And of course when I say "right-click" I mean "ctrl-click" if you have a
trackpad or one-button mouse.

--- In wordperfectmac@yahoogroups.com, Geoff Gilbert <Geoff@...> wrote:
>
> Edward
>
> I'm printing this out and it's going to sit beside me as I carry out the
> transformation. Fingers crossed
>
> Geoff
>
> Geoff Gilbert
> Professor of Law
> Editor-in-Chief, International Journal of Refugee Law
> School of Law and Human Rights Centre
> University of Essex
> Wivenhoe Park
> Colchester
> CO4 3SQ
>
> Tel: +44 (0)1206 872557
> Fax: +44 (0)1206 873428
> Email: geoff (for those outside the University, add @ followed by essex.ac.uk)
>
>
> On 03/03/2010 14:38, em315 wrote:
> > Geoff,
> >
> > No need to rebuild anything. If you want to try my automated system based on
John's and Smokey's work, but with your upgraded SheepShaver system, then
download my setup here:
> >
> > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/271144/WPMacPPC%20Installer.dmg
> >
> > Also download a ZIP file containing a script that needs to run inside
SheepShaver:
> >
> > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/271144/%7ERun%20Open%20WP%20Files.zip
> >
> > Unzip the file, and put it somewhere you can find it easily.
> >
> > When you've downloaded my system, drag the WPMacPPC application to your
desktop or your Applications folder or the Applications folder inside your Home
folder. You might want to try the system for a while, but when you're ready to
start using your own upgraded SheepShaver disk, do this:
> >
> > Find the two files in your SheepShaver folder named Mac OS ROM and
SheepShaver Volume.dmg. Drag COPIES of them to your desktop. DO NOT USE YOUR
ORIGINALS! IF YOU USE YOUR ORIGINAL COPIES AND DESTROY THEM, REMEMBER THAT I
WARNED YOU NOT TO USE YOUR ORIGINALS. Rename the COPY of SheepShaver Volume.dmg
to "WPMacPPC512.dsk" - and yes, it needs to have the .dsk extension, not .dmg,
and you must use exactly the same combination of upper-and-lower case letters.
If you don't do this exactly, the procedure is guaranteed NOT to work. And do
NOT touch your originals of either file!
> >
> > Now, right-click on my WPMacPPC program. Choose Show Package Contents.
Navigate to Contents, Resources, Files, and right-click on MacOS.sheepvm. Choose
Show Package Contents. Notice the two files inside named Mac OS ROM and
WPMacPPC512.dsk; drag them to some convenient backup folder (NOT your desktop,
which already has files with those names). Drag the two files with those names
FROM your desktop into this MacOS.sheepvm folder. Close all the Finder windows.
> >
> > In doing all this, don't be original, don't be clever, don't assume that I
implied that you should do something that I didn't say. This procedure will not
work unless these steps are followed exactly!
> >
> > Now double-click the WPMacPPC icon again. Your familiar SheepShaver volume
should start up. Go to the top-line SheepShaver menu, choose Preferences, go to
the Audio/Video tab and choose the screen size you want (it will open with this
screen size only after you shut SheepShaver down completely and then launch it
again - NOT merely by choosing Restart from the Special menu in SheepShaver
itself).
> >
> > Go to the Unix folder in SheepShaver. Drag to the SheepShaver disk (not just
the desktop) the script you unzipped earlier in the instructions. Put the script
in your SheepShaver System Folder's Startup Items folder. You may want to remove
any script that's in the Startup Items folder already. Shut down SheepShaver.
> >
> > Select a WPMac document in OS X. Press Cmd-I, find Open with, select
WPMacPPC if it isn't selected already and Change All... to make all WPMac files
open with WPMacPPC.
> >
> > Now double-click a WP file, or drag a WP file to the WPMacPPC icon.
SheepShaver will open and the WP file should open in WPMac.
> >
> > You'll have to set up printing on your own. You may be able to work exactly
as you do now, but maybe not. Try reading the Read Me First file in my setup.
Also, if your Unix folder is your Documents folder (not your Home folder, as in
my setup), open the WPMacPPC application in the AppleScript Editor, change a
setting near the top of the file (fully explained there) and save the file
(which will take a VERY long time because the file contains so many things).
> >
> > No guarantees. If this doesn't work, you've lost nothing but time. But it
worked here when I tried it just now with John's SheepShaver setup and it should
work with yours.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In wordperfectmac@yahoogroups.com, Geoff Gilbert<Geoff@>  wrote:
> >
> >> John
> >>
> >> Some of us who want to use this super new whizz bang system already have
> >> the older clunky model in place, but one running 8.6 or higher. It's so
> >> long since I installed 8.6 on the original Sheepshaver disk, I've
> >> forgotten how to do it. If I install this new system that allows me to
> >> launch files from the OSX desktop, can I upgrade to 8.6 on the
> >> Sheepshaver disk and how do I do it? Having got Sheepshaver working with
> >> few headaches, the idea of installing afresh for the promised wonders of
> >> a new age can be a tad daunting.
> >>
> >> Geoff
> >>
> >> Geoff Gilbert
> >> Professor of Law
> >> Editor-in-Chief, International Journal of Refugee Law
> >> School of Law and Human Rights Centre
> >> University of Essex
> >> Wivenhoe Park
> >> Colchester
> >> CO4 3SQ
> >>
> >> Tel: +44 (0)1206 872557
> >> Fax: +44 (0)1206 873428
> >> Email: geoff (for those outside the University, add @ followed by
essex.ac.uk)
> >>
> >>
> >> On 02/03/2010 03:45, jcrethorst wrote:
> >>
> >>> It's 2010, so many years after the 1984 that George Orwell so feared. We
all have computers, and they finally do what we want them to.
> >>>
> >>> I sit down in front of my Intel Mac and double-click a Photoshop file in
the Finder. The Photoshop program activates and shows me the file.
> >>>
> >>> I double-click a Filemaker database. Filemaker activates, and shows me the
file.
> >>>
> >>> I double-click a WordPerfect document. WordPerfect activates, and shows me
the file.
> >>>
> >>> Hey. Wait right there. WordPerfect isn't part of OSX.
> >>>
> >>> OK, but thanks to some excellent work by Ed Mendelson and Smokey Robinson,
you'd never know.
> >>>
> >>> WordPerfect is now almost entirely integrated with the OSX environment.
> >>>
> >>> That means, dude, Snow Leopard and OS versions for the foreseeable future.
> >>>
> >>> Currently in development: select a word in WP and run an Applescript from
your script menu. The OSX dictionary opens and looks up the word. That's already
in the Files section here for PPC, but will work on Intel starting in a week or
two.
> >>>
> >>> Now that we have double-click ->   open file, don't forget that WP,
itself, is still the (not _a_, but _the_) word processor from heaven, or
wherever it is that we go when we eat chocolate.
> >>>
> >>> So spend _how much $$_ on Word or something else (is there still anything
else? Nisus? Mellel? Mariner Write? Do they support footnotes yet?)
> >>>
> >>> Or spend _zilch_ on WP. Get the word processor Moses would have carried
down from the mountain had he been computer-literate.
> >>>
> >>> The OS9 environment weren't that bad, me friend, says the grizzled
prospector as he brings his mule down the trail. 'Specially now that it runs at
Intel Core Duo 2 speed. There's gold in the hills.
> >>>
> >>> But we knew that. We have WP.
> >>>
> >>> John R.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> .
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> > .
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

