Greetings,

Need your help, folks. I've got two columns I can write for next
Monday. Which would you rather see first? One of them is a comparison
of spell checking apps for the Palm, and the other is a review of
MegaDoc, the first true WYSIWYG word processor for PalmOS.

What say you?

JK

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Greetings,

First off, I love MegaDoc. I've been waiting three years for a real
word processor for PalmOS, and this one looks great, especially since
it edits Word Doc, RTF, Text, HTML and Palm Doc with full formatting.
Brilliant. And can it really be free?

But...

I have two issues with it. The first is that SpellMan doesn't work. I
suspect this is because you don't use a standard PalmOS text entry
field, which only makes sense for displaying formatting. If that is the
case, SpellMan will never work. C'est la vie.

The other issue is more annoying, and I'm hesitant to recommend this
MegaDoc to my readers if it isn't resolved. If I sync a document using
MegaDoc Manager, the marker checkbox is solid, allowing me to check it
and sync my changes back to the PC. If I create the file directly on
the Palm (either creating in scratch in MegaDoc or exporting a doc file
from peditPro) the marker checkbox is dotted for PDoc and HTML files. I
have noticed that if I rename a file to Text, Word Doc or RTF, the
checkbox turns solid and I can sync the file to the PC. Why can this
not be done for HTML? I write my books with HTML as the final output
format, and it would be much better for me not to have to convert them
to Word Doc or RTF format first, then use Word to convert to HTML, then
run Word's horrible HTML through Tidy to clean it up... If I could
output from MegaDoc straight to HTML, it would allow me to almost take
the PC out of the process altogether, using it only for zipping and
uploading the HTML document when I'm done. I'd prefer to do *all* of my
editing on the Palm.

Thank you for your attention to this matter, and I look forward to more
improvements to an already excellent product.

Jeff Kirvin

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We have listed a nice collection of eBook software available for
Palm, Win CE and Pocket PC at:

http://www.eBookAd.com/software.php3

Was hoping you guys (and gals) could offer some more suggestions for
other useful eBook software for these platforms.

We are also looking for your expert opinions on these programs.

Look forward to hearing from you.

Best regards,

Dustin Revin
Executive Vice President
eBookAd.com Inc.
drevin@...
Phone: (905) 947-8322
Fax: (905) 947-8783

--- White Crow <whytcrow@...> wrote:
> Yuck again.  So, it sounds as if the PocketPC is good if you want
> what you
> are given, but any optimization of software around specialized needs
> is
> hard to do or impossible.

This is what I've gathered from my own research. The PocketPC is great
if it does what you want right out of the box. If you need
customization, the Palm is the way to go.

JK

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--- In peditors@egroups.com, White Crow <whytcrow@i...> wrote:
> > Have you looked at:
> >
> >  http://www.jeffkirvin.com/writingonyourpalm/
>
> I know I have--I'm even on the (pretty much silent) email list for
it.  I
> was really excited by the idea of the list and the column, although
the
> last few columns have been less than useful for me (for others,
> maybe--the topics center on etexts and whatnot).

Ebooks have been much on my mind recently, with the whole Napster
debate, etc. There hasn't been a lot of action on the Palm front. No
new apps to speak of (although I'm looking forward to the continued
development of Paul's LaptopHack), and Palm's new models are just more
of the same. I'm looking forward to comparing the Sony PEG to the color
Visor, but until then...

> I dunno, but I'd rather some more discussion on the craft of writing
on
> your palm than stuff at the other end (publishing), but that's just
> me.  I'm nowhere near publication yet. ;)

I'm always open to suggestions. If there's a topic you'd like to know
more about, let me know and I'll see if I can build a column around it.

> There aremany great reviews in the column, with writers in mind, and
> that's what I read it for.  Just as an aside, that's where I heard
about
> pedit, now that I think about it.  The review said something like
"I'd
> dismissed this newcomer for being too complicated, but on urging from
a
> friend took a closer look.  Now it's my favorite editor."

Give me something to review, and I'll be more than happy to tell you
what I think of it. :^)

Actually, I've been invited to Microsoft's PocketPC Summit next month
in Redmond. They want to prove to me that the PocketPC is better than
the Palm for the mobile writer. I've got my ideas, based on what I've
seen from both, but I'm going into this with an open mind. Tell me what
you think, though, before I go. Which is the better tool for the writer
on the go?

JK

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They can't. They're too easy to reproduce. This is but one of many of
the things that simply doesn't translate from physical media to virtual
media.

JK

--- Tim Woerner <TEWoerner@...> wrote:
> I know there are exceptions, but the libraries I've frequented were
> not actually free but public libraries funded through income taxes,
> as a (fantastic) public service.  If folks had to pay per reading
> they would restrict their reading and not be as educated and
> cultured.  Libraries buy their books and a part of the distribution
> chain, and have tried to expand their offereings to include all
> physical media.  The question is how can *.pdb files be time manged
> like a paper book or CD or VHS tape?
>
> --- In woyp@egroups.com, kwtam@s... wrote:
> > Mr Kirvin:
> >
> > I read with interest your column, which often explores the issues
> of
> > publishing and intellectual property, including your latest
> > installment on Stephen King's "The Plant".  I note that you
> yourself
> > have a number of works in the Sci-Fi section of Free ePress which
> can
> > be downloaded for free; payment comes as a thank-you for a job well
>
> > done.
> >
> > I'm sure that I would enjoy your works, although I haven't
> downloaded
> > any yet.  Why not?  I don't know how much they are worth.
> >
> > I grew up as a rabid bookworm, and I thought that the public
> library
> > was one greatest invention in North America next to wall-to-wall
> > carpeting and real grass.  I have grown up devouring fiction at the
>
> > local library.
> >
> > For free.
> >
> > I admit that I'm not sure why people would want to actually shell
> out
> > money for a novel when you can get it for free at the library.
> Maybe
> > it's because they want to have it available to re-read whenever
> they
> > like, whereas once I read a story, there is no appeal in re-reading
>
> a
> > known plot.  Maybe they want to take their time reading it, whereas
>
> I
> > like to devour mine in the space of a few days.  In any case, it's
> > not that I don't want to reward the author; but if it's all the
> same,
> > I'd rather get it at the library.
> >
> > If the books had not been free at the library, how much would I
> have
> > been willing to pay?
> >
> > I don't know.  I probably wouldn't have, and as a child, I would
> > probably have missed out a great deal on my education.
> >
> > So I thought, "Well, *if* I've already decided I'm not going to
> pay,
> > then I shouldn't read Mr Kirvin's work."
> >
> > But wait a minute.  Hypothetically, given that I won't pay (I
> > probably _will_ end up paying), would it not be better that I read
> it
> > anyway?  I might enjoy it so much that I recommend it to a friend,
> > who then *does* pay.
> >
> > My hope is that the level of profit from selling fiction will be
> > maintained despite a drop in the socially acceptable price of works
>
> > of fiction, say, $1/book.  This would mainly be due to decreased
> cost
> > of production, I would say.  What about an increase in the number
> of
> > readers because of its wide accessibility?  Not in the long run,
> > because the ease of self-publishing in the electronic era means
> that
> > the market will be flooded with ebooks competing for attention, so
> > the number of readers isn't necessarily going to rise, and in fact
> > may very well drop.
>
>


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I know there are exceptions, but the libraries I've frequented were
not actually free but public libraries funded through income taxes,
as a (fantastic) public service.  If folks had to pay per reading
they would restrict their reading and not be as educated and
cultured.  Libraries buy their books and a part of the distribution
chain, and have tried to expand their offereings to include all
physical media.  The question is how can *.pdb files be time manged
like a paper book or CD or VHS tape?

--- In woyp@egroups.com, kwtam@s... wrote:
> Mr Kirvin:
>
> I read with interest your column, which often explores the issues
of
> publishing and intellectual property, including your latest
> installment on Stephen King's "The Plant".  I note that you
yourself
> have a number of works in the Sci-Fi section of Free ePress which
can
> be downloaded for free; payment comes as a thank-you for a job well
> done.
>
> I'm sure that I would enjoy your works, although I haven't
downloaded
> any yet.  Why not?  I don't know how much they are worth.
>
> I grew up as a rabid bookworm, and I thought that the public
library
> was one greatest invention in North America next to wall-to-wall
> carpeting and real grass.  I have grown up devouring fiction at the
> local library.
>
> For free.
>
> I admit that I'm not sure why people would want to actually shell
out
> money for a novel when you can get it for free at the library.
Maybe
> it's because they want to have it available to re-read whenever
they
> like, whereas once I read a story, there is no appeal in re-reading
a
> known plot.  Maybe they want to take their time reading it, whereas
I
> like to devour mine in the space of a few days.  In any case, it's
> not that I don't want to reward the author; but if it's all the
same,
> I'd rather get it at the library.
>
> If the books had not been free at the library, how much would I
have
> been willing to pay?
>
> I don't know.  I probably wouldn't have, and as a child, I would
> probably have missed out a great deal on my education.
>
> So I thought, "Well, *if* I've already decided I'm not going to
pay,
> then I shouldn't read Mr Kirvin's work."
>
> But wait a minute.  Hypothetically, given that I won't pay (I
> probably _will_ end up paying), would it not be better that I read
it
> anyway?  I might enjoy it so much that I recommend it to a friend,
> who then *does* pay.
>
> My hope is that the level of profit from selling fiction will be
> maintained despite a drop in the socially acceptable price of works
> of fiction, say, $1/book.  This would mainly be due to decreased
cost
> of production, I would say.  What about an increase in the number
of
> readers because of its wide accessibility?  Not in the long run,
> because the ease of self-publishing in the electronic era means
that
> the market will be flooded with ebooks competing for attention, so
> the number of readers isn't necessarily going to rise, and in fact
> may very well drop.

