On Jan 21, 2007, at 4:19 PM, gmilmei wrote:

> --- In xowave@yahoogroups.com, Bjorn Roche <bjorn@...> wrote:
> >> I should mention that the most likely cause of this error is
> that you
> > are combining different versions of XO Wave components. For example,
> > an old XOmux and a newer XOengine. Usually, the installer cleans the
> > old installation out and completely replaces it, but if you moved
> any
> > program components by hand, the installer won't have known about it,
> > and you'll have to delete the old stuff manually because you must
> > keep all program components at the same version.
> >
> > If you've forgotten where you put things, you can try using commands
> > such as:
> >
> > locate xo
> > locate XOengine
> > locate xowave
> > locate XOmux
> >
> > to help find things.
> It is a completely fresh install, with no previous components.
> However, I removed everyone of the supplied libraries except
> libjack-0.100.0.so.0, since on my system (Fedora Core 6) jack is
> at version 0.102.

I will send you (privately) a build of XOengine that will tell me
what arguments it's receiving. If you send me the output from that, I
should be able to figure out what's going on.

	 bjorn


-----------------------------
Bjorn Roche
XO Wave
Digital Audio Production and Post-Production Software
http://www.xowave.com
http://blog.bjornroche.com
http://myspace.com/xowave

--- In xowave@yahoogroups.com, Bjorn Roche <bjorn@...> wrote:
>> I should mention that the most likely cause of this error is that you
> are combining different versions of XO Wave components. For example,
> an old XOmux and a newer XOengine. Usually, the installer cleans the
> old installation out and completely replaces it, but if you moved any
> program components by hand, the installer won't have known about it,
> and you'll have to delete the old stuff manually because you must
> keep all program components at the same version.
>
> If you've forgotten where you put things, you can try using commands
> such as:
>
> locate xo
> locate XOengine
> locate xowave
> locate XOmux
>
> to help find things.
It is a completely fresh install, with no previous components.
However, I removed everyone of the supplied libraries except
libjack-0.100.0.so.0, since on my system (Fedora Core 6) jack is
at version 0.102.

On Jan 21, 2007, at 9:49 AM, Bjorn Roche wrote:

>
> On Jan 20, 2007, at 8:57 PM, gmilmei wrote:
>
> > The version is XOWave-Linux-0.19.3b-2007-01-20.
> > The XOengine.log file shows the following:
> >
> > XOmux: CD Record detected.
> > XOmux: SoX detected.
> > The XO Wave multiplex server is active.
> > You may terminate it with Ctrl-C.
> > It is best to close all clients first.
> > XOmux: connection requested from 127.0.0.1
> > XOmux: Received connection from a client at 127.0.0.1 port 33189
> > XOmux: 1 client(s) connected.
> > XOmux: will execute XOengine.
> > XOengine Build on Sat Jan 20 13:02:30 EST 2007. PID: 18334
> > XOengine is not a user accessible program. Try XOmux.
> > XOengine : safequitting pid 18334
> > XOengine : socket shut down.
> > XOengine : quitting.
> > XOmux: Client disconnected.
> > XOmux: Details (1):
> > signals recieved : 0
> > Normal Exit.
> > XOmux: Now allowing another interactive connection.
> > XOmux: 0 remaining active connections.
>
> That's very peculiar: you shouldn't see "XOengine is not a user
> accessible program" when XOengine is launched by XOmux. What distro
> are you using? did you do the normal install? Anything unusual about
> your system or shell? Can you send me the results of:
>
> locate XOengine
>
> and
>
> find /usr/local/xowave/

I should mention that the most likely cause of this error is that you
are combining different versions of XO Wave components. For example,
an old XOmux and a newer XOengine. Usually, the installer cleans the
old installation out and completely replaces it, but if you moved any
program components by hand, the installer won't have known about it,
and you'll have to delete the old stuff manually because you must
keep all program components at the same version.

If you've forgotten where you put things, you can try using commands
such as:

locate xo
locate XOengine
locate xowave
locate XOmux

to help find things.

HTH,

	 bjorn

-----------------------------
Bjorn Roche
XO Wave
Digital Audio Production and Post-Production Software
http://www.xowave.com
http://blog.bjornroche.com
http://myspace.com/xowave

On Jan 20, 2007, at 8:57 PM, gmilmei wrote:

> The version is XOWave-Linux-0.19.3b-2007-01-20.
> The XOengine.log file shows the following:
>
> XOmux: CD Record detected.
> XOmux: SoX detected.
> The XO Wave multiplex server is active.
> You may terminate it with Ctrl-C.
> It is best to close all clients first.
> XOmux: connection requested from 127.0.0.1
> XOmux: Received connection from a client at 127.0.0.1 port 33189
> XOmux: 1 client(s) connected.
> XOmux: will execute XOengine.
> XOengine Build on Sat Jan 20 13:02:30 EST 2007. PID: 18334
> XOengine is not a user accessible program. Try XOmux.
> XOengine : safequitting pid 18334
> XOengine : socket shut down.
> XOengine : quitting.
> XOmux: Client disconnected.
> XOmux: Details (1):
> signals recieved : 0
> Normal Exit.
> XOmux: Now allowing another interactive connection.
> XOmux: 0 remaining active connections.

