By David Pogue / New York Times


At the risk of enraging the Apple bashers, I can't keep my mouth
shut any longer: Something is going on with the Macintosh.

At this week's Macworld Expo, there were 475 exhibitors. That's
100 more booths than last year.

There were 50,000 attendees. That's 10,000 more people than
last year.

A book publisher told me that 2007 Macintosh book sales were
up by double-digit leaps over the previous year.

Gartner's fourth-quarter 2007 research shows that Mac shipments
grew 28 percent over the year before, giving it an 6.1 percent
market share. (It was 3-point-something only a couple of years ago.)

According to Net Applications, use of the Mac's Web browser,
Safari, climbed 32 percent in 2007.

Apple sold 2.16 million Macs in the last quarter紡 new company
record.

And anecdotally謡ell, you probably know somebody who's
switched to the Mac recently.

What is going on?

An iPod "halo effect?" I doubt it. The iPod's been around since
2001, and you didn't see this massive Macintosh surge until
recently.

People switching because they're fed up with viruses and
spyware on Windows? Equally unlikely. That effect, too, would
have been visible years ago.

The best theory I've heard is: "Windows Vista." When people
found out they'd have to buy a new computer and learn a new
interface, a certain slice of them just said, "Well, if I have to buy
a new machine and learn a new interface, I may as well get the
cool-looking, virus-free one."

But could that effect explain this gigantic 35 percent leap in just
12 months? It's still an expensive proposition to switch platforms
once you've got an investment in software and peripherals.

Anyone else got a better theory? (No religious flaming, please.
Let's keep the discussion on an intellectual plane.)

On 11/03/2009, at 11:48 AM, John Rethorst wrote:

> The best theory I've heard is: "Windows Vista." When people
> found out they'd have to buy a new computer and learn a new
> interface, a certain slice of them just said, "Well, if I have to buy
> a new machine and learn a new interface, I may as well get the
> cool-looking, virus-free one."

Of the three people I know who have recently purchased Macs rather
than a Windows machine. It is actually a process of cumulative
exhaustion. They are so sick and tired of having to be computer
experts just to keep their machines running. The Mac offers them
opportunity to simply fire up the computer and get on with the job.

malcolm

I'm convinced that Vista is a large part of the answer. I have to use it for
work and it's such a huge step back (I also use the Mac and Linux). My niece was
one of those who got stuck with one of the under-powered computers with Vista
pre-installed. After suffering with it for over a year, she brought her computer
to me this weekend and begged me to install Linux on it.

Now, she can do it. She has very few proprietary applications. I think that the
others would have more of an investment. However, a lot of Windows applications
(and I own a few) no longer work on Vista anyway, requiring an additional cash
outlay anyway. So, even those people are going to have to purchase a few new
applications. Some of those are going to choose to just step off the
merry-go-round and switch platforms.

Mark




________________________________
From: John Rethorst <jrethorst@...>
To: wordperfectmac@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 6:48:30 PM
Subject: [wpmac] Explaining the Macintosh surge?


By David Pogue / New York Times

At the risk of enraging the Apple bashers, I can't keep my mouth
shut any longer: Something is going on with the Macintosh.

At this week's Macworld Expo, there were 475 exhibitors. That's
100 more booths than last year.

There were 50,000 attendees. That's 10,000 more people than
last year.

A book publisher told me that 2007 Macintosh book sales were
up by double-digit leaps over the previous year.

Gartner's fourth-quarter 2007 research shows that Mac shipments
grew 28 percent over the year before, giving it an 6.1 percent
market share. (It was 3-point-something only a couple of years ago.)

According to Net Applications, use of the Mac's Web browser,
Safari, climbed 32 percent in 2007.

Apple sold 2.16 million Macs in the last quarter窶殿 new company
record.

And anecdotally窶背ell, you probably know somebody who's
switched to the Mac recently.

What is going on?

An iPod "halo effect?" I doubt it. The iPod's been around since
2001, and you didn't see this massive Macintosh surge until
recently.

People switching because they're fed up with viruses and
spyware on Windows? Equally unlikely. That effect, too, would
have been visible years ago.

