> Hi all,
>
> I've done a lot of installing with XOSL and one of the problems I've
> had to make fairly cumbersome work-arounds for, is booting Win2k
from
> an NTFS partition.
>
> --- "Brad K." <zelmak@h...> wrote:
>
> > I'm now able to boot using XOSL into '98, '98 command prompt and
> > Win2K. Neither operating system knows that the other exists and
don't
> > rely on each other for anything (booting.) I'm so happy. ;-) I
even
>
> So how did you manage to boot Win2k from a NTFS partition from XOSL?
> Can XOSL start the Win2k boot-loader from within a NTFS partition?
>
> -----
> Guttorm

When I "hid" the '98 partition and made the NTFS partition
active/unhidden then went through the Win2K install procedure, I made
sure (aka, forced) it to install to that partition. When I got done,
the MBR was, of course, the standard NT boot loader. I fixed the MBR
a number of times with the GDISK program so I may have left one
particular one out. But apparently, the same boot loader was
installed in the boot sector of the NTFS partition as well.

Think about it: for those businesses out there that *don't* dual-boot
*and* use NTFS for *all* their partitions (like we do here with our
NT 4.0 boxes). We don't have FAT/FAT32 partitions with boot loaders
on them. The MBR loader (IPL?) loads the boot sector of the NTFS
partition which in turn loads the NT boot loader *and* runs NTLDR.
Unfortunately, with this setup, you *have* to build emergency disks
because if your boot.ini file gets corrupted, it will be in an NTFS
partition and unless you've got the DOS-mode or Win98/95 "drivers" to
allow you to peer into that NTFS partition, you're hosed. You can't
boot NT/2K to repair the boot.ini file (or anything else for that
matter.)

How do you create the boot sector after the fact? Dunno. Want a copy
of my 2K boot sector to try to copy to yours? One thing I was gonna
try when I get my computer back (I'm in the US military and moving
from overseas back stateside--yeah!!!) is to see if moving that
partition into the extended partition (making it a logical versus a
primary) will work. Theoretically, it should, but will XOSL boot it?
Would the MBR? And can it be made active? Does it need to be?

Hope this helps,
Brad

I used PTS Disk Editor (de, looks like old Norton Disk Editor ...)

I certainly enjoy XOSL a lot 'cause it deserves a lot :-)

Philippe

----- Original Message -----
From: "Filip Komar" <filip.komar@...>
To: <xosl@egroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: [xosl] EZ-Drive


> > I don't exactly use ez-drive, but Maxblast which is, as far as I know,
> only
> > a repackaging os ez-drive. But it doesn't need a specific partition, I
> guess
> > it is put in the first disk hidden track.
> If you'll search old messages about EZ-Drive on this list you'll maybe get
> more info.
>
> > So it appeared to me that MaxBlast IPL (as standard IPL) will only boot
> > an active partition if the magic number of the boot sector for a FAT-16
> like
> > is 0xAA55, which was not the case for XOSL dedicated partition (although
> > its boot sectors complies to FAT 16).
> >
> > So setting it solved the problem.
> Just curius? Which disk editor did you use for that?
>
> I hope that you are now enjoy XOSL the way it deserves.
>
> :-) filip.
>
>
>
>
>

I'm writing about all this in documentation. Some quick info follows.
I hope that it will be complete soon.

> Win2k kept on putting its boot loader on the Win98
> partition,
One way is copy boot files for Windows 2000 from Win98 partition to
Win2k partition and then hide other primary partitions.

boot files for Windows NT or Windows 2000:
NTLDR,
BOOT.INI,
ntdetect.com,
and for Windows 2000 also (arcload or something like that).exe.
Check date and time just to be shure.

Make that partition bootable if you didn't create or format it with
Windows NT or Windows 2000:
Solution for FAT type Windows NT or Windows 2000 boot partition is
to use BootPart for making that partition bootable.
Boot that partition (rest should be hidden with XOSL) with
Windows 9x floopy and type: "bootpart winnt boot:c:".
For NTFS type solution is not tested yet, but maybe it works.
Try to use Partition Magic to copy partition or change to FAT and
then back again.


> and also the NTFS file system seemed to bully my other OSs
> and own the whole boot record and make my 2nd disk unreadable when I
> boot up on dos floppy.
Dos just can't see more than one primary partition.

