... it takes this stance necause Novarra prefers to do UA spoofing: 1) it's closer to how their product works 2) it makes them more money (fewer web sites...
... Tom, you keep playing dumb on everything that has been said. If we lived in an ideal world, then LINK would be a powerful tool for developers. But this is...
... why the fuck do content developers need to change the way they do things, just because a stupid fucked-up company like novarra has decided from one day to...
... [blah blah] OK, so ua-spoofing is evil and no-one should do it - except in the instance when Luca says it's OK: for content tasting, something the CTG is...
... You think so? I think I'm pointing out that there are already ways of doing some of this stuff, that have been around for years. ... Unfortunately...
... It's simple: I want my sites, and those of my customers, to work. And I want to avoid the sort of problems that got us to this situation in future. .mobi...
Leaving aside how one would go about "stealing" HTTP headers... CTG: don't change the user-agent unless the user asks you to. Even if they ask you to, if...
Julio ... I'm not sure what autoconsistent means, but the CTG only allows user- agent spoofing when the user has asked for a transcoded desktop experience. ......
... As I read it, that'd mean having the string"http://www.w3.org/ns/ct" in the URI header. How would this help identify the proxy? I can see how having some...
... string. 4.1.4.4 "[if] the User-Agent header has been altered, an X-Device-User-Agent header must be added with the value of the received User-Agent...
... Is my english so bad that you cannot understand what I wrote or are you trying to irritate me by playing dumb again? UA spoofing is NOT OK, not even for...
... so, why did the problem start in the first place. The problem started (surprise, surprise) when vodafone places a transcoder that steals the UA string in...
... I'm not playing dumb, Luca. I'm afraid I must *really* be this stupid :) ... Then I must have misunderstood you when you said "If you realise the response...
... Of course - I think we all remember that. And the Manifesto and CTG are both mechanisms to prevent this happening in future. ... I've seen no interview,...
... one on earth should one be forced to use a *.mobi or m.* domain to be shielded from transcoding? Hold on a sec, are you on the .mobi payroll to support...
just two comments and I'll go dedicate the rest of my time to my family. ... that's after you have left the mobile domain. Not while the transcoder is there...
... Stolen. I stand my case. Stolen. If you move it, many many mobile sites won't see it, and they will be fooled into serving the web site. Not to mention the...
... Well, since you ask a direct question - yes, I think you're being paranoid. The world is not a perfect place and is full of compromises. What I have seen...
... Luca - anyone building mobile sites that is NOT aware of this community, the relevant working groups and therefore the move of the header & actions of the...
... You're saying it's OK for the transcoder to change the UA in certain situations. I don't disagree, or think this is a bad thing. I do agree with you that...
Time out guys. Everyone on this list is aware Luca of your position and Tom of your position. Because you are both coming from polar opposites there never will...
Consistent means, in theories and logic, that all the terms of a complex rule (a group of rules) do not enter in conflict with any of other terms of the same...
... Great stuff! Now if we can merge some of this data with the frequently-used data coming from AdMob, M:Metrics, Opera, and so forth, we can get an idea of...
... I wish! You can be sure we would have made a big announcement if we'd been priviledged enough to hire Tom. :-) ... Well I own one. But they're extremely...
LINK tag will not work for mobile web applications (Content selling, ajax, etc, etc.) because you need the first response to be a mobile one. It is not a...
... paranoid. Fair enough. I see a lot of numbered dots, and when I join them, the picture is clear. If you, and others, don't see the threat coming to us from...
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