Re: [xtm-wg] New language.xtm and country.xtm proposals
On Fri, Jul 27, 2001 at 10:28:38AM -0700, Murray Altheim wrote:
> All I've been asking to do is wait until we have a mediation process to
> deal with the disagreements. It's silly for us to argue for weeks over
> these issues with no way to really resolve anything. We're two weeks
> away from having a process, and then I'm quite happy to deal with these
> things then.
I would agree 100% with you if we were talking about electing a president
(not a really good example, I know).
I have now put together new proposals for the language.xtm and country.xtm PSI sets, and intend to submit these to TopicMaps.Org for consideration in...
Lars Marius Garshol
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Jul 26, 2001 10:42 am
Hi Lars Marius, Thanks for this valuable work. I hope we could approve both in Montréal. But I have a comment (in fact dealing with a simlar issue). ... We...
H. Holger Rath
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Jul 26, 2001 12:43 pm
... I wasn't present at the Austin meeting, but in looking at these proposed topic maps, I would be of the opinion that the topics are surrogates for countries...
Kal Ahmed
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Jul 26, 2001 1:50 pm
* H. Holger Rath ... So do I. :-) ... In that case there is no point in having these PSI sets. I can understand that people feel uneasy about "standardizing...
Lars Marius Garshol
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Jul 26, 2001 2:58 pm
... I know I've already done my complaining about the idea of having two sets of language and country topic maps to deal with, and consider it really poor form...
Murray Altheim
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Jul 26, 2001 4:33 pm
* Murray Altheim ... Not so. It would be perfectly reasonable for the group to pick the best aspects of each topic map to create the best possible end product....
Lars Marius Garshol
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Jul 27, 2001 9:03 am
... No, this was the crucial point. They did *not* standardize the languages and countries of the world, they standardized a list of their *names* as well as a...
Murray Altheim
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Jul 26, 2001 4:46 pm
... Perhaps I'm way off here, but don't people use the ISO codes precisely to unambiguously represent the country/language ? ... But aren't they agreeing on...
Kal Ahmed
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Jul 26, 2001 5:02 pm
* Murray Altheim ... So, in other words, what the codes do is to represent or identify languages. Let's be a bit more specific here, so that it is easier to...
Lars Marius Garshol
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Jul 27, 2001 9:19 am
Kal Ahmed wrote: [...] ... Yes they do. But the codes themselves are described as codes, not as languages or countries. ISO and IETF disabuse themselves of...
Murray Altheim
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Jul 26, 2001 5:34 pm
... Hmm - thats a shame, because I think that a set of PSIs for both the countries themselves would be a major step forward in permitting consistent topic map...
Kal Ahmed
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Jul 26, 2001 5:48 pm
... Sorry, I mistyped. I meant to say that the updated topic maps do not use "ISO Language Codes" as a typing topic, as simply typing them as languages or...
Murray Altheim
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Jul 26, 2001 6:03 pm
Hello all, now for something completely different -- and for the purpose of getting away from personal animosities, wounded egos, and the like -- I'd like to ...
Florian G. Haas
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Jul 27, 2001 9:12 am
* Florian G. Haas ... That is correct. ... The choice of <subjectIndicatorRef> over <topicRef> was made consciously. I use <subjectIndicatorRef> in the...
Lars Marius Garshol
larsga@...
Aug 10, 2001 6:55 am
"Florian G. Haas" wrote: [...] ... Yes, the design was created to allow either, but as you state, it's desirable to use an explicit topic reference when it is...
Murray Altheim
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Jul 27, 2001 5:32 pm
... I would agree 100% with you if we were talking about electing a president (not a really good example, I know). \rho...
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