Hi

When I first looked at the examples of the YUI I thought "Wow, this is great! I can make my admin pages look really professional"

Now I'm not so sure.

The big problem (looking at the forum confirms this) is that the examples show nicely on the client side, but after updating data (inline editing: datatable) or sorting data (dragdrop) there is a failure to clearly show how the data can be passed back to the server.

I happen to be using ASP and an Access database, and the interesting thing to me about the YUI is that it doesn't seem to be important whether the YUI page is in .asp .php .htm .xyz

But how to pass the info back!

I started off wanting to emulate the drag and drop facility of Yahoo Mail, and if I can achieve something like that it will enable me to easily resort my students into different groups, and save a lot of messy clicking. I guess I want to be able to integrate with XMLHTTP

So... how does one send the darn info back to the server!

You might want to read:



http://yuiblog.com/blog/2007/09/26/satyam-datatable-2/



(and, as suggested, the first part as well).  It was written for

previous versions of DataTable so some details might have changed in the

big update in version 2.5. If in doubt, check the update notes at the

top of the DataTable docs.



Hope it helps



Satyam



andy wrote:

>

> Hi

>

> When I first looked at the examples of the YUI I thought "Wow, this is

> great! I can make my admin pages look really professional"

>

> Now I'm not so sure.

>

> The big problem (looking at the forum confirms this) is that the

> examples show nicely on the client side, but after updating data

> (inline editing: datatable) or sorting data (dragdrop) there is a

> failure to clearly show how the data can be passed back to the server.

>

> I happen to be using ASP and an Access database, and the interesting

> thing to me about the YUI is that it doesn't seem to be important

> whether the YUI page is in .asp .php .htm .xyz

>

> But how to pass the info back!

>

> I started off wanting to emulate the drag and drop facility of Yahoo

> Mail, and if I can achieve something like that it will enable me to

> easily resort my students into different groups, and save a lot of

> messy clicking. I guess I want to be able to integrate with XMLHTTP

>

> So... how does one send the darn info back to the server!

>

>

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Hi



Great tutorial, still getting headaches though... perhaps I'm not

ready :-/



What I could really use is an idiots guide, e.g.



1. This is how your data should look (so link to appropriate asp or

php page to process requests for that data)

2. This is how you fill in the datatable and make it editable

3. This is how you pass data back to your php or asp page to write to

the database.

4. Recommendation for appropriate drink to have once this

successfully completed.



Furthermore, there isn't an example which shows how drag and drop can

be used to interact with a datatable, or to dump rows into bins (This

is a facility I'd love.... just like in the new Yahoo Mail, as it

would enable me to regroup my student records really easily). Your

invoice example kind of does it, except it "copies" the original

record, rather than moving it.



thanks



andy



--- In ydn-javascript@yahoogroups.com, Satyam <satyam@...> wrote:

>

> You might want to read:

>

> http://yuiblog.com/blog/2007/09/26/satyam-datatable-2/

>

in the tutorial, what is the basis for your code?



Is it the "Basic Example"... If not I think that the code request

others have asked for is basically the example you've written in

chunks, but all on one page.



What have you used as your data source - as a beginner, if getting

data from a database should I get into the habit of using JSON?



It's really confusing to understand where to start is it with

xmlhttp, json, jscript ahhhhhhhhhhh!



The source code of the YUI examples don't appear to be consistent, so

they can't be used as cut and past templates which is a real headache

(I'm using iboprofen) for the beginner - this is especially with

regard to the different types of datasource. I've learned all of my

programming in this way, and I'm really wondering whether I can

justify the time just to get started even with a simple table. I feel

a real idiot.



So to repeat others' earlier requests, could we have the final markup

for the page you've written in your tutorial, please? It will make it

1000 times easier to see how it's all finally put together.



thanks... please don't forget part one of this message



andy



--- In ydn-javascript@yahoogroups.com, "andy" <andyboyns@...> wrote:

>

> Hi

>

> Great tutorial, still getting headaches though... perhaps I'm not

> ready :-/

>

> What I could really use is an idiots guide, e.g.

>

> 1. This is how your data should look (so link to appropriate asp or

> php page to process requests for that data)

> 2. This is how you fill in the datatable and make it editable

> 3. This is how you pass data back to your php or asp page to write

to

> the database.

> 4. Recommendation for appropriate drink to have once this

> successfully completed.

>

> Furthermore, there isn't an example which shows how drag and drop

can

> be used to interact with a datatable, or to dump rows into bins

(This

> is a facility I'd love.... just like in the new Yahoo Mail, as it

> would enable me to regroup my student records really easily). Your

> invoice example kind of does it, except it "copies" the original

> record, rather than moving it.