That's very peculiar: you shouldn't see "XOengine is not a user
accessible program" when XOengine is launched by XOmux. What distro
are you using? did you do the normal install? Anything unusual about
your system or shell? Can you send me the results of:

locate XOengine

and

find /usr/local/xowave/



	 bjorn


-----------------------------
Bjorn Roche
XO Wave
Digital Audio Production and Post-Production Software
http://www.xowave.com
http://blog.bjornroche.com
http://myspace.com/xowave

The version is XOWave-Linux-0.19.3b-2007-01-20.
The XOengine.log file shows the following:

XOmux: CD Record detected.
XOmux: SoX detected.
The XO Wave multiplex server is active.
You may terminate it with Ctrl-C.
It is best to close all clients first.
XOmux: connection requested from 127.0.0.1
XOmux: Received connection from a client at 127.0.0.1 port 33189
XOmux: 1 client(s) connected.
XOmux: will execute XOengine.
XOengine Build on Sat Jan 20 13:02:30 EST 2007. PID: 18334
XOengine is not a user accessible program. Try XOmux.
XOengine  : safequitting pid 18334
XOengine  : socket shut down.
XOengine  : quitting.
XOmux: Client disconnected.
XOmux: Details (1):
         signals recieved     : 0
         Normal Exit.
XOmux: Now allowing another interactive connection.
XOmux: 0 remaining active connections.

XO Wavers:

	 You can now download XO Wave 0.19.3 from www.xowave.com. It features
some bug-fixes, as well as autosave and improved audio unit and
volume parameter changes. Please let me know what you think!

	 bjorn

-----------------------------
Bjorn Roche
XO Wave
Digital Audio Production and Post-Production Software
http://www.xowave.com
http://blog.bjornroche.com
http://myspace.com/xowave

XO Wavers:

	 XO Wave 0.19.2 is now available from xowave.com. Aside from some bug-
fixes, this release adds multi-lingual CD Text support. There are
also some audio unit changes and some new preferences options under
the new "New Sessions" tab. You'll also notice some keyboard
navigation of the GUI has been improved, especially in dialog boxes.

	 Enjoy!


XO Wave Roadmap

	 Some of you may be interested in the "roadmap" for the next few XO
Wave versions. At this point, there has been a fair bit of demand for
a 1.0 with the current set of features because many of them, such as
CD burning, simply aren't available elsewhere. This means that from
now until 1.0, XO Wave releases will focus entirely on bugfixes. That
doesn't mean that there's no room for new features, but it does mean
anything big will have to wait until 1.1.

	 So what's planned for 1.1? That depends on you. Right now, the
biggest requests have been for DDP and native AU GUIs, so that's most
likely, but maybe you'd like something else as well. Maybe Blue-book
mastering? New session templates? Archive/consolidation/track
freezing? More built-in effects? Send me an e-mail: bjorn@...

	 bjorn

-----------------------------
Bjorn Roche
XO Wave
Digital Audio Production and Post-Production Software
http://www.xowave.com
http://blog.bjornroche.com
http://myspace.com/xowave

On Dec 22, 2006, at 12:56 PM, chriskrowchuk wrote:

> Is xowave a good choice for this type of editing? I like the video
> integration and the product
> sounds promising. What does everybody use to make great sounding
> loops?
>

XO Wave is more for production than composition, so it doesn't have
much in the way of looping (it has pro-tools style duplicate copy/cut
and superior cross-fades, but normally when people talk about loops
they mean something like Ableton Live). I doubt that you'll find a
single tool with both good looping and good video sync, but I could
be wrong about that.

	 bjorn

-----------------------------
Bjorn Roche
XO Wave
Digital Audio Production and Post-Production Software
http://www.xowave.com
http://blog.bjornroche.com
http://myspace.com/xowave

Is xowave a good choice for this type of editing? I like the video integration
and the product
sounds promising. What does everybody use to make great sounding loops?

XO Wavers,

	 XO Wave version 0.19.1 is available now from http://www.xowave.com.
This release fixes several bugs, including one that caused fade in
and out points to be hidden and un-editable in the fade window. It
also fixes some critical bugs that caused crashes on some systems, so
I strongly recommend you download this free update.

	 bjorn

-----------------------------
Bjorn Roche
XO Wave
Digital Audio Production and Post-Production Software
http://www.xowave.com
http://blog.bjornroche.com
http://myspace.com/xowave

XO Wavers,

	 I'm very excited to announce the release of 0.19.0. It's really a
dazzling upgrade, not just in appearance but also in features, and
ease of use. In fact, I had to use HTML e-mail for the first time to
get the idea across of just how cool this release is.

Download it now from: http://www.xowave.com/downloads.shtml

Some of the dizzying number of new XO Wave features include:

* Gain Matrix Effect: for tons of gain, for swapping channels or
inverting phase, for MS decoding, for stereo widening, for mono
compatibility checking.... It's the swiss army knife of gain!
* Envelope Generator Effect: for ducking, auto-wah, and other cool
dynamic effects. You can invent your own dynamically controlled
effects using the envelope generator. It's so cool I can't even put
it in words -- you'll just have to play around with it. It's
documented here: http://www.xowave.com/doc/effect/envelope-
generator.shtml
* Support for Sassafras K2 KeyServer: Academics go Woo-Hoo!
* Improved main meter: now you can see it big!
* Ripple and Query now work with Memory locations, including CD Track
Markers. Very groovy!
* Improved pause behavior: No Kidding. Stop. It's Great. Stop.
* Improved and unified import options, so no more confusing "import
as playlist" nonsense or funny looking dialogs.
* And a wildly improved look. Positively beautiful, and also way faster!

