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RE: [wmlprogramming] more vodafone bs

Well . it goes something like this .



The company I work for is US based . but my wife works for a UK company
which is also responsible for some parts of the Vodafone portal. So she told
me that something like this was coming along as they had received a
notification about the changes from them and that their devs had to do some
work to get their services inline with the changes before they went live.



Any how . I kinda forgot about it when suddenly one day (while we're trying
to demo our products to a client) - we start getting the Vodafone branded
red bars all over our mobile site - which is only just a provisioning site
for our mobile application we sell. Next thing I know it also trying to
download a windows cab file onto a Nokia device . so I go check the logs and
see hey . "where's my phones useragent?"



Then I thought I better check it against my wurlf based test site and I get
the same thing . red advertising bars and the same mozilla -linux based
useragent . tried it on Orange using the same device and it worked as per
normal.



And then I searched around online and found the Betavine site . I was like
the 3rd person to post something on their forum.
(http://www.vodafonebetavine.net/web/guest/forums/message_boards/message/446
) . It's been almost a month now and I'm still not on the whitelist . and by
God I'm not going to go make all those silly changes they want you to make .
if I had to tell our head office in the US about this they'd laugh.



All I can say is thank god we don't have UK clients yet .



I explained on the forum that our mobile service doesn't even serv pages for
normal mobile browsers - it's a client/server application in our own custom
markup . and that they are messing with it!



Nuff said . I've said my say and lot's of others have too . Lets see if they
can dig their way out of their hole they have made. *grin*



_____

From: wmlprogramming@yahoogroups.com [mailto:wmlprogramming@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Luca Passani
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 8:58 PM
To: wmlprogramming@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [wmlprogramming] more vodafone bs



Andre van den Heever wrote:
> Here here . I've also been on their case about this . and other lame stuff
> the WTE does :P
>
can you share your experience?

Luca





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People, the guy from vodafone has just added more bullshit about why vodafone absolutely needs to change the user-agent (thread is called *Rationale behind...
Luca Passani
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Sep 19, 2007
11:53 am

Luca, I agree with you on the UA subject matter, but I don't agree with the way you express your opinion. You attack them and they defend. It is natural. And...
Miha Valencic
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Sep 19, 2007
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I disagree. If hiding the UA is their hidden agenda, cutting the crap will help us unveil the real intentions. Calming down gives them more space for...
Luca Passani
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Sep 19, 2007
3:13 pm

I don't know of companies, which are being "damaged" by Vodafone's behaviour. Maybe someone (who is present here??) should be more vocal about it. I know for...
Miha Valencic
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Sep 19, 2007
5:33 pm

... Here we are. We are being damaged, and the "Or something" assumption is, I'm afraid, a very bad one. We are business partner of Vodafone UK, but got no ...
Michele Bariani
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Sep 20, 2007
3:57 pm

Michelle, I am interested in your story. So, they screwed you. I'd like to know: 1) How many users (if you have data) actually clicked on the "unmodified" link...
Miha Valencic
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Sep 20, 2007
6:15 pm

... 1) I don't have that number/percentage, although I agree it would be an interesting figure to know. Beside, WAP page browsing in our UK business is quite...
Michele Bariani
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Sep 21, 2007
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my passionate, and perhaps over-the-top 2 cents... ...fcuk a calm dialog. Making noise in this case is justified as other operators may follow suit. Question:...
David Harper
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Sep 19, 2007
6:48 pm

... This is a good idea. You might even display the message "Your operator (Vodafone UK) is preventing us from recognizing your phone. Please do this and this...
Luca Passani
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Sep 19, 2007
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Here here . I've also been on their case about this . and other lame stuff the WTE does :P _____ From: wmlprogramming@yahoogroups.com...
Andre van den Heever
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Sep 19, 2007
7:47 pm

... can you share your experience? Luca...
Luca Passani
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Sep 19, 2007
8:04 pm

Well . it goes something like this . The company I work for is US based . but my wife works for a UK company which is also responsible for some parts of the...
Andre van den Heever
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Sep 19, 2007
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What can one say? I wish I had those $80.000 required to join W3C, so I could use it to take vodafone to court... :) Luca...
Luca Passani
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Sep 19, 2007
9:51 pm

It requires $80.000 to join the W3C? WTF? What does your money buy you? What about independent experts? Mobile needs an WHATWG equivalent. :) ...
Jason Delport
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Sep 20, 2007
9:29 am

... You are certainly making less than 51M Euro a year, so the W3C membership fee is only 6500 Euro for you. I just don't know if they would be well spent. ...
Andrea Trasatti
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Sep 20, 2007
7:33 pm

... yes. And it's Vodafone UK's fault! Luca PS: Just kidding ;)...
Luca Passani
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Sep 20, 2007
10:08 pm

Hi Luca, thank you for this article, although not yet being active in the UK i fully support you By this approach Vodafone destroys the work of thousands...
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