This is just a little rant about two style issues in hypertext that I'm seeing more of and don't like much. The first is the _here_ syndrome, e.g.: Information...
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Bill Janssen ...
Aug 3, 1993 11:05 am
Excerpts from ext.WorldWideWeb: 2-Aug-93 Presentation and Semantics .. Nathan Torkington@... (1541) ... I only ask that instead of simply saying, "Start the...
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Marc Andreessen ...
Aug 3, 1993 11:52 am
Anyone going to get upset if I rip out "Window Per Document" for Mosaic 2.0? (Middle button would still cause new windows to appear, and "New Window" and...
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Marc Andreessen ...
Aug 3, 1993 1:05 pm
......ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu in /Mosaic/prerelease. Source, plus binaries for Sun, IBM, SGI. This prerelease fixes problems with prerelease 0. Changes include: o...
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Samir Malak ...
Aug 3, 1993 2:09 pm
Larry Masinter [ much deleted ] ... I think that sums it up quite well, and is a great rule of thumb. I'm strongly in agreement. sm...
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Richard W Wiggins ...
Aug 3, 1993 2:56 pm
... Point well taken, but here is a devil's advocate exception: For initial pages and for some menus, the click _here_ business makes sense. It's a way to...
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Marc Andreessen ...
Aug 3, 1993 5:03 pm
OK, thanks to effort above and beyond the call of duty by lamour@..., font-lock support is working and life is happy. Here be 2.1 beta... Cheers, ...
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Marc Andreessen ...
Aug 3, 1993 5:55 pm
One menu option, "Reload", that reloads both the current document text and any inlined images, OR Two menu options: "Reload" (just text) and "Reload Images"...
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Carter@...
Aug 3, 1993 6:57 pm
... ...... lots deleted ... When I first started constructing HTML documents recently I looked around for some guidance as to style - like was it prefered that...
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Dave_Raggett ...
Aug 3, 1993 7:54 pm
... Before explaining how this might be done, I want to argue that this is problem is an artifact and will disappear with HTML+ Most hypertext links in...
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Peter Lister, Cranfie...
Aug 3, 1993 8:31 pm
One thing I'm sure of: the word "click" is not correct, since it doesn't help anyone with a dumb terminal using www or lynx, where the action is "enter number"...
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Jim Davis ...
Aug 3, 1993 9:50 pm
In response to Frans' suggestion (for markup to indicate that certain elements not be rendered when printing to paper): I suggest a variation that accomplishes...
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Jim Davis ...
Aug 3, 1993 11:04 pm
Let me begin by thanking Dave Ragget (and others) for the great effort in creating the ideas and the document. HTML+ has some powerful features I am eager to...
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Charles Henrich ...
Aug 3, 1993 11:44 pm
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William M. Perry ...
Aug 4, 1993 12:23 am
Thus wrote: Jim Davis [... good discussion about some HTML+ aspects deleted ...] ... Because we love TLAs. :) ... It doesn't say so, but I think this would be...
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Jonathan Abbey ...
Aug 4, 1993 12:39 am
I don't understand. Why should presentation elements be excluded as antithetical to semantic markup? This seems unnecessary. It seems that the argument is...
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Dave_Raggett ...
Aug 4, 1993 3:34 am
... HTML+ includes rendering hints and when they are recognised by browsers, they should be treated in a predictable/consistent way. It makes sense to describe...
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Marc Andreessen ...
Aug 4, 1993 4:21 am
Gimme a goddamn break on the search window crap; I'm getting to it. Marc...
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Marc Andreessen ...
Aug 4, 1993 4:25 am
OK, world, configurable menubars are going in. I give up. And yes, as I said earlier, the contents of the previous Documents and Manuals menus are going to be...
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Kenneth Chang ...
Aug 4, 1993 8:32 am
... I agree that "here" is often annoying. Two problems with this: 1) on line-mode viewers, it isn't even syntatically correct and 2) it essentially forces you...
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Larry Masinter ...
Aug 4, 1993 8:51 am
I'll be the second to wail that not all users 'click' to select a hypertext node. I've used WWW on a Liveboard (pen-based input), and we've at least thought...
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Alan Noble ...
Aug 4, 1993 8:52 am
I run: xlisp mif2html.l < my_mif > my_html and get a document which looks like: <DOCUMENT><Body>Introduction</Body> <Body>The idea of having to maintain over...
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Nathan Torkington ...
Aug 4, 1993 9:43 am
Firstly, let's realise that links are used for multiple semantic reasons. They provide (and this is probably not a complete taxonomy) -- definitions <A...
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Omy Ronquillo ...
Aug 4, 1993 9:48 am
Where can I get more information on the use of <ISINDEX> The HTML manual description on this subject is very very brief. Any additional information on this...
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Hiroaki IKEDA ...
Aug 4, 1993 11:03 am
I am also trying to use <ISINDEX> for keyword search. Could you indicate pointers or simple examples? H. Ikeda ... Department of Electrical and Electronics...
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Nathan Torkington ...
Aug 4, 1993 11:25 am
The <ISINDEX> tag is an indication to browsers that they should allow the entry of search keywords. If search words are entered, the browser requests the same...
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Bill Janssen ...
Aug 4, 1993 12:23 pm
Excerpts from ext.WorldWideWeb: 3-Aug-93 The "here" problem Kenneth Chang@.... (1398) ... How about <A HREF="link">Click here for more information.</A> ...
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Nathan Torkington ...
Aug 4, 1993 3:22 pm
Is everyone else getting two copies of mail from www-talk, or is it just me? Nat...
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Nathan Torkington ...
Aug 4, 1993 3:29 pm
... No its not, as someone (Terry Allen?) pointed out. It is absolutely essential that some form of common reference be able to be used when needed. I read...
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Nathan Torkington ...
Aug 4, 1993 5:05 pm
My ideas on style are now available on the web as http://www.vuw.ac.nz/who/Nathan.Torkington/ideas/html-style.html Cheers; Nat (PS Would people care to share...