>  Finally, I installed Win2k on a FAT 32 at the
> front of the drive before Win98 existed so that it would have a
> self-contained boot loader.
Why don't you just use hiding in XOSL?


> In future configs I think it would be nice to have XOSL in a primary
> partition
Don't waste primary partitions. They can be used more efficiently.
Install XOSL on logical partition!

> I have yet to subdue the MS OSs so that
> they will install onto logical partitions.  Can somebody give me
> detailed info on how to trick different Windows versions into
> installing into the extended partition?

It's not possible to install Windows 9x on a logical partition
directly because of a "SU 013 Error". But wait, there are
possibilities for that, although they are tricky:

Copy "Windows" primary partition to logical partition and make it
bootable. Detailed instructions follows:

a) Prepare yourself one logical partition. If you already have D:
partition and you like to keep it that way, use partition before that
one for your new C:! Also be careful about 1024 cylinder limitation!
b) Copy your old c: to that partition. That can be tricky. If you
do it in DOS mode (better), you should recover long filenames and
attributes (DOSLFNBK can do that for you). If you copy in Windows
(simpler), you should skip files in use like swapfile (win386.swp)
or an error will stop copying. Be sure to copy _all_ files and
folders including system and hidden files. Preserve attributes of
those files.
c) Make your new partition bootable: type "sys d:". Don't worry
about activating your new partition.
d) In XOSL change your Boot item to hide all existing primary
partitions and boot copied logical partition.

With Partition Magic is even simpler: make room for "Copy"ing
partition in _free_ space in _extended_ partition, then "Copy" it
and sys it. That's it. You can also create another primary partition
for that if possible. But beware one thing; you shouldn't change
order of your Windows partition. If before is C:, then after that it
should stay C:. If you want that, then this partition must be first
nonhidden primary or logical partition (e.g. hide _all_ preceding
FAT partitions).

Now when your "logical" Windows 9x is working, there are no
restriction to install whatever OS on your first primary partition
or to repeat this as many times you need for multiple instalation
of Windows 9x! Note another thing; when booted with XOSL
Windows 9x doesn't need to reside on active partition.

Maybe this pictures will explain better. My recommendation for
installation of XOSL is (usually hidden) non-dedicated logical
partition. For better viewing of this pictures, copy them to
notepad or some other editor with _fixed_ font width!

Partition structure before:
  ____Primary___   _____________________Extended_______________________
|              | |  ______________   ______________   ______________  |
|              | | |   Logical    | |   Logical    | |   Logical    | |
|              | | |              | |              | |              | |
| Windows 9x A | | |    Empty     | |    Empty     | |     XOSL     | |
|              | | |______________| |______________| |______________| |
|______________| |____________________________________________________|

Partition structure after:
  ____Primary___   _____________________Extended_______________________
|              | |  ______________   ______________   ______________  |
|              | | |   Logical    | |   Logical    | |   Logical    | |
|              | | |              | |              | |              | |
|   Whatever   | | | Windows 9x A | | Windows 9x B | |     XOSL     | |
|              | | |______________| |______________| |______________| |
|______________| |____________________________________________________|

For running "Windows 9x A" hide just first primary partition. Maybe
for safety second logical too. For running "Windows 9x B" hide first
primary _and_ also first logical partition.

--- In xosl@egroups.com, "Filip Komar" <filip.komar@e...> wrote:
> I'm writing about all this in documentation. Some quick info
follows.
> I hope that it will be complete soon.
>
> > Win2k kept on putting its boot loader on the Win98
> > partition,
> One way is copy boot files for Windows 2000 from Win98 partition to
> Win2k partition and then hide other primary partitions.
>
> boot files for Windows NT or Windows 2000:
> NTLDR,
> BOOT.INI,
> ntdetect.com,
> and for Windows 2000 also (arcload or something like that).exe.
> Check date and time just to be shure.
>

[whole bunch of good information snipped for brevity]

Geurt -- see what you've done? We're now reaching farther and pushing
the envelope on computer geekiness... ;-)

So "bootpart" is NT/2K's equivalent to MS-DOS/Win95/98/ME's "sys"?
Way cool.

Thanks for the info, Filip!