>

> thanks

>

> andy

>

> --- In ydn-javascript@yahoogroups.com, Satyam <satyam@> wrote:

> >

> > You might want to read:

> >

> > http://yuiblog.com/blog/2007/09/26/satyam-datatable-2/

> >

>

in the tutorial, what is the basis for your code?
Is it the "Basic Example"... If not I think that the code request others have asked for is basically the example you've written in chunks, but all on one page.

What have you used as your data source - as a beginner, if getting data from a database should I get into the habit of using JSON?

It's really confusing to understand where to start is it with xmlhttp, json, jscript ahhhhhhhhhhh!

The source code of the YUI examples don't appear to be consistent, so they can't be used as cut and past templates which is a real headache (I'm using iboprofen) for the beginner - this is especially with regard to the different types of datasource. I've learned all of my programming in this way, and I'm really wondering whether I can justify the time just to get started even with a simple table. I feel a real idiot.

So to repeat others' earlier requests, could we have the final markup for the page you've written in your tutorial, please? It will make it 1000 times easier to see how it's all finally put together.

thanks... please don't forget part one of this message
andy
--- In ydn-javascript@yahoogroups.com, "andy" <andyboyns@...> wrote:

Hi
Great tutorial, still getting headaches though... perhaps I'm not ready :-/
What I could really use is an idiots guide, e.g.
1. This is how your data should look (so link to appropriate asp or php page to process requests for that data)
2. This is how you fill in the datatable and make it editable
3. This is how you pass data back to your php or asp page to write 

to 

the database.
4. Recommendation for appropriate drink to have once this successfully completed.
Furthermore, there isn't an example which shows how drag and drop 

can 

be used to interact with a datatable, or to dump rows into bins 

(This 

is a facility I'd love.... just like in the new Yahoo Mail, as it would enable me to regroup my student records really easily). Your invoice example kind of does it, except it "copies" the original record, rather than moving it.
thanks
andy
--- In ydn-javascript@yahoogroups.com, Satyam <satyam@> wrote:

You might want to read:
http://yuiblog.com/blog/2007/09/26/satyam-datatable-2/

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Satyam-3 wrote:

>

> Plenty of those in the examples page:

>

> http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/examples/datatable/index.html

>

> The article explain why it works, you can get full examples from plenty

> of sources.

>

I'm still trying really hard to understand basic principles, and have

successfully walked through part of the example which is explained in

http://yuiblog.com/blog/2007/09/26/satyam-datatable-2/



Unfortunately, and surprisingly, although I've searched and searched for

examples showing the full process of collecting, writing, and posting data

using a datatable I can't find any examples which don't mix up

"technologies".



I appreciate that in this forum we're sharing experience and are not

actually "teachers", but YUI is seriously confusing for the beginner without

jscript knowledge.



Unfortuately I made a choice several years ago to follow the asp path,

rather than php, and today I see a similar path before me: YUI or not. I've

spent about a week just trying to fathom out how to write data onto a

table... I feel great about that (?), but without that next step of being

able to communicate back with the database on the server, this is

meaningless.

OK. I know there are snippets of code that illustrate this, but they are a

jumble of examples. If someone could direct me to an inline editing database

example which includes the collection and posting of data from start to

finish, I know I'll be off and flying, wondering why it all took so long

(and I'll close this topic off too)

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You may also try Dav Glass examples page:



http://blog.davglass.com/2006/06/yui-code-samples/



lots of material there.



andy wrote:

> Hi

>

> Great tutorial, still getting headaches though... perhaps I'm not

> ready :-/

>

> What I could really use is an idiots guide, e.g.

>

> 1. This is how your data should look (so link to appropriate asp or

> php page to process requests for that data)

> 2. This is how you fill in the datatable and make it editable

> 3. This is how you pass data back to your php or asp page to write to

> the database.

> 4. Recommendation for appropriate drink to have once this

> successfully completed.

>

> Furthermore, there isn't an example which shows how drag and drop can

> be used to interact with a datatable, or to dump rows into bins (This

> is a facility I'd love.... just like in the new Yahoo Mail, as it

> would enable me to regroup my student records really easily). Your

> invoice example kind of does it, except it "copies" the original

> record, rather than moving it.

>

> thanks

>

> andy

>

> --- In ydn-javascript@yahoogroups.com, Satyam <satyam@...> wrote:

>

>> You might want to read:

>>

>> http://yuiblog.com/blog/2007/09/26/satyam-datatable-2/

>>

>>

>

>

>

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