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New WURFL Snapshot available, BUT WITH IMPORTANT CHANGE   Message List  
Reply Message #34311 of 34469 |

Hi everyone,

ScientiaMobile just published a new snapshot of the WURFL data. In order to
download it, you'll need to hit:

http://wurfl.sourceforge.net/

and follow the link to download. This will introduce an important extra step:
whoever downloads and plans to use the new wurfl.xml snapshot will need to
accept the new license with which the wurfl.xml file and the data in it are made
available. The license is of course also part of the header of the wurfl.xml
file itself, so obtaining the file some other way is not a way to avoid the
licensing terms.

For your convenience, I also report the text of the new license at the end of
this message.

Members of this mailing list probably sensed that this was coming once we
discovered that DeviceAtlas was reselling our data dearly to third-parties. To
be honest with you, those are not the only offenders. Without going into names,
other companies, large and small, have blithely confessed that they intend to
keep using WURFL commercially without open-sourcing their code nor paying a dime
for the value that WURFL delivers to them. At this point, we expect those
company to be coherent and either stop using WURFL or respect the licenses with
which WURFL is delivered.

Of course, the snapshot in July was released with the old (very liberal)
licensing, so there is no immediate requirement to upgrade the repository with
the newer wurfl.xml. Who does, though, should be warned that they are accepting
new terms for the usage of the WURFL repository.

Please observe that we also updated the web_browser_patch.xml (also coming with
the same new WURFL license). The new patch has the magical property of turning
all unrecognized UA strings into web browsers. In other words, if you only use
the wurfl.xml, undetected devices will be assumed to be mobile devices. If you
add the patch file, undetected UAs will be assumed to be web browsers. This
change was made to respond to a popular request.

If you have any technical issues with the new snapshot, please post here, on the
ScientiaMobile forum or directly to me.

And now, as promised, the wording of the new license.

Thank you


<![CDATA[
Copyright (C) 2011 ScientiaMobile, Inc., Herndon, VA, USA

Dear User,

The WURFL file contains information about the capabilities of mobile devices
and the browsers running on them. This information is collected to allow
developers to build mobile websites and mobile services that adapt
themselves
to the actual features of the device and browser.

This file is brought to you by ScientiaMobile, Inc.
(http://www.scientiamobile.com),
a US Company that offers commercial licensing, APIs, tools and support for
WURFL.

The WURFL file is the Copyright of ScientiaMobile.
Permission is granted to use one copy of the WURFL file only under the
circumstances and conditions specified here below. All rights are otherwise
reserved.

You are authorized to use the WURFL file AS IS, without modification and
solely in
connection with one of the standard WURFL APIs, starting from version 1.3,
released and supported by ScientiaMobile and available at
the official WURFL website at http://wurfl.sourceforge.net.

You are not authorized to create a derivative work of or otherwise modify
this WURFL file, and you are further not authorized to use, copy, display,
or distribute, in each case, any derivative work of this WURFL file,
whether created by you or someone else.

Organizations that intend to use this file or the data contained in it
commercially
or under different licensing terms should contact ScientiaMobile
(http://www.scientiamobile.com) to learn about licensing options for WURFL.

This file is distributed WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied
warranty of MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE or
NON-INFRINGEMENT.
Use of the WURFL file is permitted only under express acceptance of the
terms above. Therefore, by downloading, copying or otherwise making use of
the file you accept to be bound by said terms.

Please post any suggested modifications for future releases and/or comments
to the file on the WMLProgramming mailing list on Yahoo Groups:

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/wmlprogramming/

Alternatively, you can email your suggested modifications and comments
to the ScientiaMobile team at:

wurfldb@....

ScientiaMobile reserves the right to include third-party contributions with
or without modifications at its sole discretion.

Thank you

Luca Passani, CTO, ScientiaMobile, Inc.
]]></statement>




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Hi everyone, ScientiaMobile just published a new snapshot of the WURFL data. In order to download it, you'll need to hit: http://wurfl.sourceforge.net/ and...
Luca Passani
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Aug 30, 2011
8:26 am

Luca, I understand the reasons that led Scientia Mobile to deliver WURFL with a proper license -- and I have nothing against this step. I presume you had the...
casays Offline Send Email Aug 30, 2011
12:01 pm

On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Luca Passani <luca.passani@...> wrote: [ ... ] ... Does this mean that third-party APIs like pywurfl ...
Paul Clifford
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Aug 30, 2011
1:09 pm