Brad

I recently bought an Aptiva 2270 and am learning a lot about how IBM
puts their PC's together.  One surprise is that they do not include a
WIN98 system disk but create a hidden directory with the necessary
files.  Screw up your hard drive and you can just reboot with a
specific key combination and the hard drive will be set up again.
Don't know if I like it or not.

Because of the proprietary nature, I'm not certain if placing XOSL on
the MBR would interfere or not.  I plan to leave the original Fujitsu
10G harddrive set up with WIN98 and add a second 8G harddrive for
booting into Linux.

Any help you can supply would be appreciated.

Derek

Hi there,

I installed WinMe and Win2k on the same partition.
So far so good. Now the bootmanager from Win2k let me chose
which one I want to start.

Since to want to use also Linux, I would like to know
if XOSL can boot directly WinMe and Win2k without
using the bootmanager from Win2k.

If yes, please give me a good description how to do it since I'm only
a small computer fan.


Thanks in adavance


Ralf

--- In xosl@egroups.com, ralf.meuser@t... wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> I installed WinMe and Win2k on the same partition.
> So far so good. Now the bootmanager from Win2k let me chose
> which one I want to start.
>
> Since to want to use also Linux, I would like to know
> if XOSL can boot directly WinMe and Win2k without
> using the bootmanager from Win2k.
>
> If yes, please give me a good description how to do it since I'm
only
> a small computer fan.
>
>
> Thanks in adavance
>
>
> Ralf

Sorry, Ralf, but since you installed them both in the same partition,
XOSL won't be able to help you. XOSL boots partitions, not operating
systems.

You *can* however, use XOSL to boot between "Windows" and "Linux"
then let the "Windows" bootloader (aka, Win2K's) let you choose
between those two O/S's.

If the Win2K bootloader didn't "eat" all the keystrokes in the
keyboard buffer, you could set up a "down-arrow" key to choose WinME
vice Win2K.

But I'm no expert. If I'm wrong here... flame on!!!

Hope this helps,
Brad

> > Since to want to use also Linux, I would like to know
> > if XOSL can boot directly WinMe and Win2k without
> > using the bootmanager from Win2k.
It can.
> > If yes, please give me a good description how to do it since I'm
> only
> > a small computer fan.
Did you read user manual? About Boot keys chapter 5.5? ;-) Why not?


> Sorry, Ralf, but since you installed them both in the same partition,
> XOSL won't be able to help you. XOSL boots partitions, not operating
> systems.
Not true, look up!


> If the Win2K bootloader didn't "eat" all the keystrokes in the
> keyboard buffer, you could set up a "down-arrow" key to choose WinME
> vice Win2K.
True, look up!

HTH :-) filip.

Hi,
Well, no ! I did not manage to get it working.
I have set up a LAN with a Linux server and dual-boot
2K/ME on my desktop PC instead ;-)
Anyhow, I am still interested in xOSL because :
1/ It is ueber cool,
2/ I lost BeOS in the process :-(

Sorry not being able to help anybody out...
Cheers, Guillaume.

--- In xosl@egroups.com, Chris Withers <chrisw@n...> wrote:
> stepheng@p... wrote:
> > Are you using SCSI or IDE?
>
> Adaptec 19160 SCSI adapter.
>
> At the time I also had another adaptec card in the machine, but the
BIOS
> was disabled.
>
> > Does anyone know if Guillaume solved his problem (if so, how?) -
as my
> > box reboots instead of just stopping it eventually gets going if
left
> > alone and I've not found any reason/solution yet.
> >
> > Not an answer Chris, but you're not alone :-)
>
> Yeah, I know, I'm keeping this up in the hope it'll solve some other
> people's problems.
>
> In the end, I gave up with XOSL 'cos it wasn't working and i kindof
rely
> on my machine ;-)
>
> I have Win98 and Win2K both on the same FAT32 (blech!) partition
with
> Win2K doing the boot management :-/
>
> Anyway, hope this info helps...
>
> cheers,
>
> Chris

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Best regard's
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If I can, why you didn't
http://themail.com/ref.htm?ref=1438515

Please do not use this mailing list for spam and commercial promotions.
This list is for the discussion of the use of XOSL and related topics only.