I don't want to diminish the great work done with Sheepshaver recently, but for
those who already have Parallels or Fusion, I just happened to notice that
WordPerfect Office X4 Standard edition is being sold on eBay for under $20. The
description says it can open 60 file formats, including pdf and Word 2007
documents. Since my main desktop Mac is a PPC with Classic mode and my laptop is
a MacBook where I already have Windows 7 under Boot Camp, I think I will
probably get Parallels and run WordPerfect X4 that way, as the ability to open
pdf and Word 2007 documents is something I need. But I want to express my thanks
to all who have done so much with the work on the Sheepshaver installation. Even
though I won't be using it to run WordPerfect anymore, I have a few old Mac
games that I just can't give up when I'm traveling with my MacBook.

Regards,

David

Guys:

I just downloaded and installed the WPMac Appliance, transferred some of my
fonts over and opened up an old document.  It looks great.

Absolutely amazing what you've done!  Incredible.  I'd tried to install through
Sheepsaver, etc., over the past few years but it seemed always more trouble than
it was worth (since I'd tweaked Word to emulate WP as much as possible).  But
this appliance is above and beyond the call of duty and is truly an incredible
piece of software.  My hat's off to everyone who took part and brought this to
fruition.

I'm missing only one thing:  the old 5.1 keyboard.  I searched the "files" here
to no avail.  I'm not sure what it was called or how it was installed.  And I
can't find my old copy of it.

Any help would be appreciated.

But again.  Great work!

Hi,

I'm currently in the process of upgrading and re-installing all of my software
(what a job!!) on a new and larger hard drive in my MBP which is now running Mac
OS X 10.5.8.  I'm at the point where I want to reinstall SS (SheepShaver) and I
see two installers in the files section; SheepShaver-WordPerfect Install
1.2.3.dmg and WPMacPPC Installer.  They're both about 190 MB in size.  My
question is, why these two files, and what's the difference, if any?  Is one
easier to install and/or more reliable than the other?  Any comments,
observations, advice will be most appreciated.  Many thanks.

Kind regards,
Bill C.

I use Word 2007 (somewhat unhappily). I am intrigued to see how interested
people are in running WP. Can someone briefly review it's merits for me? I
haven't used it in more than a decade.