... In short: Yes. The problem is, as you know, that several companies are using WURFL data to undermine our own WURFL offering, which is crazy. So we had to...
Luca Passani
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Aug 30, 2011
1:25 pm

Hi Luca, ... Just to clarify. I've built an application that uses the WURFL data to customise screen output depending on the handset capabilities. I've used my...
Simon Wilcox
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Aug 31, 2011
4:32 pm

... yes, unless you go for a commercial license. Luca...
Luca Passani
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Aug 31, 2011
4:45 pm

... Wow. That totally goes against the original spirit of what WURFL was about, a community built data file for the common good. I understand that you're upset...
Simon Wilcox
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Aug 31, 2011
4:56 pm

+1...
Juan Nin
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Aug 31, 2011
5:13 pm

... Simon, I think this is the point I want to address in your message. Unfortunately, what is sad is the way this world works. Or human nature, if you want. ...
Luca Passani
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Aug 31, 2011
5:18 pm

... Hi Luca, I'm not sure I understand alll of this very clearly, my "lawyer" hat is also a dunce cap, but it seems to me like you are effectively taking the...
Marc Guay
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Aug 31, 2011
5:39 pm

Well, as Luca stated, previous versions of wurfl.xml are not affected by this licence. So actually the contributions until today are still free in that aspect....
Juan Nin
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Aug 31, 2011
5:50 pm

Thank you for the support Juan. ... they use... Those who license WURFL commercially will also receive the wurfl.xml file under a less restrictive license. ...
Luca Passani
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Aug 31, 2011
6:01 pm

... no holes in the logic, Marc. All contributions by people who contributed under the assumption that the data would be open to everyone are available in the...
Luca Passani
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Aug 31, 2011
5:58 pm

... Does this mean that I could "branch" the July snapshot and create my own commercial business using it as a starting point?...
Marc Guay
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Aug 31, 2011
6:03 pm

... yes. Just make sure that we don't catch you red-handed importing our data Luca...
Luca Passani
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Aug 31, 2011
6:05 pm

... I suspect that nobody said anything at the time because nobody understood that the datafile was going to become non-free. I don't have a copy of the July...
Simon Wilcox
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Aug 31, 2011
6:09 pm

... No, as long as whoever manages that effort sails away from the ScientiaMobile's data and API. Luca...
Luca Passani
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Aug 31, 2011
6:15 pm

Just a few comments: ... What about the many contributors who have added to WURFL over the years. How are they to be paid for their work ? I fully understand...
Simon Wilcox
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Aug 31, 2011
6:03 pm

I think I have already addressed a lot of this in past emails. So I won't repeat myself. In the field of software there are two virtually separated worlds: -...
Luca Passani
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Aug 31, 2011
6:13 pm

One thing I see though, is that by becoming commercial you are now on the same side as DeviceAtlas and the rest. People used to choose WURFL because it was...
Juan Nin
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Aug 31, 2011
6:35 pm

... Honestly, I don't think this is accurate. DeviceAtlas took from WURFL, closed it, added some extra finishing and got a bunch of salesman to tell nice...
Luca Passani
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Aug 31, 2011
6:50 pm

Hi Luca, ... Fantastic, where is this licence ? The one linked here surely cannot be called open in the sense of FOSS. ...
Simon Wilcox
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Aug 31, 2011
7:33 pm

... http://www.gnu.org/licenses/agpl.html ... correct, but this file is not bundled with the API. You'll need to download it separately. And since producing...
Luca Passani
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Aug 31, 2011
7:47 pm

Hi this page is illegal ? http://wurfl.sourceforge.net/utilities/index.php Idel ===================== E-Mail: idel.fuschini@... Web Site:...
Idel Fuschini
idel.fuschini Offline Send Email
Aug 31, 2011
7:54 pm

Good point. I have just removed all the utilities until the day when we can align them to licenses and the rest of our offering. Luca...
Luca Passani
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Aug 31, 2011
7:57 pm

You must to delete also the google cache :-) ...
Idel Fuschini
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Aug 31, 2011
8:15 pm

We're not trying to hide what was available, we're just trying to make sure our current content is accurate. Steve...
Steve Kamerman
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Aug 31, 2011
8:20 pm

Prior to the formation of ScientiaMobile, we were getting a lot of incomplete or inconsistent contributions -- don't get me wrong, we still appreciated them...
Steve Kamerman
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Aug 31, 2011
7:36 pm

Again, don't get me wrong. I've been a WURFL contributor for years. Haven't contributed lately since I am not dedicating myself right now to this part, but...
Juan Nin
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Aug 31, 2011
9:03 pm
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