Philip Miller
----- Original Message -----
From: <anderson_mahawarman@...>
To: <xosl@egroups.com>
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 11:35 PM
Subject: [xosl] big money for you....You can get $100000000 every day


> Congratulation.....
> You are the winner....You Can get much dollar every day.......$1 -
> $1000000000
> So...How to get it
> It is easy.....and not difficult....Do you want try it? You can be
> the rich human in the World....you can get much money unlimited....
> lets go to :
>
> http://themail.com/ref.htm?ref=1438515
>
> It is the email address....You must registred in there.....so how
> themail.com pay's you...
> I think you dont belived what i said....but i believe it...
>
> themail.com  will pay you if you read email in your account at
> themail.com, and you must registred.....in
>
> http://themail.com/ref.htm?ref=1438515
>
> after you registered in there....you can get dollar every you read
> your email in your account in there...so if you want get much dollar,
> you must much read your email in there....
> ok....how to get much email every day.....(ex: i can get 500 email
> every day, because i want get much dollar). it is easy....
> 1. You can get much email from your friend, your employment, your
> familiy, etc.
> 2. You can get much email from mailing list from the internet. Ex:
> www.onelist.com
>      but you must registered in the mailing list and you join in the
> group what you want.....
> 3. You get much email from the sponsor of every website in internet
>
> so.....why are you wait now ? let's go ......don't wait.....
> I am waitting you to get much dollar in there ....
>
> Best regard's
> Anderson
> If I can, why you didn't
> http://themail.com/ref.htm?ref=1438515
>
>
>
>
>
>

Philip,

I really agree with you.  Just one thing.

Generally it is good to include relevant parts of an e-mail you are replying
to but please if you are replying to spam don't attach the whole thing (or
any of it for that matter).

I didn't find it that interesting in the first place :).

Thanks

Peter.

PS. "you can get much dollar every day" (That just cracks me up *grin*).


>
> Message: 1
>    Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 20:25:19 -0500
>    From: "Philip Miller" <PMiller502@...>
> Subject: Re: big money for you....You can get $100000000 every day
>
> Please do not use this mailing list for spam and commercial promotions.
> This list is for the discussion of the use of XOSL and related topics
only.
>
> Philip Miller

Good point, thanks.  I'll remember next time I drill someone out in a
mailing list for spamming not to include to spam.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Foley" <pjfoley@...>
To: <xosl@egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 7:11 AM
Subject: [xosl] Re: big money for you....You can get $100000000 every day


> Philip,
>
> I really agree with you.  Just one thing.
>
> Generally it is good to include relevant parts of an e-mail you are
replying
> to but please if you are replying to spam don't attach the whole thing (or
> any of it for that matter).
>
> I didn't find it that interesting in the first place :).
>
> Thanks
>
> Peter.
>
> PS. "you can get much dollar every day" (That just cracks me up *grin*).
>
>
> >
> > Message: 1
> >    Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 20:25:19 -0500
> >    From: "Philip Miller" <PMiller502@...>
> > Subject: Re: big money for you....You can get $100000000 every day
> >
> > Please do not use this mailing list for spam and commercial promotions.
> > This list is for the discussion of the use of XOSL and related topics
> only.
> >
> > Philip Miller
>
>
>
>
>
>

Hi,

    After installing the XOSL software to my PC, I rebooted it.  After
loading the BIOS, the whole screen was blank.  It seemed that the
XOSL boot manager was activated and waited for something.  It lasted
for about a few seconds and my PC started to reboot again.  My PC
continuously to reboot until I pressed the "Shift" key and a menu
came out.  It let me to choose to boot from diff. partitions on my
PC.  My PC is "Dell Precision 220".  Can anybody help me please?

K.C.

First, Thank you for your great boot loader.

Can you tell me what is the minimum card required for xosl during boot process ?

Is a vga card (not svga) enough to see the startup screen ?

Pierre-Marie.

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Yes, XOSL will work on a VGA screen.