I've said before that editors are still needed, but the relationships
will change. Many writers will be self-published, but that doesn't
necessarily mean unedited. I see a big market opening up for freelance
contract editors, hired by the writer. A reversal of the current model,
but still workable.

JK

--- "Philippe D. Radley" <pradley@...> wrote:
> I have many reasons for going to libraries, but unwillingness to buy
> books
> is not one of them. I go to libraries mainly 1) to sample an author,
> or 2)
> to get a book I can not find elsewhere, or 3) to do research in a
> book only
> parts of which I need to consult.
> I buy books because - this may shock some people - I often reread
> (and
> sometimes must, for my work). I also write notes in books, something
> public
> libraries do not appreciate.
> None of these views are new to you or other WOYP readers, and I am
> sure
> others share them (or don't, as the case may be). But I remain
> unconvinced
> that the market will respond to ebooks as you think they will, i.e.
> pay
> enough so that you can cover your costs. What's more, what you will
> get from
> self-publishers is what vanity presses have been providing for a long
> time,
> unedited and often poor writing. I have read manuscripts before, and,
> though
> I am no editor, have been overwhelmed by the need for editing. Who
> will be
> the editors of the self-publishers? This is an issue which you, Jeff,
> and
> other authors must consider seriously. I look to good writing to help
> me
> write better, but good writing is often the work of an editor. If we
> lose
> editors or worse the sense that we need editors, writing will get
> worse and
> worse, I fear.
> Philippe D. Radley
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Kirvin [mailto:jkirvin@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 11:40 AM
> To: woyp@egroups.com
> Subject: Re: [woyp] Free eBooks
>
> All arguments I've heard before, and in most cases agree with. Please
> download and read anything you want from Free-ePress. If you like it,
> and want to pay me what you think it's worth, please do. But if you
> honestly don't feel the books are worth paying for, you're under no
> obligation to pay for them (essentially, you are paying what you
> think
> they're worth, which is $0). I also encourage you to redistribute
> them
> to anyone you think might enjoy them.
>
> I've figured out that most people will not pay for them. That's to be
> expected. It's all part of the price of doing business. However, if
> one
> person in 20 or 30 actually pays, I still end up doing as well as or
> better than someone published in print.
>
> Crazy world, ain't it?
>
> JK
>
> --- kwtam@... wrote:
> > Mr Kirvin:
> >
> > I read with interest your column, which often explores the issues
> of
> > publishing and intellectual property, including your latest
> > installment on Stephen King's "The Plant".  I note that you
> yourself
> > have a number of works in the Sci-Fi section of Free ePress which
> can
> >
> > be downloaded for free; payment comes as a thank-you for a job well
> > done.
> >
> > I'm sure that I would enjoy your works, although I haven't
> downloaded
> >
> > any yet.  Why not?  I don't know how much they are worth.
> >
> > I grew up as a rabid bookworm, and I thought that the public
> library
> > was one greatest invention in North America next to wall-to-wall
> > carpeting and real grass.  I have grown up devouring fiction at the
> > local library.
> >
> > For free.
> >
> > I admit that I'm not sure why people would want to actually shell
> out
> >
> > money for a novel when you can get it for free at the library.
> Maybe
> >
> > it's because they want to have it available to re-read whenever
> they
> > like, whereas once I read a story, there is no appeal in re-reading
> a
> >
> > known plot.  Maybe they want to take their time reading it, whereas
> I
> >
> > like to devour mine in the space of a few days.  In any case, it's
> > not that I don't want to reward the author; but if it's all the
> same,
> >
> > I'd rather get it at the library.
> >
> > If the books had not been free at the library, how much would I
> have
> > been willing to pay?
> >
> > I don't know.  I probably wouldn't have, and as a child, I would
> > probably have missed out a great deal on my education.
> >
> > So I thought, "Well, *if* I've already decided I'm not going to
> pay,
> > then I shouldn't read Mr Kirvin's work."
> >
> > But wait a minute.  Hypothetically, given that I won't pay (I
> > probably _will_ end up paying), would it not be better that I read
> it
> >
> > anyway?  I might enjoy it so much that I recommend it to a friend,
> > who then *does* pay.
> >
> > My hope is that the level of profit from selling fiction will be
> > maintained despite a drop in the socially acceptable price of works
> > of fiction, say, $1/book.  This would mainly be due to decreased
> cost
> >
> > of production, I would say.  What about an increase in the number
> of
> > readers because of its wide accessibility?  Not in the long run,
> > because the ease of self-publishing in the electronic era means
> that
> > the market will be flooded with ebooks competing for attention, so
> > the number of readers isn't necessarily going to rise, and in fact
> > may very well drop.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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> http://www.jeffkirvin.com/writingonyourpalm/
>
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I have many reasons for going to libraries, but unwillingness to buy books
is not one of them. I go to libraries mainly 1) to sample an author, or 2)
to get a book I can not find elsewhere, or 3) to do research in a book only
parts of which I need to consult.
I buy books because - this may shock some people - I often reread (and
sometimes must, for my work). I also write notes in books, something public
libraries do not appreciate.
None of these views are new to you or other WOYP readers, and I am sure
others share them (or don't, as the case may be). But I remain unconvinced
that the market will respond to ebooks as you think they will, i.e. pay
enough so that you can cover your costs. What's more, what you will get from
self-publishers is what vanity presses have been providing for a long time,
unedited and often poor writing. I have read manuscripts before, and, though
I am no editor, have been overwhelmed by the need for editing. Who will be
the editors of the self-publishers? This is an issue which you, Jeff, and
other authors must consider seriously. I look to good writing to help me
write better, but good writing is often the work of an editor. If we lose
editors or worse the sense that we need editors, writing will get worse and
worse, I fear.
Philippe D. Radley

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Kirvin [mailto:jkirvin@...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 11:40 AM
To: woyp@egroups.com
Subject: Re: [woyp] Free eBooks

All arguments I've heard before, and in most cases agree with. Please
download and read anything you want from Free-ePress. If you like it,
and want to pay me what you think it's worth, please do. But if you
honestly don't feel the books are worth paying for, you're under no
obligation to pay for them (essentially, you are paying what you think
they're worth, which is $0). I also encourage you to redistribute them
to anyone you think might enjoy them.

I've figured out that most people will not pay for them. That's to be
expected. It's all part of the price of doing business. However, if one
person in 20 or 30 actually pays, I still end up doing as well as or
better than someone published in print.

Crazy world, ain't it?

JK

--- kwtam@... wrote:
> Mr Kirvin:
>
> I read with interest your column, which often explores the issues of
> publishing and intellectual property, including your latest
> installment on Stephen King's "The Plant".  I note that you yourself
> have a number of works in the Sci-Fi section of Free ePress which can
>
> be downloaded for free; payment comes as a thank-you for a job well
> done.
>
> I'm sure that I would enjoy your works, although I haven't downloaded
>
> any yet.  Why not?  I don't know how much they are worth.
>
> I grew up as a rabid bookworm, and I thought that the public library
> was one greatest invention in North America next to wall-to-wall
> carpeting and real grass.  I have grown up devouring fiction at the
> local library.
>
> For free.
>
> I admit that I'm not sure why people would want to actually shell out
>
> money for a novel when you can get it for free at the library.  Maybe
>
> it's because they want to have it available to re-read whenever they
> like, whereas once I read a story, there is no appeal in re-reading a
>
> known plot.  Maybe they want to take their time reading it, whereas I
>
> like to devour mine in the space of a few days.  In any case, it's
> not that I don't want to reward the author; but if it's all the same,
>
> I'd rather get it at the library.
>
> If the books had not been free at the library, how much would I have
> been willing to pay?
>
> I don't know.  I probably wouldn't have, and as a child, I would
> probably have missed out a great deal on my education.
>
> So I thought, "Well, *if* I've already decided I'm not going to pay,
> then I shouldn't read Mr Kirvin's work."
>
> But wait a minute.  Hypothetically, given that I won't pay (I
> probably _will_ end up paying), would it not be better that I read it
>
> anyway?  I might enjoy it so much that I recommend it to a friend,
> who then *does* pay.
>
> My hope is that the level of profit from selling fiction will be
> maintained despite a drop in the socially acceptable price of works
> of fiction, say, $1/book.  This would mainly be due to decreased cost
>
> of production, I would say.  What about an increase in the number of
> readers because of its wide accessibility?  Not in the long run,
> because the ease of self-publishing in the electronic era means that
> the market will be flooded with ebooks competing for attention, so
> the number of readers isn't necessarily going to rise, and in fact
> may very well drop.
>
>
>
>


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All arguments I've heard before, and in most cases agree with. Please
download and read anything you want from Free-ePress. If you like it,
and want to pay me what you think it's worth, please do. But if you
honestly don't feel the books are worth paying for, you're under no
obligation to pay for them (essentially, you are paying what you think
they're worth, which is $0). I also encourage you to redistribute them
to anyone you think might enjoy them.

I've figured out that most people will not pay for them. That's to be
expected. It's all part of the price of doing business. However, if one
person in 20 or 30 actually pays, I still end up doing as well as or
better than someone published in print.

Crazy world, ain't it?

