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> In my project we had a designer interface but he don't know JavaScript.
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> We need a IDE, What IDE we can use for designer interfaces with YUI?
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mauriff@ymail.com escribió:
> Hi,
> In my project we had a designer interface but he don't know JavaScript.
>
> We need a IDE, What IDE we can use for designer interfaces with YUI?
>
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No IDE, I just use a plain editor, Notepad++, a good one, I believe, but
not 'integrated' with anything. It is advanced enough for my taste,
considering I started punching cards, I'm not much into these whiggish
innovations. Babbage had it right, bits you could touch, ponderous bits
he made, shiny brass, about half a pound per decimal digit, several
pounds if you count the overhead. Hollerith was Ok, his bits were
lightweight but you could still see them, you could open the waste bin
of the card puncher and see where all the bits had gone, you could
measure them either in kilobits or kilograms. And it made great
confetti, a nasty one, that got in your hair and you still combed bits
out a week after, now I don't have those bits nor hair to get it stuck in.
Satyam
Mark Ireland escribió:
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>
> Satyam, What do you use?
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> From: satyam@...
> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:13:45 +0200
> Subject: Re: [ydn-javascript] IDE for YUI
>
>
>
> I don't use it but the one I saw recommended quite often is Aptana:
>
> http://aptana.com/ <http://aptana.com/>
>
> mauriff@... <mailto:mauriff@...> escribió:
> > Hi,
> > In my project we had a designer interface but he don't know JavaScript.
> >
> > We need a IDE, What IDE we can use for designer interfaces with YUI?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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I'm old school: No stinkin IDE. I use a programmers editor called The
Semware Editor (TSE). It was called QEdit when I first started using it
(1986). I hadn't done the math 'till now - 23 years on one editor.
Wow...
I use Notepad++, also. But found it is difficult to debug a program.
Do you have any hints for us?
For example in my last topic I have a program which can
run in IE but not FireFox, I need to use try and error method.
I even try the firebug, however still feel difficult to to trace the bug.
Fai,
--- In ydn-javascript@yahoogroups.com, Satyam <satyam@...> wrote:
>
> No IDE, I just use a plain editor, Notepad++, a good one, I believe, but
> not 'integrated' with anything. It is advanced enough for my taste,
> considering I started punching cards, I'm not much into these whiggish
> innovations. Babbage had it right, bits you could touch, ponderous bits
> he made, shiny brass, about half a pound per decimal digit, several
> pounds if you count the overhead. Hollerith was Ok, his bits were
> lightweight but you could still see them, you could open the waste bin
> of the card puncher and see where all the bits had gone, you could
> measure them either in kilobits or kilograms. And it made great
> confetti, a nasty one, that got in your hair and you still combed bits
> out a week after, now I don't have those bits nor hair to get it stuck in.
>
> Satyam
>
>
> Mark Ireland escribió:
> >
> >
> > Satyam, What do you use?
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To: ydn-javascript@yahoogroups.com
> > From: satyam@...
> > Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:13:45 +0200
> > Subject: Re: [ydn-javascript] IDE for YUI
> >
> >
> >
> > I don't use it but the one I saw recommended quite often is Aptana:
> >
> > http://aptana.com/ <http://aptana.com/>
> >
> > mauriff@... <mailto:mauriff@...> escribió:
> > > Hi,
> > > In my project we had a designer interface but he don't know JavaScript.
> > >
> > > We need a IDE, What IDE we can use for designer interfaces with YUI?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
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> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------
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I use Firebug and I find it is great, it does all I need and if not I
add some debugger and console.log statements. For IE I still have since
the days I had a MS library subscription my old Visual Studio, which is
7 years old but still installs and works fine, at least it does with
IE7, haven't tried IE8. The newer 'Express' editions are free and can
be made to do client-side debugging on IE, someone sent to this list the
steps some months ago. Anyway, tracing bugs is hard, no matter how
good the tools are. I have a good knowledge of DataTable, DataSource
and TreeView and I find them easy to debug now that I know them, but it
is hard for me to debug other code which I don't know where to find
things. I guess that's the trick to it, becoming familiar with the code.