There are also some site improvements:

I've added two interview/testimonials, one with Pedro Carneiro, a
classical composer and percussionist, and the other is with Randall
Frazier, president of Massive Music America, which is a music
promotions company. Randall is also an engineer, and uses XO for live
recordings.

The docs are easier to navigate, printable, and more extensive.


As always, please let me know what you think!

	 bjorn

-----------------------------
Bjorn Roche
XO Wave
Digital Audio Production and Post-Production Software
http://www.xowave.com
http://blog.bjornroche.com
http://myspace.com/xowave




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Hey all,

	 I've done some bug fixing and have a new prerelease for 0.19.0:

http://www.xowave.com/prerelease/

This fixes some serious issues with fades, crashing on startup, and
ripple all, and also has a few minor improvements to layout and so
on. I'm not calling it beta yet, but it's that much closer.

enjoy!

	 bjorn

-----------------------------
Bjorn Roche
XO Wave
Digital Audio Production and Post-Production Software
http://www.xowave.com
http://blog.bjornroche.com
http://myspace.com/xowave

XO Wavers:

I am pleased to announce that a mac-only prerelease of the upcoming
0.19.0 version of XO Wave is available now. Before I tell you how and
where to get it, I need to tell you one quick thing: It's not well
tested. Really: I don't even consider this beta-quality yet, which is
why I'm announcing it here and not publicly. If you are working on
something import, please, keep using the old version!

But I also know some of you are itching to get your hands on the new
prerelease, so you can find that prerelease here: http://
www.xowave.com/prerelease/

Please tell me what you think and I will try to update it whenever I
make substantial progress towards 0.19.0. I won't make lots more
announcements, though, so check for the little update icon in the
transport area and go back to the above URL if it turns red.

Some of the dizzying number of new XO Wave features include:

* Gain Matrix Effect: for tons of gain, for swapping channels or
inverting phase, for MS decoding, for stereo widening, for mono
compatibility checking.... It's the swiss army knife of gain!
* Envelope Generator Effect: for ducking, auto-wah, and other cool
dynamic effects. You can invent your own dynamically controlled
effects using the envelope generator. It's so cool I can't even put
it in words -- you'll just have to play around with it.
* Support for Sassafras K2 KeyServer. (Academics go Woo-Hoo!)
* Improved main meter. (now you can see it big!)
* ripple and query now work with Memory locations, including CD Track
Markers. Very groovy!
* improved pause behavior. No Kidding. Stop. It's Great. Stop.
* improved and unified import options, so no more confusing "import
as playlist" nonsense.
* And a wildly improved look. Wow! No really. Take a look:


   ----------


-----------------------------
Bjorn Roche
XO Wave
Digital Audio Production and Post-Production Software
http://www.xowave.com
http://blog.bjornroche.com
http://myspace.com/xowave




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

XO Wavers,

 	 I am very pleased to announce XO Wave version 0.18.3. This version
has lots of new features including the much requested "ripple editing" and
Query editing modes, as well as some CD burning enhancements and LOTS of
little things. So many little things that I might well have called this XO
Wave version 0.19. But I didn't.

 	 One more little thing: XO Wave is now Universal. A full change
list follows my signature, so you can read through it if that suits you.
Personally, I recommend downloading it from the new and improved site:

http://www.xowave.com/downloads.shtml


Please let me know what you think!

 	 bjorn

-------------
Bjorn Roche

XO Wave
Audio Production and Post-Production Software for Mac OS X
http://www.xowave.com

Changes:
-type and spelling fixes
-improved connection host checking code in XOmux, should enable support
   for XO Wave in IPV6 locales.
-purchaser enhancements
-fixed bug that prevented edit and mix window from being deiconified from
   menu options when they were the only window present
-reconnects when certain AU preferences are changed, so manual
   reconnection is no longer required.
-some changes to improve expansion/disclosure arrow behavior
-fixed trim edit so that it adjust playback bounds when follow playback is
   on. ditto with dragging across tracks and from region bin.
-fixed minor bug that may have used input device latency for the output
   device under very rare circumstances.
-reviewed and improved keyboard shortcuts for goto end, goto start and
   extend selection to start and end. Also modified return, so that it stops
   and resets to the current playback bounds when playing, and resets to the
   entire session when stopped.
-Menu item called "spacebar resets playback" renamed to "Spacebar Pauses
   Playback" to correctly reflect its function.
-Menu for select channel in channel strip changed to selection list.
-fixed some problems with systems that are missing input or output
   devices.
-fixed serious problem when deleting tracks and routing channels maps
   changed.
-added ability to open sessions even when files are missing (internal use
   only)
-XO Wave now saves last exporter used when exporting to "any QuickTime
   time" until XO Wave is quit.
-retooled preview so it works more reliably
-command-T was assigned to both import iTunes playlist and Trim down. Now
   it is assigned only to trim down, so that it works reliably and is shown
   in the menu.
-fixed problems with keyboard control in playback settings window.
-upgraded purchases addresses some common purchaser issues.
-users are warned when creating a mono track.
-Aux send now resembles Volume.
-fixed weird shapes on old stereo aux and old volume sliders.
-fixed bug that created bad overviews when recording mono onto a stereo
   track.
-removed broken help option from some effects.
-state of edit and mix windows saved and restored even if they are hidden.
-fixed bug that causes clicking on start playback arrow to jump to the
   end.
-added copy from Region Bin. (for paste into tracks or text editor)
-fixed bug that prevented creating multiple cross-fades when the first
   region started at the start of the session.
- blinking LED when an offline operation is going or has just been
   started.
- fixed bug that caused crash when resizing tracks in the cross-fade
   window.
- added keyboard shortcuts and time menu items for setting current
   playback start and stop points.
- fixed bug with renaming region found in search tree. needs testing.
- addressed two drawing glitches: 1. previously, regions were sometimes
   not draw when zoomed way out. 2. weird/inaccurate waveform drawing when
   nudging regions.
- session overview no longer views more than 10% past the session end.
- alt/option + move replicates to target instead of moving. Works with
   ripple and query.
- XO Wave Free produces CD TEXT that says "Created with XO Wave Free"
- added high quality CD Burn verification that is not based on
   checksumming or the possibility of missing zeros.
- Pop-up window reminds users every 5 days when a new release is available
   and makes it easy to download an update.

