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Hi all,

We've been trying to organize, at least in our minds, physical pixel
sizes. This is especially true with some of the latest devices out
there. As a designer, I need to predict that this 15 pixel icon I'm
designing will be visible on different devices. Right now it will.

On 128 pixel wide screens, this image will be approximately 3.4 mm.
On 176 pixel wide screens, this image will be approximately 2.5 mm.
On a Nokia N96, this image will be 2.7 mm.
On a HTC Touch Diamond, this image will be 1.3 mm.
On a SonyEricsson Xperia, this image will be 1.2 mm.

The first two estimates will vary wildly, as the pixel density vary
wildly. But it looks like the larger the screen, the smaller the pixel.

Unfortunately, the human eye doesn't change accordingly. And that
heuristic will fail in certain situations.

So I'm going after physical screen dimensions, preferably expressed in
millimeter height and width. I'll use this for font sizing and image
sizing. I've already started collecting actual data (please help! see
blog entry below)

Could we have this added to the data structure?

http://www.littlespringsdesign.com/blog/blog/2008/10/23/screen-sizes-and-analyti\
cs/



While we are at it, for Java I also want
device_provides_separate_back_button so I know when using low level
design elements when I can use the softkeys for something useful
rather than back.


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Barbara Ballard
barbara@...

Designing compelling, usable, and device-appropriate software and web
sites for mobile devices.






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Hi all, We've been trying to organize, at least in our minds, physical pixel sizes. This is especially true with some of the latest devices out there. As a...
Barbara Ballard
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Oct 23, 2008
10:37 pm

Barbara, what about DPI capability? From that, and from pixels, you can calculate the screen dimension from it. I don't know, though, whether horizontal and...
Miha Valencic
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Oct 24, 2008
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... As long as we go with pixels per inch (not dots per inch), I'm good. But that data has two issues: 1. It's harder to get – you have to calculate it 2....
Barbara Ballard
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Oct 24, 2008
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Hi Barbara, thank you for raising these points. I am aware of the problem. As early as 1999, built-in icons in the Phone.com browser had a similar issue:...
Luca Passani
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Oct 24, 2008
8:32 am

... I was hoping I was addressing those rules. ... I was thinking mm height and mm width, because pixels aren't always square. PPI (pixels per inch) would work...
Barbara Ballard
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Oct 24, 2008
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Barbara, if I understand correctly, you would be happy with two new capabilities: screen_physical_width and screen_physical_height with the...
Luca Passani
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Oct 24, 2008
11:12 pm

Luca, Screen width and height would be fabulous. We'd help with the data, at least sometimes. As for sensible defaults: it's less based on manufacturer, and...
Barbara Ballard
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Oct 30, 2008
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... Barbara, I am confused. Unless you really meant "dimension in millimeters" there.... Luca...
Luca Passani
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Oct 31, 2008
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... That was in response to your question about what should the fall-back values be. You suggested that each manufacturer might have standard sizes, but I'm...
Barbara Ballard
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OK, I thinkI get it now. So, I should introduce physical_screen:width and height and give it a value calculated on your "conversion matrix" in the previous...
Luca Passani
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Oct 31, 2008
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... Sounds right to me ... Barbara Ballard barbara@... Designing compelling, usable, and device-appropriate software and web sites for...
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