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Reply Message #24 of 160 |
We at mBricks have been using WURFL for more than 18 months now. We
are now seeing the need for additional j2me capabilities to meet our
product's requirements.

While our DB is based on WURFL, we currently do a lot of manual
maintenance. This work is highly needed to meet the challenges of
Device Fragmentation. - Nevertheless, this is both time consuming and
expensive work.

For this reason, we would like to see more happening at the level of
J2ME developers working together on this common issue. In order to
put our money where our mouth is, we will invest resources and share
the data collected through our effort so far, with the rest of the
community. We hope that this will bring others to follow suit and get
everyone to benefit.

There are two main parts behind our initiative:
- Defining (or better, refining) the list of J2ME capabilities
currently in WURFL
- Creating a Midlet which people can download on their phones, to
automatically collect J2ME data and save them in a centralised
repository, for insertion into WURFL.

Of course, the model will be the usual WURFL one: the data will be
open and available to everyone free of charge and intellectual
property claims.

The model we envision is one where the WURFL J2ME developer community
will do its part by downloading the midlet and providing information
for devices that are relevant in their respective regions.

If you are interested in supporting the initiative, please comment on
the list of capabilities we provide, preferably over the next 7 days.
Likewise, feel free to comment or ask any question you may have.
After collecting the requirements, we will develop and deploy the
application for everyone in the community to use.

Here is the list of capabilities (we have kept the existing
capabilities already in WURFL, edited some of them):

brand
device_name
user_agent
j2me_cldc_1_0 (JSR-30)
j2me_cldc_1_1 (JSR-139)
j2me_midp_1_0 (JSR-37)
j2me_midp_2_0 (JSR-118)
doja_1_0
doja_1_5
doja_2_0
doja_2_1
doja_2_2
doja_3_0
doja_3_5
doja_4_0
j2me_jtwi (JSR-185)
j2me_mmapi_1_0 (JSR-135)
j2me_mmapi_1_1 (JSR-135)
j2me_wmapi_1_0 (JSR-30)
j2me_wmapi_1_1 (JSR-120)
j2me_wmapi_2_0 (JSR-205)
j2me_btapi (JSR-82)
j2me_3dapi (JSR-184)
j2me_loctapi (JSR-179)
j2me_nokia_ui
j2me_motorola_lwt
j2me_siemens_color_game
j2me_siemens_extension
j2me_heap_size
j2me_max_jar_size
j2me_rms_max_record_store
j2me_rms_max_record_number
j2me_rms_max_record_size
j2me_screen_width
j2me_screen_height
j2me_canvas_width
j2me_canvas_height
j2me_canvas_size
j2me_nokia_canvas_height
j2me_nokia_canvas_width
j2me_nokia_canvas_size
j2me_bits_per_pixel
j2me_audio_capture_enabled
j2me_video_capture_enabled
j2me_photo_capture_enabled
j2me_capture_image_formats
j2me_http
j2me_https
j2me_socket
j2me_udp
j2me_serial
j2me_gif
j2me_gif89a
j2me_jpg
j2me_png
j2me_bmp
j2me_bmp3
j2me_wbmp
j2me_midi
j2me_wav
j2me_amr
j2me_mp3
j2me_mp4
j2me_imelody
j2me_rmf
j2me_au
j2me_aac
j2me_realaudio
j2me_xmf
j2me_wma
j2me_3gpp
j2me_h263
j2me_svgt
j2me_mpeg4
j2me_realvideo
j2me_real8
j2me_realmedia
j2me_left_softkey_code
j2me_right_softkey_code
j2me_middle_softkey_code
j2me_select_key_code
j2me_return_key_code
j2me_clear_key_code
j2me_datefield_no_accepts_null_date
j2me_datefield_broken
j2me_root_certificate
has_qwerty_keyboard
platform (SE JP7, Nokia Series40, Series 60, etc.)
known_issues



Feel free to edit and suggest additional capabilities.

Thanks everyone!

Cato
mBricks




Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:01 pm

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We at mBricks have been using WURFL for more than 18 months now. We are now seeing the need for additional j2me capabilities to meet our product's...
Cato Gleditsch
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Jan 21, 2008
8:04 pm

Thank you, Cato. People, I just want to point out that I have been in contact with Cato and mBricks over the past few weeks. mBricks fully believe in the open...
Luca Passani
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Jan 21, 2008
8:17 pm

Hi Cato, Thanks for this. It's something that could prove to be really useful. Can you clarify why there is a need to have j2me_canvas_... and ...
Jim McLachlan
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Jan 21, 2008
11:16 pm

Hi Jim, Thanks for your inputs! We as well have questions related to the capabilities and would like to discuss with all of you which ones to keep or add. Yes,...
Cato Gleditsch
catogleditsch Offline Send Email
Jan 22, 2008
1:29 pm

At Greenius we also make use of wurlf in combination with our own properties for J2ME. We are in the process of converting our properties into wurfl...
Steven Green
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Jan 22, 2008
1:11 pm