Thanks
Brian

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 3, 2010, at 11:25 AM, "jjb3rd" <joe@...> wrote:

Guys:

I just downloaded and installed the WPMac Appliance, transferred some of my
fonts over and opened up an old document. It looks great.

Absolutely amazing what you've done! Incredible. I'd tried to install through
Sheepsaver, etc., over the past few years but it seemed always more trouble than
it was worth (since I'd tweaked Word to emulate WP as much as possible). But
this appliance is above and beyond the call of duty and is truly an incredible
piece of software. My hat's off to everyone who took part and brought this to
fruition.

I'm missing only one thing: the old 5.1 keyboard. I searched the "files" here to
no avail. I'm not sure what it was called or how it was installed. And I can't
find my old copy of it.

Any help would be appreciated.

But again. Great work!







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I don't think anyone can judge whether someone else will like any piece of
software. No one else uses a word processor in exactly the same way you do. Why
not download it and try it for yourself - no one else is better able to say
whether you'll like it or not?


--- In wordperfectmac@yahoogroups.com, Brian Byrd <pedalfaster2007@...> wrote:
>
> I use Word 2007 (somewhat unhappily). I am intrigued to see how interested
people are in running WP. Can someone briefly review it's merits for me? I
haven't used it in more than a decade.
>
> Thanks
> Brian
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 3, 2010, at 11:25 AM, "jjb3rd" <joe@...> wrote:
>
> Guys:
>
> I just downloaded and installed the WPMac Appliance, transferred some of my
fonts over and opened up an old document. It looks great.
>
> Absolutely amazing what you've done! Incredible. I'd tried to install through
Sheepsaver, etc., over the past few years but it seemed always more trouble than
it was worth (since I'd tweaked Word to emulate WP as much as possible). But
this appliance is above and beyond the call of duty and is truly an incredible
piece of software. My hat's off to everyone who took part and brought this to
fruition.
>
> I'm missing only one thing: the old 5.1 keyboard. I searched the "files" here
to no avail. I'm not sure what it was called or how it was installed. And I
can't find my old copy of it.
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> But again. Great work!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Let me put WP merits this way:  I have MS Word, Nissus Writer, TextEdit, and
Word Perfect.  If I have to, I use MS Word.  If I have any choice at all, I
use WordPerfect and have done so for over 12 years.  It would take too much
space to list every reason why.  It's not perfect (no serial undo, for
instance), but it's way more than enough.

If you load it, you will have to learn and adapt it, so don't expect it to work
perfectly for you the first time.

Daryl

--- On Wed, 3/3/10, Brian Byrd <pedalfaster2007@...> wrote:

From: Brian Byrd <pedalfaster2007@...>
Subject: Re: [wpmac] WPMac Appliance - WOW!
To: "wordperfectmac@yahoogroups.com" <wordperfectmac@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: "wordperfectmac@yahoogroups.com" <wordperfectmac@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 6:22 PM







 









       I use Word 2007 (somewhat unhappily). I am intrigued to see how interested
people are in running WP. Can someone briefly review it's merits for me? I
haven't used it in more than a decade.



Thanks

Brian



Sent from my iPhone



On Mar 3, 2010, at 11:25 AM, "jjb3rd" <joe@bongiovi. com> wrote:



Guys:



I just downloaded and installed the WPMac Appliance, transferred some of my
fonts over and opened up an old document. It looks great.



Absolutely amazing what you've done! Incredible. I'd tried to install through
Sheepsaver, etc., over the past few years but it seemed always more trouble than
it was worth (since I'd tweaked Word to emulate WP as much as possible). But
this appliance is above and beyond the call of duty and is truly an incredible
piece of software. My hat's off to everyone who took part and brought this to
fruition.



I'm missing only one thing: the old 5.1 keyboard. I searched the "files" here to
no avail. I'm not sure what it was called or how it was installed. And I can't
find my old copy of it.



Any help would be appreciated.



But again. Great work!



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]






















[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

We have one -- somewhere. I'll look for it.

John R.



--- In wordperfectmac@yahoogroups.com, "jjb3rd" <joe@...> wrote:

> I'm missing only one thing:  the old 5.1 keyboard.  I searched the "files"
here to no avail.  I'm not sure what it was called or how it was installed.  And
I can't find my old copy of it.

WordPerfect for Windows works very well in Parallels Desktop and VMWare Fusion,
and can even be set to run in an OS X window in those program's "unity" or
"seamless" mode or whatever they call them.

However, if you have files that were saved by WordPerfect for the Mac 3.5
Enhanced in the native format of WordPerfect for the Mac 3.5 Enhanced, then you
won't be able to open those files in WordPerfect for Windows. The ONLY programs
that can open those files are WordPerfect for the Mac 3.5 Enhanced, or
OpenOffice.org and programs based on OpenOffice.org.