The best theory I've heard is: "Windows Vista." When people
found out they'd have to buy a new computer and learn a new
interface, a certain slice of them just said, "Well, if I have to buy
a new machine and learn a new interface, I may as well get the
cool-looking, virus-free one."

But could that effect explain this gigantic 35 percent leap in just
12 months? It's still an expensive proposition to switch platforms
once you've got an investment in software and peripherals.

Anyone else got a better theory? (No religious flaming, please.
Let's keep the discussion on an intellectual plane.)





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The Mac also does windows
easier than ever with several options to run other operating systems
The Mac is now the only mainstream cross-platform box out...

Folks can load windoze and run almost any OEM software needed for work and still
get the reliability of a Mac.

With Time Machine; even Windoze is Re~bootable and Crash protected with only
recently broken windoze files lost in the bargain...

We certainly can't attribute the recent Mac Surge to marketing, the new
commercials are weak.

The new AirBook lacks a drive bay, MacBooks lack a firewire port so the Macs are
giving up compelling features while maintaining a price premium.

Good things are never cheap and Win~Crash machines are never good :)



--- In wordperfectmac@yahoogroups.com, Malcolm Fitzgerald <scrpt@...> wrote:
>
>
> On 11/03/2009, at 11:48 AM, John Rethorst wrote:
>
> > The best theory I've heard is: "Windows Vista." When people
> > found out they'd have to buy a new computer and learn a new
> > interface, a certain slice of them just said, "Well, if I have to buy
> > a new machine and learn a new interface, I may as well get the
> > cool-looking, virus-free one."
>
> Of the three people I know who have recently purchased Macs rather
> than a Windows machine. It is actually a process of cumulative
> exhaustion. They are so sick and tired of having to be computer
> experts just to keep their machines running. The Mac offers them
> opportunity to simply fire up the computer and get on with the job.
>
> malcolm
>

My theory? The Apple retail stores. They offer folks like this guy
(below) a chance to feel comfortable (and excited even!) about making
the switch. They feel like there's support out there for them.

I got this in an email today from one of our older members (I work for a
country club). He's in his late 70s and had told me that he was
considering a Mac because once he added all the features to the HP he
was looking at, the cost difference favored the Mac. I suggested he go
to the Apple store to find out more...
I followed your lead and bought a new Apple Computer. I am a happy
camper--I spent over an hour at the store with one of the sales reps so
now I am somewhat familiar but have lots to learn --which I like.
Who gets that kind of help and support at Best Buy when they look at
Windows computers?

Tina Gibson
Fairfax, Va.





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Macs are the perfect machine - since the switch to Intel.  They are the only
machines (if you follow the EULA) that can run any / all the major end user
operating systems.  Mac OS X is the best operating system ever offered to
the public.  Windows has tons of software that no other OS can run, and the
familiarity and nearly universally available tech support that people are
used to.  And slap any flavor of desktop Linux on there you want.

Thanks to Bootcamp, Parallels Desktop, and VMWare Fusion, (and SheepShaver,
of course!) - an Intel Mac is like having 3 computers in one, (if not more).

Not only that - (what I call the "Best of all possible worlds" approach) -
but they are beautiful machines.  There design is unmatched.  They have
everything you need as soon as you open the box, built-in WiFi, BlueTooth,
WebCam, IR, FireWire....  Plus iWork and iLife are not available anywhere
else, and - as a designer - I can tell you they are much more enjoyable to
use than anything on the market today - and I have the uber-expensive Adobe
Creative Suite Design Premium and Microsoft Office 2008 - and I end up using
Pages far more than InDesign or Word, and Keynote far more than PowerPoint.
Adobe Software seems (and that, I admit, is a subjective statement) to work
better on a Mac.  And even MS Office 2008 (for Mac) is better than MS Office
2007 (for Windows) IMHO.