JBB



On 8 Nov 2000 09:53:22 -0000, xosl@egroups.com wrote:

>
>There is 1 message in this issue.
>
>Topics in this digest:
>
>      1. Minimum vga card
>           From: "Pierre-Marie DEVIGNE" <pmdevigne@...>
>
>
>________________________________________________________________________
>________________________________________________________________________
>
>Message: 1
>   Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 21:35:35 +0100
>   From: "Pierre-Marie DEVIGNE" <pmdevigne@...>
>Subject: Minimum vga card
>
>
>First, Thank you for your great boot loader.
>
>Can you tell me what is the minimum card required for xosl during boot process
?
>
>Is a vga card (not svga) enough to see the startup screen ?
>
>Pierre-Marie.
>
>
>
>
>
>________________________________________________________________________
>________________________________________________________________________
>
>

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>
>
> First, Thank you for your great boot loader.
>
> Can you tell me what is the minimum card required for xosl during boot process
?
>
> Is a vga card (not svga) enough to see the startup screen ?
>


XOSL requires a display controller that is compliant to
VESA VBE 1.2 or newer. Install will tell you if it is...

Geurt

Hi,

I've been using XOSL for a few months now and am very pleased with it.

I've just installed it onto another PC and have come across 2
problems.

1. As soon as I installed XOSL I rebooted and immediately got a
default boot item (the letter "y" with an acute accent above it) and
a countdown of 10 seconds. I pressed ESC and setup my menu options of
Windows 98 and Linux and tried them out. Both seemed to work ok but a
reboot continued to bring up the default boot item despite checking
that no default was set.

2. The following day I booted up, pressed ESC to get my menu,
selected
Windows98 and was asked for a password. I have not set one and am
totally stumped as I cannot now acccess my Win98 partition.

Any ideas on these problems please? (No one else has access to the
PC).

Details are:

Dell Dimension P166s
8.5 GB hard disc partitioned as approximately:

5.0GB FAT32 (Win98)
1.2GB Linux Ext2
100MB Linux swap
1.5GB FAT32
10MB  XOSL (dedicated)

(The sizes are not exact as I'm at work but I can get the exact info
from home if it's important)

Many thanks to anyone who can help.

Alastair.

I was just wondering if there -would- ever be, or if there -could- ever be
USB mouse support in XOSL.  Now that Linux supports it pretty decently, and
of course 98/2000, I have been tempted to use it for the better refresh
(great for Q3!)  Thanks, and btw, i love this prog.  I don't know how I
didnt know about it before; or for that matter, how a lot of people dont
know about it... you guys need some PR! ;-)  thanks.                 -chris

> I've just installed it onto another PC and have come across 2
> problems.
>
> 1. As soon as I installed XOSL I rebooted and immediately got a
> default boot item (the letter "y" with an acute accent above it) and
> a countdown of 10 seconds. I pressed ESC and setup my menu options of
> Windows 98 and Linux and tried them out. Both seemed to work ok but a
> reboot continued to bring up the default boot item despite checking
> that no default was set.
>
> 2. The following day I booted up, pressed ESC to get my menu,
> selected
> Windows98 and was asked for a password. I have not set one and am
> totally stumped as I cannot now acccess my Win98 partition.

Maybe you have partition overlapping. You can check that with Ranish
Partition Manager if you install it. How did you create them?
For now you can try XOSL bypass. Read user manual at:
6.1 Boot manager bypass

HTH :-) filip.

I'm running PC DOS 7 and OS/2.  It's all worked before, and now I've
installed a dual floppy drive (one of those ones with both 3.5 and a
5.25).  Now when I run any of the OSes in XOSL, they can't access the
flopy drives.  Nothing is hidden.  I can boot from a floppy, I can
FDISK /MBR and once XOSL is gone, I can boot and access the
floppies.  Suggestions?

Thanks,
Adam McNutt

--- In xosl@egroups.com, alastair@c... wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've been using XOSL for a few months now and am very pleased with
it.
>
> I've just installed it onto another PC and have come across 2
> problems.
>
> 1. As soon as I installed XOSL I rebooted and immediately got a
> default boot item (the letter "y" with an acute accent above it)
and
> a countdown of 10 seconds. I pressed ESC and setup my menu options
of
> Windows 98 and Linux and tried them out. Both seemed to work ok but
a
> reboot continued to bring up the default boot item despite checking
> that no default was set.
>
> 2. The following day I booted up, pressed ESC to get my menu,
> selected
> Windows98 and was asked for a password. I have not set one and am
> totally stumped as I cannot now acccess my Win98 partition.
>
> Any ideas on these problems please? (No one else has access to the
> PC).
>
> Details are:
>
> Dell Dimension P166s
> 8.5 GB hard disc partitioned as approximately:
>
> 5.0GB FAT32 (Win98)
> 1.2GB Linux Ext2
> 100MB Linux swap
> 1.5GB FAT32
> 10MB  XOSL (dedicated)
>
> (The sizes are not exact as I'm at work but I can get the exact
info
> from home if it's important)
>
> Many thanks to anyone who can help.
>
> Alastair.


