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#1750 From: "dominickbox" <dominickbox@...>
Date: Sun Dec 31, 2006 7:18 pm
Subject: What happened to Yeager Automation.? dominickbox
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Anyone know what happened to the Yeager Automation website?  Also,
anyone know what happened to this forum.  it seems to have been overrun
with spam messages

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#1700 From: RichD <cmsteam@...>
Date: Wed Apr 5, 2006 6:12 am
Subject: Re: CNCpro & XP cmsteamer
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Ron,
Yes, but the OS situation is the same. 2 logical drives or 2 physical
drives = 2 drives. An OS on each one. XP will still be the primary
OS. A dual boot package like System Commander will make it simple
to switch at turn on.
Personally, I just use an old computer with DOS or Win98se
on it and use a network or USB flash cards for transfers from the
CAD-Cam computer. Simple & no problems, etc. More flexible as you
can have several machines as well with a PC for each one.
Curbside PC's work fine for this.
RichD
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IDEA
Can I put 2 hard drives in the computer and have 98 on one and XP on the other .
Is there a way to boot from a different drive ?


Ron Kline wrote:

   Is there any way to get CNCpro to run an a newer computer with Windows XP ?
   I have tried it on 2 computers and have had no luck .

   --
   Ron Kline

   American Precision Ceramics
           Central  Ky.

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#1699 From: Ron Kline <ronkline@...>
Date: Wed Apr 5, 2006 3:18 am
Subject: Re: CNCpro & XP ulpilots
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IDEA
Can I put 2 hard drives in the computer and have 98 on one and XP on the other .
Is there a way to boot from a different drive ?

Ron Kline wrote:

Is there any way to get CNCpro to run an a newer computer with Windows XP ? I have tried it on 2 computers and have had no luck . -- Ron Kline American Precision Ceramics Central Ky.

-- Ron Kline
American Precision Ceramics
Central Ky.

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#1698 From: RichD <cmsteam@...>
Date: Wed Apr 5, 2006 1:17 am
Subject: Re: CNCpro & XP cmsteamer
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Ron,
CNCpro requires MS DOS or DRdos. XP has NONE.
You will have to create a dual system disc, put DOS on one, XP on t'other.
Boot to which you want.
RichD (sticking with W98se)

Ron Kline wrote:
>
> Is there any way to get CNCpro to run an a newer computer with Windows XP ?
> I have tried it on 2 computers and have had no luck .
>
> --
> Ron Kline

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#1697 From: Ron Kline <ronkline@...>
Date: Wed Apr 5, 2006 12:28 am
Subject: CNCpro & XP ulpilots
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Is there any way to get CNCpro to run an a newer computer with Windows XP ?
I have tried it on 2 computers and have had no luck .

--
Ron Kline

American Precision Ceramics
         Central  Ky.

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#1696 From: "Don Zwiefka" <donz@...>
Date: Tue Apr 4, 2006 8:31 pm
Subject: RE: Re: Help with Gecko Drive or propose alternative Drive for DC Servo Motor dzwiefka
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Thanks Doug,

Baldor motors are DC brush type. I am trying to go from the computer (CNCPro) to the Gecko,

to the servo motor. I am using a 5VDC power supply for the encoder and a variable DC supply

for motor power. The DC supply is able to turn the motors when hooked directly. I will look into

the Rutex drive and will talk to Gecko about a board to handle the existing encoder at 1000P/R.

Any other suggestions ?

Don

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From: yeagerautomation@yahoogroups.com [mailto:yeagerautomation@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of doug6949
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 3:14 PM
To: yeagerautomation@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [yeagerautomation] Re: Help with Gecko Drive or propose alternative Drive for DC Servo Motor

Hi Don;

The solution depends on what Baldor servos you have. If they are brush
type motors then the easiest solution is either Gecko or Rutex drives.

Rutex makes a step/dir to analog converter that would permit you to
use the baldor drives but they are $100 each. I would simply get the
drives.

Brushless motors require a different approach. Rutex makes a BLDC
drive that might work.

Geckos have improved over the years. They work fine if you don't need
differential encoder inputs. Rutex is a better choice if you have long
encoder lines or are using the motors near a plasma torch.

