* Is this supported for the 1.1 Toolkit?
* If not, will it be available for the
next toolkit release?

* Will/does the 7110 support this?


Thanks
Michael McLaughlin
Media Foundry
www.media-foundry.com

I guess these variables are open to all programs, so if you have an
override,
the old value will be deleted. :/

j.


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From: chris.pedley@... [mailto:chris.pedley@...]
Sent: 14. september 1999 16:24
To: wmlprogramming@eGroups.com
Subject: [wmlprogramming] Session state


Is it safe to assume that variables can only be accessed from your
own WML.

So, if I have a variable called "name", then the user types in the URL
of a different WAP site which also has a variable called "name", then
the user returns to my WAP site via the back option - does my name
variable get corrupted?

Chris.



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Chirs,

The variable space in WML is completely shared and global. If you have set a
variable called "name", another application can not only over-write it, but
also access its value. You should re-initialize / un-initialize all
variables you wish to use upon entry/exit of your application.

Using newcontext="true" is a very brute force way of doing this since it
will clear out not only the variable stack, but the history stack as well.

I don't believe that this is implementation specific, but that it is part of
the WML specification from the WAP forum.

Ron Mandel
Phone.com Developer Support

> -----Original Message-----
> From: chris.pedley@... [mailto:chris.pedley@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 1999 7:24 AM
> To: wmlprogramming@egroups.com
> Subject: [wmlprogramming] Session state
>
>
> Is it safe to assume that variables can only be accessed from your
> own WML.
>
> So, if I have a variable called "name", then the user types in the URL
> of a different WAP site which also has a variable called "name", then
> the user returns to my WAP site via the back option - does my name
> variable get corrupted?
>
> Chris.
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I don't know if is helping you what I am writing.

1)
Look after the
newcontext="boolean"  Attribute.
If you are setting to "true", than the variables value is null.
So you will be sure about one thing, but it will gave you other
headache.

2)
Is the solution of the dynamic created pages, where you can init your
variable. Of course this is another kind of application.

If I wrong with something, please write me,
Daniel Stroe.

Luca Passani wrote:
>
> I don't know the answer to your question. I wouldn't be
> surprised if this was implementation dependent.
>  The existance of the 'onenterbackward' event, though,
> seems to suggest you should use it to re-initialize your WML
> application rather than trying to resuscitate it.
>
> Hope someone else can be more helpful
>
> Luca
>
> chris.pedley@... wrote:
> >
> > Is it safe to assume that variables can only be accessed from your
> > own WML.
> >
> > So, if I have a variable called "name", then the user types in the URL
> > of a different WAP site which also has a variable called "name", then
> > the user returns to my WAP site via the back option - does my name
> > variable get corrupted?
> >
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I don't know the answer to your question. I wouldn't be
surprised if this was implementation dependent.
  The existance of the 'onenterbackward' event, though,
seems to suggest you should use it to re-initialize your WML
application rather than trying to resuscitate it.

Hope someone else can be more helpful

Luca

chris.pedley@... wrote:
>
> Is it safe to assume that variables can only be accessed from your
> own WML.
>
> So, if I have a variable called "name", then the user types in the URL
> of a different WAP site which also has a variable called "name", then
> the user returns to my WAP site via the back option - does my name
> variable get corrupted?
>

Is it safe to assume that variables can only be accessed from your
own WML.

So, if I have a variable called "name", then the user types in the URL
of a different WAP site which also has a variable called "name", then
the user returns to my WAP site via the back option - does my name
variable get corrupted?

Chris.

Bjorn Hijmans wrote:
>
> Luca Passani wrote:
>
> > Hallo, is there anyone who can tell me how a real wap
> > telephone is supposed to behave when a dec is bigger than 1.4 Kb?
>
> My testphone just reports 'connection failed' :(

what do you mean by testphone?

a real telephone or some emulator?

thank you

Luca

Luca Passani wrote:

> Hallo, is there anyone who can tell me how a real wap
> telephone is supposed to behave when a dec is bigger than 1.4 Kb?

My testphone just reports 'connection failed' :(

--
Groeten/Regards,
Bjorn Hijmans

Hallo, is there anyone who can tell me how a real wap
telephone is supposed to behave when a dec is bigger than 1.4 Kb?

Luca

to whom it may concern...

Luca

Mr. Passani,

We learned that you maybe familiar with Up.browser.  I am the owner of a
website on PC platform.  We are thinking of creating a version of our website
on microbrowser of cell phone.   We are looking for a part-time consultant
who can help us in this effort.  No need for relocation.  In fact,
telecommuting is encouraged.

If you are capable and interested, please let us know ASAP.  If not, maybe
you could be kind enough to recommend some other expert to us?

Regards,

  Jason

Hallo, Are telephones supporting pictures?
  I have got an emulator that just shows the ALT attribute, even
though it has a real WBMP pictures to show.

Luca

http://kurius.hypermart.net/wml11/faq.wml

probably not very useful

Luca

See:
http://www.teraflops.com/wbmp/

http://www.teraflops.com/wbmp/

Luca

As far as I could see, GIFs are good enough on a few emulators at least.
The picture I attach, for example, is used on a real WAP service.

Luca

michael@... wrote:
>
> Can anyone give me some tips on creating/editing WBMPs?
>
> I can't seem to load them into Adobe Photoshop, which supports all of
> the most popular formats.

Hi,
I am a new in thisw list.

I have a wonder. I am working with Nokia toolkit 1.1. And I had play
with the WmlScripts function to see the results.

I have write in my WmlScript file:
    var b=Dialogs.confirm("Choose", "Wml Adr", "Wmls Adr");

    Problem:
    It is not displayed "Choose",
    only "Wml Adr" and "Wmls Adr".