On Tue, 29 Aug 2006, dpg19 wrote:

> Oops. I forgot an important step in my previous comment. It should read:
> "...double click between the marks, then hit "delete" (or cut) and have
> the pieces snap together.

I'm not 100% sure I understand your question, but it sounds like you
really have two issues, creating a selection to delete and "rippling" it
while you delete. In the current version, there are lots of ways to create
a selection, including the bracket keys, which work nicely with the memory
locations, especially if you've assigned keyboard shortcuts to them. You
can also Shift-select to modify a selection, and so on. You can also store
and recall selections as memory locations.

Once you have a selection, 0.18.2 won't automatically "shuffle" or ripple
for you, you'll have to manually select to the end (with shift-slash) and
move things to cover up what you want to delete or create blank space.

In 0.18.3, you'll just have to make sure ripple editing is on.

Hope That Helps,

 	 bjorn

-------------
Bjorn Roche

XO Wave
Audio Production and Post-Production Software for Mac OS X
http://www.xowave.com

Oops. I forgot an important step in my previous comment. It should read:
"...double click between the marks, then hit "delete" (or cut) and have
the pieces snap together.


--- In xowave@yahoogroups.com, "dpg19" <dgmisc@...> wrote:
>
> Wow. Thanks so much for the quick reply. That's very encouraging to
> know that you're working on that particular feature. Actually,
> ProTools calls it "Shuffle" mode. What XO does is what ProTools calls
> "Slip" mode.
>
> I'm still not understanding the marker thing. I was hoping to just
> listen to the sound, find my edit point, type a key to place an "in"
> marker, find my other edit point, type a key to place an "out" market,
> double click between the marks and have the pieces snap together. In
> theory, it seems easy, but I'm an operator, not a programmer.
>
> Thanks again for all your work.
>
> --- In xowave@yahoogroups.com, Bjorn Roche bjorn@ wrote:
> >
> > dpg19,
> >
> >   Thanks for your question, and thanks for using the mailing list.
> > I've got some answers for you below....
> >
> > On Tue, 29 Aug 2006, dpg19 wrote:
> >
> > > I sent this in the Feedback section, but then saw the comment
about
> > > using this mailing list, so I'll repeat it here for others to
benefit.
> > > ------
> > >
> > > I was so excited when I saw this program as I had been using
ProTools
> > > Free which is not available for Mac OS X. Yet that joy turned to
> > > disappointment when it appeared that the most important thing I
will
> > > ask of this, doesn't seem to be doable. Specifically,
> > >
> > > When I want to cut out a piece of audio, the "cut" function should
> > > delete the highlighted piece and automatically join the remaining
> > > pieces, just as a word processor would do with text. What XO does
is
> > > simply delete the sound and keep the space, which would be more
like a
> > > "clear" or "erase" function. Then I have to manually slide the
pieces
> > > together. This is great if I want to overlap a piece of music, but
is
> > > inaccurate and wastes valuable time for simple editing.
> >
> > This has been written and is currently being tested for the next
> release,
> > due out very soon. I believe ProTools calls this "Slip" editing. XO
> Wave
> > will call it ripple editing, but it's the same idea.
> >
> > > Also, is there a way to place markers and then highlight and
delete
> > > the area between markers or do I have to click and drag over the
wave
> > > to edit?
> >
> > You could jump to the first marker and type '[' to set the selection
> > start, then jump to the second marker and type ']' to set the
selection
> > end. You can assign keyboard shortcuts to the markers in the memory
> > locations manager window, which makes that easier.
> >
> > > I realize this is beta and I commend you for what you've
accomplished
> > > thus far. I only hope that these options are there and I'm just
not
> > > seeing them.
> >
> > Almost all the features are in, but that's a big one. Stay tuned to
> this
> > mailing list for an announcement of the next release, and thanks for
> your
> > question/suggestion!
> >
> >
> >   bjorn
> >
> > -------------
> > Bjorn Roche
> >
> > XO Wave
> > Audio Production and Post-Production Software for Mac OS X
> > http://www.xowave.com
> >
>



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Wow. Thanks so much for the quick reply. That's very encouraging to
know that you're working on that particular feature. Actually,
ProTools calls it "Shuffle" mode. What XO does is what ProTools calls
"Slip" mode.