Doug

--- In yeagerautomation@yahoogroups.com, "Don Zwiefka" <donz@...> wrote:
>
> Our 2-axis machine has been plagued with stepper motor lock-up problems
> on and off for
>
> the past year. We acquired some Baldor DC Servo Motors and Drives and
> would like to
>
> convert to these Servos without abandoning CNCPro. These drives cannot
> accept a pulse signal
>
> that CNCPro puts out. Given the situation, is it easier to:
>
> 1.       find a drive that will control a DC Servo motor while accepting
> CNCPro input,
>
> 2.       Use the Baldor DC servo system and switch software (CNCPro),
>
> 3.       Sell the DC Servo parts and get something new
>
>
>
> Also anyone have experience with Gecko "drives" ?
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> Don Zwiefka
>

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#1695 From: "Don Zwiefka" <donz@...>
Date: Tue Apr 4, 2006 8:25 pm
Subject: RE: Help with Gecko Drive or propose alternative Drive for DC Servo Motor dzwiefka
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Mark - thanks for the response. Not sure about the existing encoder
on the Baldor DC brush type servo motors.  It is a Sumtak Optcodrer,
and has 1000P/R on the nameplate, which I take to mean 1000 pulses per
revolution.   It is the Gecko 320 that I have.  Using a computer Power
Supply for the 5VDC, I have the computer output to DIR, STEP and +5VDC
(common) and have not been able to get the Gecko to spin the motor by
using the arrow keys with CNCPro running. The polarity out of the
computer for the
DIR, STEP is positive, but the Gecko is marked for it to be negative.
Any suggestions here?
Don

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[mailto:yeagerautomation@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 2:54 PM
To: yeagerautomation@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [yeagerautomation] Help with Gecko Drive or propose
alternative Drive for DC Servo Motor

Gecko 320 should do the job for you.  Excellent vendor, excellent
support, excellent product.  Depending on the resolution of the
encoder on the motor, you may have to get the multiplier board with
the G320 - something that MAY be needed using a 1000 ppr encoder
or higher, but feel free to email mariss at geckodrive.

I'd want to check the axes for debris in the ballnuts etc.,
before I applied more power...

I'll assume all the usual stuff wrt acceleration, top speed etc...

/mark

Don Zwiefka wrote:

> Our 2-axis machine has been plagued with stepper motor lock-up
problems
> on and off for
>
> the past year.  We acquired some Baldor DC Servo Motors and Drives and

> would like to
>
> convert to these Servos without abandoning CNCPro.  These drives
cannot
> accept a pulse signal
>
> that CNCPro puts out.  Given the situation, is it easier to:
>
> 1.       find a drive that will control a DC Servo motor while
accepting
> CNCPro input,
>
> 2.       Use the Baldor DC servo system and switch software (CNCPro),
>
> 3.       Sell the DC Servo parts and get something new
>
>
>
> Also anyone have experience with Gecko "drives" ?
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> Don Zwiefka
>
>
>
>
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#1694 From: "Laurence R. Salamey" <lrs@...>
Date: Tue Apr 4, 2006 8:27 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Help with Gecko Drive or propose alternative Drive for DC Servo Motor larrysalamey
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Just a word of caution. Make sure the problem isn't your acceleration rate is too high. It is adjusted in the set up. I had a similar problem and thought it was a dozen other things and that's all it was. The steppers can lift a lot of weight but can't handle too fast an acceleration.

Good luck.

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From: doug6949

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Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 3:14 PM

Subject: [yeagerautomation] Re: Help with Gecko Drive or propose alternative Drive for DC Servo Motor

Hi Don; The solution depends on what Baldor servos you have. If they are brush type motors then the easiest solution is either Gecko or Rutex drives. Rutex makes a step/dir to analog converter that would permit you to use the baldor drives but they are $100 each. I would simply get the drives. Brushless motors require a different approach. Rutex makes a BLDC drive that might work. Geckos have improved over the years. They work fine if you don't need differential encoder inputs. Rutex is a better choice if you have long encoder lines or are using the motors near a plasma torch. Doug --- In yeagerautomation@yahoogroups.com, "Don Zwiefka" <donz@...> wrote: > > Our 2-axis machine has been plagued with stepper motor lock-up problems > on and off for > > the past year. We acquired some Baldor DC Servo Motors and Drives and > would like to > > convert to these Servos without abandoning CNCPro. These drives cannot > accept a pulse signal > > that CNCPro puts out. Given the situation, is it easier to: > > 1. find a drive that will control a DC Servo motor while accepting > CNCPro input, > > 2. Use the Baldor DC servo system and switch software (CNCPro), > > 3. Sell the DC Servo parts and get something new > > > > Also anyone have experience with Gecko "drives" ? > > > > Thanks. > > Don Zwiefka >

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#1693 From: "doug6949" <prototype@...>
Date: Tue Apr 4, 2006 7:14 pm
Subject: Re: Help with Gecko Drive or propose alternative Drive for DC Servo Motor doug6949
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Hi Don;

The solution depends on what Baldor servos you have. If they are brush
type motors then the easiest solution is either Gecko or Rutex drives.