Thanks for your suggestions Filip.

In case anyone else is interested I think it must be something to do
with the combination of hardware and XOSL 1.1.4. I loaded 1.1.4 onto
another hard disc and got the same problem, then tried those HDs in
another PC where they were fine. I then uninstalled it and tried XOSL
1.1.1 in the Dell machine and it worked fine. (I got the same results
installing to both a dedicated partition and a DOS drive.)

Anyway, I shall make do with version 1.1.1 for the time being as it's
still an excellent tool.

Cheers,

Alastair

[snip]

>> 1. As soon as I installed XOSL I rebooted and immediately
>> got a default boot item (the letter "y" with an acute
>> accent above it) and a countdown of 10 seconds. I pressed
>> ESC and setup my menu options of Windows 98 and Linux and
>> tried them out. Both seemed to work ok but a reboot
>> continued to bring up the default boot item despite
>> checking that no default was set.

[snip]

>> Dell Dimension P166s
>> 8.5 GB hard disc partitioned as approximately:
>>
>> 5.0GB FAT32 (Win98)
>> 1.2GB Linux Ext2
>> 100MB Linux swap
>> 1.5GB FAT32
>> 10MB  XOSL (dedicated)
>>
>> (The sizes are not exact as I'm at work but I can get
>> the exact info from home if it's important)
>>

[snip]

Sorry to jump in here unbidden, but isn't there a minimum size for
the partition size for the dedicated partition where XOSL is loaded?
I thought it was minimum of 32MB due to FAT12/FAT16 differences. I'm
trying to find where I read that, but I have yet to find that little
tidbit...

Comments?

Brad

Can I use XOSL to boot my PC in Win ME or Linux? (I don't have any
Win 9x).
I tried to use LILO, but it was a BIG problem to unisntal it. In
fact, I had to erase all the partitions on my HD to erase it.
Thanks,
Iván Bello [ve]

I'm not the expert here, but heres my take.  for starters, winME is win9x...
check the system #.  It's just an update of win98 actually!  Also, to run
winME and Linux, make sure that your Linux install has a boot partition
located before the 1024 cylinder.  you can use several programs to create
and move partitions.  ranish partition manager is included with XOSL and
works great.  I sometimes use a program called partition resizer (find at
download.com) to move partitions.  works great (and is cheaper than
partition magic... ie: free!)  I haven't lost any data with it yet.  Thats
all there is.  The ultimate answer is yes, XOSL is more than capable of
handling winME and Linux (and win2K, and BeOS, and DOS, and
               -chris.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Luis Iván Bello Rengifo" <ivanbello@...>
To: <xosl@egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 11:01 PM
Subject: [xosl] Win ME & Linux


Can I use XOSL to boot my PC in Win ME or Linux? (I don't have any
Win 9x).
I tried to use LILO, but it was a BIG problem to unisntal it. In
fact, I had to erase all the partitions on my HD to erase it.
Thanks,
Iván Bello [ve]

Yes, chris is right!

Yust another hint: If you install Linux, DO NOT put lilo in the MBR.
Use the /root (or better /boot - Partition) for lilo-location.
Then install xosl. Include items for ME and Linux (the partition
above) and you have done it!
Please keep the 1024 barrier in mind or use the latest lilo (this
should have the 1024-problem eliminated)

--- In xosl@egroups.com, "Christopher C. Grant" <chriscgrant@h...>
wrote:
> I'm not the expert here, but heres my take.  for starters, winME is
win9x...
> check the system #.  It's just an update of win98 actually!  Also,
to run
> winME and Linux, make sure that your Linux install has a boot
partition
> located before the 1024 cylinder.  you can use several programs to
create
> and move partitions.  ranish partition manager is included with XOSL
and
> works great.  I sometimes use a program called partition resizer
(find at
> download.com) to move partitions.  works great (and is cheaper than
> partition magic... ie: free!)  I haven't lost any data with it yet.
  Thats
> all there is.  The ultimate answer is yes, XOSL is more than capable
of
> handling winME and Linux (and win2K, and BeOS, and DOS, and
>               -chris.