Add to that the "Halo Effect" from iPods and the iPhone - the expert
marketing campaigns - high schoolers who grew up with iPods now entering
college and needing laptops - the Apple Store - the top notch AppleCare
service and support - being seen everywhere on TV, Movies, and even
commericals for Windows software (FinallyFast.com has a horrribly faked
commerical where they paste images of a low-res screenshot of what I'm
guessing in Windows XP onto older iMacs and even an iBook (which can't run
Windows - without VirtualPC) and I'm sure it's not the only one)....  All of
it on top of the Vista disaster...  I'm surprised Mac's aren't selling
better than they are, and once the global economy turns around, I'm sure
they will be.  That, and/or when Apple comes out with a computer than costs
less than $400 - maybe a MacBook Nano (netbook)?

Hey, a guy can dream, can't he?

-Chad Smith
http://www.chadwsmith.com/


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I've got WP working with Sheepshaver, but I can't find a way
to transfer old WP files, or your templates, to the Sheepshaver disk.
There was no Transfer file or Shared folder installed by Sheepshaver.
Am I missing something?

	 Thanks, Ralph Martin

--- In wordperfectmac@yahoogroups.com, Ralph Martin <khaki@...> wrote:
>
>  I've got WP working with Sheepshaver, but I can't find a way
> to transfer old WP files, or your templates, to the Sheepshaver disk.
> There was no Transfer file or Shared folder installed by Sheepshaver.

Quit SheepShaver and open its disk in OSX. Drag whatever you want
onto that disk. Unmount it before starting SheepShaver again.

Use SheepShaver Prefs to set a shared folder. This is explained in
the Readme file with the distribution.

John R.

Thanks.  Will try.  Best, RDM

>--- In
><mailto:wordperfectmac%40yahoogroups.com>wordperfectmac@yahoogroups.com,
>Ralph Martin <khaki@...> wrote:
>>
>> I've got WP working with Sheepshaver, but I can't find a way
>>  to transfer old WP files, or your templates, to the Sheepshaver disk.
>>  There was no Transfer file or Shared folder installed by Sheepshaver.
>
>Quit SheepShaver and open its disk in OSX. Drag whatever you want
>onto that disk. Unmount it before starting SheepShaver again.
>
>Use SheepShaver Prefs to set a shared folder. This is explained in
>the Readme file with the distribution.
>
>John R.
>
>
>


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Hi everybody,

I was reading a post today and decided to ask...

How can I mount the disk in OSX? the etension .dsk doesn't mount here...

And, second: is Networking functional in Sheepshaver? I can't use Ethernet
here...

thanks
Djan Marsiglia

--- In wordperfectmac@yahoogroups.com, djanmarsiglia <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> Hi everybody,
>
> I was reading a post today and decided to ask...
>
> How can I mount the disk in OSX? the etension .dsk doesn't mount here...

It should have the extension .dmg, and will mount by double-clicking
(after quitting SheepShaver, since one volume should not be mounted in
two OS's at the same time).

> And, second: is Networking functional in Sheepshaver? I can't use
> Ethernet here...

Others know more than I do, and a search here might help, but I think
that networking works but not well.

John R.

--- In wordperfectmac@yahoogroups.com, djanmarsiglia <no_reply@...> wrote:

>
> How can I mount the disk in OSX? the etension .dsk doesn't mount here...
>
> And, second: is Networking functional in Sheepshaver? I can't use Ethernet
here...

If you have a disk image file with a .dsk extension, use one of many free
disk-mounting programs, such as Mounty or Mount Me! You can find them easily as
MacUpdate.com or VersionTracker.com.

Networking may or may not work in Sheepshaver, but will only if you install the
networking components, or if you simply install OS 9.04 or some other version
instead of the version installed on John's system.

Questions about networking in Sheepshaver are more likely to be answered in the
forum at emaculation.com. There are plenty of threads about it there. You really
are MUCH more likely to get useful answers there rather than here.

Is there any advantage to grabbing the Mac OS Rom from my Beige G3 instead of
using the one that came in your install file which is " MacOS ROM 1.6 from
窶廴acOS ROM Update 1.0""?

For kicks, I used Rom Grabber to grab the rom file from the G3, and named it Mac
OS Rom, but SheepShaver does not recognize it, and the icon looks different from
the one John Rethorst supplied.