Rutex makes a step/dir to analog converter that would permit you to
use the baldor drives but they are $100 each. I would simply get the
drives.

Brushless motors require a different approach. Rutex makes a BLDC
drive that might work.

Geckos have improved over the years. They work fine if you don't need
differential encoder inputs. Rutex is a better choice if you have long
encoder lines or are using the motors near a plasma torch.

Doug

--- In yeagerautomation@yahoogroups.com, "Don Zwiefka" <donz@...> wrote:
>
> Our 2-axis machine has been plagued with stepper motor lock-up problems
> on and off for
>
> the past year.  We acquired some Baldor DC Servo Motors and Drives and
> would like to
>
> convert to these Servos without abandoning CNCPro.  These drives cannot
> accept a pulse signal
>
> that CNCPro puts out.  Given the situation, is it easier to:
>
> 1.       find a drive that will control a DC Servo motor while accepting
> CNCPro input,
>
> 2.       Use the Baldor DC servo system and switch software (CNCPro),
>
> 3.       Sell the DC Servo parts and get something new
>
>
>
> Also anyone have experience with Gecko "drives" ?
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> Don Zwiefka
>

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#1692 From: Mark <mfraser@...>
Date: Tue Apr 4, 2006 6:53 pm
Subject: Re: Help with Gecko Drive or propose alternative Drive for DC Servo Motor markotime
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Gecko 320 should do the job for you.  Excellent vendor, excellent
support, excellent product.  Depending on the resolution of the
encoder on the motor, you may have to get the multiplier board with
the G320 - something that MAY be needed using a 1000 ppr encoder
or higher, but feel free to email mariss at geckodrive.

I'd want to check the axes for debris in the ballnuts etc.,
before I applied more power...

I'll assume all the usual stuff wrt acceleration, top speed etc...

/mark

Don Zwiefka wrote:

> Our 2-axis machine has been plagued with stepper motor lock-up problems
> on and off for
>
> the past year.  We acquired some Baldor DC Servo Motors and Drives and
> would like to
>
> convert to these Servos without abandoning CNCPro.  These drives cannot
> accept a pulse signal
>
> that CNCPro puts out.  Given the situation, is it easier to:
>
> 1.       find a drive that will control a DC Servo motor while accepting
> CNCPro input,
>
> 2.       Use the Baldor DC servo system and switch software (CNCPro),
>
> 3.       Sell the DC Servo parts and get something new
>
>
>
> Also anyone have experience with Gecko �drives� ?
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> Don Zwiefka
>
>
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#1691 From: Mark <mfraser@...>
Date: Tue Apr 4, 2006 6:57 pm
Subject: Re: Help with Gecko Drive or propose alternative Drive for DC Servo Motor markotime
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Gecko 320 should do the job for you.  Excellent vendor, excellent
support, excellent product.  Depending on the resolution of the
encoder on the motor, you may have to get the multiplier board with
the G320 - something that MAY be needed using a 1000 ppr encoder
or higher, but feel free to email mariss at geckodrive.

I'd want to check the axes for debris in the ballnuts etc.,
before I applied more power...

I'll assume all the usual stuff wrt acceleration, top speed etc...

/mark

Don Zwiefka wrote:

> Our 2-axis machine has been plagued with stepper motor lock-up problems
> on and off for
>
> the past year.  We acquired some Baldor DC Servo Motors and Drives and
> would like to
>
> convert to these Servos without abandoning CNCPro.  These drives cannot
> accept a pulse signal
>
> that CNCPro puts out.  Given the situation, is it easier to:
>
> 1.       find a drive that will control a DC Servo motor while accepting
> CNCPro input,
>
> 2.       Use the Baldor DC servo system and switch software (CNCPro),
>
> 3.       Sell the DC Servo parts and get something new
>
>
>
> Also anyone have experience with Gecko �drives� ?
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> Don Zwiefka
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#1690 From: "Don Zwiefka" <donz@...>
Date: Tue Apr 4, 2006 5:34 pm
Subject: Help with Gecko Drive or propose alternative Drive for DC Servo Motor dzwiefka
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Our 2-axis machine has been plagued with stepper motor lock-up problems on and off for

the past year. We acquired some Baldor DC Servo Motors and Drives and would like to

convert to these Servos without abandoning CNCPro. These drives cannot accept a pulse signal

that CNCPro puts out. Given the situation, is it easier to:

1. find a drive that will control a DC Servo motor while accepting CNCPro input,

2. Use the Baldor DC servo system and switch software (CNCPro),

3. Sell the DC Servo parts and get something new

Also anyone have experience with Gecko “drives” ?

