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Re: [xipf-talk] Re: Thoughts on xipf -- feedback welcome

Hi, Lucas,

The container was able to hold/reference as many media files as you wanted.
There was no limit.  It basically created a self-contained "web" since it could use html, images, audio, video, text files and even other .box files inside of itself (packages within packages) which you could hyperlink to and create more complex environments.  Of course the .box file size would increase with each additional item added to it. 

Throttlebox had good success back then, basically sigining deals with record labels to create custom box files for madonna and other artists.  I was a driving force to get the technology into a cross-compatible state and some work began on a Java version.  But not quickly enough and Throttlebox became irrelevent in the after-effects of Napsterization. 

Obviously, the underlying idea of having these media wraps has always been important and I personally have had great interest in the topic for a long time.   I lost interest for a while when my focus turned onto Open Media and just making web apps work better instead... or settling for Flash usage.  But as this discussion makes clear, media wrapping is still very relevant... not for DRM but for logical organizationa nd presentation of works.

sull

On 11/27/06, Lucas Gonze <lucas.gonze@...> wrote:

On 11/26/06, sull <sulleleven@...> wrote:
> Back in 2000ish, i worked with a technology called Throttlebox which was a media wrapper (executable) that played .box files which contained various media formats and presentation data. A player was required to run these .box files.

Hey sull -- did these container files contain more than one format of
the same underlying song?

-L




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... The thoughts we have been having is to use XML as a description of the media in the liner note, and a folder of files to old the actual media. The lyrics...
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Hi everyone. Not sure if I have posted here before, but as this topic is super-relevant to me, thought I would contribute. On my site Cruxy, we enable anyone...
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Fantastic to hear that you're already doing packages in a zip file, Nathan. That means that there is an iterative path to an enhanced format -- just keep...
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... What we have released today is very simple - as long as its a ZIP its an Album. That is because the artists themselves create the ZIP files and upload them...
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there is also the related tech of 'installers'. i believe that was part of an older thread here? ... -- Sull http://vlogdir.com (a project) ...
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The mozilla extension archive (.xpi), which is also a zip file, is probably another useful model for what you're proposing. The other question that occurs to...
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... probably ... Other models: Yum in the Linux world. From the PHP world, a PEAR package works in a similar way. it's a tar.gz file packaged in a particular...
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... Excellent. Let's see what we can learn from that. (From http://www.orablogs.com/duffblog/archives/000536.html) ... An XPI file is just a normal zip file...
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I am still interested in this topic as well. Back in 2000ish, i worked with a technology called Throttlebox which was a media wrapper (executable) that played...
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... Hey sull -- did these container files contain more than one format of the same underlying song? -L...
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Hi, Lucas, The container was able to hold/reference as many media files as you wanted. There was no limit. It basically created a self-contained "web" since...
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All, I must admit to a feeling of deja-vu reviewing the discussion taking place here. Some while back I pointed out that the requirements for the container...
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... Well, I perhaps not direct random access, but I know you can easily stream out files from a ZIP/JAR Archive. Just something about the word ISO and...
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... Hey Jon, thanks for posting here. This is a great metaphor to describe the problem. Almost everything you do in this space opens up a ton of questions. ...
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... I don't see a need to do this at all. leave these definitions up to the creator, trying to guess them will guarantee exclusion. ... this works fine. The...
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