Have 'fun' with the move- hope all goes smoothly!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: xap_automation@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:xap_automation@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Patrick Lidstone
> Sent: 22 November 2009 22:03
> To: xap_automation@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [xap_automation] xap and linux
>
> Sure, I can do that - but I won't be able to do so for a week or so.
>
> Patrick
>
> On 22 Nov 2009, at 21:27, Edward Pearson <xap@...> wrote:
>
> > Patrick, why don't you put some of your core apps up on
xapautomation.org
> > ?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Patrick Lidstone <patrick@...>
> > Sent: 22 November 2009 21:14
> > To: xap_automation@yahoogroups.com <xap_automation@yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: [xap_automation] xap and linux
> >
> > According to the logs, the webserver has been seeing plenty of
> > activity recently... It was taken off line this afternoon as it is
> > being relocated - I am moving - and will be back on line in a week or
> > so.
> >
> > Patrick
> >
> > On 22 Nov 2009, at 19:08, Johan Helsingius <yahoo@...> wrote:
> >
> >> I guess this is one of the classic FAQ's, but I am about
> >> to give up on xAP, as the only linux hub seems to be the
> >> one by Patrick Lidstone, and I still haven't managed to
> >> get his web server to respond despite trying for quite a
> >> while...
> >>
> >>   Julf
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Sure, I can do that - but I won't be able to do so for a week or so.

Patrick

On 22 Nov 2009, at 21:27, Edward Pearson <xap@...> wrote:

> Patrick, why don't you put some of your core apps up on xapautomation.org
> ?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Patrick Lidstone <patrick@...>
> Sent: 22 November 2009 21:14
> To: xap_automation@yahoogroups.com <xap_automation@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [xap_automation] xap and linux
>
> According to the logs, the webserver has been seeing plenty of
> activity recently... It was taken off line this afternoon as it is
> being relocated - I am moving - and will be back on line in a week or
> so.
>
> Patrick
>
> On 22 Nov 2009, at 19:08, Johan Helsingius <yahoo@...> wrote:
>
>> I guess this is one of the classic FAQ's, but I am about
>> to give up on xAP, as the only linux hub seems to be the
>> one by Patrick Lidstone, and I still haven't managed to
>> get his web server to respond despite trying for quite a
>> while...
>>
>>   Julf
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Patrick, why don't you put some of your core apps up on xapautomation.org?

-----Original Message-----
From: Patrick Lidstone <patrick@...>
Sent: 22 November 2009 21:14
To: xap_automation@yahoogroups.com <xap_automation@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [xap_automation] xap and linux

According to the logs, the webserver has been seeing plenty of
activity recently... It was taken off line this afternoon as it is
being relocated - I am moving - and will be back on line in a week or
so.

Patrick

On 22 Nov 2009, at 19:08, Johan Helsingius <yahoo@...> wrote:

> I guess this is one of the classic FAQ's, but I am about
> to give up on xAP, as the only linux hub seems to be the
> one by Patrick Lidstone, and I still haven't managed to
> get his web server to respond despite trying for quite a
> while...
>
>    Julf
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>


------------------------------------

Yahoo! Groups Links

According to the logs, the webserver has been seeing plenty of
activity recently... It was taken off line this afternoon as it is
being relocated - I am moving - and will be back on line in a week or
so.

Patrick

On 22 Nov 2009, at 19:08, Johan Helsingius <yahoo@...> wrote:

> I guess this is one of the classic FAQ's, but I am about
> to give up on xAP, as the only linux hub seems to be the
> one by Patrick Lidstone, and I still haven't managed to
> get his web server to respond despite trying for quite a
> while...
>
>    Julf
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

I guess this is one of the classic FAQ's, but I am about
to give up on xAP, as the only linux hub seems to be the
one by Patrick Lidstone, and I still haven't managed to
get his web server to respond despite trying for quite a
while...

	 Julf

Just to let you know - both of the replies you just made E were still
identified as Spam ..
- not sure if it's the phone account maybe - or the thread content - did
the other test ones you made this morning that did work come from the
phone too ?