JK

--- kwtam@... wrote:
> Mr Kirvin:
>
> I read with interest your column, which often explores the issues of
> publishing and intellectual property, including your latest
> installment on Stephen King's "The Plant".  I note that you yourself
> have a number of works in the Sci-Fi section of Free ePress which can
>
> be downloaded for free; payment comes as a thank-you for a job well
> done.
>
> I'm sure that I would enjoy your works, although I haven't downloaded
>
> any yet.  Why not?  I don't know how much they are worth.
>
> I grew up as a rabid bookworm, and I thought that the public library
> was one greatest invention in North America next to wall-to-wall
> carpeting and real grass.  I have grown up devouring fiction at the
> local library.
>
> For free.
>
> I admit that I'm not sure why people would want to actually shell out
>
> money for a novel when you can get it for free at the library.  Maybe
>
> it's because they want to have it available to re-read whenever they
> like, whereas once I read a story, there is no appeal in re-reading a
>
> known plot.  Maybe they want to take their time reading it, whereas I
>
> like to devour mine in the space of a few days.  In any case, it's
> not that I don't want to reward the author; but if it's all the same,
>
> I'd rather get it at the library.
>
> If the books had not been free at the library, how much would I have
> been willing to pay?
>
> I don't know.  I probably wouldn't have, and as a child, I would
> probably have missed out a great deal on my education.
>
> So I thought, "Well, *if* I've already decided I'm not going to pay,
> then I shouldn't read Mr Kirvin's work."
>
> But wait a minute.  Hypothetically, given that I won't pay (I
> probably _will_ end up paying), would it not be better that I read it
>
> anyway?  I might enjoy it so much that I recommend it to a friend,
> who then *does* pay.
>
> My hope is that the level of profit from selling fiction will be
> maintained despite a drop in the socially acceptable price of works
> of fiction, say, $1/book.  This would mainly be due to decreased cost
>
> of production, I would say.  What about an increase in the number of
> readers because of its wide accessibility?  Not in the long run,
> because the ease of self-publishing in the electronic era means that
> the market will be flooded with ebooks competing for attention, so
> the number of readers isn't necessarily going to rise, and in fact
> may very well drop.
>
>
>
>


=====
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Writing On Your Palm
http://www.jeffkirvin.com/writingonyourpalm/

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Mr Kirvin:

I read with interest your column, which often explores the issues of
publishing and intellectual property, including your latest
installment on Stephen King's "The Plant".  I note that you yourself
have a number of works in the Sci-Fi section of Free ePress which can
be downloaded for free; payment comes as a thank-you for a job well
done.

I'm sure that I would enjoy your works, although I haven't downloaded
any yet.  Why not?  I don't know how much they are worth.

I grew up as a rabid bookworm, and I thought that the public library
was one greatest invention in North America next to wall-to-wall
carpeting and real grass.  I have grown up devouring fiction at the
local library.

For free.

I admit that I'm not sure why people would want to actually shell out
money for a novel when you can get it for free at the library.  Maybe
it's because they want to have it available to re-read whenever they
like, whereas once I read a story, there is no appeal in re-reading a
known plot.  Maybe they want to take their time reading it, whereas I
like to devour mine in the space of a few days.  In any case, it's
not that I don't want to reward the author; but if it's all the same,
I'd rather get it at the library.

If the books had not been free at the library, how much would I have
been willing to pay?

I don't know.  I probably wouldn't have, and as a child, I would
probably have missed out a great deal on my education.

So I thought, "Well, *if* I've already decided I'm not going to pay,
then I shouldn't read Mr Kirvin's work."

But wait a minute.  Hypothetically, given that I won't pay (I
probably _will_ end up paying), would it not be better that I read it
anyway?  I might enjoy it so much that I recommend it to a friend,
who then *does* pay.

My hope is that the level of profit from selling fiction will be
maintained despite a drop in the socially acceptable price of works
of fiction, say, $1/book.  This would mainly be due to decreased cost
of production, I would say.  What about an increase in the number of
readers because of its wide accessibility?  Not in the long run,
because the ease of self-publishing in the electronic era means that
the market will be flooded with ebooks competing for attention, so
the number of readers isn't necessarily going to rise, and in fact
may very well drop.

Okay, I'll start announcing new columns. You're not that late. I didn't
get this one posted until this morning. My USB cradle died at home and
I wasn't able to sync the column to the PC for upload until I got to
work this morning. :^)

I think the editorial mentioned below nails this issue spot on. The
recording industry (and watch, book publishers will follow suit) (Agh!
Puns!) is just barking at the moon, trying to preserve a business model
that's already doomed. They're buggy whip makers, they know it, and
they don't like it. Now if they followed Ms. Love's advice and actually
changed the way they did business so that they actually added some
value to the process, there might be a place for them in the digital
economy. But I don't think they'll wise up in time.

JK

--- Lee Hauser <lhauser@...> wrote:
> I finally got around to reading Jeff's column re: Napster (Jeff, you
> really
> should announce your columns to the list...I never remember to look
> at the
> WOYP site on Mondays). I agree, and have a couple of interesting
> sites for
> people interested in the subject to look at.
>
> The first is an excellent story on Salon.com, "Courtney Does The
> Math."
> It's  a transcript of a talk given by Courtney Love leader of the
> band
> "Hole." She essentially takes the music industry apart and shows how
> it
> ticks, and it doesn't tick in the favor of artists at all. She's no
> fan of
> Napster, but she's no fan of the music industry as it exists today,
> either.
> The article is long but worth the read at:
>
> http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2000/06/14/love/index.html
>
> Second is an editorial in yesterday's Seattle Times, which I think
> summarizes the whole Napster vs. The Industry pretty well, and
> essentially
> says the Industry doesn't stand a snowball's chance of keeping thier
> coveted position for much longer.
>
>
http://archives.seattletimes.nwsource.com/cgi-bin/texis/web/vortex/display?slug=\
napster31&date=20000731&query=napster
>
>
> --
> Lee Hauser
> lhauser@...
> "Perfection (in design) is achieved not when there is nothing more to
> add,
> but rather when there is nothing more to take away."
> 			 --Antoine de Saint-Exupéry,
> 				  as quoted by Eric Raymond in "The Cathedral and the Bazaar"
>
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
> http://im.yahoo.com
>


=====
Jeff Kirvin
Writing On Your Palm
http://www.jeffkirvin.com/writingonyourpalm/

__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites.
http://invites.yahoo.com/

I finally got around to reading Jeff's column re: Napster (Jeff, you really
should announce your columns to the list...I never remember to look at the
WOYP site on Mondays). I agree, and have a couple of interesting sites for
people interested in the subject to look at.

The first is an excellent story on Salon.com, "Courtney Does The Math."
It's  a transcript of a talk given by Courtney Love leader of the band
"Hole." She essentially takes the music industry apart and shows how it
ticks, and it doesn't tick in the favor of artists at all. She's no fan of
Napster, but she's no fan of the music industry as it exists today, either.
The article is long but worth the read at:

http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2000/06/14/love/index.html

Second is an editorial in yesterday's Seattle Times, which I think
summarizes the whole Napster vs. The Industry pretty well, and essentially
says the Industry doesn't stand a snowball's chance of keeping thier
coveted position for much longer.

http://archives.seattletimes.nwsource.com/cgi-bin/texis/web/vortex/display?slug=\
napster31&date=20000731&query=napster


--
Lee Hauser
lhauser@...
"Perfection (in design) is achieved not when there is nothing more to add,
but rather when there is nothing more to take away."
				 --Antoine de Saint-Exupéry,
				   as quoted by Eric Raymond in "The Cathedral and the Bazaar"


__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com

... Also, any recommendations for sites to buy new or
used palm gear?
Thanks to anyone who replies!
Jeff

---

Please have a look at my site, http://lars_lindberg.tripod.com/palm
You will find a list of the applications that I currently use ordered in a
best-first order.

You will also find that they all are linked for more information and
downloading at http://www.palmgear.com the IMHO by far best place for
downloading/buying Palm software.

/Lars

Jeff,

If you make a regular entre (imagine the accent mark) this will be a
dynamite group.

Please do.

I would never have bought a 2 MB device, so, for me, the 8 MB device
brought me into the market.  But, the subject of memory efficiency is
not lost.  Memory (aka memory-bloat) has been a subject for quite
awhile. Once folks have bought into 8 MB devices, the basis for this
issue changes dramatically.


