days.
 
Is there another vendor out there besides Isotech?  I have run into a couple of loggers who buy from radiopharmacies, but it is my understanding the cost is high.  There was an outfit in Canada, but they seem to have disappeared.
 
Is there a demand for tracer material sufficient to support a couple of vendors in the oil patch?  Is there a demand for other isotopes in addition to I-131?
 
I tried to answer this fellow's questions intelligently, but I have been away from tracers for several years, and may not be up on the latest and greatest.
 
Syd H. Levine
AnaLog Services, Inc.
Phone:  (270) 276-5671
Telefax:  (270) 276-5588
E-mail:  analog@...
Web URL:  www.logwell.com
 

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#7342 From: "kkjhouston791956" <kjordan@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:19 pm
Subject: Core Gun Parts 		kkjhouston79...
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There was a company here in Houston at one time called Formula Manufacturing
that built parts for sidewall core guns (barrels, cables, etc.).  The parts
would fit into the old Gearhart manufactured core gun bodies.  I no longer have
their contact information.

Does someone have their information, if they are still in business?  If they
aren't, does anyone know if they sold inventory or drawings so someone could
keep manufacturing?

Is there another supplier of core gun parts anywhere that anyone is aware of?

Any help is appreciated.


Kenny Jordan
Executive Director
AESC

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#7341 From: "georgeinwooster" <georgeinwooster@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:40 pm
Subject: Shot Magazine 		georgeinwooster
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Looking for a used perforating shot magazine for indoor storage.

Any out there?

Thanks -

George Newberger

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