K

Edward Pearson wrote:
>
> Hurrah! Thanks Paul.
>
> (sent from my phone which was actually the new toy and email provider
> I was trying to get working in the first place - think I'll go have a
> little lie down...)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Hawkins <yahoogroupskh@...
> <mailto:yahoogroupskh%40googlemail.com>>
> Sent: 20 November 2009 12:59
> To: xap_automation@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [xap_automation] Configuring which interface to use in
> xAP/HouseBot plugin
>
> Ahh thanks - there's an option - default is off - it's on now...
>
> K
>
> Paul Gale wrote:
> > That's odd - as a mod of UKHA_D, I get asked for SPAM approval of
> some messages - maybe it's a different case though and some don't get
> flagged???
> >
> > Paul.
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: xap_automation@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> [mailto:xap_automation@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Kevin Hawkins
> >> Sent: 20 November 2009 12:05
> >> To: xap_automation@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [xap_automation] Configuring which interface to use in
> >> xAP/HouseBot plugin
> >>
> >> I've just located your many replies which got hijacked by Yahoo's Spam
> >> filter - not sure why :-(
> >> Unfortunately Yahoo doesn't advise moderators when someting has been
> >> spam filtered.
> >>
> >> K
> >>
> >> Edward Pearson wrote:
> >>
> >>> Been trying to reply to this all week...
> >>>
> >>> Unfortunately you can't in the current version. It'll bind to a local
> >>> hub on
> >>> the loopback address for receive and transmit to
> >>>
> >> 255.255.255.255:3639.
> >>
> >>> That
> >>> should be good enough for most setups. What behaviour are you trying
> >>>
> >> to
> >>
> >>> alter?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus
> >> signature database 4624 (20091120) __________
> >>
> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.
> >>
> >> http://www.eset.com <http://www.eset.com>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus
> signature database 4624 (20091120) __________
> >
> > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.
> >
> > http://www.eset.com <http://www.eset.com>
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
> [The entire original message is not included]
>
>

Hurrah! Thanks Paul.

(sent from my phone which was actually the new toy and email provider I was
trying to get working in the first place - think I'll go have a little lie
down...)

-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Hawkins <yahoogroupskh@...>
Sent: 20 November 2009 12:59
To: xap_automation@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [xap_automation] Configuring which interface to use in xAP/HouseBot
plugin

Ahh thanks - there's an option - default is off - it's on now...

   K

Paul Gale wrote:
> That's odd - as a mod of UKHA_D, I get asked for SPAM approval of some
messages - maybe it's a different case though and some don't get flagged???
>
> Paul.
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xap_automation@yahoogroups.com
>> [mailto:xap_automation@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Hawkins
>> Sent: 20 November 2009 12:05
>> To: xap_automation@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [xap_automation] Configuring which interface to use in
>> xAP/HouseBot plugin
>>
>> I've just located your many replies which got hijacked by Yahoo's Spam
>> filter - not sure why :-(
>> Unfortunately Yahoo doesn't advise moderators when someting has been
>> spam filtered.
>>
>> K
>>
>> Edward Pearson wrote:
>>
>>> Been trying to reply to this all week...
>>>
>>> Unfortunately you can't in the current version. It'll bind to a local
>>> hub on
>>> the loopback address for receive and transmit to
>>>
>> 255.255.255.255:3639.
>>
>>> That
>>> should be good enough for most setups. What behaviour are you trying
>>>
>> to
>>
>>> alter?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus
>> signature database 4624 (20091120) __________
>>
>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.
>>
>> http://www.eset.com
>>
>>
>
>
> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature
database 4624 (20091120) __________
>
> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.
>
> http://www.eset.com
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>



------------------------------------

Yahoo! Groups Links



[The entire original message is not included]

Well at least I'm not losing my mind.
Must have been something in the original message - this was the attempt
where that was not present.

Edward

look at me still talking while there's science to do

> -----Original Message-----
> From: xap_automation@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:xap_automation@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Kevin Hawkins
> Sent: 20 November 2009 12:05
> To: xap_automation@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [xap_automation] Configuring which interface to use in
> xAP/HouseBot plugin
>
> I've just located your many replies which got hijacked by Yahoo's Spam
> filter - not sure why :-(
> Unfortunately Yahoo doesn't advise moderators when someting has been
> spam filtered.
>
> K
>
> Edward Pearson wrote:
> >
> > Been trying to reply to this all week...
> >
> > Unfortunately you can't in the current version. It'll bind to a local
> > hub on
> > the loopback address for receive and transmit to 255.255.255.255:3639.
> > That
> > should be good enough for most setups. What behaviour are you trying to
> > alter?
> >
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Ahh thanks - there's an option - default is off - it's on now...