--- In woyp@egroups.com, Ka Wai TAM <kwtam@s...> wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Jul 2000 jeffkmyers@e... wrote:
>
> > I'm a teacher and writer and I'm about to get a palm iiie.
>
> Since memory on palmtop computers is at a premium, programs for the
Palm tend
> to be compact and efficient.  Having used a PalmPilot Pro (with 1
Mb of
> memory) for a year, I still ruthlessly weed out "program bloat"
despite having
> switched to the TRGpro with virtually infinite memory.  (As of this
writing, I
> have 56Mb on my TRGpro.)  You see, the infinite memory is for
infinite data,
> such as dictionaries and other reference texts; so any program that
presumes
> to occupy memory real estate must justify its existence with
commensurate
> value.  Programs do not sit on my Palm device merely because there
is
> available space.
>
> With that in mind, here are my list of programs that belong on
every Palm.
>
> (Every Palm comes with some built-in software, and for now let's
assume that
> we leave that alone.)
>
> Hackmaster
>  Completely useless by itself, this essential shareware
program allows
> you to install special programs called "hacks" that modify and
greatly enhance
> the behaviour of the Palm.  Using a Palm without Hackmaster is like
running
> your finances using only coins.
>  (A proposed replacement for Hackmaster, called EVPlugBase,
has not
> been as popular, and only a few "hacks" have been written to take
advantage of
> its features.  We will stick with Hackmaster for now.)
>
> EVEdit
>  This hack, which requires Hackmaster, brings to the Palm a
plethora of
> text editing features which many feel should have been part of the
built-in
> features in the first place.  Text selection by double- and triple-
tapping,
> drag-and-drop text moving, and multiple undo levels are but a few
of its
> features.  It expands the clipboard from one to ten entries (paste
any of the
> last 10 items you cut or copied) and removes the built-in 1k (or
was it
> 2k?) maximum that you can store with the built-in Cut&Paste
functions.  It can
> also display your graffiti as you write, greatly easing the process
of
> learning to write on the Palm.
>
> FindHack
>  Palm's built-in Find feature allows you to locate text you
might have
> idly scribbled and forgotten, but its built-in limitation of
searching only
> the beginnings of words is removed by this hack, which also allows
the use of
> wildcards.  "Who was that guy I met last year who runs his own mail
order
> business?" you may need to know one day. "I'm sure the phone number
was
> 1-800-BUY-HERE but I can't find it in my Palm AddressBook!"  The
built-in Find
> won't locate "BUY-HERE" (because  it's not at the beginning of the
string),
> but look for "buy?here" with FindHack and you can find the
> "1.888.BUY.HERE" you wrote last year in a year-old MemoPad entry
with contact
> information for an old acquaintance.
>
> a DOC file reader
>  A variety of programs read this de facto standard format for
> compressed text on the Palm, not to be confused with the .doc
extension given
> to bulky Microsoft Word files.  AportisDOC, the original program,
now competes
> with TealDoc, ZDoc and a variety of other viewers, many of which
also allow
> editing of the files.  You can grab text off the Web for viewing on
the Palm,
> compressing it by up to 40%.
>  An alternative format which many consider superior is iSilo,
which
> compresses by some 60%.  This format can understand the HTML format
used in
> Web pages, and its can contain images.  Even better, the iSilo
reader can also
> read DOC files.  Two disadvantages: at the time of writing, you can
only read
> but not edit the documents (I hear that an editor may be coming
soon), and the
> reader software is rather bulky at 90k, compared to 26k for QED
(which views
> and edits DOC files).
>  iSilo is Strongly Recommended but not essential, but some
sort of DOC
> reader is.
>
> That's all!  There are many other programs that are Strongly
Recommended, but
> not essential.  There is, however, one other thing that's essential:
>
> Visit <http://www.palmgear.com/software/index.cfm>.  This is the
software site
> for PalmGearHQ.  Why is it essential?  Because otherwise you'll
never realize
> the full potential of your Palm.  You'll see uses for your Palm
that you never
> imagined.  Otherwise it would be like using a Swiss Army knife for
picking
> your teeth, or using Celine Dion's CD as a bookmark.
>
> I have no particular desire to sell PalmGearHQ over other software
sites.  You
> should go look at other sites, too, but PalmGear's appears to be
the most
> complete, and also shows you screenshots, other users' reviews, and
the amount
> of memory it takes up on your Palm.
>
> Hope that helps!
>
>
> > My needs are pretty basic. The iiie comes with a whopping
> > 2MB of RAM
>
> Oh, don't worry.  Your needs will change --_if_ you learn how to
take
> advantage of your Palm.  You'd be surprised how much you can do
with 2MB of
> RAM.
>
> Ka Wai TAM   Shad 86W : EngSci 9T1 : PEng '93 : MEng '94 : MD '98
>              ~{L7<RN0~}  "Ni parolu per Esperanto!"
>              http://www.shelluser.net/~kwtam
>              Use kw.tam@u... even if this email came from elsewhere.

On Sat, 22 Jul 2000 jeffkmyers@... wrote:

> I'm a teacher and writer and I'm about to get a palm iiie.

Since memory on palmtop computers is at a premium, programs for the Palm tend
to be compact and efficient.  Having used a PalmPilot Pro (with 1 Mb of
memory) for a year, I still ruthlessly weed out "program bloat" despite having
switched to the TRGpro with virtually infinite memory.  (As of this writing, I
have 56Mb on my TRGpro.)  You see, the infinite memory is for infinite data,
such as dictionaries and other reference texts; so any program that presumes
to occupy memory real estate must justify its existence with commensurate
value.  Programs do not sit on my Palm device merely because there is
available space.

With that in mind, here are my list of programs that belong on every Palm.

(Every Palm comes with some built-in software, and for now let's assume that
we leave that alone.)

Hackmaster
	 Completely useless by itself, this essential shareware program allows
you to install special programs called "hacks" that modify and greatly enhance
the behaviour of the Palm.  Using a Palm without Hackmaster is like running
your finances using only coins.
	 (A proposed replacement for Hackmaster, called EVPlugBase, has not
been as popular, and only a few "hacks" have been written to take advantage of
its features.  We will stick with Hackmaster for now.)

EVEdit
	 This hack, which requires Hackmaster, brings to the Palm a plethora of
text editing features which many feel should have been part of the built-in
features in the first place.  Text selection by double- and triple-tapping,
drag-and-drop text moving, and multiple undo levels are but a few of its
features.  It expands the clipboard from one to ten entries (paste any of the
last 10 items you cut or copied) and removes the built-in 1k (or was it
2k?) maximum that you can store with the built-in Cut&Paste functions.  It can
also display your graffiti as you write, greatly easing the process of
learning to write on the Palm.

FindHack
	 Palm's built-in Find feature allows you to locate text you might have
idly scribbled and forgotten, but its built-in limitation of searching only
the beginnings of words is removed by this hack, which also allows the use of
wildcards.  "Who was that guy I met last year who runs his own mail order
business?" you may need to know one day. "I'm sure the phone number was
1-800-BUY-HERE but I can't find it in my Palm AddressBook!"  The built-in Find
won't locate "BUY-HERE" (because  it's not at the beginning of the string),
but look for "buy?here" with FindHack and you can find the
"1.888.BUY.HERE" you wrote last year in a year-old MemoPad entry with contact
information for an old acquaintance.

a DOC file reader
	 A variety of programs read this de facto standard format for
compressed text on the Palm, not to be confused with the .doc extension given
to bulky Microsoft Word files.  AportisDOC, the original program, now competes
with TealDoc, ZDoc and a variety of other viewers, many of which also allow
editing of the files.  You can grab text off the Web for viewing on the Palm,
compressing it by up to 40%.
	 An alternative format which many consider superior is iSilo, which
compresses by some 60%.  This format can understand the HTML format used in
Web pages, and its can contain images.  Even better, the iSilo reader can also
read DOC files.  Two disadvantages: at the time of writing, you can only read
but not edit the documents (I hear that an editor may be coming soon), and the
reader software is rather bulky at 90k, compared to 26k for QED (which views
and edits DOC files).
	 iSilo is Strongly Recommended but not essential, but some sort of DOC
reader is.

That's all!  There are many other programs that are Strongly Recommended, but
not essential.  There is, however, one other thing that's essential:

Visit <http://www.palmgear.com/software/index.cfm>.  This is the software site
for PalmGearHQ.  Why is it essential?  Because otherwise you'll never realize
the full potential of your Palm.  You'll see uses for your Palm that you never
imagined.  Otherwise it would be like using a Swiss Army knife for picking
your teeth, or using Celine Dion's CD as a bookmark.

I have no particular desire to sell PalmGearHQ over other software sites.  You
should go look at other sites, too, but PalmGear's appears to be the most
complete, and also shows you screenshots, other users' reviews, and the amount
of memory it takes up on your Palm.

Hope that helps!


> My needs are pretty basic. The iiie comes with a whopping
> 2MB of RAM

Oh, don't worry.  Your needs will change --_if_ you learn how to take
advantage of your Palm.  You'd be surprised how much you can do with 2MB of
RAM.

Ka Wai TAM   Shad 86W : EngSci 9T1 : PEng '93 : MEng '94 : MD '98
              ~{L7<RN0~}  "Ni parolu per Esperanto!"
              http://www.shelluser.net/~kwtam
              Use kw.tam@... even if this email came from elsewhere.

Folding keyboard: Very nice - but you absolutely cannot use it unless you have
it on a tabletop or a large book; if you would use it away from solid support,
the nonfolding keyboard is better.  With that caveat, let me say that my wife
and I share one and it is _very_ popular with us.

Other lagniappes:

FITALY STAMP <http://www.twsolutions.com/fitalystamp/fitalystampdesign.htm>

is much nicer for me than Silkyboard - and you will need _some_ protection for
the Graffitti area.  If you don;t get this, buy a roll of 3M #701 scotch
tape(TM)
and cover it with the tape, then use Rain-X on the screen.

QED
<http://visionary2000.com/qed/> allows you to store compressed documents
processed
into the special Palm Doc format, and uses compression to fit more into your
2MB.

MakeDoc <http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Mark_Pierce/> converts TXT
and DOC on Windows PCs to the proprietary PalmDoc format, and does compression
so you can store much more on your Palm.  IF you use Mac, see
<http://www.aportis.com/resources/AportisDoc/makedocutilities.html>
for Mac PalmDoc converters.

If you like reading books on your Palm you can download them from the USENET
newsgroup alt.binaries.e-book which I read with the freeware PC news reader,
Forte's Free Agent <http://www.forteinc.com/agent/freagent.htm>, much less
clumsy
than the newsreaders in M$IE and Netscape.

QED also is an editor, and allows you to transcend the 4KB limit of memo files.
  Palm's Memo applet just plain stops when your file hits the wall, something
I find _very_ frustrating.

Do _not_, BTW, try to use the shareware QED to _edit_ or _create_ on your Palm
until you have paid for it and registered it, as it will lose files until you
do.

LAUNCHER III
<http://www.benc.hr/lnchiii.htm>
is much nicer than the menuing native to the PalmOS.

HACKS
Go to www.tucows.com, select PalmOS and search on HACK - then download
Hackmaster,
FontHack 123 and whatever else you like.  FontHack123 is useful for when you
need different fonts and very reasonable in size.