Thanks.

Don Zwiefka

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#1683 From: "Don Zwiefka" <donz@...>
Date: Tue Feb 14, 2006 12:05 pm
Subject: RE: Homing in the G-code Program dzwiefka
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From what I know it isn’t possible, but if someone else

has done it, it would help me also.

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Subject: [yeagerautomation] Homing in the G-code Program

Hello, This may not be a CNCPRO question, but I am wondering? I have
setup my cnc router to do jewelling on stainles steel for a friend. He
is not familiar with the software but could load the files, and execute
them. Is there a provision in cncpro for me to have the axis home all
axis inside my g-code program, or automatically before the program
begins? The X and Y axis home sensors are on the carriage, but my Z
axis home sensor is located on the work table to compesate for the tool
lenght. This may not be possible, but if anyone has ideas it would be
Great. Thanks.

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#1682 From: "dliley2" <dliley@...>
Date: Tue Feb 14, 2006 1:52 am
Subject: Homing in the G-code Program dliley2
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Hello, This may not be a CNCPRO question, but I am wondering? I have
setup my cnc router to do jewelling on stainles steel for a friend. He
is not familiar with the software but could load the files, and execute
them. Is there a provision in cncpro for me to have the axis home all
axis inside my g-code program, or automatically before the program
begins? The X and Y axis home sensors are on the carriage, but my Z
axis home sensor is located on the work table to compesate for the tool
lenght. This may not be possible, but if anyone has ideas it would be
Great. Thanks.

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#1681 From: Mark <mfraser@...>
Date: Tue Feb 7, 2006 7:14 pm
Subject: Re: Stepper Lock up issue update markotime
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And for a less expensive solution to a resonance problem, xylotex.com
/mark

Bob Muse wrote:
> Sounds like the same sort of problem I used to fight.   I got rid of the
> steppers and went to servos.  Much better, much more reliable, no missed
> steps or stalled motors and resultant scrapped parts.  I am still using
> CNCPro, no problems there.  The big problem with steppers is that the
> torque falls off pretty fast as the rpm increases and if you're not
> microstepping, there are resonant speeds where the motor will stall very
> easily.
>
> Just my .02 cents worth.
>
> Bob
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* Don Zwiefka <mailto:donz@...>
>     *To:* yeagerautomation@yahoogroups.com
>     <mailto:yeagerautomation@yahoogroups.com>
>     *Sent:* Tuesday, February 07, 2006 9:59 AM
>     *Subject:* [yeagerautomation] Stepper Lock up issue update
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>
>     *From:* Don Zwiefka <mailto:donz@...>
>
>     *Thanks for the responses.  Still working on the problem.*
>
>     *Uninstalled CNCPro and re-installed, same problem, Y motor stalled.*
>
>     *Swapped wiring - X motor to Y driver, Y motor to X driver, Y motor
>     stalled.*
>
>     *Switched Y and X motor, problem has disappeared ( during test).
>     Will be running*
>
>     *production next.  Y motor has more mass to move that X motor and
>     that may be*
>
>     *influencing performance.  X & Y steppers are identical make and model.*
>
>     *Reducing acceleration from .3 ft/sec*2 to .1 ft/sec*2 was tried but
>     a pause was created*
>
>     *between G03 statements, adding significantly to cycle time.*
>
>     *Don*
>
>     **
>
>     *To:* yeagerautomation@yahoogroups.com
>     <mailto:yeagerautomation@yahoogroups.com>
>
>     *Sent:* Monday, February 06, 2006 4:14 PM
>
>     *Subject:* [yeagerautomation] CNC Pro/ Stepper Motor Help Request
>
>
>
>     Running Windows 98, CNC Pro (�04) version, 1.7 GHz processor
>
>     Having problems with circular interpolation primarily on one axis.
>
>     Usually occurs when transitioning from one line of G02 (or G03)
>
>     code to another.  Seems to run better with constant contouring off,
>
>     but not always.  Only sure fix has been to drop the feed rate down
>
>     to 40 in/min (from 100+). Not a good long term answer.
>
>
>
>     When the problem occurs, the Y-axis motor will �lock-up� on that
>
>     particular line of code, and start again on the next Y command.  CNC Pro
>
>     screen registers the Y-axis as if there was no problem.
>
>
>
>     Any insight on this problem ?
>
>
>
>     Thanks.
>
>     Don Zwiefka
>
>
>
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#1680 From: "Bob Muse" <mtebob1@...>
Date: Tue Feb 7, 2006 7:01 pm
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Sounds like the same sort of problem I used to fight. I got rid of the steppers and went to servos. Much better, much more reliable, no missed steps or stalled motors and resultant scrapped parts. I am still using CNCPro, no problems there. The big problem with steppers is that the torque falls off pretty fast as the rpm increases and if you're not microstepping, there are resonant speeds where the motor will stall very easily.