   K

Paul Gale wrote:
> That's odd - as a mod of UKHA_D, I get asked for SPAM approval of some
messages - maybe it's a different case though and some don't get flagged???
>
> Paul.
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xap_automation@yahoogroups.com
>> [mailto:xap_automation@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Hawkins
>> Sent: 20 November 2009 12:05
>> To: xap_automation@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [xap_automation] Configuring which interface to use in
>> xAP/HouseBot plugin
>>
>> I've just located your many replies which got hijacked by Yahoo's Spam
>> filter - not sure why :-(
>> Unfortunately Yahoo doesn't advise moderators when someting has been
>> spam filtered.
>>
>> K
>>
>> Edward Pearson wrote:
>>
>>> Been trying to reply to this all week...
>>>
>>> Unfortunately you can't in the current version. It'll bind to a local
>>> hub on
>>> the loopback address for receive and transmit to
>>>
>> 255.255.255.255:3639.
>>
>>> That
>>> should be good enough for most setups. What behaviour are you trying
>>>
>> to
>>
>>> alter?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus
>> signature database 4624 (20091120) __________
>>
>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.
>>
>> http://www.eset.com
>>
>>
>
>
> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature
database 4624 (20091120) __________
>
> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.
>
> http://www.eset.com
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

That's odd - as a mod of UKHA_D, I get asked for SPAM approval of some messages
- maybe it's a different case though and some don't get flagged???

Paul.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: xap_automation@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:xap_automation@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Hawkins
> Sent: 20 November 2009 12:05
> To: xap_automation@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [xap_automation] Configuring which interface to use in
> xAP/HouseBot plugin
>
> I've just located your many replies which got hijacked by Yahoo's Spam
> filter - not sure why :-(
> Unfortunately Yahoo doesn't advise moderators when someting has been
> spam filtered.
>
> K
>
> Edward Pearson wrote:
> >
> > Been trying to reply to this all week...
> >
> > Unfortunately you can't in the current version. It'll bind to a local
> > hub on
> > the loopback address for receive and transmit to
> 255.255.255.255:3639.
> > That
> > should be good enough for most setups. What behaviour are you trying
> to
> > alter?
> >
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus
> signature database 4624 (20091120) __________
>
> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.
>
> http://www.eset.com
>


__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature
database 4624 (20091120) __________

The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.

http://www.eset.com

I've just located your many replies which got hijacked by Yahoo's Spam
filter - not sure why :-(
Unfortunately Yahoo doesn't advise moderators when someting has been
spam filtered.

K

Edward Pearson wrote:
>
> Been trying to reply to this all week...
>
> Unfortunately you can't in the current version. It'll bind to a local
> hub on
> the loopback address for receive and transmit to 255.255.255.255:3639.
> That
> should be good enough for most setups. What behaviour are you trying to
> alter?
>
>

Been trying to reply to this all week...

Unfortunately you can't in the current version. It'll bind to a local hub on
the loopback address for receive and transmit to 255.255.255.255:3639. That
should be good enough for most setups. What behaviour are you trying to
alter?

Typical!

--- In xap_automation@yahoogroups.com, Edward Pearson <edward.mailgroup@...>
wrote:
>
> Why can't I post?
>
> All your base are belong to us.
>

Why can't I post?

All your base are belong to us.

---

From: xap_automation@yahoogroups.com [mailto:xap_automation@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of James
Sent: 16 November 2009 22:19
To: xap_automation@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [xap_automation] How do I set NIC in mi4 Floorplan ?

 

Hi,

You can get the latest build here:

http://mi4.biz/files/xapfloorplan/floorplantsctest.zip

the broadcast setting is on the main settings page, replace the 255.255.255.255 with  192.168.0.255 , or whatever fits your network addressing. It may well need a restart after changing it. 

James

On 16 Nov 2009, at 16:37, Marcus Warrington wrote:

 

James,

 

Thanks for the reply :)

 

I'll try "jigging" around my interfaces tonight, but I'm also happy to beta test your "test" build if your can send me a link  ?