The reason I ask, is that the Power PC version of Microsoft Works 4.0c (yes, I
know this is a Word Perfect forum....sorry) used to work, but now it is crashing
SheepShaver.  But the non PowerPC version 4.0b works just fine.

Thanks.

I read often, but rarely feel the need to post.

My aging Father in law likes the speed and big screen of his new iMac, but is
having difficulty adapting to the different user experience of Pages and
Numbers.  He wants the benefits of the new Mac, without having to learn
everything all over again.





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For expert advice on running Sheepshaver, try this forum:

http://www.emaculation.com/forum/

They know all about various ROMs and other options there.

--- In wordperfectmac@yahoogroups.com, jpwav716 <jpwav716@...> wrote:
>
> Is there any advantage to grabbing the Mac OS Rom from my Beige G3 instead of
using the one that came in your install file which is " MacOS ROM 1.6 from
窶廴acOS ROM Update 1.0""?
>

Hi,

First time visitor/poster to this forum and you are talking about me when you
ask about the Macintosh surge.

I have to buy a new laptop and I don't want Vista.  I'm so impressed with my
other Apple products that I want to buy a Mac.  That said, I cannot lose my
Wordperfect.  I'm a writer by profession and I'd rather eat worms than switch to
Word.

I came to this forum looking for a way to solve my problem.  Do you guy's have a
FAQ you can point me to?

TIA,

Geralyn

--- In wordperfectmac@yahoogroups.com, geralyn_dawson <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> First time visitor/poster to this forum and you are talking about me
> when you ask about the Macintosh surge.
>
> I have to buy a new laptop and I don't want Vista.  I'm so impressed
> with my other Apple products that I want to buy a Mac.  That said, I
> cannot lose my Wordperfect.  I'm a writer by profession and I'd rather
> eat worms than switch to Word.
>
> I came to this forum looking for a way to solve my problem.  Do you
> guy's have a FAQ you can point me to?

Go to the list at the left of this page, to Links > SheepShaver and Basilisk.
The third to last link has a SheepShaver install; the second to last link has
a Basilisk install, and the last link has extensive discussion about these. A
search of this group's archives would also help.

John R.

--- In wordperfectmac@yahoogroups.com, geralyn_dawson <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> I have to buy a new laptop and I don't want Vista.  I'm so impressed with my
other Apple products that I want to buy a Mac.  That said, I cannot lose my
Wordperfect.  I'm a writer by profession and I'd rather eat worms than switch to
Word.
>

Are you now using WordPerfect for DOS or WordPerfect for Windows? If you are
using WordPerfect for DOS, it's possible to run it on a Mac, but only if you
install Windows on your Mac, and run WordPerfect inside Windows, as described
here:

http://www.columbia.edu/~em36/wpdos/mac-intel.html

I don't really recommend it for anyone who uses WordPerfect for DOS extensively.

You can still buy a notebook that runs Windows XP from the link below (among
other places) and continue to run WordPerfect for DOS very easily:

http://www.jncs.com/php/sys_by_type.php?catid=5&typeid=sys

I very much doubt that you will ever be satisfied with the very different
version of WordPerfect that was written for the Macintosh - it's an excellent
program, but I don't know of anyone who switched to it after years of working
with WordPerfect for DOS. If you absolutely insist on trying it, you can find
information about it here:

http://www.columbia.edu/~em36/wpdos/mac-intel.html

--- In wordperfectmac@yahoogroups.com, "Edward Mendelson" <em315@...> wrote:
>
> --- In wordperfectmac@yahoogroups.com, geralyn_dawson <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > I have to buy a new laptop and I don't want Vista.  I'm so impressed with my
other Apple products that I want to buy a Mac.  That said, I cannot lose my
Wordperfect.  I'm a writer by profession and I'd rather eat worms than switch to
Word.

Sorry - wrong first link the previous message. Information on running WP for DOS
on a Mac is here:

http://www.columbia.edu/~em36/wpdos/wpdosmac.html

Apologies for any confusion.