I'm still not understanding the marker thing. I was hoping to just
listen to the sound, find my edit point, type a key to place an "in"
marker, find my other edit point, type a key to place an "out" market,
double click between the marks and have the pieces snap together. In
theory, it seems easy, but I'm an operator, not a programmer.

Thanks again for all your work.

--- In xowave@yahoogroups.com, Bjorn Roche <bjorn@...> wrote:
>
> dpg19,
>
>   Thanks for your question, and thanks for using the mailing list.
> I've got some answers for you below....
>
> On Tue, 29 Aug 2006, dpg19 wrote:
>
> > I sent this in the Feedback section, but then saw the comment about
> > using this mailing list, so I'll repeat it here for others to benefit.
> > ------
> >
> > I was so excited when I saw this program as I had been using ProTools
> > Free which is not available for Mac OS X. Yet that joy turned to
> > disappointment when it appeared that the most important thing I will
> > ask of this, doesn't seem to be doable. Specifically,
> >
> > When I want to cut out a piece of audio, the "cut" function should
> > delete the highlighted piece and automatically join the remaining
> > pieces, just as a word processor would do with text. What XO does is
> > simply delete the sound and keep the space, which would be more like a
> > "clear" or "erase" function. Then I have to manually slide the pieces
> > together. This is great if I want to overlap a piece of music, but is
> > inaccurate and wastes valuable time for simple editing.
>
> This has been written and is currently being tested for the next
release,
> due out very soon. I believe ProTools calls this "Slip" editing. XO
Wave
> will call it ripple editing, but it's the same idea.
>
> > Also, is there a way to place markers and then highlight and delete
> > the area between markers or do I have to click and drag over the wave
> > to edit?
>
> You could jump to the first marker and type '[' to set the selection
> start, then jump to the second marker and type ']' to set the selection
> end. You can assign keyboard shortcuts to the markers in the memory
> locations manager window, which makes that easier.
>
> > I realize this is beta and I commend you for what you've accomplished
> > thus far. I only hope that these options are there and I'm just not
> > seeing them.
>
> Almost all the features are in, but that's a big one. Stay tuned to
this
> mailing list for an announcement of the next release, and thanks for
your
> question/suggestion!
>
>
>   bjorn
>
> -------------
> Bjorn Roche
>
> XO Wave
> Audio Production and Post-Production Software for Mac OS X
> http://www.xowave.com
>

dpg19,

 	 Thanks for your question, and thanks for using the mailing list.
I've got some answers for you below....

On Tue, 29 Aug 2006, dpg19 wrote:

> I sent this in the Feedback section, but then saw the comment about
> using this mailing list, so I'll repeat it here for others to benefit.
> ------
>
> I was so excited when I saw this program as I had been using ProTools
> Free which is not available for Mac OS X. Yet that joy turned to
> disappointment when it appeared that the most important thing I will
> ask of this, doesn't seem to be doable. Specifically,
>
> When I want to cut out a piece of audio, the "cut" function should
> delete the highlighted piece and automatically join the remaining
> pieces, just as a word processor would do with text. What XO does is
> simply delete the sound and keep the space, which would be more like a
> "clear" or "erase" function. Then I have to manually slide the pieces
> together. This is great if I want to overlap a piece of music, but is
> inaccurate and wastes valuable time for simple editing.

This has been written and is currently being tested for the next release,
due out very soon. I believe ProTools calls this "Slip" editing. XO Wave
will call it ripple editing, but it's the same idea.

> Also, is there a way to place markers and then highlight and delete
> the area between markers or do I have to click and drag over the wave
> to edit?

You could jump to the first marker and type '[' to set the selection
start, then jump to the second marker and type ']' to set the selection
end. You can assign keyboard shortcuts to the markers in the memory
locations manager window, which makes that easier.

> I realize this is beta and I commend you for what you've accomplished
> thus far. I only hope that these options are there and I'm just not
> seeing them.

Almost all the features are in, but that's a big one. Stay tuned to this
mailing list for an announcement of the next release, and thanks for your
question/suggestion!


 	 bjorn

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Bjorn Roche

XO Wave
Audio Production and Post-Production Software for Mac OS X
http://www.xowave.com

I sent this in the Feedback section, but then saw the comment about
using this mailing list, so I'll repeat it here for others to benefit.
------

I was so excited when I saw this program as I had been using ProTools
Free which is not available for Mac OS X. Yet that joy turned to
disappointment when it appeared that the most important thing I will
ask of this, doesn't seem to be doable. Specifically,

When I want to cut out a piece of audio, the "cut" function should
delete the highlighted piece and automatically join the remaining
pieces, just as a word processor would do with text. What XO does is
simply delete the sound and keep the space, which would be more like a
"clear" or "erase" function. Then I have to manually slide the pieces
together. This is great if I want to overlap a piece of music, but is
inaccurate and wastes valuable time for simple editing.

