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Re: Network Privacy

That's an interesting system - it takes into account the desires of each
person involved. It sounds especially good for people who feel like
their reputations are judged by the kind of fans they have, making it
worth taking the time to study and approve or deny each requested public
association. (So it might work for a social network of politicians or
something like that.)

We'd think carefully before adding any complexity to the del.icio.us
network system because its current simplicity works pretty well: it
makes people's bookmark-watching relationships explicit and leaves
everything else about their relationships implicit. That makes sense
because del.icio.us is focused on bookmarking. If we decide this isn't
working well enough, we'll try to make the simplest change that'll fix
the problem. :)

Britta
del.icio.us community manager intern

--- In ydn-delicious@yahoogroups.com, "Roberto Pereira" <roberto.uem@...> wrote:
>
> We're working with a Cognitive Authority Network, and we found the same
> problem. However, we planned this:
> " I add Britta to my network, and so, Britta will receive a message asking
> her agreement. If Britta doesn't agree with it, She will appear on my
> network - but only to me (it's not public). On the other hand, if Britta
> agree with it, She will appear openly for anybody to see."
>
> The fact is: even if Britta doesn't agree with my wish of to add her on my
> network, it will not change my desire, it only says: "there is a
> disagreement between us", and how de bookmarks pages are public, I'll see
> Britta bookmarks the same way that I did it before. But, If Britta doesn't
> want to be on my network, She has this right, so She will not appear on my
> network openly (only to me), and neither Britta nor anybody will be able to
> see it anymore.
>
> We're following the principle of "Blessed Authority" (Theory of Cognitive
> Authority) which determines that a person should be able to agree - or not -
> with the authority received. It can avoid conflicts amongst users, and other
> problems of the same nature.
>
> =)
>
> Robert
>
>
> 2007/11/28, Britta Gustafson <brittag@...>:
> >
> > Thank you for all the details -- they're helpful to us as we think about
> > the right things to do with the network feature in the future. For the
> > time being, you can click the little grey triangle next to your "fans"
> > list to hide the names from your view (if you haven't done that
> > already). It also sounds like that "hide specific fan" option would
> > still be a potential solution in this case, and we'll definitely think
> > about it.
> >
> > Britta
> > del.icio.us community manager intern
> >
> > --- In ydn-delicious@yahoogroups.com <ydn-delicious%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > "Tim Schoon" <gamemaster@> wrote:
> > >
> > > It helps explain, but it could be made more clear. Yet I still think
> > there
> > > needs to be some kind of authorization put in or at the bare minimum
> > only
> > > have it display the people I've added (mutually, or who I am looking at
> > but
> > > who have not mutually added me). There's nothing in my public bookmarks
> > that
> > > people can't see, but I'm not putting the bookmarks there to be linked
> > to by
> > > just anybody. If John Doe wants to see what I've bookmarked, and knows
> > my
> > > username, and knows how to use del.icio.us, he can just type in the link
> > to
> > > it and go directly and then add to their browser's favorites or
> > something
> > > like that. But every time I visit I see the name of this unknown
> > stranger on
> > > my page, and it bothers me. I'd really rather not know that some
> > stranger is
> > > a fan of my bookmarks. If that could be addressed, I'd feel a lot
> > better.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Tim :-) http://nbajammer.epop3.com
> > > http://www.myspace.com/nbajammer/
> > > ICQ # 5756489 Yahoo: nba_jammer77 AIM: nbajam77
> > > MSN: nbajam77 Xfire: nbajammer
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Britta Gustafson" <brittag@>
> > > To: <ydn-delicious@yahoogroups.com <ydn-delicious%40yahoogroups.com>>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 7:22 PM
> > > Subject: [ydn-delicious] Re: Network Privacy
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Flickr, when somebody adds you to their contacts, you get a note
> > that
> > > > says "If you don't know [username], [username] is probably a fan of
> > your
> > > > photos or wants a bookmark so they can find you again. There is no
> > > > obligation for you to reciprocate, unless you want to." This is true
> > on
> > > > del.icio.us too: when somebody adds you to their network, it's usually
> > a
> > > > small expression of interest in what you're bookmarking - the person
> > > > just wants an easy way to see your public bookmarks. Does that help
> > > > explain the current network/fans system? We can try to make that
> > message
> > > > more clear on the website.
> > > >
> > > > We originally didn't include a list of "fans" on network pages at all,
> > > > partly to avoid the impression of a popularity contest, but we found
> > > > that people were curious about who was paying attention to their
> > > > bookmarks.
> > > >
> > > > Britta
> > > > del.icio.us community manager intern
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Roberto Pereira
> PCC - Programa de Pós-Graduação em Ciência da Computação
> UEM - Universidade Estadual de Maringá
> 44-3261-4070
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>






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Is there a way to prevent people you don't know from adding you to their network? There's 2 people on my network - one is my mother, which is fine (we're...
Tim Schoon
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Nov 27, 2007
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Hi! There's no way to remove people from your network right now, except in the case of spam or other abuse (harassment, etc.), which we're happy to remove if...
Britta Gustafson
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Nov 27, 2007
11:56 pm

It'd be a nice start. I don't mind my bookmarks being publicly accessible, lest I wouldn't have a del.icio.us account, but things like my fans/network I want...
Tim Schoon
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Nov 28, 2007
12:59 am

On Flickr, when somebody adds you to their contacts, you get a note that says "If you don't know [username], [username] is probably a fan of your photos or...
Britta Gustafson
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Nov 28, 2007
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Sometimes I wonder what people would think if they knew how easy it is to look at their network. There's some interesting information to be had there. I can...
Kevin Curry
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Nov 28, 2007
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... Personally, I think it's a little _less_ "creepy" that someone has visibly "subscribed" to the "Tim Schoon channel". At least you know that Person X out...
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Nov 29, 2007
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Not to re-hash the old thread, but there's something I failed to point out upon reviewing it...and more to add as well. ... more "creepy" ... There's a...
Tim
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Feb 28, 2008
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In real life there are many kinds of "fan", including a person who reads your book (an invisible fan) and a person in the audience at your presentation (a...
Britta Gustafson
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Mar 3, 2008
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It helps explain, but it could be made more clear. Yet I still think there needs to be some kind of authorization put in or at the bare minimum only have it...
Tim Schoon
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Nov 28, 2007
7:08 am

Thank you for all the details -- they're helpful to us as we think about the right things to do with the network feature in the future. For the time being, you...
Britta Gustafson
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Nov 28, 2007
12:00 pm

We're working with a Cognitive Authority Network, and we found the same problem. However, we planned this: " I add Britta to my network, and so, Britta will...
Roberto Pereira
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Nov 29, 2007
5:49 pm

That's an interesting system - it takes into account the desires of each person involved. It sounds especially good for people who feel like their reputations...
Britta Gustafson
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Nov 30, 2007
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