Since I'm only at the stage of trying/playing with all this its no great shakes if it has a few oddities, its not like SWMBO will be allowed to see it ;)

 

Regards

 

Marcus

---

From: xap_automation@yahoogroups.com [mailto:xap_automation@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of James
Sent: 13 November 2009 18:37
To: xap_automation@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [xap_automation] How do I set NIC in mi4 Floorplan ?

 

Hi,

Sorry for the delay, been away for a while.

The current Floorplan is stuck to the primary interface. You should be able to shuffle the interfaces around by the adapter priority within the networks setting but I have seen oddities, especially with bluetooth dongles that always seem to be primary no matter what you do.

  I have a test build here that allow for selection, basically you just set a suitable broadcast address for the adapter/network you want and it seems to work fine, but it is under test. You're welcome to try it if you like but I wouldn't fully trust it yet!

James

On 23 Oct 2009, at 08:17, Marcus Warrington wrote:

 

Does anyone now how I specifiy which NIC to bind to in the mi4 Floorplan application ?

 

Its defaulting to my Bluetooth connection but I need it to be my Wifi connection.

I've looked in the "settings.txt" file but can't see anywhere obvious to set it ?

 

Thanks

 

Marcus

Firstly, I feel a bit guilty about asking for a bug-fix when I have never got
round to thanking anyone for the xAP bits I use every day (xAP Floorplan, xAP
X10 Connector, xAP MCS 1-Wire, xAP MCS CID, xap MCS K3145, xAP MCS WOL, xAP
Jabber), but here goes anyway.

xAP Jabber 0.5 is connecting to the XMPP network, sending, receiving and showing
status perfectly, but when I send it a IM it produces a malformed xAP message:

------------------------
The following message caused an error during its processing.
Name/value pair contains no valid separator characters
The message was received from 127.0.0.1:58809

------------
xap-header
{
v=12
hop=1
uid=FF111300
Class=messenger.event
Source=mi4.jabber.Jabber
}
Message.Receive
{
From=blah@.../Talk.v104659BEEDB
Talk.v104555C3C06
gmail.EB49AA97
palringo0589DD3D
gmail.FF7F215B
gmail.FF7F6118
Talk.v104C7BB0132
Body=blah blah
}


------------
The error that was generated is as follows:
Name/value pair contains no valid separator characters

Source: xFx
Name/value pair contains no valid separator characters
KCS.xAP.Framework.xAPMessageReaderException: Name/value pair contains no valid
separator characters
    at KCS.xAP.Framework.Message.xAPInfo.GetPairValueEncodingFormat(String line,
Int32 line_number)
    at KCS.xAP.Framework.Message.xAPMessageReader.ReadMessagePair(xAPMessage
message, String line)
    at KCS.xAP.Framework.Message.xAPMessageReader.ReadMessage()
    at KCS.xAP.Framework.Transport.xAPListener.ProcessQueuedMessage(xAPRawData
data)
------------------------

I think this is because xAP Jabber wasn't expecting the sender to be online on
multiple devices. The different locations are appearing on separate lines after
the sender's email address.  Would it be possible to get xAP Jabber to strip
everything after the email address?

---

From: xap_automation@yahoogroups.com [mailto:xap_automation@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of James
Sent: 16 November 2009 22:19
To: xap_automation@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [xap_automation] How do I set NIC in mi4 Floorplan ?

 

Hi,

You can get the latest build here:

http://mi4.biz/files/xapfloorplan/floorplantsctest.zip

the broadcast setting is on the main settings page, replace the 255.255.255.255 with  192.168.0.255 , or whatever fits your network addressing. It may well need a restart after changing it. 

James

On 16 Nov 2009, at 16:37, Marcus Warrington wrote:

 

James,

 

Thanks for the reply :)

 

I'll try "jigging" around my interfaces tonight, but I'm also happy to beta test your "test" build if your can send me a link  ?

Since I'm only at the stage of trying/playing with all this its no great shakes if it has a few oddities, its not like SWMBO will be allowed to see it ;)

 

Regards

 

Marcus

---

From: xap_automation@yahoogroups.com [mailto:xap_automation@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of James
Sent: 13 November 2009 18:37
To: xap_automation@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [xap_automation] How do I set NIC in mi4 Floorplan ?