Hi Steven, I agree, the values of the softkeys codes have to be improved, and this is one thing we have discussed with Luca. When we all now are aware of this...
Cato Gleditsch
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Jan 22, 2008
1:42 pm

Can we just have j2me_cldc_version, j2me_midp_version, etc What is the point of having a capability for every version? Thanks, Igor Aptekar Technical Manager ...
Igor Aptekar
teknokrat Offline Send Email
Jan 22, 2008
1:50 pm

... are you sure that this is not a duplication of the has_pointing_device capability: http://wurfl.sourceforge.net/help_doc.php#product_info Pointing device...
Luca Passani
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Jan 22, 2008
1:57 pm

Luca, Yes, I agree, this is a duplication of the has_pointing_device capability. Thanks, Cato ... and ... are ... has_pointing_device ... touchscreen. ... ...
Cato Gleditsch
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Jan 22, 2008
2:03 pm

Hi, I have found that there is a marked difference between touch screens designed to be used with a stylus - eg. Sony-Ericsson UIQ devices, WinMob PocketPCs...
masochismtang0 Offline Send Email Mar 10, 2008
8:31 am

Hi Cato can I suggest we work together to combine benchmark suites and attempt to achieve complete coverage, for example we currently have code to detect soft...
Kieran
canardo80 Offline Send Email
Jan 22, 2008
2:29 pm

Thinking about this some more and catching up with the main mailing list, would it be a good idea to platform request (where possible) off to the new test...
Kieran
canardo80 Offline Send Email
Jan 22, 2008
3:04 pm

If this is needed, I can host. Having a third party hosting would not necessarily be a problem though. In fact, I think that mBricks will do some hosting to...
Luca Passani
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Jan 22, 2008
3:15 pm

Not a problem we can provide hosting, it just if people would feel better having the application hosted somewhere else other than with a commercial company We...
Kieran
canardo80 Offline Send Email
Jan 22, 2008
4:17 pm

... Talking about reinventing the wheel, I really think we should have a very close look at J2MEPolish. They have a quite comprehensive database (including...
Sylvain Wallez
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Jan 23, 2008
11:22 am

While I am probably the least skilled J2ME programmer on this list, I think addressing this issue is up to me. From a technology viewpoint, I understand from...
Luca Passani
luca_passani Offline Send Email
Jan 24, 2008
12:57 am

For a lot of us, a step in the right direction would be harmonizing both of your naming conventions for capabilities. A lot of us use the j2mepolish build...
teknokrat Offline Send Email Jan 24, 2008
9:54 am

... Honestly, I wouldn't hold my breath....what's the J2MEPolish naming convention anyway? Please show them to me and I'll see what I can do, but if they are ...
Luca Passani
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Jan 24, 2008
10:02 am

I think whilst it would be great to get the J2ME polish people involved their strength lies in the apis that they provide, rather than the raw data Luca for...
Kieran
canardo80 Offline Send Email
Jan 24, 2008
10:39 am

I agree that it would be really useful if WURFL and J2ME Polish could work together. Does anybody know someone that works for the J2ME Polish project? I think...
Jim McLachlan
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Jan 24, 2008
11:11 am

Thanks JIm. I think it's a good idea if someone brings what we are doing to J2ME polish attention. On the other hand, I would not want this to get in the way...
Luca Passani
luca_passani Offline Send Email
Jan 24, 2008
11:17 am

Hi, i have a contact to one of the j2mepolish guys. But what should i ask them? why should they be interested in putting their data into a competitive system?...
Bo Bartels
mopotbo Offline Send Email
Jan 24, 2008
12:28 pm

Right. Maybe you may want to tell them about what is going on here (in case they don't know already) and let them decide if they want to have a role or not. ...
Luca Passani
luca_passani Offline Send Email
Jan 24, 2008
12:41 pm

On second thought, I don't even think the situation is so serious. After all, they have already released their data publicly. J2MEPolish is about the API and...
Luca Passani
luca_passani Offline Send Email
Jan 24, 2008
2:25 pm

... I completely agree with that. The business of J2ME Polish is selling commercial licences of their GPL library and consulting/support services. Their...
Sylvain Wallez
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Jan 26, 2008
11:11 am

Hi. Last week i send an email to one of the j2mepolish founders, alsking him to enter the discussion here in the forum. this is what i wrote: (i wrote in...
Bo Bartels
mopotbo Offline Send Email
Jan 28, 2008
11:05 am

Did they reply in any language? Luca...
Luca Passani
luca_passani Offline Send Email
Jan 28, 2008
11:09 am

Not yet. I keep you informed. Bo -- Antwort auf mail vom Montag, 28. Januar 2008 um 12:07...
Bo Bartels
mopotbo Offline Send Email
Jan 28, 2008
11:58 am

Hi, I agree with Steven that lacking of softkey codes is a big issue but another feature that I'm missing is the icon size. It may not be fatal (as softkeys) ...
Raimon Rafols
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Jan 24, 2008
11:40 am

Hi Raimon We as a company are willing to share this information if others are contributing as mentioned in our white paper icon size is something that is...
Kieran
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Jan 24, 2008
1:43 pm
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