Understandably, you want to avoid Word. This may
be sacrilege on this list, but you may want to
take a look at the open source application called
NeoOffice. It is rich with features and can read
WP files. <http://www.neooffice.org>

George Richardson


At 11:31 PM +0000 3/20/09, geralyn_dawson wrote:
>Hi,
>
>First time visitor/poster to this forum and you
>are talking about me when you ask about the
>Macintosh surge.
>
>I have to buy a new laptop and I don't want
>Vista. I'm so impressed with my other Apple
>products that I want to buy a Mac. That said, I
>cannot lose my Wordperfect. I'm a writer by
>profession and I'd rather eat worms than switch
>to Word.
>
>I came to this forum looking for a way to solve
>my problem. Do you guy's have a FAQ you can
>point me to?
>
>TIA,
>Geralyn

--
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George B. Richardson
Collaborative and Mediation Professional
650.324.4801

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Apparently, VMware Fusion allows you to install DOS on an Intel Mac,
in which case it must be possible to install WordPerfect DOS:
http://communities.vmware.com/message/977179
--

Bob Stern

Well, yes. But since you can't possibly print from DOS on an Intel Mac, and
because you have to be a unix guru to be able to get a file into or out of the
DOS disk image, perhaps this isn't really practical?

--- In wordperfectmac@yahoogroups.com, Bob Stern <bob_stern@...> wrote:
>
> Apparently, VMware Fusion allows you to install DOS on an Intel Mac,
> in which case it must be possible to install WordPerfect DOS:
> http://communities.vmware.com/message/977179
> --
>
> Bob Stern
>

You have to be a Unix guru to drag and drop a file from the disk image?

- Chad Smith
http://www.chadwsmith.com/


On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 6:32 AM, Edward Mendelson <em315@...> wrote:

>   Well, yes. But since you can't possibly print from DOS on an Intel Mac,
> and because you have to be a unix guru to be able to get a file into or out
> of the DOS disk image, perhaps this isn't really practical?
>
>
> --- In wordperfectmac@yahoogroups.com <wordperfectmac%40yahoogroups.com>,
> Bob Stern <bob_stern@...> wrote:
> >
> > Apparently, VMware Fusion allows you to install DOS on an Intel Mac,
> > in which case it must be possible to install WordPerfect DOS:
> > http://communities.vmware.com/message/977179
> > --
> >
> > Bob Stern
> >
>
>
>


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OK, not really, but you're going to have to create a disk image that can be
accessed as a virtual floppy in Vmware fusion, and then drag files in and out of
it, remembering that you can damage the image by accessing it simultaneously
from Fusion and OS X, and the rest. Certainly this would cause no problem for an
expert user who likes to experiment, but it's not really a practical possibility
for a non-expert user who just wants to run WordPerfect in order to create,
print, and edit files...

--- In wordperfectmac@yahoogroups.com, Chad Smith <chad78@...> wrote:
>
> You have to be a Unix guru to drag and drop a file from the disk image?
>

>Edward Mendelson wrote:
>
>remembering that you can damage the image by accessing it
>simultaneously from Fusion and OS X


That's true in SheepShaver, but I do NOT believe it is true in VMware Fusion.
--

Bob Stern

OK, let's start over, and this time I'll try to get it right.

First, I've actually used an MS-DOS virtual machine in Vmware. Here's a screen
shot:

http://www.columbia.edu/~em36/DOS-VM.jpg

While it's a moderately interesting experiment, you can't actually do anything
with it, at least not easily.

You could perhaps copy files to and from the DOS system by creating a virtual
floppy image, and using that as your data disk in the DOS system. I haven't
tried this, but it should at least be possible. Whether or not it's actually
SAFE to access the image from both DOS and OS X, I simply don't know. But I
certainly wouldn't trust it to be safe without a lot of testing. DOS is not
exactly the most advanced operating system out there, and was never intended to
share disks with other operating systems at the same time.

As a way of running a DOS application, this has other real limits. For example,
the VMware Additions don't work under DOS, so you have no practical way to
print. Yes, I really do know that someone could print to a PostScript file on
the virtual floppy, and then transfer that file from the virtual floppy to OS X,
and open it in in Preview and then print it - but do you seriously think this is
practical for everyday use?

