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Hi all. - im developing a YahooGroups archive & Stats service   Message List  
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RE: [xYG] Re: Hi all. - im developing a YahooGroups archive & Stats service

Hi Gordon,

Better late, right?


> - as to uploading a brief history etc... - How does
> that work - what do you think people will upload ?
> (you mean management logs? - I havnt done that yet
> - detailed logs)

No, actual messages they've received. Every (competent) email program
allows you to save messages out in some fashion or another. The MSG or
MBOX formats are probably the most popular. They zip them up and upload
them, your server exctracts it and then parses the content the same as
it would anything else.

Alternatively, if the group has an online archive you could have your
engine visit the site and spider the last 'x' messages.


> As to the RSS feed - i'll need the help of an RSS guru -
> i have no idea re RSS....

RSS isn't too hard. It's a strange markup language in that its NOT
intended to be used by people to just view it. But you can. Here's one
(for this group):
http://rss.groups.yahoo.com/group/xYG/rss

Yahoos RSS feeds are only available IF the group allows public archives.
If it doesn't then you're pretty much out of luck or have to build your
own based on the input you get from them (your own archives). I've also
written scalpers that essentially parse the results of a remote site
based on a given pattern and build the RSS feed on that. Here's one of
those:
http://reliableanswers.com/rss/mli.asp
The original source doesn't have an RSS feed (how sick is that?!) so I
had to make my own. :)

There are a number of RSS aggegators out there, and they can work pretty
much any way you might want. I personally use the "News" plugin for
Trillian for aggregating my RSS feeds. I don't know how I'd live without
it these days. I also use server-side-code-based aggregators for
different client sites. For example, this site:
http://www.motherlodek9.com/
...has an RSS feed taken from "clickertraining.com" embedded directly
onto the homepage near the bottom using a couple lines of ASP code. I've
considered doing the same thing for my programming lists on different
pages of my own sites. I've been putting it off for over a year. Sigh.

Regards,

Shawn K. Hall
http://12PointDesign.com/
http://ReliableAnswers.com/

'// ========================================================
Some days you're the dog, some days you're the hydrant.





Thu Nov 3, 2005 12:45 pm

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I've developped a new YahooGroup archiver system :- ... - & allows the following :- ... FUTURE (currently developing) ... LIMITATIONS :- Unless I decide to...
Gordon Stewart
gordonisnz
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Oct 22, 2005
10:26 am

Hi Gordon, ... I think you should include the ability to download the messages that are *not* within your archive from the YahooGroups server (pre-signup ...
Shawn K. Hall
shawn_ra
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Oct 22, 2005
10:41 am

... are *not* within your archive from the YahooGroups server (pre-signup archival). And, before you delete the archives, send an announcement to the -owner...
Gordon Stewart
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Oct 22, 2005
1:20 pm

http://groups.kwister.com/ Ok... I'll add the text to my 'future' / things to do tomorow (i'm off to bed)... Ive started on the group website - & viewing...
Gordon Stewart
gordonisnz
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Oct 22, 2005
1:55 pm

Hi Gordon, ... If the group lists members then you can pull the YahooID's from the membership rolls here: ...
Shawn K. Hall
shawn_ra
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Oct 22, 2005
7:17 pm

... Yep... I guess parsing the message headers - for say the last 2 months of emails - for moderators is the best way. However it will only work if the group...
Gordon Stewart
gordonisnz
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Oct 23, 2005
6:12 am

... Yep, Ive done the X-Egroups-Approved-By way - Easy aye :) & I've updated the website for changes- & started on the web interface (public archives) ...
Gordon Stewart
gordonisnz
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Oct 23, 2005
3:24 pm

Hi Gordon, ... [[ * added security feature so only Moderators / Group Owners who have approved at least one message, will be able to change this setting. Refer...
Shawn K. Hall
shawn_ra
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Oct 23, 2005
8:07 pm

... At present, I think i'll use 2 months as the test - To only go back 2 months to determine moderators... - Also, Depending on hoiw many messages go through...
Gordon Stewart
gordonisnz
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Oct 24, 2005
6:57 am

Hi Gordon, Better late, right? ... No, actual messages they've received. Every (competent) email program allows you to save messages out in some fashion or...
Shawn K. Hall
shawn_ra
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Nov 3, 2005
12:44 pm
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