This problem does NOT occur if your WordPerfect for the Mac files were saved in
the original WPMac 3.x format (NOT 3.5 Enhanced) or in a WordPerfect for DOS or
Windows format. But it does occur if your WP files were created or saved in
WPMac 3.5 Enhanced.

--- In wordperfectmac@yahoogroups.com, "ddschmalz" <ddschmalz@...> wrote:
>
> I don't want to diminish the great work done with Sheepshaver recently, but
for those who already have Parallels or Fusion, I just happened to notice that
WordPerfect Office X4 Standard edition is being sold on eBay for under $20. The
description says it can open 60 file formats, including pdf and Word 2007
documents. Since my main desktop Mac is a PPC with Classic mode and my laptop is
a MacBook where I already have Windows 7 under Boot Camp, I think I will
probably get Parallels and run WordPerfect X4 that way, as the ability to open
pdf and Word 2007 documents is something I need.

Hi all,

I'm new to all SS and the rest of it.

I would like to make the network to work on SS in order to see how much online
work I can do from within SS.

I've set the TCP/IP control panel to Ethernet and DHCP but without success to
actually connect to the web.

I'm running SS on an Intel iMac (Snow Leopard) which has a wireless connection
to a home ADSL network.

Thanks,
dovale29

I believe that SheepShaver's network capacities are not well developed, and your
interest would be more trouble than it's worth.

The folks at emaculation.com/forum know much more than we do about general
aspects of SheepShaver, however.

John R.



--- In wordperfectmac@yahoogroups.com, dovale29 <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'm new to all SS and the rest of it.
>
> I would like to make the network to work on SS in order to see how much online
work I can do from within SS.
>
> I've set the TCP/IP control panel to Ethernet and DHCP but without success to
actually connect to the web.
>
> I'm running SS on an Intel iMac (Snow Leopard) which has a wireless connection
to a home ADSL network.
>
> Thanks,
> dovale29
>

Dear Ann John and Smokey
I'm trying to install a version of SheepShaver that I can use to run many old
educational games - Number Munchers, Kid Works 2, MathTeam Pro, Zoo Zillions
etc. I installed a version of SheepShaver from this website and it runs quite
well except the SheepShaver screen is wide and shallow. I've seen posts
discussing this and I thought it had been addressed but now I've installed the
Jan 17, 2010 version from this website and it still has the wide shallow window.
I have other issues I want to try tweaking, but I can't proceed until I have a
better size window.
Can you please advise me?
Sincerely,
Anna Harbell
Montesano, WA

--- In wordperfectmac@yahoogroups.com, "em315" <em315@...> wrote:
>
> Once again borrowing ideas by John Rethorst and Smokey Ardisson, I've spent an
enjoyable few evenings putting together an improved version of a standalone
WPMac "application":
>
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/271144/WPMacPPC%20Installer.dmg
>
> Leopard/Snow Leopard only. Download the DMG file, read the Read Me First
document, double-click the ZIP file to extract the WPMac Appliance in your
Downloads folder. Move it from there to your Desktop  or your Applications
folder or to the Applications folder inside your home folder. Drag it to the
dock to place an icon for it in the dock.
>
> Now, drag a WP file or files to the application or its dock icon, and wait for
the special version of SheepShaver to open, and for the files you dragged to
open in SheepShaver. (This trick is entirely John's idea, and the code that
performs the trick is based very closely on his.)
>
> The first time you run it, it offers to install a printing system; details of
this are explained in the Read Me First file. If you want to print or create
PDFs, you MUST read the Read Me First file for instructions.
>
> If you press Cmd-I on a WP file in OS X, and specify that they should all open
with "WPMacPPC", then you can double-click any WP file to have it open in WPMac
in SheepShaver.
>
> This new version has a couple of tricks up its sleeve. Following a suggestion
by John, this one offers to rename or copy any WP file with a name longer than
31 characters (because SheepShaver won't work smoothly with files with longer
names).
>
> You can change the size of the SheepShaver window by opening the Preferences
dialog from the SheepShaver menu and go to the Audio/Video tab. If you select
Fullscreen instead of Window (or if you set the height and width to 0 and 0),
and then shut down SheepShaver, and then start it up again, SheepShaver will
open in a special almost-fullscreen mode. The standard OS X top-line menu will
disappear until you move the mouse cursor to the top of the screen (which you'll
need to do if you want to change the screen dimensions back again).
>
> A few other options are available if you open the WPMacPPC application in the
AppleScript Editor.  The top few lines of the code explain how to set the
program so that it opens in a portrait-style window (instead of the standard
landscape-style window). Another option lets you set the Unix folder in
SheepShaver to be your OS X Documents folder, instead of your OS X home folder
(it's the home folder by default).
>
> Again, this system uses a slower and buggier version of the Mac OS than John's
system, but it might be worth experimenting with if you have some spare time on
your hands.
>

Start SheepShaver. On the top line menu, click SheepShaver, then Preferences; go
to the Audio/Video tab and set the screen size to something you prefer (change
the height setting). Click Save. Shutdown SheepShaver completely; ignore any
error message about not being able to find the Unix disk if such a message
should appear. Restart SheepShaver.

