Late last night I thought about the problem of adopting words with final consonant or consonant clusters into Pandunia. Both are forbidden in Pandunia's...
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<deinx nxtxr>
sasxsek
Jul 12, 2009 3:33 pm
... It really wasn't my idea. Lojban's use of "y" is very similar to what I did with "x". ... The only thing I can say is that if it's *optional* then I...
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steve rice
ansric
Jul 12, 2009 4:34 pm
... Trivia note: this is actually from Loglan, though Dana presumably got it second-hand from Lojban. On "Buffered Dialects" in Loglan, see...
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<deinx nxtxr>
sasxsek
Jul 12, 2009 4:44 pm
... This is yet another machinability concern. <@> as an alphabetic would be a *very* big mistake. The biggest problem being that you couldn't use it in...
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Risto Kupsala
rkupsala
Jul 12, 2009 7:58 pm
... Thanks. That is exactly my intention. In response to Dana, who suggested not to write schwa because it is optional, it shall be written because schwa...
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<deinx nxtxr>
sasxsek
Jul 12, 2009 11:57 pm
... If the intent is that it's "proper" to always pronounce this phoneme, then yes writing it makes pefect sense. ... I'd say <x> or <y> but that's just...
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Dmitri Ivanov
lingwadeplaneta
Aug 5, 2009 1:17 pm
The first line of "Pater Noster" in worldlangs: Mipela na papa, ta po sama. Cinau iu mofolo, kua tu neb. Meban di pa ja in ten. Nuy patra, kel es pa swarga. ...
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<deinx nxtxr>
sasxsek
Aug 5, 2009 2:27 pm
... "papa iu mofolo kua dom tu li paradis" father of I+you+they that reside at (name) Heaven No caps. No colons. "neb" means sky, not "heaven" which is...
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Dmitri Ivanov
lingwadeplaneta
Aug 5, 2009 3:15 pm
... No commas. No periods. No letters. Hand Alphabet only. (no seriousness) ... Why proper noun? Wouldn't it be more correct to reserve proper names for...
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steve rice
ansric
Aug 5, 2009 4:19 pm
From: Dmitri Ivanov lingwadeplaneta@... ... I get it: this is another "daft hats" joke. Well I say the gloves are off too. ... I'll agree with Dmitri...
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Risto Kupsala
rkupsala
Aug 5, 2009 7:20 pm
... That's fine, except there should be "na" in place of "in". Another possiblity: me-ban di ten na di pa-pa I am uncertain about "ten" (sky) and "pa"...
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<deinx nxtxr>
sasxsek
Aug 6, 2009 1:30 am
... "Heaven" is not the same as "sky" though. In religious reference it's "place" that exists outside the realm of the physical universe as we know it. To us...
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<deinx nxtxr>
sasxsek
Aug 6, 2009 1:35 am
... Actually I need to correct the correction because this sould have been introduced with the vocative marker "o papa ..." ... There are periods to mark the...
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steve rice
ansric
Aug 6, 2009 3:01 am
... From: "<deinx nxtxr>" deinx.nxtxr@... ... It's the same word in most languages I'm aware of, and while Inlis is supposed to look like English and...
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Jens Wilkinson
jowilkinson4
Aug 6, 2009 4:22 am
... Just to add a tiny bit to what Steve wrote, it's a little complicated in Chinese and Japanese. First, in Chinese, there are two words, pronounced "tian"...
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Jens Wilkinson
jowilkinson4
Aug 6, 2009 4:26 am
... It's not your fault, but I've changed some things so would want to retranslate this. Mi-saba no papa, po anda nuwa. (our father, that sit above) Jens...
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vryzhyg
Aug 16, 2009 7:48 pm
Hello. I'm a new member here, and I've been intrigued by worldlangs ever since I discovered Ceqli a few years ago. I'm particularly interested in the...
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cafaristeir
Aug 16, 2009 8:12 pm
... Sellamat Joseph (it's easier to pronounce than Vryzhyg) and welcome to the group. VSO or SOV may be a good solution when there are only components in the...
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<deinx nxtxr>
sasxsek
Aug 16, 2009 8:26 pm
... Welcome! | ¡Bienvenidos | Добро пожалобать | salam. | ¡aloha. ... SASXSEK intentionally blurs the lines between parts of speech so when I...
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steve rice
ansric
Aug 16, 2009 9:09 pm
... That seems to be an artificial type of language, though. I'm reasonably sure that all languages have noun-like and verb-like elements, and ignoring that in...
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vryzhyg
Aug 16, 2009 9:44 pm
... SVO has the same problem - a three-word sentence could be a transitive verb with two arguments, or an intransitive verb with a compound noun as its subject...
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steve rice
ansric
Aug 16, 2009 11:58 pm
... From: vryzhyg vryzhyg@... ... If there's neither marking nor inherent class, then there's the problem of finding anything regardless of order. I'm...
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vryzhyg
Aug 17, 2009 12:11 am
... Hmm. That's hardly an argument in favor of SVO at all. First, English and Mandarin both have a verb-noun distinction, which makes SVO possible for them...
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<deinx nxtxr>
sasxsek
Aug 17, 2009 1:14 am
... I played with all the possibilities during the earliest stages of SASXSEK development. OVS, OSV AND VOS were eliminated as possibilities almost instantly...
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steve rice
ansric
Aug 17, 2009 3:00 am
... From: vryzhyg vryzhyg@... ... I suggest that you find a natlang that does not make that distinction. The noun/verb distinction is, as I recall, a...
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steve rice
ansric
Aug 17, 2009 3:04 am
... From: "<deinx nxtxr>" deinx.nxtxr@... ... also some of the most popular in the world: English, Mandarin, Spanish(1), French(1), Portuguese(1),...
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vryzhyg
Aug 17, 2009 3:41 am
... Huh? In VSO and SOV, the verbs are reliably found at the beginning or end, respectively, of the sentence. Of course, the classifications by S, V, and O...
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<deinx nxtxr>
sasxsek
Aug 17, 2009 3:56 am
... Every language indeed has words that function as nouns and verbs, being that a complete sentence at the least requires a verb and its subject. That...
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steve rice
ansric
Aug 17, 2009 4:18 am
... From: vryzhyg vryzhyg@... ... If there is no marking or inherent class, it's impossible to tell modifier from modified, among other things, so a word...
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steve rice
ansric
Aug 17, 2009 4:29 am
... From: "<deinx nxtxr>" deinx.nxtxr@... ... being that a complete sentence at the least requires a verb and its subject. That doesn't mean they...