    What could be the problem? The toolkit, or I have done a mistake?

    Thanks in advance,
    Daniel.

Telephones do not seem to complain though.

luca

Joseph A. Latone wrote:
>
> Yes, I believe it is a requirement.
>
> To wit:
>
> WBXML requires a public Document Type Definition (DTD), even for merely well
> formed XML, which doesn't require a DTD. It's encoded in the first payload
> byte, locking them into a WINA-controlled 255-slot registry for Formal
> Public Identifiers, instead of, for example, using a hash function. It also
> appears to foreclose other XML schema proposals from W3C that are expected
> to replace DTDs. The general concept is that there are 255-slot code pages
> for the tag, attribute name, attribute value, and other XML string tokens.
> They encode the content model (e.g., whether an element can enclose child
> elements) and presence of attributes into the two high-order bits of a tag,
> limiting it to 31 tags per code page.
>

Yes, I believe it is a requirement.

To wit:

WBXML requires a public Document Type Definition (DTD), even for merely well
formed XML, which doesn't require a DTD. It's encoded in the first payload
byte, locking them into a WINA-controlled 255-slot registry for Formal
Public Identifiers, instead of, for example, using a hash function. It also
appears to foreclose other XML schema proposals from W3C that are expected
to replace DTDs. The general concept is that there are 255-slot code pages
for the tag, attribute name, attribute value, and other XML string tokens.
They encode the content model (e.g., whether an element can enclose child
elements) and presence of attributes into the two high-order bits of a tag,
limiting it to 31 tags per code page.

Joe

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Luca Passani [mailto:passani@...]
> Sent: Friday, August 27, 1999 3:47 AM
> To: wmlprogramming@egroups.com
> Subject: [wmlprogramming] DOCTYPE declaration
>
>
> Hallo, can anyone tell me if the DOCTYPE declaration that
> imports the DTD is a requirement of WML or not?
>  I am working with XML and XSL transformation and issuing the
> DOCTYPE dedclaration from XSL seems to be a pain in the butt.
>
> Luca
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Just to get the ball rolling here is the first question.

I am going to learn WML. I have experience with HTML. By looking
at Nokia documentation I get the impression that WML is very similar
in concept to HTML. Yet I had problem mapping single WML
elements to corresponding HTML elements.
  I will try to write down a list of correspondences.
Please contribute to correct and add to it.


WML             HTML
===             ====

Deck         =  HTML page

Card         =  section in HTML page
                 qualified by the <A NAME> TAG

<go>         =  <form>
<refresh>    =  javascript:history.go(0)

<p></p>      = <p></p>

<do>         =  ?

$var         = Are they like Javascript variables?
                I understand that sometimes they seem to behave
                like ASP (server-side) variables. Ideas?

<a href>     = <a href>

<postfield>  = <input type=hidden> ?

onenterforward = onload

<option>     = <option>

<input type=text>  = <input type=text>

<optgroup>  = ???


Luca

Hallo, thank you all for joining the list.

A few days ago I was involved in a project for the Norwegian
Telecom. Among other things, the project required the production of
a small WAP service. All the documentation I got was
Nokia's manuals.
  While those manuals are probably complete from a technical
viewpoint, they fall short of being a good introduction
for a beginner: many repetions, examples that are hard
to understand, lack of a sensible path through the different
WML features.
  I decided to hit the net and look for WML forums and FAQs.
  To my big surprise I didn't find much. Wapforum seems to be
more or less monopolizing the whole WAP scene.
  Unfortunately, the 7500 $ membership fee is out of the scope of the
project I am on now, so to speak.
  Since I've always believed in the idea that you can find on the net
no more than what has been put in it, I decided to start this list.
  If the list succeeds, I can take care of building an HTML page
with FAQs and tutorials about WML. The list will be automatically
archived by the egroups service.

Ideas and opinions are welcome.

Have a nice day.

Luca Passani

Can anyone give me some tips on creating/editing WBMPs?

I can't seem to load them into Adobe Photoshop, which supports all of
the most popular formats.

Thanks
Michael

Does anybody of you know where to get version 2.1.x (like 2.1.5) of the Nokia
WAP Toolkit?

Knut

Thanks,

Its all pretty confusing -- why couldn't they just use B/W GIFs?
Any idea when the next Nokia Toolkit beta will be out?

Michael

I asked the very same question to james @ Waptastic. This was his reply...

"Tricky one this...

The specs now say 1-bit BMP (called WBMP); see the end of

http://www1.wapforum.org/tech/terms.asp?doc=SPEC-WAESpec-19990524.pdf

Although no-one seems fully clear how you go about creating them without
having to manipulate bits and bytes.

All I can say is that Nokia are
promising a BMP -> WBMP converter - see:
http://dev.forum.nokia.com/wapboard/messages/1355.html
The Nokia SDK handles GIF, which is a bit confusing...

Best regards,

James"


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Hallo, can anyone tell me if the DOCTYPE declaration that
imports the DTD is a requirement of WML or not?
  I am working with XML and XSL transformation and issuing the
DOCTYPE dedclaration from XSL seems to be a pain in the butt.

Luca

I got it under strict NDA, but don't worry. It's a shitty beta
that will just cause you much frustration and nothing else.

Any specific reason why you need it?

BTW can we attempt to make a list of available emulators?

luca

knut.wannheden@... wrote:
>
> Does anybody of you know where to get version 2.1.x (like 2.1.5) of the Nokia
WAP Toolkit?
>
> Knut

wap.allt.com

Point your WAP telephones (or your emulators) there

Luca

The WAPtastic site has a really good FAQ, ideal for beginners to WAP.

Michael McLaughlin

http://www.waptastic.com/

Luca

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