Also, is there a way to place markers and then highlight and delete
the area between markers or do I have to click and drag over the wave
to edit?

I realize this is beta and I commend you for what you've accomplished
thus far. I only hope that these options are there and I'm just not
seeing them.

Thanks.

XO Wavers,

 	 I don't usually e-mail about individual bugs, but 0.18.2 has
become pretty stable, so you may have more confidence when working with
it. A bug that came to my attention recently, however, could stop you in
your tracks, so I want you to know about it.

 	 It won't affect most of you, but if have a mono, non-source tracks
(ie a mono aux send or sub-mix) in your session, it's possible for your
session to become corrupt when you delete that track. Most folks don't use
mono auxiliary sends or sub-mixes, so this should only affect a few
people, but if are one of those folks, be aware that if the Audio Engine
starts complaining about parameter mismatches or won't open on a particular
session, you've probably been victim of this bug.

 	 The good news is: 1. there will be a fix in 0.18.3, and 2. XO Wave
support will fix any corrupt session files you send in very short order.
Just send an e-mail with your .xo file attached to support@..., and
say what happens when you try to open the file. We appreciate any info you
can give about how it happened, as it may provide information about
something we missed.

Good luck to everyone!

 	 bjorn

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Bjorn Roche
Check out my CD Mastering Software
for Mac OS X : http://www.xowave.com

XO Wavers:

 	 XO Wave version 0.18.2 (Beta) is now available from
www.xowave.com. The biggest changes involve some rewrites to the Audio
Unit code, so XO Wave should work with more audio units and be more stable
even in the presence of poorly behaved audio units. In addition,
there are some major improvements to CD Text and CD sub-code data. A
full change-list is below.

 	 Please let us know how it goes!

 	 bjorn

-------------
Bjorn Roche
Check out my CD Mastering Software
for Mac OS X : http://www.xowave.com


Changes:
- fixed bug that allowed locked regions to be "trimmed over" with a multi-track
trim edit.
- increased wait time for reconnections in XOmux to prevent AE disconnects.
- provided work-around for bug that caused NPE when trimming a region.
- did some cleanup of the AU initialization code. Also increased debugging info.
- added preference for AU readout hold time
- added preference for AU meter update interval
- improved string shortening. should work reasonably well for romance languages
and just truncate for other languages.
- increased font size of parameter text field.
- fixed a few bugs related to CD Text ISRC and MCNs
- menu item Offline Manager renamed to Offline Operations Manager
- made default height limit for AU 200, rather than no-limit.
- added ability to skip known bad Audio Units.
- fixed drop-down display in AU.
- improved reconnect performance by reducing the amount of AU data acquired in
AE startup. this should also fix problems associated with AE crashes.
- postponed getting preset AU info -- seems to improve compatibility
- improved preset restoration code. LPGE and betabugs crayon filter no longer
crash when restoring presets.
- Audio Units can now be chosen directly from the insert effect dialog.
- made sure "CD Text" was used in place of "CDText" and "CD-Text"
- fixed pre-roll bug.
- added option for either putting spots of silence in the audio units or
bypassing them. Updated a corresponding error message and incremented ignore
messages.
- fixed bug with undo/redo of plug-in presets.
- added support for metering more than 32 parameters (required for a few obscure
AUs)
- cursor in edit window's new track area is now Vertical beam selection tool,
which corresponds correctly to its function.
- fixed bug that causes crash when deleting a track while showing automation.
- added ability to set audio unit render quality, for audio units that support
it.
- disabled altiverb 5 automation as it is buggy.
- fixed bug that allowed locked regions to be over-written when copying across
tracks or from the region bin.

Hey all,

 	 XO Wave 0.18.1 (Beta) is now available. It has fixes for 3 serious
bugs that caused crashes and some improved AU support. Extra thanks to
everyone who reported a bug or crash!

 	 bjorn

-------------
Bjorn Roche
Check out my CD Mastering Software
for Mac OS X : http://www.xowave.com

Hey all,

 	 XO Wave 0.18.1 (Beta) is now available. It has fixes for 3 serious bugs
that caused crashes and some improved AU support. Extra thanks to everyone who
reported a bug or crash!

 	 bjorn

-------------
Bjorn Roche
Check out my CD Mastering Software
for Mac OS X : http://www.xowave.com

Hey all,

 	 You can now download XO Wave version 0.18.0 (Beta) from
www.xowave.com. This is the last major release scheduled before 1.0 and
there are over fifty new features and bugfixes in this release. Almost all
the new features were suggested by users and they include:

- Support for Audio Units.
- Support for CD Text, including ISRC, MCN/UPC and barcode generation.
- Support for file and session metadata.
- Improved pre-/post- roll support.
- Improved ruler and edit window functionality.
- lots of ther things (full changes listed below)


 	 Enjoy, and, as always, please let me know if you have any trouble!


 		 bjorn

-------------
Bjorn Roche
Check out my CD Mastering Software
for Mac OS X : http://www.xowave.com