--- In wordperfectmac@yahoogroups.com, "aharbell" <aharbell@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Ann John and Smokey
> I'm trying to install a version of SheepShaver that I can use to run many old
educational games - Number Munchers, Kid Works 2, MathTeam Pro, Zoo Zillions
etc. I installed a version of SheepShaver from this website and it runs quite
well except the SheepShaver screen is wide and shallow. I've seen posts
discussing this and I thought it had been addressed but now I've installed the
Jan 17, 2010 version from this website and it still has the wide shallow window.

I am sure this was discussed years ago but I cannot frame the right search
request to find it in the archives. So, does anybody remember the solution to
this...

Running WP 3.5e in Classic in OSX 10.4.11 on a number of identical machines. On
one of those machines, but only one, the Legal Watermarks macro is goofy. We
choose any one of the Legal Watermarks, get the window for New Watermark, click
OK, the screen goes to Graphic and shows the proper text with no problem. Up
comes the window for Watermark Options, click OK on the default and everything
has been completed as per normal. BUT in Print Preview the Watermark shows up as
a big X covering the entire page, no text. That is also how it prints.

None of the other Macros on this machine have this problem. We have replaced
that Macro with another from a machine that has no problems with it. We have
even re-typed the command lines, working from the script for a "good" macro. We
have thrown out the WP Preferences, re-build the desk top. No luck.

Does anybody have any other ideas? Thanks.

Barney

A couple of months ago, a newbie asked to be sent a copy of WP Mac and someone
who, I believe, works at a university offered to send her one.

I too, asked this group member for a copy and we exchanged a couple of e-mails
outside this group in which I provided my address.

The copy never arrived. I am unable to download it because of an error I get a
couple of times a months, when I attempt to download different pages:

"DANSGUARDIAN - Access Denied"

I have asked several "geniuses" in the Apple store about it, but no one has ever
seen it before, so they had no idea of how to get rid of it.

Could one of the people on this very active group please send me a copy?

Thanks.

Gene
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

Where are you trying to download it from? There are a few links here.

John R.




--- In wordperfectmac@yahoogroups.com, bberkeleycloyne@... wrote:
>
> A couple of months ago, a newbie asked to be sent a copy of WP Mac and someone
who, I believe, works at a university offered to send her one.
>
> I too, asked this group member for a copy and we exchanged a couple of e-mails
outside this group in which I provided my address.
>
> The copy never arrived. I am unable to download it because of an error I get a
couple of times a months, when I attempt to download different pages:
>
> "DANSGUARDIAN - Access Denied"
>
> I have asked several "geniuses" in the Apple store about it, but no one has
ever seen it before, so they had no idea of how to get rid of it.
>
> Could one of the people on this very active group please send me a copy?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Gene
> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>

Dan's Guardian is a filtering service used by some schools and businesses to
block offensive content from computers. It is presumably running on whatever
system you use to connect to the Internet. Ask the network administrator to turn
it off, or try to use another route to the internet.

--- In wordperfectmac@yahoogroups.com, bberkeleycloyne@... wrote:
>
> A couple of months ago, a newbie asked to be sent a copy of WP Mac and someone
who, I believe, works at a university offered to send her one.
>
> I too, asked this group member for a copy and we exchanged a couple of e-mails
outside this group in which I provided my address.
>
> The copy never arrived. I am unable to download it because of an error I get a
couple of times a months, when I attempt to download different pages:
>
> "DANSGUARDIAN - Access Denied"

On Mar 16, 2010, at 7:30 AM, bberkeleycloyne@... wrote:

> A couple of months ago, a newbie asked to be sent a copy of WP Mac
> and someone who, I believe, works at a university offered to send
> her one.
>
> I too, asked this group member for a copy and we exchanged a couple
> of e-mails outside this group in which I provided my address.
>
> The copy never arrived. I am unable to download it because of an
> error I get a couple of times a months, when I attempt to download
> different pages:
>
> "DANSGUARDIAN - Access Denied"
>
>

DANSGUARDIAN or more appropriately Dan's Guardian is a server side web
filter to eliminate access to porn, spam, etc. It's keyword driven,
which IMHO makes it useless.

For example, it blocks Sky News several times a day, and if you are
into ham radio, don't try to order an Morse code keys from Morse
Express (www.morsex.com).

If you have problems with it the best thing to do is to ask any
teenager who uses the same web connection on how to get to the porn
sites. They'll fix you up with a bypass right away. :-)

You could just ask your system admin to whitelist the site.

Geoff.



--
geoffrey mendelson N3OWJ/4X1GM
Jerusalem Israel geoffreymendelson@...
New word I coined 12/13/09, "Sub-Wikipedia" adj, describing knowledge
or understanding, as in he has a sub-wikipedia understanding of the
situation. i.e possessing less facts or information than can be found
in the Wikipedia.

