Regarding the "Open Directory Project" owned by Netscape, Inc. The open directory is the second most popular directory search engine available (the most...
kmslogic@...
Jul 5, 2001 11:44 pm
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Hi, I'm still an active ODP editor, but I find it interesting to hear what people think 'on the other side'. So I hope it's okay for me to reply to your post -...
Ciaran Hamilton
ciaranha@...
Jul 6, 2001 6:52 pm
630
... include an email address. It sounds obvious, but... << Obviously, I meant to say "if you wish to have a higher chance of the editor being able to...
Ciaran Hamilton
ciaranha@...
Jul 6, 2001 6:52 pm
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The only problem I see with this letter is that there is no such company as "Netscape". Dmoz is owned by AOL/Time Warner, the world's largest media company. * ...
Steve Thomas
steve@...
Jul 7, 2001 5:20 pm
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... reason, ... I'll clarify a few things about my particular situation... 1. I did suppy an email address the three times I submitted the site (about two...
kmslogic@...
Jul 7, 2001 5:21 pm
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As a matter of fact, you should also point out that ODP is directly controlled by AOL/TW, not a "small group of people". Defacto, all editors work for them,...
Steve Thomas
steve@...
Jul 7, 2001 6:34 pm
634
... you're joking right? Ever heard of girl scout cookies? They generate millions of dollars in revenue and are sold by free labor too. Or hey, what about...
Shanti Reichlein
brigid23@...
Jul 8, 2001 12:57 am
635
Last I heard, AOL/Time Warner is not a non-profit organization. Perhaps they should call ODP the "Steve Case Lear Jet Fund" or something. * * Steve Thomas...
Steve Thomas
steve@...
Jul 8, 2001 2:26 am
636
... company as ... media ... Although there may be no such company as "Netscape", this is from the ODP information page... "The ODP is hosted and administered...
kmslogic@...
Jul 8, 2001 5:08 pm
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Hey - Steve - I LIKE you and your brain. I'm a wherewithal editor - I'm going back to work more there. My site's suffering due to that friggin ODP. Wish we...
Kangley@...
Jul 9, 2001 12:47 pm
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... Could you post some of these links? In the first ten pages of links from a Google search for "Open Directory Project", I found exactly one mild complaint...
Tim Maroney
tim@...
Jul 9, 2001 12:48 pm
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... Right. It's the use of unpaid labor to generate revenue for a for-profit organization that is in apparent violation of USA labor laws. Non-profits have a...
Tim Maroney
tim@...
Jul 9, 2001 12:49 pm
640
... http://search.aol.com/cat.adp?id=8081&layer=&from=breadcrumb You see the 468x60 GIFs on the top and bottom of the page, and the big square one on the...
Steve Thomas
steve@...
Jul 9, 2001 5:27 pm
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... The ones that say "Place an ad for AOL on your site and get $15"? Sure, I see them. You imagine that makes money? Welcome to 2001, Steve. You might ...
Tim Maroney
tim@...
Jul 10, 2001 6:43 am
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Tim: <RANT> Yahoo alone will make over $500 million in online ads in the next four quarters. The overall market is at least $5 billion per year and is STILL ...
... "Yahoo alone" being the operative words. (Only AOL is even in the same revenue range, but for all their advertising revenue, they're not selling any...
Tim Maroney
tim@...
Jul 11, 2001 12:32 am
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I think it's about time WWA stopped trying to blow a bunch of hot air attacking ODP when they've got their own "pile of stench" to clean up. Fact: WWA has...
balladofjayne@...
Jul 11, 2001 12:35 am
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[Ballad of Jayne:] ... A man cannot speak but he judges himself. With his will, or against his will, he draws his portrait to the eye of his companions by...
David Prenatt
netesq@...
Jul 11, 2001 12:53 am
647
[Ciaran Hamilton:] ... As the sole owner and moderator of the XODP eGroup, not to mention a free speech zealot, I can assure you that your posts here are not...
David Prenatt
netesq@...
Jul 11, 2001 1:04 am
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[Steve Thomas:] ... See netscape and aol/time-warner, part two, by Jamie Zawinski. (< http://www.jwz.org/gruntle/aoltw.html >.) Humbly Yours, XODP Moderator...
David Prenatt
netesq@...
Jul 11, 2001 1:08 am
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My information is this: 1) Ads make money (they are not free)--even if they are "internal", they are still worth money (viz. they are selling something, which ...
Steve Thomas
steve@...
Jul 11, 2001 1:29 am
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[Steve Thomas:] ... I see many problems with the Department of Justice (DOJ) making a case against AOL, but I don't see the relevance of the particular point...
David Prenatt
netesq@...
Jul 11, 2001 1:32 am
651
[Tim Maroney:] ... Yes and no. The Sound and the Fury has more or less passed, but not a day goes by wherein I do not receive an e-mail from someone who is...
David Prenatt
netesq@...
Jul 11, 2001 1:53 am
652
[Steve Thomas wrote previously:] ... [Tim Maroney rejoined:] ... This is a gross misstatement of the applicable law. Non-profit status is primarily used as a...
David Prenatt
netesq@...
Jul 11, 2001 3:15 am
653
... Thank you for the correction. -- Tim Maroney tim@......
Tim Maroney
tim@...
Jul 11, 2001 3:44 am
654
... Just for reference, the above does not represent my position. It represents only another attack upon a straw man. -- Tim Maroney tim@......
Tim Maroney
tim@...
Jul 11, 2001 3:45 am
655
... Well, then, where are they? This is a sincere question. The last ex-editor complaint I recall is from Spock, and it was not really a complaint. That was...
Tim Maroney
tim@...
Jul 11, 2001 4:30 am
656
[Tim Maroney (responding to Steve Thomas):] ... ODP's operating costs are quite insignificant and easily overlooked. As such, AOL probably books all ODP...
David Prenatt
netesq@...
Jul 11, 2001 4:32 am
657
[David Prenatt asserted:] ... [Tim Maroney inquired:] ... If you reread my previous post, you'll note that I mentioned my e-mail correspondence on the topic....
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