 

Hi,

Sorry for the delay, been away for a while.

The current Floorplan is stuck to the primary interface. You should be able to shuffle the interfaces around by the adapter priority within the networks setting but I have seen oddities, especially with bluetooth dongles that always seem to be primary no matter what you do.

  I have a test build here that allow for selection, basically you just set a suitable broadcast address for the adapter/network you want and it seems to work fine, but it is under test. You're welcome to try it if you like but I wouldn't fully trust it yet!

James

On 23 Oct 2009, at 08:17, Marcus Warrington wrote:

 

Does anyone now how I specifiy which NIC to bind to in the mi4 Floorplan application ?

 

Its defaulting to my Bluetooth connection but I need it to be my Wifi connection.

I've looked in the "settings.txt" file but can't see anywhere obvious to set it ?

 

Thanks

 

Marcus

---

From: xap_automation@yahoogroups.com [mailto:xap_automation@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of James
Sent: 13 November 2009 18:37
To: xap_automation@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [xap_automation] How do I set NIC in mi4 Floorplan ?

 

Hi,

Sorry for the delay, been away for a while.

The current Floorplan is stuck to the primary interface. You should be able to shuffle the interfaces around by the adapter priority within the networks setting but I have seen oddities, especially with bluetooth dongles that always seem to be primary no matter what you do.

  I have a test build here that allow for selection, basically you just set a suitable broadcast address for the adapter/network you want and it seems to work fine, but it is under test. You're welcome to try it if you like but I wouldn't fully trust it yet!

James

On 23 Oct 2009, at 08:17, Marcus Warrington wrote:

 

Does anyone now how I specifiy which NIC to bind to in the mi4 Floorplan application ?

 

Its defaulting to my Bluetooth connection but I need it to be my Wifi connection.

I've looked in the "settings.txt" file but can't see anywhere obvious to set it ?

 

Thanks

 

Marcus

Yes, pressing Enter is a particular condition in MyOpenLab but one gets used to
this easily.

Daniel.


--- In xap_automation@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Hawkins <yahoogroupskh@...> wrote:
>
> Ahh - you have to hit enter after typing it in the property editor... ,
> not just select another field :-)
>
> K
>
> Kevin Hawkins wrote:
> > I've got a few minor things I've still got to suss - like how to get the
> > captions to be displayed and persist
>

Ahh - you have to hit enter after typing it in the property editor... ,
not just select another field :-)

K

Kevin Hawkins wrote:
> I've got a few minor things I've still got to suss - like how to get the
> captions to be displayed and persist

Hi Daniel,

Wow...this looks really interesting and has huge potential - just having
a play now... got some BSC endpoints setup and I'll let you know how I
get on :-)

I've got a few minor things I've still got to suss - like how to get the
captions to be displayed and persist - I only have default names
displayed currently despite altering them using the right click
properties (English) and also in the elements property editor... I'll
get there..

K

Daniel Berenguer wrote:
>
> Hi xAP people.
>
> The first xAP BSC extension for MyOpenLab has just been released:
>
> http://sites.google.com/a/usapiens.com/opnode/products/myopenlab
> <http://sites.google.com/a/usapiens.com/opnode/products/myopenlab>
>
> MyOpenLab is an open platform for doing simulations, graphical
> programmings and visual interfaces. It's written in Java so it can be
> run on many OS's. The great thing about MyOpenLab is that complex
> programmings can be done just placing and linking visual components on
> a project sheet. I thought that this software could find a place among
> the xAP community when I first evaluated it some months ago as some
> xAP/opnode users have reported to me the need for such graphical tool
> for their projects.
>
> Those having worked with LabView and Simulink will appreciate the work
> done by Carmelo Salafia, the author of this great open project. For
> those having never worked with a graphical programming tool, you'll
> find a simple way of avoiding hand-coding scripts and creating custom
> graphical interfaces for your Home Automation projects :-D
>
> Anyway, the new xAP extension for MyOpenLab is a very first beta
> version. I still need some help from you in order to bring this
> development into a usable/productive stage.
>
> For further information about MyOpenLab please visit
> http://www.myopenlab.de/ <http://www.myopenlab.de/>
>
> Best regards,
>
> --
> Daniel Berenguer
> http://www.usapiens.com <http://www.usapiens.com>
> http://www.opnode.org <http://www.opnode.org>
>
>

I've got a machine with two network interfaces, and I've found the instructions
on how to make xFx and the viewer work with the correct one.  But how do you do
the same changes on the HouseBot plugin?

