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Re: first post: What flavors of XBL are there?

> I've wondered before whether an implementation of sXBL in script would
> be viable (to get more people to try using it in UAs other than Batik),
> but of course it's not possible to implement completely correctly, since
> there's no way to have real shadow trees.

Cameron,

Not completely sure about that. I do agree that it would probably be
fairly inefficient, but I'm not sure that a Javascript shadow tree
arrangement would be out of the realm of possibility. Been thinking
about implementing something like that for IE anyway, so I can start
developing cross platform bindings without getting locked in JS
spaghetti code.

-- Kurt










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I count 4 different flavors: MozXBL1, MozXBL2, sXBL, w3cXBL2. This is not how they were/are originally named by the parties that designed them, but...
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Apr 17, 2006
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Can we count XBLinJS as another serious flavour? http://www.jerf.org/resources/xblinjs/ The developer created it cause he doesn't like MozXBL: ...
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Apr 19, 2006
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Hi Ruud. ... I've wondered before whether an implementation of sXBL in script would be viable (to get more people to try using it in UAs other than Batik), but...
Cameron McCormack
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Apr 19, 2006
12:54 pm

... Interesting. If I'm reading the definition of "shadow tree" correctly, I consider it one of the *advantages* of XBLinJS that it uses *real* nodes and not...
Jeremy Bowers
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Apr 19, 2006
3:52 pm

Hi, Jeremy- As I understand it, the advantage of shadow-trees is in their direct connection with the source elements, in terms of structure, semantics, and ...
Doug Schepers
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Apr 19, 2006
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... Ah, yes, that makes sense. One of my basic objections about the way this stuff is being engineered is that everything you mentioned is dependent upon being...
Jeremy Bowers
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Apr 19, 2006
9:56 pm

... In a word, encapsulation. Having the shadow nodes inside a shadow tree that is connected to the element, and not in the real DOM, affords some level of...
Cameron McCormack
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Apr 19, 2006
11:10 pm

Re: shadow nodes and event binding I think that the only things that you wouldn't be able to do with a Javascript implementation of an XBL would be obscuring...
Kurt Cagle
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Apr 21, 2006
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... Cameron, Not completely sure about that. I do agree that it would probably be fairly inefficient, but I'm not sure that a Javascript shadow tree ...
Kurt Cagle
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Apr 21, 2006
5:48 am

... I don't think it would be that inefficient, but there'd be the issue of having things like: <svg ...> <g id="stuff"> <ex:star cx="100" cy="100"...
Cameron McCormack
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Apr 21, 2006
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What if there was a central requirement that the shadow tree 1) had to be contained within the element, 2) had to be in a namespace with a different prefix...
Kurt Cagle
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Apr 21, 2006
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... I added the xmlns declaration to your first svg tag, because I think you need it and I need it for my point. This won't work. The 'abbreviation' of the...
Jeremy Bowers
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Apr 21, 2006
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... Yeah, it seems a bit dodgy somehow to rely on the prefix that was used (especially since the element may have been created in a namespace but without a...
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