Also, <http://www.deskfree.com/ClipHack.html> allows you transcend the very
small limit of about 900 bytes on a copy- or cut- and-paste operation.

AVANTGO
<http://avantgo.com/frontdoor/index.html>
will fill your Palm with whatever you let it.  You tell it how much news you
want, and it will refill your Palm every time you synch, for free.  Times of
London, Washington Post, Toronto Globe and Mail, NT Times, Wired, hundreds of
other media sources.  See the USENET newsgroup alt.soft-sys.avantgo for details.
  It's awesome.

REVIEWS
<www.PalmGuru.com> has superb reviews of other stuff.

> I'm a teacher and writer and I'm about to get a palm IIIe. (I know I
> should have got a more advanced model, but it's free, and I've always
> wanted to get a palm, especially after I invested in 3com and Palm!)
> I don't use fancy memory-eating software programs,
> games, etc. My needs are pretty basic. The iiie comes with a whopping
> 2MB of RAM, and the HotSync cradle. Can anyone recommend iiie up-
> grades, add-ons, freeware, etc. for the absolute neophyte? What's
> the absolute first thing I should get for my new palm, other than a
> case and a collapsible keyboard? Do I need Intellisync 3.6 (for
> $55)? Any hints for using with OutLook Express and MicroSoft Word
> would be great. Also, any recommendations for sites to buy new or
> used palm gear?
> Thanks to anyone who replies!
> Jeff

Last, but not least, here's a few bookmarks for Palm sites:

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<div ADD_DATE="954356688"><font size=+0><a href="http://palmcom.tripod.com/">All

Palm</a></font></div>

<dt>
<a href="http://www.remarq.com/threads.asp?g=alt%2Ebinaries%2Ee%2Dbook&nav=LAST"
ADD_DATE="957390098" LAST_VISIT="957390086"
LAST_MODIFIED="957390086">alt.binaries.e-book</a></dt>


<br><a href="http://www.AnywhereYouGo.com/ayg/ayg/Index.po" ADD_DATE="954797437"
LAST_VISIT="954797416" LAST_MODIFIED="954797416">AnywhereYouGo.com</a>
<br><a href="http://avantgo.com/setup/index.html?referrer=aw1"
ADD_DATE="954356980"
LAST_VISIT="956792766" LAST_MODIFIED="954356971">AvantGo</a>
<h3 ADD_DATE="954356688">
<font size=+0>B</font></h3>
<a href="http://www.beyond.com/shareware/palm_shareware.htm?"
ADD_DATE="954448608"
LAST_VISIT="954448597" LAST_MODIFIED="954448597">Beyond.com
Palm Shareware</a>
<br><a href="http://www.brighthand.com/" ADD_DATE="954375605"
LAST_VISIT="954375600"
LAST_MODIFIED="954375600">BrightHand</a>
<br><a href="http://www.bystander.net/pilot/latest/" ADD_DATE="954375293"
LAST_VISIT="954375284"
LAST_MODIFIED="954375284">Bystander.Net
- Internet Communications - Latest</a>
<h3 ADD_DATE="954356688">
<font size=+0>C</font></h3>
<a href="http://www.palmgear.com/faq/" ADD_DATE="954359992"
LAST_VISIT="955150899"
LAST_MODIFIED="954359982">Calvin's
PGHQ FAQ</a>
<br><a
href="http://proxy-mail.mailcity.lycos.com/bin/redirector.cgi?http://www.directc\
ase.com"
ADD_DATE="957218383" LAST_VISIT="957218368" LAST_MODIFIED="957218368">Cases

for PDAs..</a>
<br><a href="http://www.bnl.com/shorts/" ADD_DATE="954879226"
LAST_VISIT="954879168"
LAST_MODIFIED="954879168">Classic
Short Stories from BNL</a>
<br><a href="http://pyrite.linuxave.net/doc/readers.html" ADD_DATE="957218561"
LAST_VISIT="957218553" LAST_MODIFIED="957218553">CQ
Codeworks: Doc Readers</a>
<br><a href="http://www.creationzone.demon.co.uk/index.htm" ADD_DATE="954371684"
LAST_VISIT="954434527" LAST_MODIFIED="954371676">Creationzone
Replacement Palm Alarms</a>
<h3 ADD_DATE="954356688">
<font size=+0>D-E</font></h3>
<a href="http://www.dataviz.com/" ADD_DATE="954356916" LAST_VISIT="954356903"
LAST_MODIFIED="954356903">DataViz:
File Conversion and Palm Organizer Synchronization Solutions</a>
<br><a href="http://member.nifty.ne.jp/yamakado/da/index.htm"
ADD_DATE="957372052"
LAST_VISIT="957391654" LAST_MODIFIED="957372046">Desk
Accessory Hacks for PalmOS</a>
<div ADD_DATE="954356688"><font size=+0><a
href="http://www.palmlife.com/egg.html">Easter

Eggs from PalmLife</a></font></div>

<br><a href="http://www.thepalmreader.com/" ADD_DATE="954359538"
LAST_VISIT="956087046"
LAST_MODIFIED="954359525">Mike
Elgan's Palm Reader!</a>
<br><a href="http://barpoint.epinions.com/cmhd_Handhelds-Palm_Pilot"
ADD_DATE="954435628"
LAST_VISIT="954436790" LAST_MODIFIED="954435621">Epinions.com
- Palm OS and Handspring</a>
<br><a href="http://www.eurocool.com/" ADD_DATE="954449350"
LAST_VISIT="954449342"
LAST_MODIFIED="954449342">Eurocool
Palm</a>
<h3 ADD_DATE="954356688">
<font size=+0>F</font></h3>

<dt>
<a href="http://personal.nbnet.nb.ca/bcs/pfaq/" ADD_DATE="954443351"
LAST_VISIT="954445659"
LAST_MODIFIED="954443346">FAQ
- Ben's Palm Rapid</a></dt>

<br><a href="http://zerodefect.net/danreed/palmemailfaq.txt"
ADD_DATE="954445182"
LAST_VISIT="954445174" LAST_MODIFIED="954445174">FAQ
- Dan's Palm</a>
<div ADD_DATE="954356688"><font size=+0><a
href="http://www.memoware.com/mw-helpf.htm">File

Format Help Page at Memoware</a></font></div>
<a href="http://www.flashplug.de/" ADD_DATE="954375785" LAST_VISIT="954434471"
LAST_MODIFIED="954375754">Flash
Plug storage</a>
<div ADD_DATE="954356688"><font size=+0><a
href="http://www.joshforman.com/">Josh

Foreman's Palm Site</a></font></div>

<br><a href="http://www.fredlet.com/palm/pilot.htm" ADD_DATE="956000440"
LAST_VISIT="956000423"
LAST_MODIFIED="956000423">Fredlet's
Pilot page</a>
<br><a href="http://www.free-epress.com/" ADD_DATE="957383126"
LAST_VISIT="957382764"
LAST_MODIFIED="957382764">Free-ePress.com:
Because you deserve to know what you're paying for.</a>
<h3 ADD_DATE="954356688">
<font size=+0>G-H</font></h3>

<dt ADD_DATE="954356688">
<a href="http://the-gadgeteer.com/palmos.html" ADD_DATE="954532819"
LAST_VISIT="956790381"
LAST_MODIFIED="954532809">Gadgeteer:
Palm OS</a></dt>

<div ADD_DATE="954356688"><font size=+0><a
href="http://www.geek.com/pdageek/pdamain.htm">Geek.com's

PDAGeek</a></font></div>
<a href="http://www.enteract.com/~crawford/grafaid.html" ADD_DATE="954535154"
LAST_VISIT="954535143" LAST_MODIFIED="954535143">Graffiti
Aid, Grafaid Palm Pilot Utility</a>
<div ADD_DATE="954356688"><a href="http://www.handango.com/"
ADD_DATE="954450060"
LAST_VISIT="956000975" LAST_MODIFIED="954450048">Handango!
- The largest handheld marketplace on the Internet</a>
<br><a href="http://members.tripod.com/~hokamoto/palm.html" ADD_DATE="954447693"
LAST_VISIT="956792953" LAST_MODIFIED="954447658">Hokamato's
Palm! Palm! Palm!</a></div>

<h3 ADD_DATE="954356688">
<font size=+0>I-L</font></h3>

<dt>
<a href="http://www.ipl.org/" ADD_DATE="957389968" LAST_VISIT="957389950"
LAST_MODIFIED="957389950">Internet

Public Library</a></dt>

<dt>
<a href="http://users.zipworld.com.au/~rmills/InfraredMain.htm"
ADD_DATE="954799005"
LAST_VISIT="954798986" LAST_MODIFIED="954798986">IR:
Using a Palm device and Mobile Phone via InfraRed</a></dt>

<dt>
<a href="http://www.palmix.itil.com/" ADD_DATE="954449792"
LAST_VISIT="954449737"
LAST_MODIFIED="954449737">ITIL
- Software for Palmtops &amp; Handhelds</a></dt>

<br><a href="http://djajic.tripod.com/palm/" ADD_DATE="956072175"
LAST_VISIT="956072164"
LAST_MODIFIED="956072164">Jack's
Palm Pilot archive - collection of the most useful programs for your
PalmPilot</a>