Just my .02 cents worth.

Bob

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From: Don Zwiefka

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Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 9:59 AM

Subject: [yeagerautomation] Stepper Lock up issue update

----- Original Message -----

From: Don Zwiefka

Thanks for the responses. Still working on the problem.

Uninstalled CNCPro and re-installed, same problem, Y motor stalled.

Swapped wiring - X motor to Y driver, Y motor to X driver, Y motor stalled.

Switched Y and X motor, problem has disappeared ( during test). Will be running

production next. Y motor has more mass to move that X motor and that may be

influencing performance. X & Y steppers are identical make and model.

Reducing acceleration from .3 ft/sec*2 to .1 ft/sec*2 was tried but a pause was created

between G03 statements, adding significantly to cycle time.

Don

To: yeagerautomation@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 4:14 PM

Subject: [yeagerautomation] CNC Pro/ Stepper Motor Help Request

Running Windows 98, CNC Pro (�04) version, 1.7 GHz processor

Having problems with circular interpolation primarily on one axis.

Usually occurs when transitioning from one line of G02 (or G03)

code to another. Seems to run better with constant contouring off,

but not always. Only sure fix has been to drop the feed rate down

to 40 in/min (from 100+). Not a good long term answer.

When the problem occurs, the Y-axis motor will �lock-up� on that

particular line of code, and start again on the next Y command. CNC Pro

screen registers the Y-axis as if there was no problem.

Any insight on this problem ?

Thanks.

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#1679 From: "Don Zwiefka" <donz@...>
Date: Tue Feb 7, 2006 5:59 pm
Subject: Stepper Lock up issue update dzwiefka
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From: Don Zwiefka

Thanks for the responses. Still working on the problem.

Uninstalled CNCPro and re-installed, same problem, Y motor stalled.

Swapped wiring - X motor to Y driver, Y motor to X driver, Y motor stalled.

Switched Y and X motor, problem has disappeared ( during test). Will be running

production next. Y motor has more mass to move that X motor and that may be

influencing performance. X & Y steppers are identical make and model.

Reducing acceleration from .3 ft/sec*2 to .1 ft/sec*2 was tried but a pause was created

between G03 statements, adding significantly to cycle time.

Don

To: yeagerautomation@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 4:14 PM

Subject: [yeagerautomation] CNC Pro/ Stepper Motor Help Request

Running Windows 98, CNC Pro (’04) version, 1.7 GHz processor

Having problems with circular interpolation primarily on one axis.

Usually occurs when transitioning from one line of G02 (or G03)

code to another. Seems to run better with constant contouring off,

but not always. Only sure fix has been to drop the feed rate down

to 40 in/min (from 100+). Not a good long term answer.

When the problem occurs, the Y-axis motor will “lock-up” on that

particular line of code, and start again on the next Y command. CNC Pro

screen registers the Y-axis as if there was no problem.

Any insight on this problem ?

Thanks.

Don Zwiefka

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#1678 From: "Laurence R. Salamey" <lrs@...>
Date: Tue Feb 7, 2006 3:50 pm
Subject: Re: CNC Pro/ Stepper Motor Help Request larrysalamey
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Don,

Not sure if this will help but I once had a problem with z axis loosing position almost ever time I started to move it. Slowing down the feed rate helped but the main problem was the acceleration rate. Buried some where in the set up is the rate the stepper accelerates up to the Feed Rate. Slowed that down and it all went a way.

Not exactly sure if that fits here but might be worth looking at.

Larry

----- Original Message -----

From: Don Zwiefka

To: yeagerautomation@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 4:14 PM

Subject: [yeagerautomation] CNC Pro/ Stepper Motor Help Request

Running Windows 98, CNC Pro (�04) version, 1.7 GHz processor

Having problems with circular interpolation primarily on one axis.

Usually occurs when transitioning from one line of G02 (or G03)

code to another. Seems to run better with constant contouring off,

but not always. Only sure fix has been to drop the feed rate down

to 40 in/min (from 100+). Not a good long term answer.

When the problem occurs, the Y-axis motor will �lock-up� on that

particular line of code, and start again on the next Y command. CNC Pro

screen registers the Y-axis as if there was no problem.

Any insight on this problem ?

Thanks.

