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Once Upon a Time....Mobile Ajax   Message List  
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People, I came across the term Mobile Ajax again today after many months
of distraction, and I have to say that, with the possible exception of
some iPhone apps, I am seeing very little mobile ajax being deployed in
production today. Am I mistaken? I think the term got its peak in 2007.

(it just dawned on me that I could use Google trends, and this sort of
confirmed my idea:

http://www.google.com/trends?q=mobile+ajax

Not may have been talking about Mobile Ajax after that, and even fewer
have done something in practice with it. Another victim of device
fragmentation? can anyone point to some cool uses of mobile ajax in
deployed applications? what about the iPhone? anyone who tried hard and
decided that the traditional way was still better? experiences to share
with us?

Luca




Sun Dec 7, 2008 3:41 pm

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People, I came across the term Mobile Ajax again today after many months of distraction, and I have to say that, with the possible exception of some iPhone...
Luca Passani
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Dec 7, 2008
3:41 pm

I'm not sure if it is cool but I'm using simple mobile ajax in my couple of projects. One of them is a mobile bookmark project. Here is a sample login for this...
mobivid
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Dec 7, 2008
4:10 pm

Hi, I did an Ajax webapp for iPhone and for me is the best "technology" for this platform. I don't know if it's good to do for other platform. ...
Idel Fuschini
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Dec 8, 2008
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I think the term peaked early as a result of a bunch of consultants/writers wanting to piggy back on the success of 'web 2.0' in the mobile world. At the time...
Jason Delport
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Dec 8, 2008
3:33 pm

I think the problem that of "mobile Ajax" is how many platform want to support it. Probably will be the standard because is the best technique to send and ...
Idel Fuschini
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Dec 8, 2008
3:59 pm

... absolutely yes. I think this is one of the things that the W3C CTG TF has been discussing for a long time, and I am not sure they have figured out how to...
Luca Passani
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Dec 8, 2008
4:34 pm

Is there a means of distinguishing mobile AJAX from regular AJAX (in fact is there such a thing which can be distinguished)? Are there any circumstances in...
Tom Hume
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Dec 9, 2008
12:25 am

... So, I create my mobile-ajax application, I place my whatever.js file on the server next to my xhtml which import it with the <script src="whatever.js">...
Luca Passani
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Dec 9, 2008
6:15 pm

Was I talking about downloading JavaScript? Nope. I'm asking (a) if there's such a thing as "mobile ajax" which can be distinguished from "normal ajax". (b) if...
Tom Hume
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Dec 9, 2008
6:29 pm

... Mobile Ajax is a subset of Ajax which uses exactly the same syntax as Ajax but is limited by what this or that device can effectively do with the Ajax code...
Luca Passani
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Dec 9, 2008
6:36 pm

... OK, so there's no identifiable difference between AJAX and mobile AJAX requests. Does anyone know of any good references on "mobile AJAX" as opposed to the...
Tom Hume
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Dec 9, 2008
10:19 pm

http://mobiforge.com/developing/story/getting-started-with-mobile-ajax And the famous... http://www.horizonchannel.com/archives/26 I second concerns not about...
James Pearce
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Dec 9, 2008
10:31 pm

Is it worth someone drafting a quick note to the authors of these libraries, pointing out the issues? They'll undoubtedly have more expertise with AJAX than...
Tom Hume
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Dec 9, 2008
10:50 pm

People, I read this thread last night before I went to sleep.I was sort of drunk and angry enough that I decided to wait before I answered. Now I have had time...
Luca Passani
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Dec 10, 2008
10:32 am

Luca In one way, the situation is worse than you're saying, in that it's not one purely affecting mobile services. Vodafone's use of the minify proxy on...
Tom Hume
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Dec 10, 2008
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The Manifesto explicitly states that transcoders must err on the side of not transcoding, and all of the rules are coherent with this. In case of Ajax, until...
Luca Passani
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Dec 10, 2008
7:31 pm

There is no way to tell AJAX and mobile-AJAX apart. The data that could be requested by, and returned to, an XHR client could be absolutely anything. It might...
James Pearce
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Dec 10, 2008
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... No. No, and again No. This position is fundamentally unacceptable. It was a mere coincidence that the cache-control:no-transform header was in HTTP and...
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Dec 11, 2008
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Luca What's "no-transform" for, if not to say "don't transform my content"? I think you are entirely right to complain when transcoders don't respect the...
Tom Hume
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Dec 11, 2008
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no-transform is a legacy HTTP features nobody used and which Novarra would like to see enforced because it serves their purposes. To which, my answer is "on my...
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Dec 11, 2008
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btw, can we go back to the nazi analogies now? The sexual ones are starting to weird me out ;) ... -- Future Platforms Ltd e: Tom.Hume@... t:...
Tom Hume
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Dec 11, 2008
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"No sex please. We are British" ? sorry, honey, I'm Italian :) Luca...
Luca Passani
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Dec 11, 2008
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@ Tom ...the British being weirded out by sexual references? Who is going to believe that one? I've watched British TV, lived in London for a year, and as such...
David Harper
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Dec 11, 2008
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When British reserve meets Italian passion, sparks are bound to fly ;) ... -- Future Platforms Ltd e: Tom.Hume@... t: +44 (0) 1273 819038 m:...
Tom Hume
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Dec 11, 2008
12:05 pm

... particularly if the dispute is over American "interventionism" :) Luca...
Luca Passani
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Dec 11, 2008
12:13 pm

This was my personal point of view, no tricks, no bullshit. I am thinking about it as a developer. If I am under a deadline to deliver a mobile AJAX project...
James Pearce
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Dec 11, 2008
8:42 am

... No, it is bullshit to the fullest extent of the word. And you are going out of your way to find new creative ways to peddle the bullshit. In fact, the more...
Luca Passani
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Dec 11, 2008
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Wow. My turn to become an object of hate. If anyone thinks I am merely playing lip service to developers, please come and visit http://mobiforge.com My team...
James Pearce
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Dec 11, 2008
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... I acknowledge this, James. I think .mobi has a great developer site. And this is why I had accrued a good dose of respect for .mobi that I could lose over...
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