For those who are following these messages, I think this mystery is solved.
Gene's internet provider (I won't name it in order to preserve privacy)
evidently uses Dan's Guardian to block large downloads (or at least some
category of downloads that includes the WP installer and some other things), and
that's why he can't access  them. The solution seems to be to switch to a
different internet provider.

--- In wordperfectmac@yahoogroups.com, bberkeleycloyne@... wrote:
>
> A couple of months ago, a newbie asked to be sent a copy of WP Mac and someone
who, I believe, works at a university offered to send her one.
>
> I too, asked this group member for a copy and we exchanged a couple of e-mails
outside this group in which I provided my address.
>
> The copy never arrived. I am unable to download it because of an error I get a
couple of times a months, when I attempt to download different pages:
>
> "DANSGUARDIAN - Access Denied"
>
> I have asked several "geniuses" in the Apple store about it, but no one has
ever seen it before, so they had no idea of how to get rid of it.
>
> Could one of the people on this very active group please send me a copy?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Gene
> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>

On Mar 17, 2010, at 4:08 PM, em315 wrote:

> For those who are following these messages, I think this mystery is
> solved. Gene's internet provider (I won't name it in order to
> preserve privacy) evidently uses Dan's Guardian to block large
> downloads (or at least some category of downloads that includes the
> WP installer and some other things), and that's why he can't access
> them. The solution seems to be to switch to a different internet
> provider.
>


No need to. Most of those systems are easy to get around, that's why I
(tounge in cheek) said to ask any teenager how to get to blocked
sites, they all know the work arounds.

You could look up "free internet proxy" or "free socks proxy".

He could also mention where he is, there may be someone on the list
who can make a copy for him, or if he has a laptop let him come over
and download it. I can/would do either, but my guess is he is too far
away to make it worthwhile.

Geoff.

--
geoffrey mendelson N3OWJ/4X1GM
Jerusalem Israel geoffreymendelson@...
New word I coined 12/13/09, "Sub-Wikipedia" adj, describing knowledge
or understanding, as in he has a sub-wikipedia understanding of the
situation. i.e possessing less facts or information than can be found
in the Wikipedia.

It's easy to get around a filtering system when the filtering system is on a
separate server that sits between your local computer and your remote ISP. The
proxy lets you bypass the local server and get data more or less directly from
the ISP. It would be interesting to learn whether this is just as easy when the
filtering system is on the ISP's servers, with no intermediate server to work
around. It may be easy, but I tend to suspect that it isn't.

--- In wordperfectmac@yahoogroups.com, geoffrey mendelson
<geoffreymendelson@...> wrote:
>
>
> No need to. Most of those systems are easy to get around, that's why I
> (tounge in cheek) said to ask any teenager how to get to blocked
> sites, they all know the work arounds.
>
> You could look up "free internet proxy" or "free socks proxy".
>
> He could also mention where he is, there may be someone on the list
> who can make a copy for him, or if he has a laptop let him come over
> and download it. I can/would do either, but my guess is he is too far
> away to make it worthwhile.
>

I finally received my WordPerfect for Windows X4 and installed it last night on
my Intel MacBook, which has Windows 7 in a Bootcamp partition. Then I created a
file on the PPC computer using WP 3.5 Enhanced and copied it to the MacBook
while running Windows. Although the file showed up in Windows with a generic
icon, WordPerfect opened it just fine. If I double-click the file's icon, it
shows no program associated with the file type and presents me with a list of
programs to use to open it, and if I choose WordPerfect, it opens without a
problem that way also. When I look at the properties of the Mac 3.5e file after
copying it to Windows, Windows 7 says "File type: File."

So, I don't have the solution that I had hoped to have, but it is not as bad as
not being able to open 3.5e files at all. I don't have Parallels installed on
this computer yet, but If I install Parallels and copy my 3.5e files to the
MacBook's OS X volume instead of the Bootcamp Windows volume, is there anything
I could do so that the files would have a WordPerfect icon and double-clicking
would cause OS X to start WordPerfect for Windows X4 and open the file? I'm
hoping that some of the work that was done to accomplish this using Sheepshaver
would also be applicable to starting the WP Windows application.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions,