- made a few editing preferences non-expert.
- fixed bug that did not correctly disable buttons when effects view is
collapsed
- added more debugging for mysterious exception (AIOOBE with showeffect helper)
- fixed bug that sometimes showed track auto-muted after deleting a soloed
track.
- small fix for problem with missing input or output hardware. Should fix
    problem with mac minis. (Songs for Bugs Fix!)
- added warning when trying to open a protected movie.
- fixed problems when changing track routing to a track with different number of
channels.
- improved display of import errors, especially when importing multiple files,
    and also improved the likelihood that copy-protected files are identified and
    the right message is passed to the user.
- fixed bug that caused "Burn Another" dialog to appear twice.
- added support for a variety of text elements associated with session and
    files. File text is imported either from file metadata or iTunes, and
    tracked. CD track markers automatically inherit this info when created
    using the auto-create feature of Memory Locations window, or from
    the create CD mastering session wizard.
- implemented ISRC and UPC code burning, and added experimental support for
    UPC bar-code generation in both UPC-A and EAN-13 formats.
- now exports memory locations to HTML, rather than tab-delimited, which
    improves character-set support.
- implemented support for CD-Text on burners that support it. Also requires OS X
    10.4.
- fixed bug that caused high load during CD Burn.
- revamped preview window to give playback preview and make it prettier
    and better layed out.
- fixed bug in Trim Down, which may have caused end of session not to be
    updated.
- fixed crash displaying browser on Linux when launching browser and
    Netscape, firefox and mozilla are all absent.
- fixed bug that caused NPE under rare conditions when dragging a region onto
    new track area.
- Probably fixed bug that caused Negative automation element error.
- improved selections so that brackets and some other commands work even if
    there is no selection.
- added ability to set playback bounds and selection from new track area.
- put preview in edit window along with effects. double clicking on region
    in bin shows preview.
- fixed bugs associated with copy and pasting automation.
- small volume is even smaller
- fixed bug that created edit to be added to undo list when viewing aux send
- added some right click options to extend selections to start, end and region
bounds.
- pre/post roll modes expanded to include options for things like only playing
pre-roll
- fade editor incorporated into preview and effects editing area.
- updated some 3rd party packages and also fixed some credits in about box.
- ruler has tick marks!
- toggling spacebar between stop and pause. Can be temporarily reversed with
alt.
- added arrows for effect name collapsing/expanding.
- added master volume control to transport area.
- modified implementation of track control panel's channel gui.
- added ability to add and remove effects from track control panel and ability
to remove
    effects from channel strip.
- added ability to save hardware settings as new session default.
- added multi-track selections! Many functions seem to work correctly.
- fixed "bad highlight" problem.
- fixed bug that showed pan automation on mono track.
- undo/redo in menu now shows the name of the edit being undone/redone.
- implemented multi-track fades, multiple fade creation and multiple fade
editing.
- improved appearance (and accuracy) of fade drawings.
- added intelligent name shortening (at least in English) to track names when
display is too small.
- improved change track name dialog.
- fixed bug that sometimes screwed up automation when pausing or using pre-roll.
- added option to import audio along with movie.
- updated sales engine and allowed access to web-store even when XO Wave is
already running in "pro" mode.
- update PortAudio on Linux and Mac OS X
- improved thread safety on SMP machines
- improved error and report handling
- fixed problem with text fields in some locales.

Harfield, Pretoria South Africa.
Tel: +27 76 314 1420
Fax: +27 11 507 6266
Email:dougbaloyi@...

Attention: Sir/Madam,

My name is Mr. Douglas Baloyi, the Manager, Credit and Foreign Bills of ABSA
BANK SOUTH AFRICA. I am writing in respect of a foreign customer of our bank
with account number :908-14-255-114 whose name is Andreas Schranner (Mr.), a
German property magnate age 64, his wife Maria, 62, their daughter Andrea Eich,
38, her husband
Christian, 57, and their children Katharina, 8 and Maximilian, 10, all perished
in the jet. [Concorde AF4590]  With the whole passengers on-board on Monday, 31
July, 2000, 13:22 GMT 14:22 UK and for your perusal you can view this website
below:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/859479.stm

Since the demise of this customer, I personally have watched with keen interest
to see the next of kin but all has proved abortive as no one has come to claim
his funds of US$18.5M (Eighteen Million Five Hundred Thousand United States
Dollars) which has been with our branch for a very long time.  On this note, I
decided to seek
for whom his name shall be used as the “Next of Kin” as no one has come up as
his next of kin. And the banking ethics here does not allow such money to stay
more than eight years, because the money will be recalled to the Bank Treasury
as “Unclaimed Fund” after this period.

In view of this I got your contact through a Trade Journal when I was making a
research on a foreigner I will use in this great opportunity. For your
assistant, I am willing to give you 25% of the total amount. Upon the receipt of
your response, I will send you by fax or e-mail the letter of application which
you will Fill, Sign
and send back to our bank to enable us start  this processing of this claim. I
will not fail to bring to your notice that this business is Hitch-Free and that
you should not entertain any fear as all modalities for the smooth and easy
transfer of this fund has been finalized, this transaction will be completed
within Five (5) banking
  days of receiving your response, after you apply to the bank as a “Relation” to
the deceased.

When you receive this letter, kindly send me a Fax through my personal/direct
fax number 27 11 507 6266 or through my direct email:dougbaloyi@...
signifying your decision.

Please include your Private Tel/Fax Numbers for quick communication regarding
this great opportunity that will definitely benefit both of us.

Yours Truly,

Mr. Douglas Baloyi.