I hope the suggestions do provide a solution that works for you.

It's a shame that Mikko has not interacted with the xAP community in a
way that would have ensured LogTemp adhered to the specification.
Although I haven't used his application it appears from the messages you
posted that his TSC implementation is not going to work.  I am unsure
that he has implemented the bidirectional data exchange either but FTTB
let's assume that bit works.

  The TSC specification is documented in great detail here
http://www.xapautomation.org/index.php?title=xAP_Telemetry_Status_and_Control_Sc\
hema
and it is derived from our heavily used BSC specification again
documented in great detail here
http://www.xapautomation.org/index.php?title=Basic_Status_and_Control_Schema
which supplements the standard xAP specification document.

As I posted on the xAP developers list I am happy to work with Mikko to
try and get his application compliant with the specifications but only
if the schema specification is met is there any possibility that his
application will interact with other xAP applications supporting TSC.
My recommendation to him would be to support either BSC or TSC via a
selectable dropdown for maximum plug and play interoperability currently
but TSC alone is viable.  Failing that he could just present his data
using an informational schema ( a list of values). This is possibly what
the 'own message for each sensor' option already does . Nearly all these
informational schema are supportable in nearly all applications eg
HomeSeer, Charmed Quark, xAP Floorplan, HouseBot, Cortex,  Girder(?)
,MisterHouse(?)  etc although the OPNMax embedded controller is BSC
centric.  However the problem comes when you implement a standard schema
incorrectly.

I hope Mikko will refine the xAP TSC support within his application as
it looks to be a great application , and particularly useful for the
logging aspects. However should he not be wanting to do that then it
would be better if he did withdraw xAP support altogether as presenting
invalid xAP schema doesn't help anyone.  Should he do this and if you
are in need of 1-wire sensor information presented on xAP then there are
several other applications that already offer this , and even a couple
of standalone embedded 1-wire controllers with xAP support. These work
well with xAP Floorplan etc.

Supporting xAP allows your device to immediately integrate with most of
the leading HA applications without you having to write and maintain
your own plugins for each application - an attractive proposition.

    K


   mhradom wrote:
>
>
> Kevin,
>
> Thanks for the information. I have not had time to "play" (as my wife
> calls it) around with it today. Maybe over the weekend. I did get a
> response from Mikko at MRsoft and it seems he wants to pull xAP
> support from Logtemp.
>

Kevin,

Thanks for the information. I have not had time to "play" (as my wife calls it)
around with it today. Maybe over the weekend. I did get a response from Mikko at
MRsoft and it seems he wants to pull xAP support from Logtemp. His mail follows:
-------------------------------------------
Hi,

Thanks! There have been some statements about the correct schema implementation,
but so far there are too many open issues. I sure that LogTemp could be modified
to work with some other software, but that does not guarantee it would work also
with other similar implementations. So, schema must reach a higher level and
specify in details it's usage. Of course this is not your fault.

The current plan for LogTemp is to remove xAP support totally. Schema proposals
have been there for some years allready without any real progress, therefore
it's not very tempting to start using them today.

Anyway, we will follow the case for some time and make our decision after that.
Thank you for your info.

Best regards,

Mikko Rintala
MR Soft
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Maybe you guys can get together to get this ironed out and help TSC schema to
flourish?

Thanks,

Mike
--- In xap_automation@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Hawkins <yahoogroupskh@...> wrote:
>
> Another possibility...
>
> I see in the setup tab for xAP that there are a couple of options.
> http://www.mrsoft.fi/images/ltaxen.png
>
> One is 'send all sensors' - try setting this to yes, and 'own message
> for each sensor' .  What gets sent if you disable this ?
>
> You could try it in xAPv1.3 too just in case it's different - I assume
> that dropdown has just the 1.2/1.3 options ?  (I'm only looking at teh
> screenshot
>
>    K
>