I'd like to hear about working with mock objects from Steve Freeman. Generally any of the heavy hitters would be interesting to invite: Martin Fowler, Ken...
Merlyn, That is a rather specialized language. I'd be curious to know whether it is being used commercially in Portland. FYI, Portland has been a development...
antoy@...
Sep 7, 2007 3:30 pm
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I doubt it's used much internationally at this stage let alone in Portland....
"When you're doing test driven development you often run into the issue where you want to test package level classes and/or private/protected/package level...
Imagine a Strategy pattern where the strategies are internal implementation details of a package. You will want to TDD the strategy classes but not want them...
No, I've never had this problem. (I have heard of people who chose not to test because their access control didn't allow it. It seems to me that they didn't...
Ward Cunningham
ward@...
Sep 8, 2007 9:11 pm
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Responding to... "a rather specialized language" and "I doubt it's used much internationally at this stage let alone in Portland." I am not sure what...
Right. Ok. I did quote that verbatim didn't I. The scenario you're talking about I'd handle by making the strategy classes package level protected and have my...
As Ward hinted in his email, it comes down to a tension between the desire to TDD and the desire to follow a strict access model. One approach is to ignore...
... Along the same lines as what Jim and Ward have said... If we're talking Java, I've copied a pattern from AppFuse, where the test classes are in their own...
... Not that I know. The largest user communities are in Germany and Spain. Maybe there. At some point the Curry mailing list contained addresses at...
antoy@...
Sep 10, 2007 3:03 pm
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This is straying off-topic but, you know, I used to put a lot of energy into access decisions and worry about how to balance client and testing access; now my...
Hey XPers, Come code! We'll also have hanging out, language discussions[1], caffeine, beer, etc. And, of course, some other XP practices. Code Sprint ...
Is this going to be the XPDX meeting or should I reserve the PSBA again? Code Sprint sounds fun. -A Aaron H Bridges Associate Product Manager BlueVolt |...
Hi Everybody, The PSBA main meeting room is booked for a larger party on the 26th. I can either reserve a smaller room or we can find another spot. I have...
... According to the CubeSpace web calendar,[1] there's only one other (major) event happening on the 26th. I'll forward your email to the appropriate person...
The people at Cubespace are very welcoming to user groups. I'm sure if the room's not already booked on that night they'd let us use it. The space is also big...
OK great. I just found out that the 4th Wednesday isn't available here at all through the end of the year. If we like the space next week let's just book it. ...
Folks! A reminder: Code Sprint #1 is today (Wednesday) at 7pm at CubeSpace. As for the XPDX Meeting... I confirmed with Eva that we can meet at CubeSpace this...
SolutionsIQ is holding a Scrum Product Owner course in Seattle on October 9th and 10th Course Overview The Product Owner is a key role in fostering Agile....
I thought I'd pass this along. Sorry for the short notice - I typically post our meetings to the Perl/PHP/Ruby lists if you missed it. Thanks Jeff for inviting...
Hey all,[1] We had a pretty fabulous and successful first code sprint last Wednesday. Three projects were worked on: an agile planning tool, a dark or shadow...
I told someone about XPDX recently, and as far as they could tell, there had been no activity over a year. This points to the need to clean up the group's web...
... Yep. I just set the archives to "anyone". A couple years ago I asked if anyone wants to be a moderator -- all I do is approve new members since we were...
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