Don Zwiefka

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#1676 From: "Bob Muse" <mtebob1@...>
Date: Mon Feb 6, 2006 9:37 pm
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Hi Don

Servos or steppers? Sounds like the problem is with the motor/driver not being able to keep up. Maybe set your accel down a little.

Bob

----- Original Message -----

From: Don Zwiefka

To: yeagerautomation@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 1:14 PM

Subject: [yeagerautomation] CNC Pro/ Stepper Motor Help Request

Running Windows 98, CNC Pro (�04) version, 1.7 GHz processor

Having problems with circular interpolation primarily on one axis.

Usually occurs when transitioning from one line of G02 (or G03)

code to another. Seems to run better with constant contouring off,

but not always. Only sure fix has been to drop the feed rate down

to 40 in/min (from 100+). Not a good long term answer.

When the problem occurs, the Y-axis motor will �lock-up� on that

particular line of code, and start again on the next Y command. CNC Pro

screen registers the Y-axis as if there was no problem.

Any insight on this problem ?

Thanks.

Don Zwiefka

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#1675 From: "Don Zwiefka" <donz@...>
Date: Mon Feb 6, 2006 9:14 pm
Subject: CNC Pro/ Stepper Motor Help Request dzwiefka
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Running Windows 98, CNC Pro (’04) version, 1.7 GHz processor

Having problems with circular interpolation primarily on one axis.

Usually occurs when transitioning from one line of G02 (or G03)

code to another. Seems to run better with constant contouring off,

but not always. Only sure fix has been to drop the feed rate down

to 40 in/min (from 100+). Not a good long term answer.

When the problem occurs, the Y-axis motor will “lock-up” on that

particular line of code, and start again on the next Y command. CNC Pro

screen registers the Y-axis as if there was no problem.

Any insight on this problem ?

Thanks.

Don Zwiefka

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#1674 From: "Laurence R. Salamey" <lrs@...>
Date: Wed Aug 10, 2005 6:00 pm
Subject: Re: windows 2000 professional larrysalamey
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Thanks for the advice. You are absolutely correct. After some trying I went to a local used computer store and purchased an older Pentium I computer for about $40.00. Put on windows 98 and a win-zip program then downloaded cnc pro.

Simple as that it worked like a charm, better than the old 486 processor.

Thanks again.

Larry

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Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 1:26 PM

Subject: Re: [yeagerautomation] windows 2000 professional

Don't waste your time , it will only run well on 95 or 98 . -- Ron Kline American Precision Ceramics Central Ky.

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#1673 From: Ron Kline <ronkline@...>
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Don't waste your time , it will only run well on 95 or 98 .

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#1672 From: "Don Zwiefka" <donz@...>
Date: Tue Aug 9, 2005 2:57 pm
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Larry,

Seems like Win 95 or 98 were recommended and the newer

Windows versions had issues or work arounds to enable running CNCPro.

If it were me, I’d stay with Win 98.

Don

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Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 10:46 AM
To: yeagerautomation@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [yeagerautomation] windows 2000 professional

My old computer crashed and I reinstalled cnc pro on a newer
computer. Intel celron processor with windows 2000 professional.

Won't run.

Need help with this one. Must be a dos issue.

Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance.

Larry

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#1671 From: "larrysalamey" <lrs@...>
Date: Tue Aug 9, 2005 2:45 pm
Subject: windows 2000 professional larrysalamey
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My old computer crashed and I reinstalled cnc pro on a newer
computer.  Intel celron processor with windows 2000 professional.

Won't run.

Need help with this one.  Must be a dos issue.

Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance.

Larry

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#1670 From: "Laurence R. Salamey" <lrs@...>
Date: Wed Jul 13, 2005 1:41 pm
Subject: Re: C'Bore G Code help larrysalamey
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Jeff,

I don't believe cnc pro supports using "R" parameters for circular inerpolation. I had to use I and J values.

http://www.nfrpartners.com/nfrg2g3.htm

Here is a good like that explains G2 and G3 and I and J parameters. Once you have it it's better than R codes.

Hope it helps.