Mike,

sorry about the delay. This keyboard problem is still urgent. I could
not find a way to solve. But here are some details concerning my case:
1) If you bypass the big-menue (via L-Shift) and then chose an entry,
the keyboard works perfect (even the ranish-part-man) in all cases
Also the bypassing F8 feature for Windows9x works, which hangs
normaly
2) Booting in the command-line-mode of Win9x (with additional
bootkeys
in xosl)i had problems until i initialized the keyboard via
config.sys
and autoexec.bat
3) Sometimes everything works w/out any problems (after
warm-restart),
but very rarely.

Unfortunatly, it seems that no one has that kind of problems, except
us. A long time i hoped Guert has a hint, but.... ;-) (i think he is
very busy)

HTH, csh

--- In xosl@egroups.com, mike@b... wrote:
> > But there is are two little problems:
> > 1) The autoboot function doesn't work
> > 2) All programs started from xosl don't take input.
>
> I also have these problems on my Asus L8400B notebook.
>
> Once XOSL has finished doing it's thing the keyboard is locked
solid
> and only a cold boot will unfreeze the PC.
>
> This behaviour happens with Win98SE and FreeBSD4.1.1
>
> If I remove my autoexec menu, windows will load and then the
keyboard
> is accessable, but if there is any keyboard input required before
the
> OS has loaded then it just hangs there.
>
> If anyone can shed light on this issue I'd be most grateful.

hi,

i'm currently doing research on stuff related to operating systems(i'm a
total newbie in this area), and decided to look at xosl sourcecodes. There
are hardly any documentation on the sourcecodes, heck! hardly even text file
to read for some hints on what each source file do!

ok, thanks for your time, bye!


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Be carefull when installing Xosl under Windows ME.
WinMe don't give you permissions to install something in the root, which is
necessary for Xosl.
The best way to install is to boot using a floppy and install in from the
prompt.

Jo

> -----Original Message-----
> From: xosl@egroups.com [mailto:xosl@egroups.com]
> Sent: 14 November 2000 10:05
> To: xosl@egroups.com
> Subject: [xosl] Digest Number 242
>
>
>
> There are 2 messages in this issue.
>
> Topics in this digest:
>
>       1. Win ME & Linux
>            From: "Luis Iván Bello Rengifo" <ivanbello@...>
>       2. Re: Win ME & Linux
>            From: "Christopher C. Grant" <chriscgrant@...>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 1
>    Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 04:01:43 -0000
>    From: "Luis Iván Bello Rengifo" <ivanbello@...>
> Subject: Win ME & Linux
>
> Can I use XOSL to boot my PC in Win ME or Linux? (I don't have any
> Win 9x).
> I tried to use LILO, but it was a BIG problem to unisntal it. In
> fact, I had to erase all the partitions on my HD to erase it.
> Thanks,
> Iván Bello [ve]
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 2
>    Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 00:07:29 -0500
>    From: "Christopher C. Grant" <chriscgrant@...>
> Subject: Re: Win ME & Linux
>
> I'm not the expert here, but heres my take.  for starters, winME
> is win9x...
> check the system #.  It's just an update of win98 actually!  Also, to run
> winME and Linux, make sure that your Linux install has a boot partition
> located before the 1024 cylinder.  you can use several programs to create
> and move partitions.  ranish partition manager is included with XOSL and
> works great.  I sometimes use a program called partition resizer (find at
> download.com) to move partitions.  works great (and is cheaper than
> partition magic... ie: free!)  I haven't lost any data with it yet.  Thats
> all there is.  The ultimate answer is yes, XOSL is more than capable of
> handling winME and Linux (and win2K, and BeOS, and DOS, and
>               -chris.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Luis Iván Bello Rengifo" <ivanbello@...>
> To: <xosl@egroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 11:01 PM
> Subject: [xosl] Win ME & Linux
>
>
> Can I use XOSL to boot my PC in Win ME or Linux? (I don't have any
> Win 9x).
> I tried to use LILO, but it was a BIG problem to unisntal it. In
> fact, I had to erase all the partitions on my HD to erase it.
> Thanks,
> Iván Bello [ve]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
>
>