<br><a href="http://www.landware.com/products/pilotindex.html"
ADD_DATE="954436407"
LAST_VISIT="954436367" LAST_MODIFIED="954436367">LandWare's
Palm Computing Platform Catalog</a>
<h3 ADD_DATE="954356688">
<font size=+0>M-O</font></h3>
<a href="http://www.memoware.com/" ADD_DATE="955662193" LAST_VISIT="955662181"
LAST_MODIFIED="955662181">MemoWare
- The PDA Document Repository</a>
<br><a href="http://www.palmfilez.com/" ADD_DATE="956607206"
LAST_VISIT="956607161"
LAST_MODIFIED="956607161">Mitch's
Palm Pilot Filez Site</a>
<br><a href="http://www.mobshop.com/browse?category_id=3" ADD_DATE="954356701"
LAST_VISIT="954356617" LAST_MODIFIED="954356617">MobShop</a>
<br><a href="http://www.nearlymobile.com/" ADD_DATE="954377206"
LAST_VISIT="956607357"
LAST_MODIFIED="954377201">NearlyMobile
- The Only Resource for New Palm Users</a>
<br><a href="http://www.only4palm.com/" ADD_DATE="954979588"
LAST_VISIT="954979522"
LAST_MODIFIED="954979522">Only4Palm
Site</a>
<br>&nbsp;
<div ADD_DATE="954356688"><b>Palm*</b>
<p><a href="http://www.palmblvd.com/" ADD_DATE="954357591"
LAST_VISIT="956792755"
LAST_MODIFIED="954357582">Palm
Boulevard - The Complete Independent Palm Pilot Information Resource -
(Palm Pilot Shareware)</a>
<br><a href="palm.htm" ADD_DATE="957371558" LAST_VISIT="957371825"
LAST_MODIFIED="957371549">Palm

File</a>
<br><a href="http://www.palmgear.com/" ADD_DATE="954359169"
LAST_VISIT="956087845"
LAST_MODIFIED="954359158">PalmGear
H.Q.</a>
<br><a href="http://www.palmguru.com/" ADD_DATE="954370146"
LAST_VISIT="957285439"
LAST_MODIFIED="954369945">palmguru</a>
<br><a href="http://www.planetnz.com/palmheads/" ADD_DATE="957371350"
LAST_VISIT="957370841"
LAST_MODIFIED="957370841">PalmHeads</a>
<br><a href="http://www.calebruckner.com/palmit/index.cfm" ADD_DATE="954435674"
LAST_VISIT="954435668" LAST_MODIFIED="954435668">P
A L M I T</a>
<br><a href="http://www.palm.net/" ADD_DATE="954360720" LAST_VISIT="955986390"
LAST_MODIFIED="954360710">Palm.Net
Service</a>
<br><a href="http://www.palmorama.com/" ADD_DATE="954371105"
LAST_VISIT="954456391"
LAST_MODIFIED="954371096">palmorama</a>
<br><a href="http://home.kscable.com/cmm/pilot/hardware.html"
ADD_DATE="954359613"
LAST_VISIT="955494356" LAST_MODIFIED="954359600">palm
os world: hardware</a>
<br><a href="http://www.palmpilotfiles.com/">PalmPilot Files</a>
<br><a href="http://home.palmpilotarchives.com/" ADD_DATE="954356834"
LAST_VISIT="956792779"
LAST_MODIFIED="954356825">PalmPilot
Ware - Palmpilot / Palm OS Software - Homepage</a>
<br><a href="http://www.palmpower.com/" ADD_DATE="954375092"
LAST_VISIT="954375083"
LAST_MODIFIED="954375083">PalmPower
Magazine</a>
<br><a href="http://www.rsoft-home.de/psaver.html" ADD_DATE="957218782"
LAST_VISIT="957218744"
LAST_MODIFIED="957218744">PalmSaver
Backup</a>
<br><a href="http://www.palmstation.com/" ADD_DATE="954456027"
LAST_VISIT="954456017"
LAST_MODIFIED="954456017">PalmStation</a>
<br><a href="http://www.palmstock.com/Accessories/" ADD_DATE="954360091"
LAST_VISIT="956790441"
LAST_MODIFIED="954360069">Palmstock:
Accessories</a>
<br><a href="http://PalmTools.tripod.com/" ADD_DATE="956607680"
LAST_VISIT="956607672"
LAST_MODIFIED="956607672">Palm
Tools!</a>
<br><a href="http://www.webring.org/cgi-bin/webring?ring=pilot_text&id=71&list"
ADD_DATE="957383620" LAST_VISIT="957383610" LAST_MODIFIED="957383610">Palm
WebRing</a>
<div ADD_DATE="954356688">&nbsp;
<br><b>P</b><a href="http://www.ultraviolet.org/pilot.html"></a>
<p><a href="http://www.coslink.net/PalmaSrv/" ADD_DATE="954878984"
LAST_VISIT="954979247"
LAST_MODIFIED="954878977">PalmaServ:
Docs for Palms</a></div>
<a href="http://www.pawgo.com/" ADD_DATE="954461433" LAST_VISIT="954461409"
LAST_MODIFIED="954461409">Pawgo.com:
mobile computing resource, portal and directory</a>
<br><a href="http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=index"
ADD_DATE="954441355"
LAST_VISIT="954441348" LAST_MODIFIED="954441348">PayPal</a>
<br><a href="http://reviews.pdalive.com/" ADD_DATE="956854192"
LAST_VISIT="956854163"
LAST_MODIFIED="956854163">PDAlive
Reviews</a>
<br><a href="http://www.pdabuzz.com/" ADD_DATE="957371475"
LAST_VISIT="957371465"
LAST_MODIFIED="957371465">PDABuzz</a>
<br><a href="http://www.pdagroove.com/pilot.htm" ADD_DATE="954538691"
LAST_VISIT="954538685"
LAST_MODIFIED="954538685">PDA
Groove: Palm Pilot Info</a>
<br><a href="http://www.palmlife.com/" ADD_DATE="956000903"
LAST_VISIT="956000871"
LAST_MODIFIED="956000871">PDA
Life</a>
<br><a href="http://www.peanutpress.com/home.cgi/06491661-81272-84149"
ADD_DATE="954798362"
LAST_VISIT="954798352" LAST_MODIFIED="954798352">peanutpress.com</a>
<br><a href="http://wwwipd.ira.uka.de/~witte/pilot/backup/" ADD_DATE="954448486"
LAST_VISIT="954448458" LAST_MODIFIED="954448458">PenguinBackup
--- The PalmPilot single-floppy backup system</a>
<br><a href="http://www.ultraviolet.org/pilot.html">Pilot Mailing List</a>
<br><a href="http://pdapoint.hypermart.net/index.html" ADD_DATE="954448590"
LAST_VISIT="954448572" LAST_MODIFIED="954448572">PIMpoint
- News, tips, discussion, conduits, applications, more for Palms.</a>
<br><a
href="http://www.planetit.com/techcenters/indexes/mobile_computing/pdas_&_handhe\
ld_pcs"
ADD_DATE="954363649" LAST_VISIT="954363640" LAST_MODIFIED="954363640">Planet

IT: Mobile Computing PDAs &amp; Handheld PCs Index</a>
<br><a href="http://zerodefect.net/danreed/plinkit/" ADD_DATE="954799641"
LAST_VISIT="954799625"
LAST_MODIFIED="954799625">PliNkIT!</a>
<br><a href="http://www.pocketmail.com/products/backflip/" ADD_DATE="954523326"
LAST_VISIT="954523311" LAST_MODIFIED="954523311">PocketMail</a>
<br><a href="http://www.purepalm.com/" ADD_DATE="954872246"
LAST_VISIT="954889205"
LAST_MODIFIED="954872233">PurePalm.com</a></div>

<h3 ADD_DATE="954356688">
<font size=+0>Q-R</font></h3>
<a href="http://www.qvadis.com/" ADD_DATE="954876238" LAST_VISIT="954872629"
LAST_MODIFIED="954872629">Qvadis
Corp</a>
<br><a href="http://www.revolvedesign.com/producthome.html" ADD_DATE="954377570"
LAST_VISIT="954377545" LAST_MODIFIED="954377545">Revolve
Design Home Page</a>
<br><a href="http://www.rhinoskin.com/" ADD_DATE="954368750"
LAST_VISIT="954368735"
LAST_MODIFIED="954368735">RhinoSkin
- Protect Your Handheld Investment</a>
<br><a href="http://www.rhodiana.com/products/palm/palm.html"
ADD_DATE="954372797"
LAST_VISIT="954372785" LAST_MODIFIED="954372785">Rhodania
cases</a>
<h3 ADD_DATE="954356688">
<font size=+0>S</font></h3>
<a href="http://www.palmpilotfiles.com/" ADD_DATE="956000501"
LAST_VISIT="956000490"
LAST_MODIFIED="956000490">SasEz!
Palm Pilot Files - Freeware, Shareware, EBooks, Information and more</a>
<br><a href="http://pilot.screwdriver.net/" ADD_DATE="955662005"
LAST_VISIT="955662013"
LAST_MODIFIED="955661919">screwdriver.net</a>
<div ADD_DATE="954356688"><font size=+0><a
href="http://www.searchpalm.com">SearchPalm</a></font></div>


<dt>
<a href="http://www.spug.org/" ADD_DATE="956605569" LAST_VISIT="956605557"
LAST_MODIFIED="956605557">Singapore

Palm Users' Group!</a></dt>

<dt>
<a
href="http://proxy-mail.mailcity.lycos.com/bin/redirector.cgi?http://www.smaller\
.com/"
ADD_DATE="957218216" LAST_VISIT="957218198"
LAST_MODIFIED="957218198">smaller.com

- a big place for small devices</a></dt>

<dt>
<a href="http://www.smartware.de/Pilot/pbackup.htm" ADD_DATE="957218734"
LAST_VISIT="957218718"
LAST_MODIFIED="957218718">Smartware's
Pilot Backup</a></dt>