If we're talking about real-world solutions, this isn't one.


--- In wordperfectmac@yahoogroups.com, Bob Stern <bob_stern@...> wrote:
>
> >Edward Mendelson wrote:
> >
> >remembering that you can damage the image by accessing it
> >simultaneously from Fusion and OS X
>
>
> That's true in SheepShaver, but I do NOT believe it is true in VMware Fusion.
> --
>
> Bob Stern
>

On Mar 20, 2009, at 7:31 PM, geralyn_dawson wrote:

> Hi,
>
> First time visitor/poster to this forum and you are talking about
> me when you ask about the Macintosh surge.
>
> I have to buy a new laptop and I don't want Vista.  I'm so
> impressed with my other Apple products that I want to buy a Mac.
> That said, I cannot lose my Wordperfect.  I'm a writer by
> profession and I'd rather eat worms than switch to Word.
>
> I came to this forum looking for a way to solve my problem.  Do you
> guy's have a FAQ you can point me to?
>
> TIA,
>
> Geralyn

Geralyn,
I understand being ready to eat worms under the direst conditions.  I
only use Macs and writing is my profession, too. However, I'm on this
list quite by accident. It became evident one time when I asked a
question! John pointed out the forum I could visit to get the answer.
But I've stayed on, somewhat learning more
My word processor is Appleworks although I used to adore Microsoft
word 5.1, or, whatever is Classic's prize version, but I assume I
need to use other than Appleworks if I expect people to read my ebooks.

John, I have OS 10.4.11. Haven't a clue, obviously, about Sheepsaver
or, anything else, but, for pure writing - no graphics, etc, - could
I jump (ha!)  into Wordperfect without too much idiocy on my part?
Will I grow to love it as much as Classic, which I still have but
rarely use.

Nancy

--- In wordperfectmac@yahoogroups.com, villars@... wrote:

> My word processor is Appleworks although I used to adore Microsoft
> word 5.1, or, whatever is Classic's prize version, but I assume I
> need to use other than Appleworks if I expect people to read my ebooks.
>
> John, I have OS 10.4.11. Haven't a clue, obviously, about Sheepsaver
> or, anything else, but, for pure writing - no graphics, etc, - could
> I jump (ha!)  into Wordperfect without too much idiocy on my part?
> Will I grow to love it as much as Classic, which I still have but
> rarely use.

WordPerfect and Word 5.1 were the two best-regarded legacy Mac
word processors. I much prefer WP; YMMV.

John R.

He's entitled to his opinion, however disinterested he claims it to be,
but the author has a better point about longevity of a Mac's
usefulness. The state of the economy is less a consideration for a
once-every-few-years purchase.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/161700/ballmer_is_right_mac_users_do_pay_dearly_f\
or_apple_logo.html

(Link may need to be copied and pasted.)

John R.

Oh, it's classic Microsoft FUD. Notice he posits that price for the
hardware. He's careful to say nothing about the software, which is
peerless.

JS


On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 4:31 PM, John Rethorst <jrethorst@...> wrote:
> He's entitled to his opinion, however disinterested he claims it to be,
> but the author has a better point about longevity of a Mac's
> usefulness. The state of the economy is less a consideration for a
> once-every-few-years purchase.
>
>
http://www.pcworld.com/article/161700/ballmer_is_right_mac_users_do_pay_dearly_f\
or_apple_logo.html
>
> (Link may need to be copied and pasted.)
>
> John R.
>
>

What must be really galling to Ballmer is that people don't pay a premium
for the hardware, but for the software.Paul Hogan


On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 4:31 PM, John Rethorst <jrethorst@...> wrote:

>   He's entitled to his opinion, however disinterested he claims it to be,
> but the author has a better point about longevity of a Mac's
> usefulness. The state of the economy is less a consideration for a
> once-every-few-years purchase.
>
>
>
http://www.pcworld.com/article/161700/ballmer_is_right_mac_users_do_pay_dearly_f\
or_apple_logo.html
>
> (Link may need to be copied and pasted.)
>
> John R.
>
>
>


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