Larry

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From: injmldguru

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Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 12:05 AM

Subject: [yeagerautomation] C'Bore G Code help

I'm a newby ... so please bare with me. I'm trying to counter bore some holes and I'm not having any luck. I've got a taig mill with smallish stepper motors so I'm not making any heavy cuts - just 0.050" at a pass. The piece is aluminium, with a 1/4 through hole @ x-4.75 Y0. I'm trying to c'bore the hole to 3/8" 0.400" deep. This is part of the program; M03 G0 Z0.1 X-4.75 Y0 G1 Z-0.05 F1 X-4.686 G3 X-4.75 Y0.064 R0.064 G3 X-4.814 Y0 R0.064 G3 X-4.75 Y-0.064 R0.064 G3 X-4.686 Y0 R0.064 G3 X-4.75 Y0.064 R0.064 G1 X-4.75 Y0 Z-0.1 X-4.686 G3 X-4.75 Y0.064 R0.064 G3 X-4.814 Y0 R0.064 G3 X-4.75 Y-0.064 R0.064 G3 X-4.686 Y0 R0.064 G3 X-4.75 Y0.064 R0.064 G1 X-4.75 Y0 Z-0.15 The program keeps going until Z-0.4. Anyway, the controler just skips over the lines like they're not even there. I also tryed the "I" "J" but I haven't been able to figure them out. Could someone please tell me what I'm doing wrong. Thanks, Jeff

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#1669 From: "Bob Muse" <mtebob1@...>
Date: Wed Jul 13, 2005 11:02 am
Subject: Re: C'Bore G Code help high_tech_bl...
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Hi

Set up cncpro to use I and J always relative  (alt O menu)

This should work:

M03

G90
G0 Z0.1
X-4.75 Y0
G1 Z-0.05 F1
G01X-4.812F1

G03X-4.812Y0I.062J0

G01X-4.75

Z-.1

X-4.812

G03X-4.812Y0J.062J0

just repeat until you get to the depth you want


For G02 and 03 with I and J it works like this--the machine is going to make
an arc from where it currently is (in this case -4.812,0) to the  stated x
and y on the line of code also -4.812,0  ie the start and finish is the same
point hence 360 degrees.  The center of the arc is determined by I and J
relative to the start point, in this case x =.062 and Y=0

To go 180 degrees it would be G03X-4.688Y0I.062J0

Hope this helps.  Once you get the hang of it it's easy.

Bob

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From: "Hughes" <keggie@...>
To: <yeagerautomation@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 3:36 AM
Subject: Re: [yeagerautomation] C'Bore G Code help


> 1/4 inch
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob Muse" <mtebob1@...>
> To: <yeagerautomation@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 12:38 AM
> Subject: Re: [yeagerautomation] C'Bore G Code help
>
>
> > What size is your cutter?
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "injmldguru" <keggie@...>
> > To: <yeagerautomation@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 9:05 PM
> > Subject: [yeagerautomation] C'Bore G Code help
> >
> >
> >> I'm a newby ... so please bare with me.
> >> I'm trying to counter bore some holes and I'm not having any luck.
> >> I've got a taig mill with smallish stepper motors so I'm not
> >> making any heavy cuts - just 0.050" at a pass.  The piece is
> >> aluminium, with a 1/4 through hole @ x-4.75 Y0.  I'm trying to
> >> c'bore the hole to 3/8" 0.400" deep. This is part of the program;
> >>
> >> M03
> >> G0 Z0.1
> >> X-4.75 Y0
> >> G1 Z-0.05 F1
> >>
> >> X-4.686
> >> G3 X-4.75 Y0.064 R0.064
> >> G3 X-4.814 Y0 R0.064
> >> G3 X-4.75 Y-0.064 R0.064
> >> G3 X-4.686 Y0 R0.064
> >> G3 X-4.75 Y0.064 R0.064
> >> G1 X-4.75 Y0
> >> Z-0.1
> >>
> >> X-4.686
> >> G3 X-4.75 Y0.064 R0.064
> >> G3 X-4.814 Y0 R0.064
> >> G3 X-4.75 Y-0.064 R0.064
> >> G3 X-4.686 Y0 R0.064
> >> G3 X-4.75 Y0.064 R0.064
> >> G1 X-4.75 Y0
> >> Z-0.15
> >>  The program keeps going until Z-0.4.  Anyway, the controler just
> >> skips over the lines like they're not even there.  I also tryed
> >> the "I" "J" but I haven't been able to figure them out.  Could
> >> someone please tell me what I'm doing wrong.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Jeff
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#1668 From: "Hughes" <keggie@...>
Date: Wed Jul 13, 2005 10:36 am
Subject: Re: C'Bore G Code help injmldguru
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1/4 inch
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Muse" <mtebob1@...>
To: <yeagerautomation@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 12:38 AM
Subject: Re: [yeagerautomation] C'Bore G Code help