<br><a href="http://stylusplus.com/opav.html" ADD_DATE="954456703"
LAST_VISIT="954456689"
LAST_MODIFIED="954456689">STYLUS+
4-Way</a>
<br><a href="http://www.synsolutions.com/cases/index.html" ADD_DATE="954360545"
LAST_VISIT="954459214" LAST_MODIFIED="954360538">Synergy
Solutions: FlipCase</a>
<h3 ADD_DATE="954356688">
<font size=+0>T-V</font></h3>
<a href="http://www.tapmagazine.com/" ADD_DATE="954370377"
LAST_VISIT="955043388"
LAST_MODIFIED="954370368">Tap
Magazine</a>
<div ADD_DATE="954356688"><font size=+0><a
href="http://home1.pacific.net.sg/~kokmun/palmpilot.htm">TKM

Palm Software</a></font></div>

<br><a href="http://siliconvalley.pda.tucows.com/palm/index.html"
ADD_DATE="954534999"
LAST_VISIT="954537128" LAST_MODIFIED="954534983">TUCOWS.COM
- Palm</a>
<br><a
href="http://www.vaja.com.ar/vaja/catalogo.nsf/htmlmedia/frameset_palm.html"
ADD_DATE="954436054" LAST_VISIT="954460460" LAST_MODIFIED="954436016">Vaja
- Home Page</a>
<br><a href="http://www.virsa.com/" ADD_DATE="957383185" LAST_VISIT="957382783"
LAST_MODIFIED="957382783">Virsa
Palm-Cell cables</a>
<h3 ADD_DATE="954356688">
<font size=+0>W</font></h3>
<a href="http://www.sanface.com/webpdfviewer.html" ADD_DATE="954369761"
LAST_VISIT="954370966"
LAST_MODIFIED="954369747">Web
PDF Viewer</a>
<br><a href="http://www.webring.org/cgi-bin/webring?list&ring=geoff"
ADD_DATE="954445673"
LAST_VISIT="956000821" LAST_MODIFIED="954445665">Web
Ring Home, Palm</a>
<br><a href="http://www.wiredguy.com/directory/html/gp2.html"
ADD_DATE="954791664"
LAST_VISIT="954791655" LAST_MODIFIED="954791655">WiredGuy.com
- Resource for Everything Wired</a>
<br><a href="http://www.jeffkirvin.com/writingonyourpalm/" ADD_DATE="957371341"
LAST_VISIT="957383570" LAST_MODIFIED="957371134">Writing
On Your Palm</a>
<br>&nbsp;
<div ADD_DATE="954356688"><b>X-Z</b>
<p><a href="http://www.webconx.com/palm/x10.htm" ADD_DATE="954798211"
LAST_VISIT="954798140"
LAST_MODIFIED="954798140">x10
palm</a></div>
<a href="http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/thepalmguru" ADD_DATE="955999400"
LAST_VISIT="955998774"
LAST_MODIFIED="955998774">Yahoo!
Clubs thepalmguru</a>
<br><a href="http://mobile.yahoo.com/wireless/home" ADD_DATE="954445898"
LAST_VISIT="954445885"
LAST_MODIFIED="954445885">Yahoo!
Mobile</a>
<dt>
<a href="http://www.zdnet.com/downloads/pilotsoftware/" ADD_DATE="954889365"
LAST_VISIT="956600356" LAST_MODIFIED="954889354">ZDNet's
Palm Downloads</a></dt>

</dl>
</dl>

</body>
</html>

The following sites should keep you busy for awhile:

www.palmgear.com
www.handango.com
www.memoware.com


--- In woyp@egroups.com, jeffkmyers@e... wrote:
> I'm a teacher and writer and I'm about to get a palm iiie. (I know
I
> should have got a more advanced model, but it's free, and I've
always
> wanted to get a palm, especially after I invested in 3com and
palm!)
> I don't use fancy memory-eating software programs,
> games, etc. My needs are pretty basic. The iiie comes with a
whopping
> 2MB of RAM, and the HotSync cradle. Can anyone recommend iiie up-
> grades, add-ons, freeware, etc. for the absolute neophyte? What's
> the absolute first thing I should get for my new palm, other than a
> case and a collapsible keyboard? Do I need Intellisync 3.6 (for
> $55)? Any hints for using with OutLook Express and MicroSoft Word
> would be great. Also, any recommendations for sites to buy new or
> used palm gear?
> Thanks to anyone who replies!
> Jeff

If someone doesn't beat me to it, I will post some info on software
sites.  From there, you can download freeware and shareware (tyr
before you buy) so you can determine what makes sense to.

With what does a Palm IIIe come (my Visor came with a nice suite of
loaded apps)?  You may need little more than that (since your recent
Palm use was zero).

If you are going to write on your palm, you will need a "doc"-format
editor (not to be confused with Microsoft Word .doc) and a way to get
documents to/from computer and to/from printer.

I assume you have read through Writing on Your Palm found at
www.jeffkirvin.com.

If your HotSync is working, you need not buy anything more until your
needs and savvy tell you exactly what feature you are missing.


--- In woyp@egroups.com, jeffkmyers@e... wrote:
> I'm a teacher and writer and I'm about to get a palm iiie. (I know
I
> should have got a more advanced model, but it's free, and I've
always
> wanted to get a palm, especially after I invested in 3com and
palm!)
> I don't use fancy memory-eating software programs,
> games, etc. My needs are pretty basic. The iiie comes with a
whopping
> 2MB of RAM, and the HotSync cradle. Can anyone recommend iiie up-
> grades, add-ons, freeware, etc. for the absolute neophyte? What's
> the absolute first thing I should get for my new palm, other than a
> case and a collapsible keyboard? Do I need Intellisync 3.6 (for
> $55)? Any hints for using with OutLook Express and MicroSoft Word
> would be great. Also, any recommendations for sites to buy new or
> used palm gear?
> Thanks to anyone who replies!
> Jeff

I'm a teacher and writer and I'm about to get a palm iiie. (I know I
should have got a more advanced model, but it's free, and I've always
wanted to get a palm, especially after I invested in 3com and palm!)
I don't use fancy memory-eating software programs,
games, etc. My needs are pretty basic. The iiie comes with a whopping
2MB of RAM, and the HotSync cradle. Can anyone recommend iiie up-
grades, add-ons, freeware, etc. for the absolute neophyte? What's
the absolute first thing I should get for my new palm, other than a
case and a collapsible keyboard? Do I need Intellisync 3.6 (for
$55)? Any hints for using with OutLook Express and MicroSoft Word
would be great. Also, any recommendations for sites to buy new or
used palm gear?
Thanks to anyone who replies!
Jeff

Ditto.

After giving Franklin Covey some of my money, I came to realize they
have great, lofty, time/life theories, but their software is dated
and has too many short comings to fully support their teachings.
Then I read Jeff's article.  Now, in my own way, I am doing off my
Visor what I had been doing off my PC using a planner book and Ascend
97.  If Franklin Covey was smart, they should consider stop trying to
be a first class software shop and, instead, teach people their
planning methods with off-the-shelf software.  And of course, F/C
paper supplies.

But they are not interested right now.  And that creates an
opportunity.

Jeff has already written about his own methods.  The next step might
be examinations of the methods of others, case studies, etc.

But yes, a book!



--- In woyp@egroups.com, "Mike Barker" <mjbarker@d...> wrote:
> Jeff,
>
>  I have been meaning to write to you for some time now. After
reading the
> following review of Arranger at
http://www.spug.org/reviews/rarranger.htm  I
> realized that the time is now. For most of my net life I have been
a lurker
> but I feel that I have to speak up. As a result of some Christmas
present
> mixups I ended up thinking about a PDA. When I started to research
the
> various options available I came upon your site, what a gold mine.
To make a
> long story short I ended up buying a Visor. But it didn't end
there, I am
> still trying to fit the Visor into my life rather than the other
way around.
> You have helped greatly, but having different lifestyles, your
notion of PDA
> use is different from mine. While DB4 is bulky for a PDA I love the
daily
> journal capability which allows me to keep track of the things that
I do
> each day and it syncs beautify with Outlook.
>
> Enough of the preamble. I want you to know that as a writer your
real $$$
> calling is in the area of "Zen of Palm". You have a book within you
that
> would be a real hit within the PDA market and that, as we all know,
is
> growing rapidly. When I research an item I do it throughly and your
name
> comes up time and time again. You MUST strike now.
>
> Having mentioned the PDA area I must add the following, your views
on
> electronic publishing have provoked some interesting discussions. I
am an
> elementary school teacher-librarian/computer resource person and
have the
> great fortune to be working with a young teacher who is about to be
> published by Scholastic. I pass on all your weekly articles to him
and he in
> turn uses these articles in his various groups.
>
> You need to know that in the areas of both PDA and Electronic
Publishing you
> have a very significant following.
>
> How do your capitalize on them and still maintain your Zen is the
question??
>
> I debated on posting this to you personally or to the newsgroup. I
decided
> to do it to the group in the hope that you might get some real
encouragement
> to persue what you have going for you.
>
> Mike...

--- kwtam@... wrote:

[Explanation of trying to get the TomeRaider version of WordNet to work
on a TRGpro snipped...]

> And therefore, kind sir, before I actually write to TomeRaider and
> ask if they could pretty please split the big WordNet dictionary into
> multiple smaller files that AutoCF can handle, tell me this:
>
> Your 16Mb Visor.  Is it really 16Mb, or just 8Mb + 8Mb?  Can you fit
> in a 8.3Mb file?