Satyam
Fai escribió:
> Satyam,
>
> I use Notepad++, also. But found it is difficult to debug a program.
> Do you have any hints for us?
> For example in my last topic I have a program which can
> run in IE but not FireFox, I need to use try and error method.
> I even try the firebug, however still feel difficult to to trace the bug.
>
> Fai,
> --- In ydn-javascript@yahoogroups.com, Satyam <satyam@...> wrote:
>
>> No IDE, I just use a plain editor, Notepad++, a good one, I believe, but
>> not 'integrated' with anything. It is advanced enough for my taste,
>> considering I started punching cards, I'm not much into these whiggish
>> innovations. Babbage had it right, bits you could touch, ponderous bits
>> he made, shiny brass, about half a pound per decimal digit, several
>> pounds if you count the overhead. Hollerith was Ok, his bits were
>> lightweight but you could still see them, you could open the waste bin
>> of the card puncher and see where all the bits had gone, you could
>> measure them either in kilobits or kilograms. And it made great
>> confetti, a nasty one, that got in your hair and you still combed bits
>> out a week after, now I don't have those bits nor hair to get it stuck in.
>>
>> Satyam
>>
>>
>> Mark Ireland escribió:
>>
>>> Satyam, What do you use?
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> To: ydn-javascript@yahoogroups.com
>>> From: satyam@...
>>> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:13:45 +0200
>>> Subject: Re: [ydn-javascript] IDE for YUI
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't use it but the one I saw recommended quite often is Aptana:
>>>
>>> http://aptana.com/ <http://aptana.com/>
>>>
>>> mauriff@... <mailto:mauriff@...> escribió:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> In my project we had a designer interface but he don't know JavaScript.
>>>>
>>>> We need a IDE, What IDE we can use for designer interfaces with YUI?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>>>> Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.1/2212 - Release Date:
>>>>
>>> 07/01/09 05:53:00
>>>
>>>>
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Personnaly I use Emacs qith js2-mode (http://code.google.com/p/js2-mode/). This
one is really nice but as I guess you are searching something with what you
won't have to touch any code it will not fit your needs... and none will fit.
Watever will be the IDE you will use you will need, sooner or later, to learn
javascript...
There is no magic there, except if you do a really simple implementation you
will need to put your hands in the code.
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--- In ydn-javascript@yahoogroups.com, "mauriff@..." <mauriff@...> wrote:
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> Hi,
> In my project we had a designer interface but he don't know JavaScript.
>
> We need a IDE, What IDE we can use for designer interfaces with YUI?
>
Speaking about IDE for YUI, but unrelated to the designer part:
I find very useful the ability to browse the code, that is to have a
panel showing the methods and properties, that I can use to jump
through the code. It is the single thing about an IDE that saves me
loads of time.
Unfortunately all the IDEs I had tryed did not support the anonymous
function style of coding typically used in YUI coding. That is, you
only see an icon telling "anonymous function", but you cannot browse
into the methods and properties contained in it. Aptana and other
Eclipse based editors did have this problem too when I and my
associates tryed them (1 year ago).
If you use this kind of coding:
(function () {
YAHOO.widget.SliderWindowAnimation = function (module, attrOpen,
attrClose) {
// /etc.
}
}());
you can go around the issue by commenting out the first and the last
line and you get a somewhat functional code anyway, the code browser
will show everything.
However going to YUI3 where the anonymous function is typically more
nested, and it is a pain having to add and remove comments to test
(because the code is not functional if you want to be able to browse
your code).
I asked at the Komodo forum (Komodo is another IDE I had tryed, it is
faster than the Eclipse based ones, but has the same issue about the
browser code) and they actually fixed this today, so that now there is
at least 1 IDE one can use to browse around a YUI code.
I've been looking for this for a long time so it feels like a
liberation to me.