David

--- In wordperfectmac@yahoogroups.com, "em315" <em315@...> wrote:
>
> WordPerfect for Windows works very well in Parallels Desktop and VMWare
Fusion, and can even be set to run in an OS X window in those program's "unity"
or "seamless" mode or whatever they call them.
>
> However, if you have files that were saved by WordPerfect for the Mac 3.5
Enhanced in the native format of WordPerfect for the Mac 3.5 Enhanced, then you
won't be able to open those files in WordPerfect for Windows. The ONLY programs
that can open those files are WordPerfect for the Mac 3.5 Enhanced, or
OpenOffice.org and programs based on OpenOffice.org.
>
> This problem does NOT occur if your WordPerfect for the Mac files were saved
in the original WPMac 3.x format (NOT 3.5 Enhanced) or in a WordPerfect for DOS
or Windows format. But it does occur if your WP files were created or saved in
WPMac 3.5 Enhanced.
>
> --- In wordperfectmac@yahoogroups.com, "ddschmalz" <ddschmalz@> wrote:
> >
> > I don't want to diminish the great work done with Sheepshaver recently, but
for those who already have Parallels or Fusion, I just happened to notice that
WordPerfect Office X4 Standard edition is being sold on eBay for under $20. The
description says it can open 60 file formats, including pdf and Word 2007
documents. Since my main desktop Mac is a PPC with Classic mode and my laptop is
a MacBook where I already have Windows 7 under Boot Camp, I think I will
probably get Parallels and run WordPerfect X4 that way, as the ability to open
pdf and Word 2007 documents is something I need.
>

1. If you create a file with only simple formatting in WP 3.5 Enhanced, WPWin X4
will be able to open it. If I create a file with complex formatting in WP 3.5
Enhanced, WPWin X4 either locks up when trying to open it, or displays an
"Unknown file format" message. There's no obvious way to predict which kind of
file WPWin X4 will be able to open.

2. If all your WPMac 3.5e are files that WPWin X4 can open, try saving them with
a .WPD file extension or rename them to have a .WPD extension if they already
exist. WPD is the Windows file type that WPWin X4 opens by default Read the
Parallels help file for information on opening specific Windows file types in
applications in Parallels.


--- In wordperfectmac@yahoogroups.com, "ddschmalz" <ddschmalz@...> wrote:
>
> I finally received my WordPerfect for Windows X4 and installed it last night
on my Intel MacBook, which has Windows 7 in a Bootcamp partition. Then I created
a file on the PPC computer using WP 3.5 Enhanced and copied it to the MacBook
while running Windows. Although the file showed up in Windows with a generic
icon, WordPerfect opened it just fine. If I double-click the file's icon, it
shows no program associated with the file type and presents me with a list of
programs to use to open it, and if I choose WordPerfect, it opens without a
problem that way also. When I look at the properties of the Mac 3.5e file after
copying it to Windows, Windows 7 says "File type: File."
>
> So, I don't have the solution that I had hoped to have, but it is not as bad
as not being able to open 3.5e files at all. I don't have Parallels installed on
this computer yet, but If I install Parallels and copy my 3.5e files to the
MacBook's OS X volume instead of the Bootcamp Windows volume, is there anything
I could do so that the files would have a WordPerfect icon and double-clicking
would cause OS X to start WordPerfect for Windows X4 and open the file? I'm
hoping that some of the work that was done to accomplish this using Sheepshaver
would also be applicable to starting the WP Windows application.
>
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions,
>
> David
>
> --- In wordperfectmac@yahoogroups.com, "em315" <em315@> wrote:
> >
> > WordPerfect for Windows works very well in Parallels Desktop and VMWare
Fusion, and can even be set to run in an OS X window in those program's "unity"
or "seamless" mode or whatever they call them.
> >
> > However, if you have files that were saved by WordPerfect for the Mac 3.5
Enhanced in the native format of WordPerfect for the Mac 3.5 Enhanced, then you
won't be able to open those files in WordPerfect for Windows. The ONLY programs
that can open those files are WordPerfect for the Mac 3.5 Enhanced, or
OpenOffice.org and programs based on OpenOffice.org.
> >
> > This problem does NOT occur if your WordPerfect for the Mac files were saved
in the original WPMac 3.x format (NOT 3.5 Enhanced) or in a WordPerfect for DOS
or Windows format. But it does occur if your WP files were created or saved in
WPMac 3.5 Enhanced.
> >
> > --- In wordperfectmac@yahoogroups.com, "ddschmalz" <ddschmalz@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I don't want to diminish the great work done with Sheepshaver recently,
but for those who already have Parallels or Fusion, I just happened to notice
that WordPerfect Office X4 Standard edition is being sold on eBay for under $20.
The description says it can open 60 file formats, including pdf and Word 2007
documents. Since my main desktop Mac is a PPC with Classic mode and my laptop is
a MacBook where I already have Windows 7 under Boot Camp, I think I will
probably get Parallels and run WordPerfect X4 that way, as the ability to open
pdf and Word 2007 documents is something I need.
> >
>

In Preferences > Files, you can set to save documents in WP 3.5 format by
default. This is intrinsically the same format as 3.5e except that the latter is
compressed to save space, something we all have more of now than when the format
was written.

MetaMacro can change a folder full of WP 3.5e files to 3.5 with a few clicks.