No, the Visor with 8MB Springboard is 8+8. Data cannot span between the
card and system RAM. This reportedly won't be an issue when Innogear
releases the MiniJam, which is supposed to make the entire contents of
an MMC card visible to PalmOS (probably through much the same mechanism
as AutoCF on a TRGpro). I'm not entirely sure you're right about how
AutoCF works, however. I've read accounts from people running the
entire Internet Movie Database (all 15+MB of it) in TomeRaider on a
TRGpro. That leads me to believe that TRG doesn't actually copy the
entire database into RAM. More likely they create a RAM pointer to the
file on the CF card (I'm just guessing here, but I'm a programmer and
that's what I'd do). Since you haven't actually upgraded your TRGpro to
PalmOS 3.5.1, I'd recommend you try that first and see if it works. If
people really are accessing IMDB, you shouldn't have a problem with a
dictionary.

> And... you're a writer.  What dictionary do *you* use?

I used Noah for a while (using the 5MB+ compressed Wordnet database),
but I eventually got rid of it. All I'm using right now is WordSleuth,
a very good and comprehensive thesaurus. I've always prefered a
thesaurus over a dictionary anyway. I'm also interested in the
Webster's Springboard Landware will be releasing soon. Check out
http://www.landware.com/pocketwebster/index.html for details.

JK

=====
Jeff Kirvin
Writing On Your Palm
http://www.jeffkirvin.com/writingonyourpalm/

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Mr. Kirvin:

Thank you for your timely article The Upgrade Blues (00-07-17).  The
8MB memory barrier has been a sore point for me lately.  In your
article, you recommend the TRGpro.  Well, I am _using_ a TRGpro with
a 48Meg CF card.

Let me explain.

My father will get a Palm(-OS device, probably a TRGpro like me) *if*
there is a good dictionary for it.  We're not talking about some
downloaded wordlist or some List Of Some English Words With Meanings
v0.9, that people might be tempted to use simply because it's
available for the Palm.  We're looking for a *real* dictionary that
would rival, say, a good conventional paper-and-ink Webster's For
College Students.  (Actually, he's hoping to replace his two-volume
Shorter Oxford English Dictionary, but we've decided not to set our
sights too high.)

In this, the Palm device has long ceased to be a circus dancing bear,
which people flock to see not because the bear dances skilfully but
because it dances in the first place.  We want our bear to tango.

We have set our sights on the WordNet dictionary available from
TomeRaider --for free, no less (the data is free; the viewer program
is timelimit-ware).  Actually, there are a number of versions of the
WordNet dictionary, such as "Lots of Words Each With Single Meaning"
or "Medium Number of Words Each With Multiple Meanings".  We want the
"Maximum Number of Words With Multiple Meanings", so we downloaded it
for free and prepared it for Palm using TomeRaider's conversion
software.  (The original files are in TomeRaider for PC format.)

The dictionary is 8.3Meg in size.

Why would this be a problem for a TRGpro with 48Megs of CF memory?
Well, despite my delight in bragging to non-TRGpro users that *my*
Palm device has a total of 56Megs, the CF memory functions more like
a hard drive than usable RAM.  It's wonderful for backing up, but
anything that you want to use has to fit into the 8Megs of RAM.

Bleah.

You will know that the Motorola Dragonball that powers the TRGpro's
brain can only handle a maximum of 8Mb, so a straight 16Mb device is
not on the horizon no matter how much I plead and hope.  TRGpro's
AutoCF program (which I will download sometime soon) pulls in files
from CF and then wipes them after use, making it appear that a myriad
of smallish files reside in RAM when they're actually in CF.  But a
large file that's greater than the entire size of RAM is still out of
reach.

It's not fair, really.

First, TRGpro, I hear, is working on putting out a SDK allowing
programs to directly access CF memory.  I'm sure they're slaving away
around the clock to accomplish this just for desperate little users
like me.

Second, TomeRaider's compression ratio isn't all that good
--according to user reviews, it's not quite as good as Doc file
compression, which means that if they went to iSilo format, the
entire dictionary would fit quite nicely within the 8Mb limit.

Fat chance of that.  TomeRaider pulls in money from its reader
program, not all the dictionaries and thesauri and e-books they give
away for free.  (I'm not sure why.)

And therefore, kind sir, before I actually write to TomeRaider and
ask if they could pretty please split the big WordNet dictionary into
multiple smaller files that AutoCF can handle, tell me this:

Your 16Mb Visor.  Is it really 16Mb, or just 8Mb + 8Mb?  Can you fit
in a 8.3Mb file?

And... you're a writer.  What dictionary do *you* use?

I think I'll post this to the egroup; perhaps others have thoughts
about this as well.

KWTm
http://www.shelluser.net/~kwtam/

Jeff,

  I have been meaning to write to you for some time now. After reading the
following review of Arranger at http://www.spug.org/reviews/rarranger.htm  I
realized that the time is now. For most of my net life I have been a lurker
but I feel that I have to speak up. As a result of some Christmas present
mixups I ended up thinking about a PDA. When I started to research the
various options available I came upon your site, what a gold mine. To make a
long story short I ended up buying a Visor. But it didn't end there, I am
still trying to fit the Visor into my life rather than the other way around.
You have helped greatly, but having different lifestyles, your notion of PDA
use is different from mine. While DB4 is bulky for a PDA I love the daily
journal capability which allows me to keep track of the things that I do
each day and it syncs beautify with Outlook.

Enough of the preamble. I want you to know that as a writer your real $$$
calling is in the area of "Zen of Palm". You have a book within you that
would be a real hit within the PDA market and that, as we all know, is
growing rapidly. When I research an item I do it throughly and your name
comes up time and time again. You MUST strike now.

Having mentioned the PDA area I must add the following, your views on
electronic publishing have provoked some interesting discussions. I am an
elementary school teacher-librarian/computer resource person and have the
great fortune to be working with a young teacher who is about to be
published by Scholastic. I pass on all your weekly articles to him and he in
turn uses these articles in his various groups.

You need to know that in the areas of both PDA and Electronic Publishing you
have a very significant following.

How do your capitalize on them and still maintain your Zen is the question??

I debated on posting this to you personally or to the newsgroup. I decided
to do it to the group in the hope that you might get some real encouragement
to persue what you have going for you.

Mike...

Hi guys,

don't mean to break the discussion up here, but wanted to know if you've
seen any hacks which emulate the  '/J' to created a timed journal entry in
the datebook, but for use on a standard datebook app.

I've looked around, but to no avail. I find that I use this more & more to
record entries which can not only sync perfectly to a standard app (the
date book / calendar) which means I don't have to open a separate
journalling app, but that it can also give me some indication of what I was
doing when that dreaded timesheet comes around.


Cheers,

Russell

Russell Hay

MailPoint9, IBM Warwick, Birmingham Road
Campus Network Solutions and Management

Hi guys,

don't mean to break the discussion up here, but wanted to know if you've
seen any hacks which emulate the  '/J' to created a timed journal entry in
the datebook, but for use on a standard datebook app.

I've looked around, but to no avail. I find that I use this more & more to
record entries which can not only sync perfectly to a standard app (the
date book / calendar) which means I don't have to open a separate
journalling app, but that it can also give me some indication of what I was
doing when that dreaded timesheet comes around.


Cheers,

Russell

Russell Hay

MailPoint9, IBM Warwick, Birmingham Road
Campus Network Solutions and Management

--- whytcrow@... wrote:
> I want to learn more about pedit, but I don't ahve the documentation.
> Just tried to go to the website and it is Forbidden to me.  Hope it
> is just a funky little error and time will correct it, since I have
> no idea what most of these buttons do.

I've noticed Paul's site does that from time to time. Keep trying and
you'll eventually get it.

> I wiffle wafffle back and forth between pedit and TakeNote and
> SmartDoc as primary editor.  TakeNote does have the bonus of being
> already paid for, and pedit has a certain coolness factor (and is
> also wholey keyboard friendly).  I just don't know that SmartDoc has
> enough nifty features to make it a primary choice, with the
> additional cost.

SmartDoc is nice, but I've found it has a nasty habit of crashing with
a Fatal Exception when I'm editing large, book length documents. This
wouldn't be so bad if it didn't corrupt the final record of the Doc
file, deleting up to 4k of text...

> I have Doc on my Visor as well (the original, pre-Aportis
> version)...that still works fine, but with all the other things I
> have, i don't need it.  However, it assumes that all DOC files belong
> to it (enough so that they show up memory-wise with Doc in the Info
> screen), and thus, deleting Doc deletes all my Doc files.  Anyone
> know of any way to turn this off?  It isn't a huge file, so it can
> stay, and I do tend to read stuff in it now, just cuz I have it.  But

Get a utility like Z'Catalog or File Mover (which comes with any of the
Visor memory expansion boards) and delete the file directly. As long as
you don't delete it via the launcher, your data files should be safe.

JK


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--- Roger Kelley <rogerkelley@...> wrote:
> I'd like to echo Jeff Kirvin's sentiments about Action Names 4.51 vs.
>
> DateBk4.   Action Names seems admirably suited for my repeated
> appointment and reminders regarding persons or named events, easily
> arranged, while DBk requires configurational energy far beyond what I
>
> have to offer.    I am not a newbie by any means. I cut my teeth on
> Xy-Write in DOS days, and loved what I could do to customize. In any
> case ActionNames.

Action Names 4.52 is even better, in that it adds the ability for
filtering on priority as well as category. Now I can have undated todos
shown and still hide my priority 5 "master tasks".

JK

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I'd like to echo Jeff Kirvin's sentiments about Action Names 4.51 vs.
DateBk4.   Action Names seems admirably suited for my repeated
appointment and reminders regarding persons or named events, easily
arranged, while DBk requires configurational energy far beyond what I
have to offer.    I am not a newbie by any means. I cut my teeth on
Xy-Write in DOS days, and loved what I could do to customize. In any
case ActionNames.

Quibbles:  When I activate Hide for private records, Action Names
4.51 does not permit me to do a search beginning with the letters s
to
z, but works okay for a to r.