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Direct CD burn with dither from 24-bit files?   Message List  
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Re: [XO Wave] Re: Direct CD burn with dither from 24-bit files?


On Jan 10, 2008, at 12:10 PM, Emmett Gray wrote:

> On Wed Jan 9, 2008 7:08 am ((PST)), "Bjorn Roche" bjorn@...
> bejayoharen wrote:
>
> >> 1. It supports direct CD burning from 24-bit split-stereo or
> >> interleaved source files, with a choice of dither applied at the
> burn,
> >> leaving the source files untouched.
>
> You provided a lengthy and informative answer, which I've snipped
> because it didn't answer my basic question: If you have a 24-bit (or
> higher depth) source, can XO Wave burn a CD directly from this source
> with choice of dither, or must you create a 16-bit master file first?
>

I'm not sure exactly what you're asking. You can certainly source 24
bit files, but, of course, you can't burn 24 bits to a CD. XO Wave
does, by default, dither to 16 bits, and, at the moment, it does,
unfortunately, require creating a master file rather than burning
straight to a CD, but this is a background process, so it's less
workflow intrusive than it sounds. I hope that answers your question.
We're planning to address that in the future, but so far there have
been very few complaints.

> >> 2. When loading a split-stereo or interleaved audio file into
> your CD
> >> item list, you can select the whole file or a Pro-Tools-defined
> region
> >> in it as the item to load.
>
> Again, a comprehensive and informative answer left out one crucial
> point for me: does XO Wave recognize Pro-Tools-created regions? I
> don't see how it could, since Pro Tools doesn't create stereo files.
> Therefore XO must convert (or Pro Tools must export) the source
> files, which will lose the region information. Of course you could
> export regions as (stereo) files from Pro Tools. But that's exactly
> what I don't want to have to do and don't need to do in my current
> workflow.
>

XO Does not read PT regions. Why not sequence in XO Wave? The editing
model is very similar to PT. Of course there are some differences
(real-time cross fades, eg). Try out the free version and see for
yourself. Alternatively, you could export the whole PT session as a 16
bit stereo file and import it into XO Wave, mark CD Tracks and burn
with dither turned off.

> I'd like to move past having to keep an OS9 machine running with
> no-longer-manufactured SCSI CD burners, which MasterList requires.
> I'm looking for a replacement. But until someone comes up with
> another application which has the ability to burn CDs directly from
> Pro Tools regions in 24-bit split-stereo files, which allows me to do
> all my CD sequencing in Pro Tools and then burn without an
> intermediate (export/import) step, I'll keep looking.
>
> Just a side note to explain my workflow: if my source sessions are at
> 48k or higher sample rate, I just import the desired track(s) into a
> 44.1 24-bit Pro Tools session, which preserves all the region
> information in the original session. So I do all my mastering at the
> original sample rate, then import into a 44.1 session as the last
> process before creating a CD playlist, which is then as simple as
> dragging regions or audio files into the MasterList item pane, which
> defaults to having each item as a CD track, although of course you
> can add, slide, and remove track IDs at will subsequently.
>

I'm not sure I understand, but it sounds like you have a system. I
think the best thing is for you to download XO Wave Free and try it
out for a bit. I think if you experiment a bit you can find a process
that works at least as well as masterlist, even if it's not sequencing/
mastering in XO.

>
> >
> >Are you sure you downloaded me main documentation and not just, for
> >example, the "cheat sheet"? The main documentation is well over 100
> >pages.
>
> I did! I swear I did! :-) But I couldn't find the answers to my
> primary questions in a few minutes of reading. I'll be red-faced if
> you can point me to pages where points 1 and 2 were addressed.
>


I'm sorry you couldn't find this information. If you've got a 10.4 or
10.5 machine you could always download the free version and give it a
spin.

bjorn

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Bjorn Roche
XO Wave
Digital Audio Production and Post-Production Software
http://www.xowave.com
http://blog.bjornroche.com
http://myspace.com/xowave





Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:21 pm

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My current burning software (Digidesign's ancient but still wonderful MasterList CD, which I use in preference to Peak Pro 5 which I also own) has the...
emtgray
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Jan 9, 2008
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emtgray, I've never actually used masterlist, but you've asked some great questions. Before I answer them, I should be upfront about a what I consider XO...
Bjorn Roche
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Jan 9, 2008
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One or two clarifications: ... Many, if not most, accented characters can be created in XO Wave, it's just a few that are broken. ... When I say XO Wave does...
Bjorn Roche
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On Wed Jan 9, 2008 7:08 am ((PST)), "Bjorn Roche" bjorn@... ... You provided a lengthy and informative answer, which I've snipped because it didn't...
Emmett Gray
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... I'm not sure exactly what you're asking. You can certainly source 24 bit files, but, of course, you can't burn 24 bits to a CD. XO Wave does, by default,...
Bjorn Roche
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On Thu Jan 10, 2008 1:21 pm ((PST)), "Bjorn Roche" bjorn@... ... <snip> ... People who don't use your application will not complain. But I can tell you...
Emmett Gray
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Emmet, First off, I'm very sorry my comments sounded dismissive of your suggestions -- that's not how I intended them. In fact, I had already added your...
Bjorn Roche
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