> --- In wordperfectmac@yahoogroups.com, "em315" <em315@> wrote:

> However, if you have files that were saved by WordPerfect for the Mac 3.5
Enhanced in the native format of WordPerfect for the Mac 3.5 Enhanced, then you
won't be able to open those files in WordPerfect for Windows. The ONLY programs
that can open those files are WordPerfect for the Mac 3.5 Enhanced, or
OpenOffice.org and programs based on OpenOffice.org.

> This problem does NOT occur if your WordPerfect for the Mac files were saved
in the original WPMac 3.x format (NOT 3.5 Enhanced) or in a WordPerfect for DOS
or Windows format. But it does occur if your WP files were created or saved in
WPMac 3.5 Enhanced.

When you create a file in wp3.5e just give it the extension .wpd, then it will
be recognized.


--- In wordperfectmac@yahoogroups.com, "ddschmalz" <ddschmalz@...> wrote:
>
> I finally received my WordPerfect for Windows X4 and installed it last night
on my Intel MacBook, which has Windows 7 in a Bootcamp partition. Then I created
a file on the PPC computer using WP 3.5 Enhanced and copied it to the MacBook
while running Windows. Although the file showed up in Windows with a generic
icon, WordPerfect opened it just fine. If I double-click the file's icon, it
shows no program associated with the file type and presents me with a list of
programs to use to open it, and if I choose WordPerfect, it opens without a
problem that way also. When I look at the properties of the Mac 3.5e file after
copying it to Windows, Windows 7 says "File type: File."
>
> So, I don't have the solution that I had hoped to have, but it is not as bad
as not being able to open 3.5e files at all. I don't have Parallels installed on
this computer yet, but If I install Parallels and copy my 3.5e files to the
MacBook's OS X volume instead of the Bootcamp Windows volume, is there anything
I could do so that the files would have a WordPerfect icon and double-clicking
would cause OS X to start WordPerfect for Windows X4 and open the file? I'm
hoping that some of the work that was done to accomplish this using Sheepshaver
would also be applicable to starting the WP Windows application.

I inherited a lot of WordPerfect files on an old Macintosh that only open in
System 9. I want to scrap system 9 because it is really slow and the computer is
old and will probably die soon. I need to either work on the WordPerfect files
in system 10 or convert them all to Word or some format I can work with in
system 10. Converting them to word one at a time is too time consuming.

I downloaded Conversions 2.1.2.sit and Conversion Droplets 1.0.1.sit and the
Conversion Guide.pdf.sit. Is this the best solution? I don't see any mention of
system 9 or 10 in the conversion guide.

Thanks, I really appreciate your help.

Mari

Relevant information here:

http://www.columbia.edu/~em36/wpdos/mac-intel.html#openinothers

--- In wordperfectmac@yahoogroups.com, "zRants" <mari@...> wrote:
>
> I inherited a lot of WordPerfect files on an old Macintosh that only open in
System 9. I want to scrap system 9 because it is really slow and the computer is
old and will probably die soon. I need to either work on the WordPerfect files
in system 10 or convert them all to Word or some format I can work with in
system 10. Converting them to word one at a time is too time consuming.
>

I have just downloaded the WPMacPPC disk image file and clicked on the zip icon
to extract the application to my downloads folder. So far so good.  But when I
double click on the app to launch it I get an error box headed "WPMacPPC" with
the following error message:

      Can't get <<class pcap>> "SheepShaver" of application "System Events".

I've tried (twice) trashing the app and reinstalling it from the disk image, but
I get the same error message each time I try to open the app. Have I omitted a
step somewhere or done something else wrong?

Three questions: could you please tell me the answer to each of the three:

1. What version of OS X are you using? Please click the Apple icon in the upper
left corner of the screen and click About This Mac, and tell me what Version it
reports of OS X.

2. Also, are you sure that you downloaded this version:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/271144/WPMacPPC%20Installer.dmg

3. Also, do you have another copy of SheepShaver running at the time you're
trying to run this one? If so, try shutting it down. If there's another version
of SheepShaver running at the same time, then I see how to fix the code so that
the error message won't occur, but I need to figure out exactly what is
happening.

Thanks.

--- In wordperfectmac@yahoogroups.com, "zaunce" <zaunce@...> wrote:
>
> I have just downloaded the WPMacPPC disk image file and clicked on the zip
icon to extract the application to my downloads folder. So far so good.  But
when I double click on the app to launch it I get an error box headed "WPMacPPC"
with the following error message:
>
>      Can't get <<class pcap>> "SheepShaver" of application "System

Yes, but if the 3.5e file has complex formatting, and it's saved in the default
3.5e format, then WordPerfect for Windows will not be able to open it. If it's a
simple text file, then WordPerfect for Windows will be able to open it, but
there is no easy way to predict whether WPWin will be able to open anything more
complex.

--- In wordperfectmac@yahoogroups.com, hans.dorsman <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> When you create a file in wp3.5e just give it the extension .wpd, then it will
be recognized.
>