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On Wed, 19 Apr 2006, Adam Varga wrote:

> Bjorn,
>
> Thanks for all the quick replies.
>
> I'm using a little firewire interface for my audio interface. I actually
> don't care where my outputs go as much as I care where my inputs come from
> (but yes, in general I do like to send my system sounds through the built
> in, and DAW sounds through the firewire interface)...
>
> As far as inputs go, everytime I hit record, it defaults to my laptop's mic
> unless I switch my audio hardware preferences... Ideally I'd like see Audio
> Hardware as a global seting, not a session wide setting... Is that possible?

It's not ideal, but perhaps setting the default input to your interface in
the System Preferences, would save some trouble. IIRC 0.17.5b has support
for seperate input and output devices.

When 0.18.0b comes out, I'll try to have a better solution for you.

Thanks for your feedback!

 	 bjorn

-------------
Bjorn Roche
Check out my CD Mastering Software
for Mac OS X : http://www.xowave.com

Bjorn,

Thanks for all the quick replies.

I'm using a little firewire interface for my audio interface. I actually
don't care where my outputs go as much as I care where my inputs come from
(but yes, in general I do like to send my system sounds through the built
in, and DAW sounds through the firewire interface)...

As far as inputs go, everytime I hit record, it defaults to my laptop's mic
unless I switch my audio hardware preferences... Ideally I'd like see Audio
Hardware as a global seting, not a session wide setting... Is that possible?

-Adam

On 4/19/06, Bjorn Roche <bjorn@...> wrote:
>
>  On Wed, 19 Apr 2006, Adam B. Varga wrote:
>
> > is it possible to save hardware settings, or do they reset everytime you
>
> > create a new session?
>
> Adam,
>
>       Thanks for your question. When creating a new session, XO Wave
> builds that hardware settings based on your default sound device and a set
>
> of default latency settings that have been widely tested as "safe". You
> can modify those settings, but, as you've discovered, those settings are
> session-specific. If you want to use other hardware as the default, right
> now, you must select it in your sound control panel. Latency, simillarly,
> must be changed each time you create a session if you are unhappy ith the
> conservative default.
>
>       If you are creating lots of sessions and always want to use,
> say, the built-in hardware for your system sounds and, say, a pro
> interface for your pro-audio work, I can definately see where it might
> be frustrating to adjust this every time. I am happy to consider adding a
> feature for this -- and now is the time since 0.18.0 is planned to be the
> last major revision before 1.0. If you could describe your situation a bit
>
> more or if anyone else has a related complaint, please let me know and
> I'll see what I can do.
>
>       bjorn
>
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On Wed, 19 Apr 2006, Adam B. Varga wrote:

> is it possible to save hardware settings, or do they reset everytime you
> create a new session?

Adam,

 	 Thanks for your question. When creating a new session, XO Wave
builds that hardware settings based on your default sound device and a set
of default latency settings that have been widely tested as "safe". You
can modify those settings, but, as you've discovered, those settings are
session-specific. If you want to use other hardware as the default, right
now, you must select it in your sound control panel. Latency, simillarly,
must be changed each time you create a session if you are unhappy ith the
conservative default.

 	 If you are creating lots of sessions and always want to use,
say, the built-in hardware for your system sounds and, say, a pro
interface for your pro-audio work, I can definately see where it might
be frustrating to adjust this every time. I am happy to consider adding a
feature for this -- and now is the time since 0.18.0 is planned to be the
last major revision before 1.0. If you could describe your situation a bit
more or if anyone else has a related complaint, please let me know and
I'll see what I can do.

 	 bjorn

-------------
Bjorn Roche
Check out my CD Mastering Software
for Mac OS X : http://www.xowave.com

is it possible to save hardware settings, or do they reset everytime you create
a new session?

- Adam

DAILYSONIC feed your ears
http://www.dailysonic.com

On Mon, 17 Apr 2006, Adam B. Varga wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I just discovered XO Wave last night - and am really excited by what its
capable of. I run
> podcast called Dailysonic and have been looking for an inexpensive yet
powerful DAW to
> recommend to our contribs and other fellow podcasters).
>
> One question - especially relevant to podcasting... Is XO Wave really capable
of ducking? It
> appears that the side chain on the compressor only allows me to select an EQ
range on the
> same audio track... In order to duck my audio I'd need to, for example, put
vocals on track 1
> & music on track 2, put a compressor on track 2 with the side chain analyzing
the input from
> track 1. Is that currently possible?

Thanks for your comments. unfortunately, ducking is not really possible
with the current version, though we plan to implement it in the future. In
general, I recomend volume automation as an alternative.


For what it's worth, you could get ducking by some complex track routing
trickery, but I'm not sure it's worth it, since it requires understanding
the routing so that you can appropriately set levels.

If it is worth it, here's how:

- create a stereo speech track. (track 1)
- create a stereo audio track. pan it to the right. (track 2)
- create a mix track. (track 3)
- assign the output from track 2 to track 3.
- assign the routing of track 3 to output only it's right track to the
main output.
- add an aux send to track 1. set it to go to the left channel of track 3.

That should do it, though obviously a real ducking feature would be
better.

 	 bjorn

-------------
Bjorn Roche
Check out my CD Mastering Software
for Mac OS X : http://www.xowave.com