> What size is your cutter?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "injmldguru" <keggie@...>
> To: <yeagerautomation@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 9:05 PM
> Subject: [yeagerautomation] C'Bore G Code help
>
>
>> I'm a newby ... so please bare with me.
>> I'm trying to counter bore some holes and I'm not having any luck.
>> I've got a taig mill with smallish stepper motors so I'm not
>> making any heavy cuts - just 0.050" at a pass.  The piece is
>> aluminium, with a 1/4 through hole @ x-4.75 Y0.  I'm trying to
>> c'bore the hole to 3/8" 0.400" deep. This is part of the program;
>>
>> M03
>> G0 Z0.1
>> X-4.75 Y0
>> G1 Z-0.05 F1
>>
>> X-4.686
>> G3 X-4.75 Y0.064 R0.064
>> G3 X-4.814 Y0 R0.064
>> G3 X-4.75 Y-0.064 R0.064
>> G3 X-4.686 Y0 R0.064
>> G3 X-4.75 Y0.064 R0.064
>> G1 X-4.75 Y0
>> Z-0.1
>>
>> X-4.686
>> G3 X-4.75 Y0.064 R0.064
>> G3 X-4.814 Y0 R0.064
>> G3 X-4.75 Y-0.064 R0.064
>> G3 X-4.686 Y0 R0.064
>> G3 X-4.75 Y0.064 R0.064
>> G1 X-4.75 Y0
>> Z-0.15
>>  The program keeps going until Z-0.4.  Anyway, the controler just
>> skips over the lines like they're not even there.  I also tryed
>> the "I" "J" but I haven't been able to figure them out.  Could
>> someone please tell me what I'm doing wrong.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jeff
>>
>>
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#1667 From: "Bob Muse" <mtebob1@...>
Date: Wed Jul 13, 2005 4:38 am
Subject: Re: C'Bore G Code help high_tech_bl...
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What size is your cutter?

----- Original Message -----
From: "injmldguru" <keggie@...>
To: <yeagerautomation@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 9:05 PM
Subject: [yeagerautomation] C'Bore G Code help


> I'm a newby ... so please bare with me.
> I'm trying to counter bore some holes and I'm not having any luck.
> I've got a taig mill with smallish stepper motors so I'm not
> making any heavy cuts - just 0.050" at a pass.  The piece is
> aluminium, with a 1/4 through hole @ x-4.75 Y0.  I'm trying to
> c'bore the hole to 3/8" 0.400" deep. This is part of the program;
>
> M03
> G0 Z0.1
> X-4.75 Y0
> G1 Z-0.05 F1
>
> X-4.686
> G3 X-4.75 Y0.064 R0.064
> G3 X-4.814 Y0 R0.064
> G3 X-4.75 Y-0.064 R0.064
> G3 X-4.686 Y0 R0.064
> G3 X-4.75 Y0.064 R0.064
> G1 X-4.75 Y0
> Z-0.1
>
> X-4.686
> G3 X-4.75 Y0.064 R0.064
> G3 X-4.814 Y0 R0.064
> G3 X-4.75 Y-0.064 R0.064
> G3 X-4.686 Y0 R0.064
> G3 X-4.75 Y0.064 R0.064
> G1 X-4.75 Y0
> Z-0.15
>  The program keeps going until Z-0.4.  Anyway, the controler just
> skips over the lines like they're not even there.  I also tryed
> the "I" "J" but I haven't been able to figure them out.  Could
> someone please tell me what I'm doing wrong.
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff
>
>
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#1666 From: "injmldguru" <keggie@...>
Date: Wed Jul 13, 2005 4:05 am
Subject: C'Bore G Code help injmldguru
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I'm a newby ... so please bare with me.
I'm trying to counter bore some holes and I'm not having any luck.
I've got a taig mill with smallish stepper motors so I'm not
making any heavy cuts - just 0.050" at a pass.  The piece is
aluminium, with a 1/4 through hole @ x-4.75 Y0.  I'm trying to
c'bore the hole to 3/8" 0.400" deep. This is part of the program;

M03
G0 Z0.1
X-4.75 Y0
G1 Z-0.05 F1

X-4.686
G3 X-4.75 Y0.064 R0.064
G3 X-4.814 Y0 R0.064
G3 X-4.75 Y-0.064 R0.064
G3 X-4.686 Y0 R0.064
G3 X-4.75 Y0.064 R0.064
G1 X-4.75 Y0
Z-0.1

X-4.686
G3 X-4.75 Y0.064 R0.064
G3 X-4.814 Y0 R0.064
G3 X-4.75 Y-0.064 R0.064
G3 X-4.686 Y0 R0.064
G3 X-4.75 Y0.064 R0.064
G1 X-4.75 Y0
Z-0.15
  The program keeps going until Z-0.4.  Anyway, the controler just
skips over the lines like they're not even there.  I also tryed
the "I" "J" but I haven't been able to figure them out.  Could
someone please tell me what I'm doing wrong.

Thanks,
Jeff

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